{APRIL 29.i1_92_9 ' -Continued from page 1_ -_-__--_- trust, it will be all right. It is a most important thing. Ind W8 will assume that it will be done in the proper “.335 A; I said, the cost is so lo\v w“ I do not know where else it could he undertaken for the same gmount, because the magnitude oi we work is immense. notwithstand- ing the fact that it was partially done up td 1891. The statutes have .nccuj'fllllavud greatly; there have been some thirty-eight sessions of the Leg- islature since then, so that the work Premier Saunders; Yes, there 1, en increase. ltlr. Stewart: That is where you’ 11680 the Old Age Pensions. . FERRY EXPENDITURES Premier Saunders: That is right. Mr. Stewart: If we could get an adjustment whereby we could get the _O1d Age Pensions paid to the aged infirm who are in our institutions and those abroad whom we are help- ing. it would be of great assistance to the revenue of the Province, Premier Saunders: No doubt about that. Mr. Stewart: I do not know whe- would be Just as great as it was at that time. There would be that much more work to do, besides connecting_ d... Statutes up. Premier Saunders. I might say, by “y of. explanation, that in answer w e question on the Order Paper I gave the name of the party who in- tends to consolidate the end in that answer I stated that I m assisting that gentleman myself. There was some suggestion that"! wanted this tender myself. Statutes. I may ther that arrangement could be made. Of collrse. faking a general pension scheme with this Province contribut- ing fifty per cent. it would put the balance the other way. In other words, we would not have fifty per cent oi those people in our institu- tions at the present time, and conse- quently it would be a. liability. But if by any means we could getthat money for those whom we are already supporting, it would relieve the rev- enucs vcry much in that regard. (The items, Postage and Rent of “y that not one single dollar ls coming to me. I think my hon. friend the leader of the Opposition knows ma; there is one thing I do enjoy, and it is the profession I have the honor to be in. I always take a spe- cial interest in matters of that kind and l am only too pleased to be able to render any little assistance in having these statutes consolidated; but it is no; costing this Province anything, so far as my lwork is con- Post Office Boxes, Provincial Audit- or's Departmeng, and Provincial Sec- retary Treasurer's Department, were ipasscd without much discussion.) Provincial Building u Hon. Mr. Stewart: This was very high last year; the cost of fuel, lights, repairs, etc. to this building was near- ly $8,000. cerned. Mr. Stewart: 1 don't think any- body ever suggested that it was. Premier Saunders: Oh ‘Jes. Mr. Stewart: We know quite well‘ that my hon. friend, apart from any other consideration, would not do gnfthlflK to disqualify him from a seat in this Legislature. Legislative: Library Dr. lifacMfllan: is proposed to move the Legislative Library when the new building is,‘ erected for a. Museum and Library?‘ Premier Saunders: The Legislative Library along with the Public Lib- rary will be moved. I understand that There is nothing is the intention. May I ask if Hon. Mr. McIntyre: I might 5B3’ that this item is $1500 less than it was last year. Last yearthcre was a lot of work; extra cleaning, etc. Mr. Stewart: My hon. friend 1135 all obesslon about cleaning. 1t surely ' did not cost $2,000 to clean this build- ing. But I will tell you what did cos; money; it was the fancy fum- ishlng that my hon. friend is so fond of. His luxurious tastes run aWflY with him. I could not get that 1n- formatlon out of him last year. There is a great deal of ingenuity exercis- ed in answering questions in some de- partments. Last year we find that $2,000 was spent for carpets and other things: that accounts for prac- tically the whole amount. As I said. I was not able to get all that infor- it maiion last year, although the ex-, definite decided. I think perhaps it might be well to retain the library. blr. Stewart: I was going to make the; suggestion, because I gathered from the Act that all thB b00145 Wfillld be removed. I do not think that would ever do, because. as my hon. friend knows,.ever since we had B- fegislaturo we had a legislative lib- rary. ‘Illere are many books in the legislative library that are absolutely‘ necessary during the 59551011. 01 course. the Dodd Library is a recent addition. We have learned now to consider it as one library, but the Dodd and legislative libraries are 0h- tirely different. There are some his- torical works that might be moved over to the new building without any trouble, but a great mini! 0! the books in the Legislative Library will ill-Ye to be left. here in connection it formation. given before. Premier Saunders: on the order paper. penditnre had been made long before. This House was fitted up in aimle- pie order before the session began-i and yet I could not get the infor- mation. Any questions that were put W “5 were fully flu- swered. Mr. Stewart: I am exoneratin; m)‘ hon. friend on this occasion; 1i- W35‘ not in his department. Mr. McIntyre: I think 1 acquaint-l ed my hon. friend with all the ill-l It he wanted any fuel l"r. A. F. Araellallt: I feel that the iher information he should have Pill ‘ “m” in m9 Miami 031"!“ sum‘ cu system at present, it is true; but there is no Justification for this ex- tra clerk and the additional expen- diture that is involved. As I said be- fore. I we; assurelfiast year that it was a. temporary arrangement, and K115i. it would be done away with. Premier Saunders: In speaking to in“? Rfgistrar about the party to iwhOfil you refer. he said there was ‘$01196 611011811 work to keep him going. that he was a. good penman and W85 dvius good service. He is not being paid very much in salary and ,we believe it is in the interests of the ‘Publia A5 you say. there were two additional clerks there for a time; laud surely it couldnt' be said that these men were there doing nothing. I know that the entire staff of the Registry Office in Prince County have a petition pointing out the in- creased volume of work, and sug- Ecsting that the amount paid is not a living wage. I don't believe there is one official in the Government service who is properly paid. It is simply a case of getting the work done. Mr. Stewart: These officials assur- ed me that they would gladly do the work if they got the extra pay, and we made that arrangement with them. The whole system. of course, is antiquated. It could all be done by one Registrar and a stenographer. Instead of the deeds being copied out in longlland they could be done in duplicate and a. copy filed, However. that is by the way. This money, I submit, is not properly expended. Mr W. C. S. McLul-e: I must agree uith the leader of the Govern- ment that‘ the salaries of certain clerks in the Government offices are very low. It is all the more regrett- able that in the Registry Office in Charlottetown a returned soldier. Mr. Frank MacDonald, should have had his salary reduced $200. I do not know why this man was discrimin- ated against to that extent. Perhaps the Premier can explain. ' _ Prcmlre Saunders: The other man had been in the service for very many years. and he was rated as a very excellent official. We have nothing to say against Mr. McDonald; he is a good official too; but it was a case of an injustice done to Mr. Klggins. who had been an official for many years. We felt it was only right that he should be placed where he should ihave been before. Mr. Stewart: He had never been Registrar before. Premier Saundcrs: But the Regis- trar died. Mr. Stewart: 'l‘h,at was in our time. and we appointed another. , Premier Saundc 5. Well, he is hold- ,|ing the same position he held be- fore. Prince County Office merslde are not getting sufficient Mn Snwnm It should have been salary as compared with the Char- The work was com- pleted a month before and the 01115 paid. Mr. Itfclntyre: The bills were 110i- paid before last session. with the legislature. The item carried. Legislative Grants Mr. Stewart: I notice that I couldn't say as to that. is not down here. Mr. Stewart: Mr. neat deal of valuable work. He sav- _ l 2d us an immense amount of money have t0 i!" *1 b“? 5mm“ m‘ h“ i" "Eight charges; hundreds of thou- sands of dollars. Premier Saunders: Well. there is c k “Si, item, Unforseen Expenditures. somebody WiV-"w" "5' I mm _y°“ 1n there. might get the leader of the Govern- Thet L; gt the very end of the esti- ment. (Laughter) hfay I 05k if m“ $3.000. The]; FIRMS. Mr. Stewart: I urge that his ser- the chnlr~in my hon. friend's oiiice? Vices should be retained. if possible Mr~M¢1"'Y'°= P“ °‘ “' 0i course, it could come in under that Mm generally. Premier Saunders: It has nfit bu" ay COMO Cornell did included here, I don't think. Mr. Stewart: lllare fa 81.500. Mr- Stewart: That would mesnelerk had been but "'- MY “mm” m" the omoe is costing about flirtion was that "P “is m‘ ‘mend’ I Prnalar Saunders: I ti-linillihmtempurlfy lfimitilt- “d u“ mm Might I ask what Mr. Burnaby, Maritime Trade Com- missioner, is receiving altogethcr 1mm the three Maritime Provinces? Premier ssaaaem 1 couldn't lIY-mattcr to which 1 directed the at- Idid know; r m informed, but ltention of the clovermuent last year- vs forgotten the exact amount. Ollrin regard w the “Efliiiiy "*9 int-oi amount. Hr. auwart: We are paying WW1 notice now that he is there as I Oug proportion properly wouldpermanent official. f may 55? "l" ' ‘Nlltfqia-clcventh, according towhen we were in office we reduced ' tion. hunter caucus: f think claooflenl-rled on without any undue rush. ‘:0. drum; m4 we m payinITha officials wanted an increase in ‘m-ltcwart: 01$ would» °B¢'We had a comPMB """°"m‘dm‘ 1 .4‘ palm "1- flgt the [rlntfhgy were not over worked. that you have stopped paying a portion of the lslary of Mr. col-hell. Maritime! Freight expert. Has he been dropped‘ by the three Maritime Provinces? Premier Saunders: I must conffii! Mr. Stewart: That is rather stYB-"Be. suyelfthey were put in. In 1926 the upkeep of this building cost $4.867; last year it wns~$'l.4B2; and there is an estimate of $6.000 this yesr- T110" should be quite a shrinkage in that amount this year. Mr. McIntyre: There was a lot 0! extra work done on the eflvt-‘S. In" your gutters were ill bad shape. Mr. Stewart: When were they doflll? I- noticed that you had a scaffoldini-i up practically all summer. I was won- a del-lng if my hon. friend was 80108 to hung himself on it. l-ic would I-le lifr. McIntyre: Tile next scaffold we get we are going f0 PW 3'0" 9n n‘ Mr. Stewart: You will 118V! W l" extra $2,000 included the furuiturw- Mr. Stewart: Only um 01 l" chair? Mr. Mclnli": Yc5' Mr. Stewart: I thouim 5°! Rgflgtry Office Clerks "eh, Mr, Stewart: There was l Office. Charlottetown. Another COPW"! was assured last Y9" m" h! w“ ' went through on that understandinl- that staff by two. and the work WM salary. and they were entitled to it. with them that if we am the in- crease they would do the work with- out any further assistance. Th0! were very glad of the opportunity- and lotteiown office. Premier Saumian: We are in ne- cord about tho officials not getting enough. We believe they are under paid. Mr. Arsenanlt: They are doing Lhe same class of work as in Charlotte- ‘town, and it is very unfair. The items carried. Ferry Servie (The Estimates for Ferries, Public Works Department. were as follows: Queens County: Cranberry, Hillsboro River, $2.500; Mecanners. $5.500; York Point. $100; steamer Hillsboro, Charlottetown and Rocky Point, $13,- 000; Floats, Charlottetown and Rocky Point, $1,200; Waiting Rooms. $200. Prince County: Bummerside and Hurd‘s Point, $1.600; Ellis River, $1.000. King's County: Poplar Point. $400; Newport. $3.500: Georgetown and Lower Montague. $4450; Annandale. Lot 56. $500; Murray Harbor North and Murray Harbor South. $600). Mr. W. C. S. MeLure: We would like to get some information with re- gard to the Steamer "f-fillsboro." Is she on the route yet? Hon. Mr. McIntyre: No. Mr. Manure: When will she be in operation? Mr. McIntyre: We expect to have‘ repairs made shortly and that she will soon be on the routeJrhere ia a gasoline boat in her place. Mr. McLare: What boat is “doing the service? Mr. McIntyre: A gasoline boat own- ed by Mr. Taylor. Mr. MeLuro: Can any definite time be given when the I-‘lillsboro ferry will be ready? Mr. McIntyre: No. Mr. Menu-a: This is one of the most important ferries on the Iai- and. You would think the Depart- ment would see that the ferry boat was ready as soon aa navigation opened. ‘ Mr. Moraine: It will be Nady just as soon as Bruce Stewart b 00., gets the work completed. I might say that. we had to lend to Scotland for pal-ta of the furnace or that boat. m. Monro: when did you and I V, “m. g loam-me has never been any 000101110" Ma for this? , that scorc- We have an antiquat- m. Melvyn: Int fall. "“—“r --' ; -Ooatinucd on page 10- __,__ \ ‘- T105. Cl-IARLOTTETOW“ ~~ - ~~ W _ ‘ad-non. Mr. MeLurc: It takes a long time to come. , Mr. Arsenauit: I notice an item $200 for Waiting Rooms. Queen's County ferry service. Don't you think the same provision should be made for Prince County? Mr. If. D. McLean: The same would apply to King's County. Mr. MeLul-e: with reference to the ferry service at Bonshaw, I think the question was asked the Minister of Public Works whether he had re- ceived a‘ petition from certain pen- ple in that district asking for ~ "" for a ferry. and I b-‘P ‘ eluded in these lien" Hon. Mr. Mclniy" " $500. Ellis Riv“ Mr. Arsenault: In raga... .> c118 El- lis River ferry. I would like to ask if the amount ls the same as last year. Hon. Mr. McIntyre: It is much less than last year owing to the fact ; that they anticipate building a. new, scow. ' l Mr. Arsenault: Has the contract‘ been let? ' Mr. McIntyre: Yes. v Mr, Arsenault: who has the coll- tract: Mr. McIntyre: Mr. Rankin. ‘ Mr. Arsflnauli: What time do you expect the service to be put into op- . oration? Mr. McIntyre: I cannot you that. Mr. Arsenauit: Because ‘here are many people enquiring in that sec- tion. Do you intend to fix up the old ferry and put her in operation until the contract is completed? Mr. McIntyre: N0. Mr. Arsenault: You are going to disrupt the service? Mr. McIntyre: There are a couple of bridges down below; the South West Bridge and Grand River bridge. they can cross there. Mr. Araenault: But in the spring of the year when the roads are bad. it is difficult for them to do that. 'I'ilis ferry should have been built last Your. _ Mr. McIntyre: My hon: friend must realize that we had to build a new on! at Newport and Lower lilo:- tague. It is left to the Liberal Gov- ernment to build all the ferries. Mr, Arsenault: That is not the question at all. What has that to do with it? I want to give the people some information as to the service they may expect from this Govern- ment. Mr. Mclnty-rerA new scow; the very best we can give. Mr. Arsenault: What is the term of the contract? When has it got to be finished? Mr. McIntyre: Just tell them the very best! Mr. Arseniult: They will be dis- couraged if we say "the very best" that you can do! (Laughter). We want something definite. Just ieli A Vain Boaat. Mr. Stewart: The Minister of Pub- lic Works made some remarks a mo- nlent ago about Liberal Governments having to build all the ferries. My hon. friend's knowledge does not go far enough back. Let me tell him that it was a. Conservative Govern- ment that piaced the first proper ferry boat at Newport; that a Liber- al Government was in power for a quarter of a century and they were satisfied with a miserable gasoline boat that would scarcely carry foot passengers across. I will give my hon. friend credit for putting that new boat there: but he should not make those siatenlents. because it shows that he is not properly informed. Now he says he i; going to build one for Lower Montague. Mr. McIntyre: No I didn't say that. Mr. Stewart: l suppose he knows that that boat is not. owned by the Government? It is owned by the Georgetown Ferry Boat Company. It is true she is getting old. but she has done good service. That boat was put there when the Conservative Govern- ment was in power. I would like to know what my hon. friend's plans are in regard to that. Mr. Anenaalt: In regard to the Grand River ferry. has the Govern- ment received any petition and has there been any survey made to build a bridge there? I am informed that the matter has been taken up with the Department to build a bridge. I do not know whether the Federal representative has interested himself in the matter. but I understand it has been suggested by somebody-a steel bridge. Mr. McIntyre: I think my hon. friend is getting mixed up with this Causeway. Mr. Arsenault: No. That is the one for which my hon. friend says they are Going to make a survey. hemloc- laaadera: They are going to build a tunnel there! (Ur. Anenaalt: This Grand River ferry was also inaugurated by a Con- servative Government. Hr. Mefhtyla: That ta wonderful! Mr. Alaclallti It h wonderful. and oioiclcoir PVT? "H"? eo-ovovov. c. . . . . . . . . a. vOOWOOOOO-OOQOO-OQOOOOOOO0OOOOGOOQOOOOOQOOOOOOOOOOO006000901900006009vOQOQOOO-OC-DOFQ-Qh iHi llilll Mil Sill! WED. £6 THURS. MAY. 1st 8o’ 2nd The Store Filled With Wonderful Bargains Top to Bottom Millliii ll Mc i Queen St. ololoiofolcofoiororo ‘i1. all ‘ Departments §C§__"' IO O9 ioikolollolluolo). one) prov @ Charlottetown