THE CHARUTITETOWN GUARDIAN :Pglqlblici Resentful Of _ s (Anti-Police, Campaign m i Says Hon. Mr. Arsfenault ~54‘? KonJlhArssna :"W allowed thseonsctpolitimlm ‘x itis of course the duty the 01mm. meut to see that no citilen suffers fromwantoffoodwclotbingifit is at all possible. Canada under Premier Bennett has done wonder- fully weu in that regard. But to. only. Do I understand Lhqg as meanthattheOppositionisinfsy. our of the Government building houses for Double in this Province!" Council Meeting ‘Government Member Charges With Grave Responsibility In Partisan Attacks On R.C. no lug Y PTQi-GOCIDI the health 0f the pggpls held its meeting on March 9th. 'l‘he of this Province. and we are jugti- fled in keorins them informed o: conditions, so that they may pm. tcct themselvm against the eating of Waters that may or my no; be diseased That is the situation, Am ‘thisreportdoesnotmakeitsny position would be available only in an advisory capacity. . Higgins reported that Mr. J. 0. l-lyndman had not sent any brief go the members st Ottawb. as be was working with a Provincial Commit- tee on the same subject. _ Mr. Higgins thought that the Board should take some action to- ward presenting before the parlia- mentary committee on Banking in- forlllliifin on the matter of varying exchange rates in different sections. He also pointed out that firms un- der s style name in this province did not have to be registered, It was decided that m‘. If. K. S. Flemming as asked to lock into the latter ques- on. Regarding the exchange rates. Mr. R. l. Hutch thought that the Board should be ready to advance informatim to the parliamentary committee. While the exchange was stable now, there had been occasions when there had been a variation of three or four percent. The estab- lishment of a central bank would not remedy the situation. A -lettor oi ‘- ‘ ‘ement oi‘ ations was received from Mr. B. J. Hungerford, recently ap- pointed pasident of the 0. N. R. A letter from the Summerside Board of Trade pointed out that mail for Summerside was being brought by train from Moncion in- stead of by plane. A request from ll. R. Large for the aumort of the Board of ‘Prado in uking the railway for the installa- tion oi a scale in the yard was read. 'l‘he matter was referred to the industrial Committee. A letter from the Summerside Board of Trade called attention to the circulation of a petition throughout Prince County request- ing s nominal fee for ferrying cars from ‘ib- tine to Borden, and requested the co-operatlou of the Charlottetown Board. The matter was referred to m. P. W. ‘iurner, who was asked to cou- sult Premier Macmillan and Mr. Justice Arsensult, President of the Tourist Association on the matter. IIITIB uTirierrr-ae North ‘ii-yon, March ll. 1034.9)!!! and lflmllaloydll. Bowen, (nee Pemie P?" ‘ l, a dsushtu‘. Grace Eloise. snrsoN-At Freetown, no. 1a, lsaatcuuansasra. Fredfltetsoms daulhiei‘. Prods Eliza. (SOLIS-At Milton, Feb. 23, 1934, lomzandllrswallace leOoles,a son. DIATII I -\At Montague, on Wed- "Udli- lllfla l4. James W. Mur- flwi. lid 41 pears. Funeral Iri- dl-rataeueerireui the Presbyter- is-n church. Meier for our people in their deal- 1118. It is a very serious report." Remedial Measarq When tho Government rep". tatives were at Ottawa on Jm l7 they had an interview, Mr. Bharp explained with Dr. Found, Deputy Minister of Fisheries, in connection with this matter. m, Pound said that before taking any drastic action in regard to closing the area of the north and west livers it wes intended to send rep- resentatives to the United Statu Where they have had considerable “Dvrience in this matter. Their areas are so situated that they have had to adopt certain methods of treatment whereby oyster; an - u from contaminated ares; to nail-contaminated areas, and free themselves from contamin. ationlnthecourseoftwoorthree weeks. All available information on this subject will be obtained. the Department working in co-qpq. ation with the Biological Board in Rlldinfl “Ports here for the pen- pose of determining whether s similar method can be adopted with success. _ - .- He regretted that the hail. mem- ber iwm Bwesv Baibour should have made "a IIIOUIIBMD git of a molehill" by broadcast that there is oyeter disease and that the Government was the areas affected. trying to protect the people, know- ing that six persons had died." Mr. McIntyre said he had not til-ted the oysters were contamin- ated, but that there were no sta. tistica to show that any typhoid cases could be charged to diseased oysters. Hon. m. : "I sin sorry I have had to make this explan- ation. but I consider it only fair to the Minister oi’ Health, who was only trying to do his duty in the interests of the people of the Province." Anti-Police Propaganda w. sharp next dealt briefly with Opposition criticism regarding the e f “' law lioe, he explained. had coat the Province about $8,000 a year. ‘this Government was fortunate in get- ting an agreement whereby the ser- vices of R. 0. I. P. were made ter where they are found. their re- has remained unsullied. , ' In Nova Bco7a, however, the us. ..r§§ri M. P. And Scores Activities Of “Political Busy- “bodies” In Connection With Relief Payments- Mr. J J. Larabee Speaks From Liberal Standpoint. Wholesale abuse of the men of’ the R0 Mounted Police who are engaged in enforcing the laws in this Province was severely scored in the Legislature yes- terday by Hon. A. F. Arsenauli, Third District pf Prince, who declared, amid loud applause from Conservative benches, that accusations such as had been made against the Mounted Police by Opposition members would certain- ly bercsenied by law-abiding people, while on the other hand they would doubtlam enlist the support of _ bootleg- gers and other law violators who are only foo desirous of seeing the law officers discredited, m. arsenault was speaking m the debate on the Draft Address. He charged unwarranted attack on the man may have a personal grievance against the Police," he said; "for in- stance, if be were parked with his car and the Police ordered him to move on. He might feel very sore and want to ‘get after them.’ But anyone who has eyes to sec must realise that these men are a splen- did organisatiton. They have a great record of service to Canada, and they have extended that service to Eastern Canada. We have them here, and I think we made an excel- lent bargain in obtaining them. A large expenditure was forced on this Province by the Liberal government in maintaining the Provincial Police, In the last year of their administra- tion the cost of that force was over 882,000, for fourteen or fifteen men. We had the opportunity of obtain- ing the Mounted Police for the sum of 815,000 per year, and we Jumped at the bargain, because we felt we cmlld expend the other $17,000 that the Provincial Police was costing. to greater advantage: in the relief, for exaumle. of the poor. These men were thoroughly trained to their wot, and we all know how essential training is in every occupation." The n vincial Police, Mr. Arsen- ault continued, afforded the govern- ment opportunities, which did not te now exist. of obtaining jobs for their friends; but surely the interest of the Province was the first thing to be considered, and many people are of opinion that more efficient work can be done in law enforcement by strangers than by people who have friends and relatives in the com- rrlunity Commended lly Churches “I think," continued Mr. Arsen- ault, “that the different churches throughout the Province are satis- fied that we are doing the best we can." Mr. Lea: "That may be. but that is not good enough." Hon. Mr. Arsenault: “Perhaps the ex-Minister of Public Works is sorry now that he went so far in his state- ments. He may wish to take them Mr. Mclntyrs: "Not at all.” Hon. m. Arsenault: "lie said the ‘ ’ Police were ‘absolutely no good’: that they were ‘ninety psr- cent inefficient‘; that they were ‘ab- solutely inefficient.‘ We of the legal profession very often are in contact with the police, and we know that statements of that kind are simply ridiculous. We find them very ef- ficient when they have to give ac- count of anything that is going on. We are getting many of them to wwk day and night throughout the ,. vince; they are great wonkera. The hon. member from fico (w. LoPaga) says they are not sincere. take the ex-Minlster of Public Works, he goes altogether too far.‘ Mr. bsPage: "l said they were not ainoera so far as enforcing the Pro- with bootlegging, it was my hon. friend from Rustico. (laughter). Think of all the statements he has made on the subject! Yet he says A he is not connected with them.” Mr- IePr-xe: "Not associated with them.’ “Did He Report It?" Hon. Mr. Arsennult: “He also said he knew certain men who were there on this occasion, and had liquor. Did he report that to the Mounties? May we not suspect my hon, friend of some ulterior motive if he didn't. l-Ie was very quiet lest year, and the year before, on the subject of Pro- hibition. But there is likelihood of an election coming on within a year and s. half, and he knows he has won two or three elections on that subject, and he is talking so that 4t will come to life again when he comes out." M-F- T-QPIRH “There were more than me quiet last year." Hon. Mr. Arsenault: "Yes, a good many were quiet. I remember one of the best Liberal workers in the western part of the Province, who was a strong advocate of Prohibi- tion. Not s0 very long ago this gen- tleman was discovered in a hotel, andhehad got intosuchastaie that ha was trying to typewrite q letter on the cash register." (Laugh- l‘). Ml‘. '1'. A. Cali) . Mr. Arsenault: “He was sway from the Province when this hop- pened." (Laughter). “The hon. member from Rustico," continued Mr. Arsenault, “charges us with insincerity. Can he accuse us of interfering with the Mounted Police ‘in the prosecution of any case under the Pmhibltlon Act? On the contrary, we give them every assist- ance we can. .We give them the a- mendments to the law which they request, and we find that the supply of illicit liquor is getting pretty low. In fact l might ask some of his Lib- eral friends, and a good many of them that am such strong Prohibi- tlonlsts around election time, and who are going parched now, are go- ing around complaining that the Mounted Police should not go to dances and other entertainments. The Liberal Iced!!! ‘The horn. member also recalls the detective whom the Liberals employ- od here from Montreal, who became associated with bootleggers and got so dnmk that they had to send him bank and withdraw the cases. Let him repeat the words of his former leader and Premier, that ‘the mach- inations of the bootleggers are be- yond the corrmrehenslon of msnll (laughter) They carried liquor, according to his then leader, in hot water bottles into the jails, and it was like a game of chequers with the bootleggers always one move a- head." Those were the conditions under Liberal rule, according to the than Premier's own admission. My hon. friend was a member of the Government at: that time. He was what I might call the ‘leader of the Apostles‘ during those years. And he comes, new. and challenges u.s with o7 being ‘not sincere f" (Loud applause) Continuing, ssr. Arsensult said it was well known that under Libm-sl rule a number of bootleggers rvorc living in luxury They apparently could not be dealt with. But once the Mounted Police got after them, been a in the Hm. Ir. Araensuli: “l might say ll that we have many complaints from yal. Canadian‘ ween when unscrupulous Liberals round vrewhins w. the people that so-snd-so is getting relief and that they am illet I8 lmwh entitled to receive it as the other fellow. ‘that iswhatisbelng doncby agood many Liberals today. Thai is what is making the administration of rs- lief so difficult a problem. (Ap- plsusc). of applying for relief are being bold that they should ask for it, because somebody else is getting $5.00, ‘Those men listen to these kind words of an Iunkind expressed the th . VlflCB member, the system has many evils, and evils are tuated go s- People who never thought friend, sndgo to the 59v. t, demanding relief. 5c we are placed in this unhappy situa- tion. It should be the duty of every representative to see that no abuses are allowed to creep in, because it is difficult enough to look after those cases where real suffering exists." Commands Clergy In this connccti n Mr. Arsenault of the Govern- ment to the clergyman of the Pro- for the valuable assistant! Ythey had given in inquiring into Cir. ‘cumstances of liBtress and advising where relief payments were needed. He contrasted their helpful attitude HON. A. F. AB-SBNAULT Hon. Mr. Arsenault: “My hon. friend from surnmerside (Mr. Mac- Neill) will remember the man who was making home blew in the jail in his time; ‘Shakey Toe’, l think they called him. (Laughter). So far as conditions in the jails are con- cerned, there has been s. great im- provement since this Government came in. Everyone admits that." MI. Lea: “N0!" Hon. Mr. Arsenault: "They admit it in Prince County. The conditions there are good." Denounces Propaganda “I think," continued Mr. Arsen- ault, “that these accusations direc- ted to the Mounted Police will cer- tainly be resented by our people. (Applause). Those men are doing the best they can, sacrificing them- selves day and night. They are wil- ling to travel, infair weather or foul, to ell sections of the Province. The great majority of our people have respect for this bravo and ef- ficient force. It is quite true there are many law-breakers who do not like them; and the words thrown out by the ex-Minisier of Public Works and the hon. member from Rustico will no doubt enlist the sympathy of those men, who are not in favor of the Mounted Police; and that may prove of some help to my hon. friends in the next election. But they should be very careful when they make accusations against men of such high character, and think what effect these statements may have on the welfare of the Province. (Loud applause). Mr. Arsenault also oflered s vigor- ous defense of the Government's road widening policy. Great care had been exercised at all times by the Public Works Minister, in the interest both of economy and effici- ent maintenance of public services. He instanced also important pro- grass made during the year in Edu- cation. Following the establishment of a fourth year term at Prince of Wales College it was the purpose of the Government to raise the stand- ard of qualification for school teach- ers, and improvement which would be of great advantage to rural sec- tions especially. P, W. C. Foundation The Government had been char- ged with blundering because they had not retained the 01d foundation at Prince of Wales College. This foundation, the speaker declared, had been found to be inadequate and unsound. Mr. LePage: "Were there any ar- rhitecis in this city who stated that inc foundation was not sufficient to build on?” lion. Mr. Arsenault: "Are we to be limited to the opinion of one or two architects in Charlottetown? We consulted the best opinion we could obtain, because we were expending a large sum of money and it would have been risky to take chances. If something had happened as a re- sult of building on the old fmmda- tiou, my hon. friends would be the first to say ‘Why didn't you build a sound foundation.‘ (Applause). We know now that the foundation is sound, and my hon. friends need en- tertaln no fear. That building will standthers whsnwearelens sod future generations have passed. And soitshould. ltcoatslotofmoney wehads rishttosee thatit ii. WI have no re- t some." of the Carnegie demonstra- tion librsry. The people of Burn- msrltde were very FIRM W "I Premier tor his suocaful efforts in obtaining this benefaction for the Province. Usserwpuissalmpsnnh The hon. member from ltustico, alinAmsnsult oontinuedhsdmain- tainsdthatthsfiowunrneatsnorlld havsmenthatthsigflmflofhderal 87 BN9“! "limb! tbarallwsywwsrtyatdaariotte- had been IBIL INN“. ifl some twenty houses for pagarlda. he with the partisan efforts of those who were endeavouring to create Jissatisfacllon. “Political Busy-bodies‘ Mr. Arsensult said he trusted that if further uneploylnicnt relief is ne- cessary next full, these "political busy-bodies" trouble, will realize their responsibil- ity in the matter. who are stirring up The same thing, he said, has oc- curred in the administration of Old Age Pensions. Persons are being canvusscd as to their age, and why they are not getting pensions. In his own district, Liberal workers, not residents of the district, had driven a lot of persons "half crazy" about old age pensions who previously had no thought of applying for pensions, and who were not entitled to receive anything under the Act. Such pro- declared, emanates from men who are not good citizens of the state. (Applause). The speaker emphasized the dim- ger of policies of relief in taking away initiative. Opening Remarks Mr. Arson-suit at the outset of his speech yesterday referred to the world depression of the past few years. The hon. member from Rus- tico (Mr. lePage) hsdrefeired totho evil of large combines which have increased their profits at the ex- pense of a large number of people. This was true, but the speaker be- lieved the digression has taught a salutary lesson in regard to this matter and in future profits will be distributed more equitably and with great benefits to all classes. Having heard the Opposition lead- er attempting to lecture the Gov- crnrnerlt, he noticed that the hon. gentleman's remarks were getting "milder and milder" each year. A few years ago when in office, Mr. Lea had threatened lo be a real Mussolini. l-le had advocated more taxes. "Choke them and hold them by the nose if they dldift take it" was then his attitude toward the farmers. Mr. Les: "Now, be careful. I may rise to a point of order." The Opposition leader had also boasted of having made Falronwood Farm a model farm, said Mr. Ar- seriault; though it was shown in the Public Accounts that production on the farm was no greater under Mr. Leah management. The Opposition leader, continued Mr. Arscnault, had also encouraged the farmers to grow more seed po- tatoes. ’I'l'lis practice encouraged a habit of gambling in agriculture, and when the price of seed potatoes went down the farmers had to give notes at the bnnk to pay for their fertilizer. Consequently the advice of the Opposition leader had been harmful in this regard. Our farm- ers would have been better of! had they ignored his advice and stuck to mixed farming. The Opposition leader had nlso lectured the House a few years ago on the merits uf Currency inflation. l-le had drrppcd this subject. Now he is preaching economy; "The far- ther he goes, the closer he gets to the Conservative policy", added Mr. Anenault. On every platform Mr. Leo had mentioned the great occasion when he and his colleague (Mr, Wright) were stuck in o mudhcle at Free- town. How humiliating it must have been for both of them, showing how frail after all is human nature. In the future, the speaker sug- gested, sorne historical association will probably erect a monument on this historical spot. Seriously, he considered such petty, personal crit- icism as anything but creditable to the leader of the Opposition. Ln- stances such as these could be cited under any government and did not pirove anything. Home car drivers will get stuck l-IIYWIN- Th0 Only likely to be served by such statements was to develop a taste for extravagant expenditures on the ds. isfsctlon as to the condition c! the roads last summer. m. McIntyre had himself admit- lbd m!‘ when lli 011106 hg hgd no control of his department. Hs had said that he did not blame the pres- ent Minister but his officials His leader. m. Lea. had interrupted to ask “Why not?" The leader of the Opposition evidently did m; mime stand ‘allxuydbdrhladclntyre should have been‘ one " by his department- al officials. Mr. McIntyre: “I want to remind my hon. friend that when l was in the Public Works Dapartmeni, dur- i118 the election campaign, he wrote to mo. about some particular jobs that he had ordered in his own dis- trict, asking ms to pay for them, u my hon. friend says I had no con- ‘nstance where he was taking the Department into his own hands." l-lon. w. Arsensult: “I cannot rs- call having bothered my hon. friend i0 Dill’ bills. and I am sure I never took the course of my hon. friend to his left (Mr. LePage) in going u. round, hiring and‘ firing right and left. However, he has admitted that he had no control of his Depart- ment. When he says that I took control of his department, I think it makes his position more ridicul- ous." (Applause). A Liberal Responsibility Mr. IlePage had criticised the road grdvelllng policy of the Government on the ground that the roads were not in proper condition when the gravel was applied. This work, Mr. Alsenault rxpinted out, had been done in the fall of 193i, just after the Liberals had gone out of office. Mr. licPageb criticism therefore meant that Mr. McIntyre, as Min- ister of Public Works, had neglected his duty in locking after the roads. (Arplause). The Liberal increase in public debt and heavy bank overdraft of over $l,000,000 had forced this Govern- ment, Mr. Arsenault said, to go to the money market at an incpportune time, whereas the overdraft should have been taken care of before the Lea Govelnment went out 0f office. The elf-Minister of Public Works had inslnuated, he continued, that the Premier should give up his med- ical practice because he was in re- ceipt of his portfolio salary." Mr. McIntyre: "l never made that statement." Hon. Mr. Arsensult: "That sugges- tion was made; and my hon. friend should have thought seriously before uttering it. I wonder if he gave up his work as a lobster packer when he was in office." Mr. McIntyre: “I never made that statement, that the Premier should give up his practice." Mr. Arsenault: "You implied that he was drawing too much money, and that he should divorce himself from all" other interests." ‘ Mr. McIntyre: "I never even said that." Mr. Arscnault said he accepted the denial, but a statement to that effect had been made, and he wish- ed to point out that the Premier was attending to all his official duties in the most conscientious and satisfac- tory manner, and that was the question ‘with which the public was concerned, not with his private af- fairs. He thought that criticism on that score, in connection either with the Premier or the leader cf the Op- position, was wholly inexcusable. Mr. Arsrnault than took up the question of prohibition enforcement and other mailers, reported above. In conclusion, he said we do not find in this Province the elements of communism and radicalism existing in some parts. Our people have at times been discouraged. but they have been law abiding and this fact is one the government appreciates. Now that conditions are improving, he hoped that a salutary lesson would be learned from the depres- sion, and that in prosperous times there will be s more equitable dis- tribution of profits, and more gen- eral enjoyment of such benefits. than has hitherto prevailed. Ml I. I. LARABEE Mr. J. J. Lsmbee, Liberal, Fourth District of Queens, who followed Mr. Arscnnult ill the debate, first ex- tended congratulations l0 the Speaker, tho l-oomicr. the mover and aeconder of tho llrafl. Address. l-ls agreed with what had been said re- garding the ilppOllllmPflt. of Lieut. Governor Delllous; also with regard to we death of Lieut. Governor Dal- ton, Premier Stewart and Mr. C. J. Bruce, his colleague to whom Mr. Larabee paid a very feeling tribute. Mr. Larabee lkreed that condi- tions are improving and that better prices are being received by our farmers. ft has been said that Can- adian banks are sounder than the banks in United States, but he would like to ask if our farmers and fish- ermen are financially sound? The banks will not accept our farmers‘ notes and the result is that they cannot obtain an advance to finance their lmdertakings. lt ts true, he said, that pork prices troi of the Department, that is one '“ ngt‘ r r “ 2% nature may salts a word str-atlv payable In j _ rumrsar. vesrnnnav-‘rna i funeral of the late Mrs. Mhrgnsoi’ Cnsswaahcldfmmherlntorelid-_ ence. North River, yesterday morn- . ing to Bt. Dunshn’! Basilica. when HighMass wmsungby Rem!‘- ton, after which the remains interned in the family plot in R. C. Oemete y. Service at the Donald. ‘me pail bearers Messrs. Burgess Newson, 1a son, James Doyle and Wm. Cul Jr. The many friends of Mr. l. Cousins regret to learn that he entered the P. E. Island Hospital an mention. l-le is doing as we as can be expected. LOO-Women's United Prayer Ber- vice - Hearts Memorial Hail. , ‘LOO-‘ruxis Squares. competition on the mainland, which l they cannot meet, for butter boxs, ‘ at 121,5 cents delivered at Cllarlotta- i town. lathe and other material as! being oflered by mainland firms It , prices which makes production hens , urgirofitablo. If our people do not , get a better price for their lumbar they will have to close down their mills, he believed. The farmers could not understand the spread in price of such products as wool, hides, wheat, etc, between ‘ the price received by them and those charged for the finished product. Ila-Ir Prices Necessary . If our farmers could receive a fair l price for their products it could be safely said that this would solve half the unemployment problem in Cara- da. a He was surprised, Mr. Larsbsa said, that our provincial subsidy claims had not yet been adjusted. notwithstanding the election cam- _ palgn which the Conservatives had ' waged. “It seems to me that w! are as far away from getting an ad- justment of those claims as we were four years ago," he declared. ‘rho Liberals hsd been criticised because they got only “sympathy” but the present Premier did not sp- parently get that, as he said they had been treated "like troublesome children" at Ottawa. School Fairs Approved School fairs received unqualified lvproval from Mr. lsarabee who said the Department of Agriculture could times superior to those at the Pro- vincial Fair. More encouragement ' should be given to exhibiting cattle at school fairs. The Department, he thought, should do more to encourage the breeding of horses. He deplored the importation of Western horses which were often of an inferior type. Old age pensions had been "a help . in some cases," Mr. Larnbee said. Ha l thought, however, that something more workable. Everyone in his district who was receiving the pen- , slon was. he believed, enilllcd to it: i though there were some in similar circumstances who were not gelling ' tho pension. lie cited casrs whore ' he believed disadvantages had arisen ‘ under the restrictions of the Act. in such cases be given to him priv- atoly. form, Mr. Larabee continued, was _ that Old Age Pensions would in paid entirely by the Federal Government, whereas the Province now has b0 pay twenty-five percent. ‘mat was one of the reasons why the Govern- ment had lost the confidence of the If they were in doubt. he by-electlon in the Belfast District. . Mr. Larabee criticised conditiul Elli?‘ 2 ( Collin-B. VCtOL‘ Collins, L. V1138!“ S l I I ; s; these fairs. 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