C6 aes : Ta SS I Ta long ago, and wished to borrow money. He (Col. Gray) of making any mi-appropriations rests solely with them. I said he could not accommodate him, when the person offered think it is far better to alow the Appropriation Bill to come _jors, Cap‘ains, &c. He (Col. Gray) remarked that/"P '%_ Mts pres. mt shape: or else to have the appropriations | the country? If w long were th bim ten per cent. interest. it he agreed to take this interest he might lose all. sou then showed him that he had paid not only as high as fen | tions seni up by separate resolutions. [| will throw the burden per cent., but even as high as 15 per cent. to another indivi-) 9p the other branch of the Legislature. As there is very little dual. He (Col. Gray) was doubttul whether the clause re- | deviatioa m principle from the Act which is in operation in stricting the interest on securities on land to 6 per cent. did) Canada, where we know it is not popular, and as New Bruns- not work injuriously, for though he might be inclined to fa-| classified. I will, thereture, as long as | bave a seat at this The per- | yet he could not do go unless to his own disadvantage, provided me that this Colony should be the first to try such a doubtful ; sel tg = ae in 5s ane _|eXperinent. However, having forme:ly pledged myself to he was able to procure a higher rate of interest for his money |Support the principle of this Bill, | shall not now oppyse it ; in some other way. at p | bat [ cannot agree with some of the details. Hoa. Mr. COLE: thought the Act might be safely con-| Hon. Dr. JOUNSON—What has slready been said by his tinued for ten years. He did not agree with the hon. mem-| Honor the Leader of the Goverument is, in my opinion, an ber for Tryon that the interest on money should be restricted 408ver to the objectious msde to this Bill by those who have in the same manner as millers’ toll. Ifa miller found that opposed it. His honor the gallant Colonel appears t» be pos- a person had very litle graia to grind he might exact at the | S°#e¢ Sy very alarming fears respecting the loyalty - the 1a e of 100 per cent., and in this way the people might starve ; | Propesitions set forth therem. Now, L cannot see anything : E ‘derogatory to the Crown in the people wishing to have the but they would not be likely to starve for waat of money. |. Jection of the members of the Legi-latiwe Council placed in Board, contend against the principle of having the appropria- and let us have a new batch ; wick has rejected it, and Nova Scotia has not had courage to vor @ person who de ired to purchase land on this security, | introduce a Bll on the subject ; therefore it appears strange to | business to come up from Ghe ECrvaminer. ——— a SS — comosed of men in and about Charlot eto ,ey in the country before they Let the whole be swept away, and they will see where the business of the country has been deta ned. What business ‘has been done bere during the last five.er six weeks ? | Hon. Col. SWABEY—I think his Honor must be labouring lander some delusion when he speaks of the business of the | country being retarded by this Board. We have waited for the other louse. Hon. Mr. GARDINER—I mean the House of Assembly. lion. Mr. WALKER—I wish bis Honor would exp!ain how | making this branch elective would expedite the bus.ness im the |other branch. Hon. Mr. GAROINER—I mean that members wh then Gill this House wou'd see why the business is retarded. were token to this Council ? tlon. Mr. PALMER—Mr. Chairman, his Honor the Presi-| so we might as wn—Co'onels, Ma-' to propose an amendment to confine a mem! er’s qualification What did they know about the wants of to the District which he represents. cy on ce ’ ; % i : . a - your Exeeliency, who ought certainly to be the best judge of what should be considered en offence, either personally, poli. The quesiion was then put on the Hon. Mr. Andorson’s | tically, or ficial! y —in true Christian forbearance, character. amendment, and it passed in the affirmative. | From tha 10th to the any discussion. — istic of yourself and your amiable lady, without consulting 22ud clause was agreed to without | or asking leave of your political advisers, invited some of | Mr. Coles’s family to participate in the hospitality oi Govern. On the 234 clause, relating to the term for which members| ment; and for this daring act, this terrible crime, against shall be elected, being read— | the mightiness and high hereditary descent of your alvis r., | Flon. Mr. DINGWELL said—I do not understand that| the subject mast undergo a@ Parliamentary enquiry, wud clause. Docs it mean that the Legislative Council shall sit | then and there by furce of numbers, declare that Mr. Coles here under the authority of the Crown, and that in case of aj had used the word * lie,’ and that consequently your Rx. |dead lock the House of Assembly would have to give way? celleney dare not forgive Mr. Coles, Hon. Mr. PALMER—I think that provision is requisite. " o would | It would not do to have both Leyislative bodies in the same | your immaculate advisers oy publicly provouncing that the ‘ If it were | dear innocents ; no, not even the smallest of them, ever told ‘eountry, possessing similar rights and privileges. well dispense with the two separate halls. nor admit himself o¢ family to Government House ; and must moreover whitewash |a lie, and must not even be supposed to be capable of telli, dent has characterized the $wo first edvuses of this Bill a8 very | This is to render them, in some respects, a little similar to|a lie, avd that they had no part in the lie; but evem this jg | ungrateful ; being calculated to sweep away the present | Couned, which he thinks should sit and enjoy the fruits of their labours, Bur I think there is very litte prospect of fruit at present. The amendment proposed by his Honor would be a | the House of Lords, As the Crown shall not have power to | not all, but they have compelled your Excelleney to lappoint, therefore it should not have power to dissolve the under your own hand that Mr. Coles hitself did not tell a j preve Council. ‘hey should feel their iudependenee at least for | lie, when he said that your Excellency's despatch contained alie!! <A person not acquainted with the antecedents of Mr. COOPER said it would be well to amend the Act by \their own hands, rather than in the hands of the Government | very slow process ; introducing a cigu-e to prevent fraud upon ignorant persons. and # am afracd it would not sa isfy the The Bill might exist for 15 or 20 | uf the day; for, however the Crown may have the formal power | country at the present ne. The He thought the Act might be coutinued ; but it would be well /of rej cirg a proposed member, it seldom exercises such | years before any material change would take place. that this should be done. | power; and the result is, that the Council formed by one party Hon. Mr. HAVILAND remarked that there was no oc- | 9®comes obstructive to a Government formed by the other. easion to iutroduce any ciause to meet the case mentioned by| 'he People think that they will be uble tu remedy this evil, z we : ~ and we mast admit that they have a right to alter and modify the hop. member for ignish. Fraud vitiated any contract, | the Constiia'ion ; and we must remember that it is subject to if it was known the person was imposed upon. But if both Her Majesty's approval, and she will not act derogatory to her partics knew what they were doing, he could not see that it}own dignity cr rights; so that we may leave that part of the mage much difference iv what currency the money was to be | subject to the Imperial judgment. Lis honor has been pleased, ya‘d. | in bis witty moments, \o compare hituself and his associates to The resolution shat the Act sbould be continued and amend- | a See a = ae ae — Se 7 ae — = avre alac sol uti i a g to put to e dden dea op‘em ce 3 od was agreed to, a8 also a —, that the Act relating passing of this Bal; but L beg to remind bis Honor that this to Packets sailing bet ween this Island and the Provinces of | ’ . ; on : : Act dues not propose to kill the old ladies; but to reconstruct New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, be continued. The Com- them, @ sort of mill that we sometimes hear of that cen grind mittee then rose, and ihe Chairman reported twa resolutions | old folks young again ; and if we shall have che privilege to come to which were agreed to by the House, and a Committee | pass through this mill, and reappear in our old places, what a appointed to bring in Bills in accerdance therewith. | pleasure it will be to see ais Llonor the President and his Ho- House adiournd for oue hour. }nor the Colonel reseated and renewed, especially if certain * bd {political crotchets shall be rubbed off in the passage ; then | ArrerNoon Sittinc. | for one shall be most happy to congratulate them on their bappy Mr, MONTGOMERY presented a petition from inhabi- | restoration. Upon the odject of the Bill, it may be observed, tants of Wigmore road, praying aid for repairing a bridge ; | that burnan nature is a very curious thing, and in its best state ul4o a petition from George mn: M‘Kay, praying for a balance | '8 subjeet to very un qual and one sided action, and this de- due him on the coutract of a bridge which he built at Ri- | P™¥y of our nature is never more visible than when exercising chard Found’s Mills, which were laid on the tabie. [polkical powers; & W always Uying to mpks its ows party Mr. HOWAT ted iti f, ttl predominent ; it is therefore better, in my opinion, that the f. oe. Poe SD petTosa, CRS MrOes SetNers | eople should take the construction of the Legis'ative Counci! ou Tot 20, praying fur a grant to opea a road one mile in) iniy their own hands, although it does not sppear tbe the length on the old County line; and the other from other Par-| most proper im an abstract view of the case; yetfor he pu.- tis, praying that the Liouse would not grant the prayer of the | poses of this youthful country, srong!y indued with porty feel- ‘consequence would be, that as party feeling would begin to run high, it wou d be broughttv bear upon the Council as cunstituted Hon. members have been alluded to.as having a bu terfly ex e'- ence. I was going to say in reply that a tenure of that kind is more honorable and more self-sacrifieing than if they came here to be seated for l.fe. The gentleman who steps forward when the interest of his country demands it, like the celebrated Garibaldi, and retires when his work is done, evinces a great d-al of real patriotisn, and deserves the thanks of his country. In the Province of Canada, the Counci) was consu tuted under an Act of the Imperial Parliament ; and there were good reasons for allowing the members to retain their seats for life; but | am a'raid that if we merely pass such a measure here ic will not meet the wishes of the couutry. 1 am sorry that 1 cannot vive my suppot to the proposition of his Honor. | do not Legislature. Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—IHlis Honor says that if the present members of this Council were allowed to retain their iseats for life it might be a long time before any material |change would take place. Less than two years ago I took 'aseat at this Board, which was then composed of eleven members. Since that time five changes have taken place, that shows how soon time makesa change. It would operate with this more than with the other branch of the Legislature, because we are nearly all old men. I will support the pro- position of his Honor the President; it is the law of Cana- da. I think that if members are sincere they will adopt it, because [ am convinced that the J3ill in its present shape jast petition, which were referred to the proper Committee. | mgs, it appears to me to be the bes; way, Tne pre. eat Go- flon. Mr. HAVILAND from the Committee appointed| Yerument has been compelled tw du a very unwelcon e deed, to prepare and bring iv a Bill in accordance with the first |*"4 one that should not be repeated , but it cen only ve rre- of the Kesolutions reported from the Committee of the whole | vented by an elective Council. 1 further think the pres at Go- Henee, on the ii tien alt dies one ‘ring | | vernment is entitled to the character of dis nteres’ed sincerity ; | ’ conside ; port on expiring laws, |i, now presented to the House a Bill to continue the Act to exempt | throws it open to the people to return their own meubers ; the certain Bills of Exchange, promissory notes. contracts aud | Bill shall, therefore, have my best support. agreements from the opperation of the laws relating to Usury, which was read the fist time. The 10th rule of the , portant measure ; vut I will not troub'e your Honors with a House was thea suspended, and the Bill was read a sccoud | long speech. Wien I first took @ seat at this Board, 1 was in time; after wh'ch the House went into Ccm nittee on the Bill. favour of an elective Council, and circumstances have not alter- Mr. Sutherland in the Chair When the Camaittcs hed \ed my views : therefore [shall support the motion for the Bull Hoo. Mr. BAGNALL--I w Il not give a silent vote on this) ing lato C ttee. Evident itficul gone through the Bull without making any amendment, the ee ee ee eee Speaker resumed the Chair, and the Chairman reported ac- evidingly. The Bill was thea ordered to be engrossed. present Government overcane by adding a number of new }mmembers to the Council, and if a new Government came into |puwer they will expect to have the sime privilege. Tis, will not receive the royal sanction. Hon. Col. SVABEY—I will support the amendment. I cannot say whether the Canada Bill was amended so as to receive the royal assent; but it is evident that there was has a good working majority in the Conneil ; but it) pone. correspondence on the subject before the Bill was sent home. I think that there is no prospect of it passing in its present shape. Hon. Mr. DINGWELL—I am happy to hear that the leader of the Government is not particularly wedded to the details of the Bill; and if he wishes it to pass at bome he will consider it necessary to adopt the amendment. Hon. Mr. RAMSAY—I cannot support the amendment. [ agree with his Honor Mr. Palmer that it might bea long time before any material chAnge would take place. If we think it would meet the views of the other branch of the | eight years. Hon. Mr. SIMPSON—I approve of that clause. If the Crown had power to dissolve the Council, it would destroy its independer ce. have to the Bill. over this House for eight years, that time. them being elected every four years. tency in two of their Llonors who bave just spoken. | solve them at any time. tuted, itis subject toa certain degree of controul. 'Government have the power to make appointments; bat both the Crown and the people for eight years. Clause agreed to, ' discussion, The Lowse was then resumed. Message from the House of Assembly by Mr. Beer, with ‘a Lill intituled * an Act to amend the Acé to incorporate the City of Charlo: tetown.” House adjourned. Correspondence. (No. 8.) SIMON PURE, Esqr., alizs ABERDUMBEE, TO HIS EXCELLENCY GEGRGE DUNDAS, Esqr., LLEUT. GOV ERNOR—GREETING. Your Excellency will perceive at once, by the above, that [ am of so obliging a disposition that I have changed my signature, to oblige one of your advisers who appears to en- tertain a great dislike to my real name, and says £ am the real ** Simon Pure ;” but after [ shall tell him and his con- ~~ Hom. Mr. WALKER --That is the principal objection I The four fe'lowing clauses were agreed to without ona Pooee conduct. Hon. Mr. HAVILAND as Chairman of the Committee however, is a very unprudent course, at jewsi the system is | presented to the House a Bill to continue the Act relating | bad. I do not think tuat the Council, as constituted, can be to Packets sailing between this Island and the Province of eae independent bedy, and I cannot see any oiler cours: but to| House divided : — inske it elective. Mr. DINGWELL—I have listened with a good deal rest to tis debate; and | expected that some of your Nova Seotia and New Brunswick, which was read the first | is time, aud like the preceding B.ll, read a second time, after | yp jnie: tue House resolved itself iutu a Committee of the whole to Honors wou'd have shown some very substantial reasons fur cousider the Bill, Mr. Sincilair in the Chair. The Bill | introducing this Bill; but [ have not heard any particular was agreed to without amendment. | reason for introdus.ng such a sweeping measure. If 1 siw any Mr. Sutherland having received leave of absence from the | 2°04 reason for introducing it, 1 would support it ; but as far Tlouse tor one week, the House adjourned until to-morrow | 9 Tean see there is none. They cannot show where one Act at 10 o'clock. has been rejected by this House which was for the benefit of the iin March 12 |people. Live in the country, and I never heard a word spoken iol . CESDAY, Sharon 14. yy #bout an eleetive Couueil ; but every member has a right to A petition of James [urns, owner of the horse “ Saladin,” | express his opinion. I do not see any necessity for an elective was presented by Hon. Mr. Laird, praying that he may be | Council, when the Government can introduce five members permitted to take the said horse, sow twenty years old, to|and piss uny measure which they inay think proper. ‘Tue Gu- one of the neighboring ’rovinces ; and the same was receiv- | Vermment is the voice of the major: y of the people. Ai) I have ed and read aud referred to the Special Committee to report | is in the country, and it is reasonable that | should like to see thereon oH “- Y ;_ the country prospering. There will be a great deal of expense ties of by il ty are ne Conroy Beenie 0.008 j attending an elective Council ; and I think the Goverriment a ‘Vers Inbavitapts of the western portion of this 1s-| cay select just as suitable persons at a short notice as the are to have a change let us have it. | The question was then put on the amerdment, and the} frercs as many plain, simple, undeniable, palpable faets from the pea of my uew designation as [ have from ** Aherdumbee” Contents—Hon. the President, Hons, Messrs. Swabey. | himself, I fear he will call “ Simon” as many bed names as Hutebinson, Dingwell, Walker, Forgan.—6. | he has called ** Aberdumbee ;” for it is a predominant pas | Non-contents—Hons. Messrs. Palmer, Anderson, Gardi-|sioa with all petty mischievous tyrants, who trade im decep- ner, Haszard, McLaren, Ramsay, Simpson, Bagnall.—3. sa where they dare not attempt to accomplish their So it passed in the negative. malicious Purposes by force, to hate the publication of their The question was then put, “ shall the clause be agreed | misdeeds. “* Simon Pure’’ has, bowever, a sacred duty to to ?” and it passed in the affirmative. Division same as the | perform on behalf of the poor tenantry, whose representative above, reversing the order. he claims to be, a..d that is to expose and make known the | On the third clause being read— | cunningly devised mz chinations of as worthless and deceitful IIon. Mr. PALMER said—I do not intend to offer an; la gang as ever were uitted to inflict misfortune and disgrace amendment to this clause, but I confess that I would be! on a British Colony by ‘heir bunglipz, equivocating and better satisfied if the population had been taken into con-/ shuffling couduct.—aye, eoncuct Which brought many better sideration. The population of Queen’s County is equal to} men to the gailows. Ana ite most abandoned reckless or greater than thatjof the other two; and if it bad a pro- | creatures, their last act towares Vour IexecHency has been portionate number of representatives [ would support the | the most ctrocious of all. Bat iv o*ten bappens with such | measure more cheerfully ; but rather than eudanger the Bill) persons, possessed of small winds willl much eunuing, that [ will support it in its present shape, the very means which they adopt to m..%ew isk or screen \ land, praying a grant for a steamer to run between Cascum- people can. However, if tle measure was introduced gradually, pee, Shediac, Kichibucto, K&e.—laid on the table. so as to receive the Koyal assent, | would give it my support ; floa. Mr. HAVILAND obtained leave to introdace a Bill | out if we pass a sweeping measure which will not receive the to change the constitution of the Legislative Council by ren- | Royal assent, we will biame ourselves. This was not taken dering the same elective. He said it was unnecessary to go| UP &# & party question in the other branch of the Legislature, into any explanation respecting the Bill, fur the arguments | _ : oo he not be a . oe oe ts rm ae ae which were employed when a similar one was introduced in aoe ttheniien ee ee eT 1809, were as good still. He would simply state that there) jjun. Mr. SIMPSON—I am happy to see the House more Was & difference between this Bill and that introduced by! unanimous on this quest.on than | expected. Hie Honor Col. him in 1559. The number of Councillors mentioned in the Clause agreed to. | The fourth clause, relating to the division of the Cuunties, | was then read. to leave the whole County cpen ; because, by dividing it, one district might not have persons qualified to represen? it. llon. Mr. SLMPSON—We have given a larger vamber of Townships to Districts which are thinly populated; and besides, it is open to any one District to choose representa- tives from another, Hon, Col. SWABEY—In my opinion, it would be better | i at tk ithemse.v.s from the contempt which they ju*Uy merit, ouly tend to reuder their guilt more apparent. itreachery to your Exeelleney in compelling you to write vught to bave filled their eap of iniquity to overflow, \¢, and or ght to have eained for them the tuil benefit of a dix solu- tiou, which would svon enable your Excellency to surron.d y urself with advisers who would rather defend you than try so asely to deg ale you to their own stanlard as much as ’ ' Ther’ tremendous thad letter to Mr. Palmer, the leader of your Geverpment, | Swabey has been very eloquent in his opposition to the Bill. two Bills was the same, namely, 12; but in this Bill they were appointed 4 for eich County, whereas the other pro- vided that th-re should be 6 for Queen’s County, and 3 for each of the other to Counties. By the former Bi:l, the Candidates were to run for the whole County, but by this | His first ubject on was that it would fill tuis louse with pro- prietors and proprietors’ agents. Hon. Col. SWABEY—I deny it. Hon. Mr. SIMPSON— hen ! mast have misunderstood his Honor. He alluded to the Home Government not passing the Bill; but we have nething to do with that; all we can dois to possible. What un ivimaculate crew, who could not bear Hon. Mr. PALMFR—His Honor Col. Swabey appears) even to be jested about the trifl ng error or mistake of one to be under the impression that there is some impediment to| day ia the date of the despatch to the Duke of Newcastle! prevent members from being chosen from another District ;| Lt shows not only to your Excellency, but to every thinking but this is not the case. In the Canada Bill a member must| man in the Colooy, how they would treat you if you were | is Island. the Uolonial Secretary, from reading the above extract would be led to think that /e was the person off-nded, because he says “we reported that be did s);” but he well knw that no person would believe it the sooner because he assert. ed it, and therefore he would fain pretend that it was he Hon. Mr. DINGWELL—It gives the people no controul | who caused the great Parliamentary enquiry, and thar his They would be obliged to majority in the Hou-e declared that tor once in his life support the same opivious in the House of Asscmbly during | believed be wrote the trath. But L trust your Exceliensy ‘does not forget that I cautioned you before that this very Licn. Mr. SIMP3ON—That is provided for by a part of|man was forced on you as Colonial Secretary, as the mere | Jackal—the Paul Pry of his joug esiablished masters, the Hoo. Mr. PALMER —-L think there is a little inconsis-| rump of the old Comjact, to act asa spy onall your When | Excelleney’s movements, and te make you aware of the the principle of the Lill was discussed they thought it was/ risk you incur by permitting any persou to move within a 3 impolitic to disturb the present Council in their seats during | respectfu! distance of Government House, without the sane- lite; now they think the Crown should have power to dis- tion of the * Compacc” first had and obtained. And [ to assure your Excellency, iu the unaffected accents of pure Hop, Mr. DING WELL—As this Ceouneil is now consti- sincerity, that a kecn seuse of this cruel, this monstrous in- The dignity so wickedly and so wantonly imposed on you by those who should be your Excellency’s protectors, is felt by when it is made elective it will be placed above the power of | thousauds 0° honest men and women who never saw your- — ;seH or your accomplished lady, and who earnestly wish to {see your Exevllency from under the controu! of such bar- And be assured you have the power if you ouly have the will, to free yourself for ever from such thialdum, by simply dissolving the A-scmly, and there~ by abate the 2u/sance, 1 have the honor to be, &s. &e. “SiMON PURE.” —-— ¢+—pewe »-— Te vex Kporron or rug Examiser, Srr,—lI perceive by the Islander of the Sth imst., that a new set of chaupioas have arisen im this district to fight the battles of the Government, in the persons of John Murphy Dan Mooney, Owen Clerkin, and four or fiye others. Sach characcers as the ‘gentlem2n jast named were much needed here by the Goveru- ‘ment. For although a large majority of the people still re- | pose confidence in Col. Gray, yet Usey are far from satis fod with ithe acts and general pol.cy of the present Government. kt | would, therefore, im my opinion, be quixe impossible te-find, m \the whole district, any persons other then the above named, so utterly devoid of al] manly principles as tu be espable of such an act of foily as that perpetraed by thes, when they, at t.e request of Sandy McLean, signed that letter which stands over their si:znatures in the Islander ot the Sth ins:aut. | Not satisied wah off-ring their meed of biarney to the | Kvewt. Goverver and Col. Gray, they, the ‘* Too'ey Street | gailurs’’ of Montague, set themselves up as dictators to ali the | rest of the tepantry, by telling (hem to exert the r pa'ience,’”” \&e. What right hove they thus presumptuon-ly to insult the rest of the tenantry of P. E. Island? Are they sv void of com- mon sense 48 to nwagine that the most wretched of the tenamtry are, in apy point, inferior to themselves? D* they suppose i that all the rest of te tenamtry are mere misguided, beniglfed, | smtareghs fools, aod that all the wisdom of tue coun By ts coum )cemrated im their own stupid scales? Do they imagine that }they, men who do not know their own rights nor the ci hts of , others, are capa>le of giving advice to tie Senansry of P. KE. Island, om a ma‘ter of sue! vast buportam e—he Land Que-- }ton? Let me tell them that there have been men, and th.t (there ar: stl men among th» tonantry of PD EY felint, whe | know their rights, aad who have eteod for ber rigins, and iwho will sil] coutead tor them > aad who opp se a dcomicus |the measures and p-diey of the preseut G yerome nt ip refer nee jt the Land (Wues.ie0—who are, imevery pons ard ia every seme, a8 much sapsivr to the * Booley Str-e: fedlo:s” of | Montague—w th Saniy Mele w and John Murphy ai their lhe @—as the pure fuantiin isto tie fetid ees -poorl. The ** lovley Sreet faelors’”’? of Momague a's sey that '**they bave a ecomviveing proof that the presen Governor } possesses more influence with the Luperia! Govermm nt than jany of bis pred-cess rs, frem the tact of hes wiha nce and +x- Ferions io purchasing the estute om whieh th ¥ tesi‘e, and a 8» jinobtanng the seuction of the lup-rnab Government anit e€ grater number of the Lrge pop etors t) submit the Land , Question to arditration.”” Now, Let os see what anount of ‘tru ly is cont ised in this paragraph of they better. First, as to lis **infhuence wih the binperiak Govermnent ” E> tne ‘not as yet obtained the Royal * su ection’ toany one act re~ quiring such, that bum aware of, and cet bowe fur taat pur~ ise, during the two years be adminisiesed the Government of Second, as to the pure asing the Be frat Estate, his ** exe.tiong and influence” bot woud be powerless for measure the Counties were each to be divided into two elec-| pays it, anu then leave it to the Home Government. LHe said toral districts, each district returning two Uvuncillors. Four | we were taunted into it by the people. years after the first elec:ion, the Councillors for one district); Hon. Col. SWAKBEY—HI anil the Press. : : ia each County—which of the two districts to be decided by Hon. Mr. SIMPSON—It 16 well known that it was egiteted lot—would pass out, and a uew election for these districts |** the last election. As regards this House having ti privi- take place ; ayd at the end of fcur years more the members lege of initiating money Bills, that will be an a ter co isider- ' . - Pd ation, whea We can argue tt on betier grounds. of Cvuncil for the other districts would pass out, so that The question was then put, * shall the order of the day be when the Act was fully in operation, there would be an elec- |gone intu?’’ And the House divided : tion in each disirict every eight years, The property quali-| Contents —Hons. Messrs. Palmer, Auders nu, Gardiner, John- fication of Councillors was set down at £500, son, —— — am ty, Simpson, Hutchinson, Mr. LOWAT from the Committee on the pet'tion of in-| Bagnall, Walker, D ngwell—12. : habitants of Central Bedeque School district, in reference ts tty haa sens ay sis. Swabey and Forgan—2 Sv “ the reaming of large of riper presented a Bill which pro- ‘Tue House ‘hen resolved itself intoa Committee of the whole vided that in any Schoo! district of this Island where two-| ., ine said Bul. Hon. Dr. Jobuson in the Chair. thirds of the Householders resident therein might so desire,} (), the first clause b-ing read, ilog Keeves suguld be appointed, who should have powerto) Jon. the PRESIDENT rose and eaid—Before the question take up all swiae ranuing at large io said district, The Bill jis pnt on that clause, | wish to submit an amendment ; for al- was then read a first time, and the rule having been suspend-|though I agree with the principle of the Bill, 1 comnot agree ed in reference to reading bills twice om the same day, it with many of the details. Tue amendment which I am going to was read a sccond time, committed to a Committee of the | Propose is merely to carry out the principle of the Canada whole Llouse, and reported agreed to. Act; and that is what the liberal Goverament intended t» do. 7 hich [ti:s Honor then read a c'ause of the Canada Act, which pro- A number of petitions was thea presented, among wite’ vides that the existing Council shoud not be dissolved ; but was one from divers inh»bitants of the north side of King’s | tha: vacancies, a3 they occur, should be filled by election.] County, praying for a graut to extend a Breakwater construct- | This is the pencep'e on which ; wish to test this House. I do ed Jast winter b titiovers, for the improvement of the ma-| not wish to act tora party ; | would act for this Governmen: Vigation of the Cae c! St. Peter's. 4 as well es for the former one. ‘Those (wo first clauses are the he Bill entitled “*ena Act to continue the Act exempt- _ er a ee = inserted in any Bill. : ‘ , . They could only be justified where there was an utter impos- ing certain Bills of Kxchauge, promissory — ricer apes oibilty of the two Branches of the Legislature mbinnan and agreements from the operation of the laws relating to harmony. I have been 2! years im the Legislature ; and | Usury,” was read a third time and passed. a -|have never seen a dead lock between the two branches of the lloa, Mr, LALRD ae Ze er a = petition Of | Legislature with one exception. Had any important measure James Burus, preseuted a Bill to authorize the exportation of the horse * Saladin” from this Island, which was read a first time, aed the tenth rule of the House having been sus- been rejected, there migin be some grounds for this sweeping measure ; but when every imports! measure has been passed pouded, was also read a second time, passed through Com- m ttee, and ordered to he engrossed. by the Council [ cannot un lerstand why this clause has been introduced, and therefore must look upon it as an ungrateful measure. [ have heard that the ocony require that this : Council should be swept away. ow, | am pretty con- ilouse adjourued for owe hour. versant with the country; and I never heard his shatdhndat till today. 1 have heard the elective principle discussed ; and 1 have always lieard the Canada principle conn: c.ed with the discussion. And when this Bll was introduced | thought it would be cn the p inciple of the Canada Bill. 1 mvve that the fullowing aimendin nt be ed spied ; “Phe Legislative Council shal! hereafter be composed of the present members thereof, consisting of fifteen members, and who shall continze to hold the r seats us heretofure. ‘*Upon the varaion of the seat of sny one or more of the present Councillors, by death, resigna'ion or otherwise, it sival! and may be jawful, so coon as this Act shall receive the Royal ussent, for His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor or the Ad- ministrator of the Government for the time being, to issue a writ or writs forthe election of a fit and proper person to supply such vacation or vacations as aforesaid. The first writ shall be directed to the Sheriff of Prince County, the second writ to the Sherif of Qneen’s County, and the third writ to the Sheriff of King’s County ; and the fourth and other writs shall be directed to the satd Sheriffs respec ively, in the same order or rotation, such e'actions to be conducted as hereinafter pro- vided, and such elective members shall b+ elected until the whole fifteen members of the present Legislative Council shall have vacated their seats as aforesaid. * So soon as the whole fifteen members of the present Legis- lative Council shal! have vacated their seats, as aforesaid, then the several Counties in this Isiand shall each revurn five mein- bers, beiny filteen in all, to serve in the Legislative Council, and there shall be as many polling diyisions in each pf such Countigs sg now ex gt for po ling of members to s-rve in the General Assembly, so that ail the electors may be polled in one day. ‘ ** Each Coynty shal! be an electoral Dis‘rict, and each Dis- trict shall revurn five members as afo esaid * D. Lamp, Reporter. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Faipar Arrernoon, April 5th. DEBATE ON THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL BILL CONTINUED. lon. the PRESIDENT—I do not exactly like to give a silent yore ou this imporant question ; but a8 there is but one motion before the House, and it is not Lkely that there will be @ counter motion, it relieves a member from much be would obverwise say. ‘Ihere is pot likely to be much opposition to tue principle of this Bill , but there will be much difference of opimen as te the dead, [ canaot conscrentious'y go against the principle of the Bill ; becguse it was to have been imtro- duced by the former Government, though in a different mode. What that Government intended t» do, was to earry out the principle ot the Canida Act. | wil! not detain your Honors by entering iate the particulars of this Bul. [will have an opportunity of giving my opinion when the House 1s in Com- mittee. Icannot help thigking that ths Bull will not be very fa- vourably regarded by the country. | have not seen & single pe ition asking for it. Ihe Hauer Col. Swabey is surprised that bw former friends in the Assembly had not voted against this Bill; but it was the retention of the former Govern. ent to iatroduce the pdéineivle of this Bill, snd they would have dune eo if they ad remained in power. If my hoo, friend had been a* long ie the Leg «lature as | have been cagaate know haw wecerwin to Wast to frends in po mcal matters. | «ll now allude to oe or two matiers introduced in debate. First in regord to money votes being sent upseparately. | have giwayva © thet, because | think it is better for this iouwe tO have ai) the greugs for ie pub'ic service come up in one Bi. ‘he memoders of the other House know, that) Hon. Mr. GARDINER—For my part, I am sorry that a although thie Howe nay obj ct to some Heine im the Apprepri-| Bill of this nature had not went into operation 20 years ago ; ation Bill, yot they huve uo alteragtive but to sagction them for [ am convinced that the country would now be in a more or ry eh the shule; and consequently tat the respopssbility | Prosperous gia'e. For many years the Legislative Council was that course here, as it wou'd be limi:ing the choice. Low- ever, if there is an inclination on the part of the majority to have it otherwise I will give way. Ilon. the PRESIDENT—I think it would be advisable to have a clause of that kind, as the Llon. Mr. Gardiner appears to have such a horror of foreigners, Clause agreed to. The fifth clause, relating to the division of Counties, was then read. Hon. Mr. ANDERSON—I would rather see the first District of Prince County stop at Lot 15, leaving Lot 16 in the second District. Hon. Mr. SCMPSON—L think it has been divided with a view to the population. lion. Mr. PALMER—LI think there is more Townships |in the first District than should be. Having plenty of uniet ‘land, it will settle more rapidly. It is better to have a slight inequality for a short time than to have to alter the Act in the vourse of a few years. Ou motion of Hou. Mr. Anderson, the clause was amended by taking Lot 16 from the first District, aud attaching it to the second. The sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth clauses were agreed to without any discussion. On the tenth clause, relating to the qualification of mem- bers, being read— Hon. Mr. ANDERSON moved that the words “ five hundred” be struck out, and the words * one thousand” be inserted. Hon. Mr. PALMER —I confess that I do not fully con- cur in that feature of the Bill. Ihave always been an ad- vocate for members of Parliament having a property quali- fication. 1 know thot the opposite opinion prevails to a great extent; but I think that great benefit is derived from having a property qualification. It prevents adventurers, witbout any stake in the country, from coming forward, and perhaps defeating candidates who really feel more interest in its welfare. This country has improved very much during the last 15 or 20 years. “here are many farmers whose farms are worth £1000, independent of their persona! pro- perty; and I do not think that amount, over and above all debts and incumbrances on the property, woy!d be too high. A man may bein debt in various places; but as lung as those debts are not a lien on his property they do not affect his qualifying on that property. 1 will support the motion of Hun. Mr. Anderson, Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—TI am of opinion that £1000 is too high. A man may be in good circumstances now, but he may not be jong so ; and this Bill provides that if a man’s property becomes incumbered he caunot hold his seat. I trust that your Honors will not support the amendment. Money does not make the man; and [ think that £500 is quite high enough. Hon, Mr. DINGWELL—-TI would like to hear what reason can be assigned why a man worth £500 is not as fit to hold a seat here as one worth £1000. I cannot support the amendment, heeause it might prevent many yood mea who are otherwise qualified from serying their country. Hou. Mr. GARDINER—A man worth ovly £500 cannot afford to come here and support himself as we are doing. £000 is very jow for a farmer. Hon. Mr, RAMSAY—I certainly think that the qualifi- cation is very low at £500. Lf we wish to make this House independent, it should be filled with men in independent cir- see it less than £1000, I will support the amendment. __ Hon. Mr. SIMPSON--L would sapport the amendment if it was vot that [ am aware that sn bou. wember is going have his property qualification, or his place of residence in| in the r power; aud proves conclusively that they would, if) any good were it not th t the Land Porchase Act had beep the District which he represeuts; but 1 do not approve of | they could, place on your Excellency the abominable and, passed by the Liberal Govermnent, and in operation at the everlasting disgrace of the perfily of retaining the ** Act to| time, to enable the pr sent Government to purehaee the Land ; give effect to the award of the Commissioners ou the Land | #24 with reference t» the Land Commiss.on, the whole world . ag > nes é : ‘knows that those famous resolutions introduced by Ce’. Gre (Question here from first of May to first of October, without }in the Session of 1859 and seat home bv the i heel in “4 sending it to Kugland to get the Koyal assent until they got , ; , 3 - | summer of that year, accompanied by an addr: se from the up the memorials against it, and through which It Was re-| House of Assewvly, would not be looked et by tue * Imperial fused. Now, any person knows that the trifling error of one | Government.”? ‘lhe Duke of Newcastle declared, in a Dee day in the date of the despatch bears no more proportion to patch to the present Governor, that he could not advise Her the enormity of the guilt of keeping the Act here from first Majesty to “ sanction’’ ether the address or the resolutions. of May to first of October than the smallest grain of sand | a whatever emount of guud or of evil may seouk from the on the shore does to the rock of (ribraltar, aud hence how | and Commission, it is altogether attributable 10 the nection of rca ip ee oe rs <a ithe Duke of Newcasile himself, and not to the ** influence eagerly they would grasp the opportunity 10 compel your | of rhe present Lieut. Governor or his Council. Kxcellency to * whitewash” them trom that infamous plot of | Further on in their letier the * Tooley Sireet tailors’’ ot Mon- fiendish rascality, were it in their power. Just like the tague repeat the bullying threat coutained in the * famous hypocrites mentioned in holy writ, they would strain at the | Belfast address,"’ by otf-ring their services to the Government, guat and swallow the camel. ‘Tais consideration alone, | ‘to resist and suppress,’” hat i to crush all, and every bod trust, will exonerate your Excellency from personal com-| Who may oie ~ ae to speak out publicly their senti- plicity in that great, that terrible fraud on tha tenantry of 2M condemnatory of the corrupt and tyrannical policy of , .. | the tory faction who now rules, or rather misrales, the desti- preventing that Act to become the law of the land. And it ah nse . mi . nies of the Colony. ‘This par. of tneir letter is so supremely was only “ throwing pearls to swine” for your Excellency to r ! absurd that I deem it unworthy of any further comment. spare them from the scourge which they so richly merited— At the end of their letter, the * Tooley Stree: tailors’’ of that you did not, when writing under their most barbarous; Montague, under the direction of their Grand Master and and inhuman pressure about that discrepancy in the date of Cap’ain General, ‘* Sandy Somesing,’’ vent their foul-mouthed the passage of the Bull, which they have called the “ lying” | malice at the Elitor ot the Lxaminer—the man, above all cumstances. I would rather see no qualification at all than despatch—inform the world at large that it was dheir own negligence, incapacity and horridle duplicity, if not down- right villainy, that caused that Act not to be forwarded to Kugland ia time to have it passed, ere the land claimants had time or opportunity to petition against it. It is noto- rious that it was the business of the leaders of your Govern- ‘meut to hand you the Act in question, without delay, and to request your Excellency to forward it with the proper reasons why it should pass, and they not having done so, you would have served them properly by applying the ‘ lax talionis” and compel them to sign a letter similar to yours, exonera- ting your Excellency from al! blame in the raseality of withholding that Act so long. And as such ingratitude and tyranny on their part can never be overlooked by your Lx- eellency, their prowpt dismissal from office, and calling to your assistance those who have the welfare of the tenantry at heart, and in whom the people have confidence, and then dissolving the Assembly, the same as Governor Bannerman did in Newfoundland, would be one of the most equitable and popular acts of your Kxcellency’s Adminstration ; and the hurricane of indignant scorn which they would meet at the hustings, wore resistiess than the Alpine torrent, would consign them to that eternal oblivion which nature and their own rampant misdeeds so well fit them for, and be ample satisfaction for the wretched bastness und cruelty perpetra- ted on your Excellency in that “lying” coucern. But a little reflection will clearly show whence this little “ tempest in a teapot” originated. The Colonial S-cretary, W. H. Pb in his editorial in the Islander of 5th April, 1861, after Coles’ speech on the cceasion of the * lying” despatch, says : “ [t is denied by Mr. Coles and his friends that any personal charge was made agaiust His Exeeilesey, Mvery member of the majority and numerous gentlemen outside the bar, at the time Mr. Coles spoke, assert most positively that the ac- complished Leader of the Opposition did accuse His Excel- leney of falsehood and lying. “The question is one which immediately concerns our- selves. We reported that be did so—that we had heard him—and declared that we could not be mistaken.” | Here, then, your Excellency hasa sad specimen of the | Col. Secretary is. After the lapse of five or six weeks, dur- /ing which period what your Excellency did write, and what _ Mr. Coles said respecting it, had remained uxpunis ved ; and part of a laboured article and report of Mr.! malice of the * old Compact,” whose mischievous tool your | ‘others, of whom they have eve Ty reason to be proud, and to , whom they ought to be forever gra eful—the man who freqa n’- ly and successfully defended their ** counry and their creed”’ against the calumnious attacks of the biggted faction of whom Sandy McLean and Jack Murphy are now the willing tools. It will be easily perce:ved what the motives were which in- | duced “* Mr. Smith the Teacher’? and Dan Mooney, the kee per of a Sheebeen h use at Mootague, so resdily 10 proceed to the upper sett ement to vbtain siguatures to ** the address.” | Mr. McLean, as L am informed, acted as a sort of half School | Visitor, under Arbuckle, in some of the Belfast settlements during the past winter, as Donald McLeod, ** Stone House,” did in Lot 50, during the winter of 1860. This will at once account for the alacrity with winch “ Mr, Smith the teacher,” who 8 not the best “ teacher’’ in the world, but who, no doubt, considered that McLean’s * influence’? might be of some ser- vice to him hereafter, went to obiain the signatures to the ‘* famous Be fast address.’’ As for Dan Mooney, John Conly, Owen Clerkin, &c. they are so often in Court with bad cases, the favour of Sandy McL ian and John Murphy would be of snch importaree tu them that they would not loge it on any cansideration. John Murphy must have felt quite big when he first saw his letter printed in the Is/ander. For “ snne persons love to see themselves in print,”’ aud from the number of capitals it con- tains and their frequent misapplication, | am quite willing to give Joha Murphy himself full credit for ite authorship. Sandy McLean would have certainly made a better job of it. Ae it is, however, I am sure it will ‘* astouish the natives,” who, on seeing it, will be sure to exclaim ; “( But, John, 0’ late ye’r so decernin’ Folk wonder where ye got the learnin’, Wi’ ‘* arrears o’ rent” and “ eight year’s” earnin’ Ye mak’ us stare ; The critics noo maya tak’ a warnin’, ' And shun thy snare.’’ But after all, Mr. Editor, it is, perhans, difficult to ascertain what were the motives which induced Mr. Murphy to pen his penne letter. Impelied by his inspiring genius, he might, perhaps, be desirous of becoming an author. But I believe |the great and all-prevaiing moive with Murphy was a | desire for Government employment, that is a desire for ‘* more- fee.”’ Persons were to be appointed to take the census, and _Murpby wished to be one of them; and as it would be highly | desirous that a fair specimen of his isadweiting and powers of composition should be submitted to the inspzctiva of ** Col. 'Gray and the Governor,’’ would it not be quite reasonable to conclude that the latter motive was the one which prevailed with Murphy? But alas! fur all haman expectation Joha Murphy wae disappoined? Whea Siunty McLean was en- | (rusted with the distribituion of the Government garbige in | Belfast, he took good care that he would share with Murphy ee dentbait_=