EXAMPBER. THE AOE EERO hk ETO Ts ree ge tien of a Bill for the aniendment or alteration of the present mode of the Lwpoat Revenue, ther intention should have been Intimated Sins tke medium of His Execellency’s Speech, in whieh there ss was room eacagh for sach inGovation, and more; for, God knows, | it was sttated and me hiven ander the old regime, party af present in power 80 @ sparingly and viruleatly igre Ci ugh, which the TPS Asie d, ta throw, nothing so UNconstlualic val, nothing se directly tleadwg to mn subversion of the rights and privileges of this tioause, hed eyer proce eded fiom the Hiead of the Government, as the Messige which has jast been delivered to this House by the Hon. the Col. Secretary. Woen the Goveranment parposed— the introduction of any mousere of pablic importance, it had always, hitherto, been the practice to latimate the liteation, by means of the Speech. What new light bas arisen here, or has proceeded from the other eide of the Adaatic, by which this Excellency and his advisers, have thought proper to be ga led in their departure from the old, established, and constitutional mode of eviling the attention of this Louse to any subject, conceraing which ey wished ta induce fevisintion, I know not; yet Lom at liberty, I presame to conjec- ture the reasons Which may have caused tiem to rec ommend, to tlis Excelleaey, the adoption of the anpre ecedented and unconsti- tutionat mode whieh he has pursved on the present Occasion, ht eveme to me that the Hon. the Colonial secretary and other mem- | burs of “he Government, having seats m this Honse, may have | advised Flis Exeellescy to the course which he bas pursued, tn order that, should they be disappvinted in their expectation of > ‘ ’ , : ; . at tay > .- } > padacing the House te take ep the subject in suck away as they desice they should, they may be abie seemingly, ta preserve their credit, and escape the shame of a defeat, by Dawng U In thei power in a manger to disivow any respensibiily concerning the | measare; aud, wath apparent anconcern, to say they had taken up the subject merely in ncquiesceary with a wish wi His Excel- leney.coveyed to the Honse by a Message; but it was not a mea- eure the introduction of which they had seriously contemplated and resolved upon, b face the opening of the session, or, other- wise.it weald have been noticed in the speech tational assuaiption of absolute authority, on the part of a Gov. | ‘ th ernor, would pot, even in the days when the Executive {ouncit were merely the nominees of the Crown, have been so sarprising as it is now, now when we are told that the Goverament—the Executive Council—~are, throagh the operation of the principles of : Responsible Government, chosen and consitiuted by the people | il themeeivea. Of their being so constituted, this proceeding of His Excellency gives however, only a negative proof; for, ifthey really represented the people in the Execative Council, they would op- p wed any contemplated vet of the Lieut. Governor, whieh, hke the Message which has jost been dk tary, would be a direct violation ef the privileges of the peaple’s representatives. ‘Their having acquiesc din His Heceilency’s presi pion of the propriety of seuding this Message is an ande- niable pre Wf ihat. although they may nol, in all respects, be the sxubnissive servants of His Excellency, they certataly are not the faithfal servants of representatives of Lhe peapie tn the Executive Counc. ‘The tendency of the present systers of government, as . >to Work wards resnonsibi rather towards absolatisn. lion. R. Moosev.—The hen. and learned member who iad inst sat duwa, had eertaialy afforded the House much a- miusemeéent by the oneal Pfor display « f indignation, zea!, and excitement, real or pretended, with which he had taken upen al a8 ‘ 4 ; . er him to dectaim against an aneconstituiionar assu enh on Sane mp hen prwer, as he styi iit. whieh had no existence, gave in his awn imagination ; aud of patriotie® determination to d *fend the, leaialative rights and privileges ¢ f the Huuse, when nel- | ther invaded, aor threates j with invasion, [rem 23! y quartet r Whilst be achnow rdged him lf amused by the hightv ex cited and determined manner, ia whren th Lon. and learned member had repelled a § adew, cunjured ap by himself, he could vot but, at the same time, Conless the concern, the ap- prevension, whi b he felt, lest the very eneras which he had azguitied h F prove tae much fur bis natural powers of en to-morrow, ho might find himself tie manner, li iis assumed part, sho hd j rc “ae i , surance, Ana that imself of nat e leo tive duty auit tof iegisialive uly. The object the hen. and learned svember seemed to have i : . + } i > n quarre}, and to create 4 j e would yiewWw Was to coas tiie vuse rout aboul notuing. fi such really Was fia 0) et, airely be disappointed, The majority of the Lluuse had quite as inuch regard for their legislative righis and privileges, as the hoa. and learned member could possibly tave, but they siw ao occasion to t2k@ Np arms in thetr del nce, SO long 28 they were satisfied that they were perfectiy secure. The n sceSSILP for the tlause’s t aking into cousideration the system for the collection of the lmpost Reveaue which has hitherto becn in operation, has been very properly brought uader the notice ef the House. by Us Excellency’s Message ; and he had no doubt it world be received and responded to in such a manner as would, not Only be expres Ver Majesty's Representative, but afford a proof that neither she Government nor the majority of the House were afraid to i ike up qu >stt guch issues as would prove their regard for their general geod Hon. Con. ' nif that had been uttered, by the tion. ao } learned member tour Georgetown, withse m ish vehemence a ud intemperance f f declamation. against the means which had been ad pte d, bv his iixcell ‘ney for bringing under the consideration oi the ilouse the preseu mode of collecting the i upost Revenue, hae (iiva, Col, ‘Trea surer) thought ita very proper é@ae. it was, in fact, acarry- ing out of one of the principles uf Resp smisible Government, which required that notice should be given, to the Legislature, ofany new measure which the Government were of opinion ouzht to be introduced and passed; of guat by timely intima- tion their atfeution shvuld be partienia Vy called to the con- sideratioa of any established me : bad sot been altogether sa satisfactory, or quit to the general good, as it nad been jntented to be; aad, to ve of dae respect for ms, however ticklish, and to presecute them % PREASURER.— Nothwithstandin isure, thy eperation of which ite so conducive him, it certainly appeared to be a matter of uo Mument What- ever, whether such notice, or such intimation should be made by ‘' the Speech,’’ o: by Message; since, im either way, the governing principle was observed; and there was not, and could not be, in a Message, 30 conecived and so expressed as was that which the Hun. the Col. Secretary had just deliver- ed from His Excellency, any thing more dictatorial and an- thoritative, than there would have been in couveying to the Jiouse. or the Legislature, by means of ** the Speech,’’ what ia merely an intimation, on the part of {lis Mxceliency, ef the evils, aff:cting publie credit, aud the integrity of the (sovern- ment, whieh have been found to arise from the vperation of pu existing system, and a perfecily respectful espression of a trast.—as far as possihie from having any seuidlance of a com- ynand,—that the House will concar wih him, in regaiding a subject, vitally affecting the hosor and interest of the Colony, as deserving their most scrious consideration rom bis position both in the Treasury andia tue Government, than tbe oo ope conld be more fully «ware of the evilsarisiag from the system at present in operation fur the caliection of the Iinpost Revenue; and of the dificulties which might attend the progress of any legislative measure which might be devis- | ed, with a view to the remedying af the defects of the syslem, ja such a way as, whilst it would effectually provide for and secure the payment of impost duties to meet the exigencies of the Government, would, at the same time, afford due enceur- agement to legitimate enterprise. /f he might have his own way, he would entirely do away with the preseat system of col- lomting, and securing payment of the [mpost Reve duties chargeshieand payable upon imported good most other countries, be paid at onee, Tn Hatilax such was ihe practice; and payment of the duties was not made, ur re- ceived in Notes, batinepecie «[tlon. J. Wicurman.—There, they have bonded warehouses ] Yes; and sv ought there to «dnt of M18) and a is should,asin be here, in Charlotietown; and securities for the payment of| the propriety of His Excellency’s Messa daties upon imported goods, stould be taken only on acevant of those which wera lacded at the outperts. ‘The hon. and dearaed meinber for Georgetown iad said, that the Wovern- ment bad beea afraid to assume the responsibility of a mea- | sure fur the alteration of the present system of collecting and securing the payment of tmpest Duties, and had, therelore, sought to shelier themselves beneath a Message from His Bxcellency; bet be could tell that hon. and learned member, anat he, (the Hon. Col. Treasurer) for one, was not afraid, as a member of the Government, to assume his full share of | any responsibility which could attach to the iatrodaction of euch a measure, and neither did he think any one of the Go- vernment inthe louse wasso ‘The proseyt was not, per- haps, the fit ume for him to enter iste auy pariicular expla- nations of his views ether concerning the evils atlegdant upon the operation of the present system, or of the alleratious there- in, by which he conceived they might be remedied ; but he would be prepared to state them when a proper opportuaity fer doing sy should arrive. Hos. Cov. Secerrary.—The Georgeiown, not satisfied with giving vent to the indignation, with which, he would have it to be belreved, Llis Execellency’s | Megazie has filled dig, has taken eecasion nat only te boast { tis: swe with soaetuing like a determinatiun, on lis part, never a npn catia nttl aaoman ne afguanann nent Hii they had estubiished their own role vpon its overs | Suchan unconstt- | tivered by the Colonial Secre- | _ pe menaine centile tne LLL again tosolicit the honor of representing them ta i , : aililin fa oh a Alas! for the people v Geergetown! What will nothing; and etill less effective is the use of coarse appella Who then, , tions, except in so far as they serve to damage the argu- /menta and the oratory of him who has recourse to them. sembly. become of them, if they should be so deserted t with ouardian care, will watch ever them, and zealously seek liye advanee all their interests?) ‘Their situation if se forsaken, will be pitiable indeed. In all the exuberance of a self-con- l grarulanng aud boasiful spirit, the hon. and learned member | has told us, that he covets not office and looks with indiffer enee, ifuet with pesitive contempt, upon a valtry aalary of £300 or £400 a year; intending, thereby, no doubt, insidiously ¢) east disparaging reflections upoa some Who are in the receipt of such official salares. [Mr. HL. Havitann.— Whoever i thinks the cap will ft him, as at liberty to) put it on ] The lion. and Jearned member was however the very last person | ' | House, the bon. and learned member shall prefer any speet- fic charges of lavish or unwarrantable expenditure, against the Governmeet, J trust we shall be found well prepared to repel and disprove them. Until then, bis accusations may weil be allowed to rest without farther notice, on the part of any member of the Government. With respect to the land ageney of the hon. and learned member, I do not know that I said he applied for it; and-he says he did not: bat still that does not prevent my thinking that a friend of his may have made tie application for him, of which, as it proved saccessful, I doubt not he was very glad: and I beg leave to congratulate him upon its success; although, if some speak truly concerning their land agencies, they are not quite so fat as. they appear to be. Without any fur- ther ubservations from me, the House will decide, on the hon. and learned member's motion, to what degree of res- ct His Exeellency'’s Message is entitled. Hon. F. Lonawoatu.—I cannot support the motion of the hon. and learned member for Georgewwn, All Messages of the Lieut. Governor should be received with respect; but j U think that, under Responsible Government, nothing in lreality affecting, or even only seemingly affecting, the in- | dependent legislative action or deliberations of this House, | ought to proceed from His Excellency. If His Excellency and {his Government thought proper, last year, to sanction the | | | { who could in any way feel himself at liberty to sneer at, or i reproach any with love of office oi its emoluments, after his having so long held and so unwillingly relinquished an office, icertuinly one of the most paltry in the Colony, and besides an | alimost perfect sinecure, with the paltry salary of £100 a | year aitached to it. If he wnteads his observations to apply lito me, | beg leave to tell him, Lean live quite as independently without office as he can; yes, aud more independently. ‘There | Pe | was indeed but little independence manifested by him; the other dav, in his eagerness to obtain so paltry aa office, as a petty agency. {Mr. il. Llavinanp.—TI vever sought it: | never ap- plied for it} That may be; bat if'a friend of the ben. mem- ‘ber made an application for it, on bis behalt, & was mach the same as if he had applied for it wunselt. ‘Tue hou. and learn- ed member bas argued that every purposed measure of the Government should be ia the Lieut, Governor's Speech. / Why, if suci a practice as that were adupied, the Speech might oe made almast as long as that of the President of the | Uniied States. Measures in coniemplation may certainly be ‘occasionally omitted without any impropriety, or the least and their oim-ssion i | ‘ i 4 { measure now in operation forthe collecting of the Impost Revenue, may it not be usked, why are they not prepared to sinction it now? and, what peculiarity of circumstances has arisen, except of their own creating, to demand or make necessary any alteration in the system now! Atall events, jabandonment of established principles ; jsupplied by Message, or Messages, in dae season; and, to the , } as ation or amendment, should not, in my opinion, have been ik ot ; : ior : ; lint : i thie as been suggested to the Speech. I have already said, and I say again that J am most | intimated in the w 'y in which it b st pom 8 lggeste Ps ¢ | willing to sustain my full share of the responsibility which | A0US¢- If it was thought necessary to bring the subject attaches to the intimation made ¢o the ilouse by the Messaye inmediately under our notice, it should, I think, have been ‘ ‘ 73 ; ‘ i aug . 3 os yee : yh ee . See | Ste <4 S IS . ; eco! nde ) sider: vir he Speech:”’ | Che hon. and learned member has said that we (meaning the | Commecn a ! bo ¢ : con : ratior i‘ : , ¢ . P C i I : be . am aorry that the hon. and learne ember for Georgetow ' members of the Government) are afraid to bring forward any am sorry that the hon, and le at me Cie E ov . measure for changing the present system of collecting and hue proc ‘eded so far as to move the rejection o 13 LXCei- lency's Message concerning it. That it is the duty of the ‘flouse to receive respectfully every Message of the Lieut. ull, quite as courteously as if they had been noticed in the Font d Governor, has been urged wit erfect propriety; but with lafraid to introduce any measure which ;| Governor, has been urged with perlect propriety; it If, however, when the public accounts shall be before the | the necessity which it is supposed there exists for its alter- | | the unconstitutional character of the message, that a mem. ber of the Government (the Hlon. Mr. Wightman), bas ad. mitted its impropriety, by demurring to the regularity of sending it to the House whilst actually in session. Of the correctness of my own view of the message, I, however needed not his testimony to be convineed ; but [ am glad of \it, because it shews ulat there is a want of Gbanimity in the Government, and pleasingly recais to my mind the de- claration, that s house divided against itself cannot stand. but must fall. Thesame hon. momber has said that I have treated His Excellency’s message with derision. I say § have not; for I consider it to be far too serious a mater for laughter. I eay that it is a dictatorial and yp.” constitutional message, and as positively a breach of | the privileges of the House. In thia there is fittle food for merriment; for, if we submit to it, our ooey. pation will soon be gone, and we shall shortly hecome, as has been said of another chamber, little better than a Court of Record ; and our legislative functions be narrowed dowa and confined to the mere enrolling of the decrees of the Go- vernment. If onee we allow the small end of the wed to be introduced, it will not be found a very dificult bugi. neas to drive it so effectually home as thereby to effect tha ‘complete disruption of our constitution. We should then | goon find ourselves compictely under the insolent donsinatior: of a selfish oligarchy. Would to God that we tiad hore the | Government of Canada! There freedom, there responsibjj. lity to the people, appear to be fully understood. There ig has been decreed that no one having any vonnection with the collecting of the revenue shall have a seat in the fouse j of Assembly ; and, by the exclusion of impost collectors }and other office-holders tuerefrom. and by denying, to re. \ venue officers, even the privilege of voting at the elections of parliamentary representatives of the people, the Canadian House of Assembly have secured to themselves perfect Je- gislative freedum; and the consequences, it cannot be doubted, will be acts of pure and unselfish legisiation for the general good of the people. J certainly do not wish to treat His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Her Majesty's representative, with any disrespect ; but I will not for |my right of freedom of speech concerning any act tending , to a breach of our privilegee, whencesoever it may proceed, Lhe act, the message ia question has, f believe, been egn- | eveted at the Council Board ; but, even did I look upon it ,as wholly and directly proceeding from ilis Excellency by those now in power, is, certainly, mot to- | we were couvineed | was requisite ether for the maintenance or the furtherance Phe hon, and lmember bas, mast His Exeecliency a | stranger, in his warmth, forgetting iat the Lieut. Governor ' | . ; j}securiag the payment of impost duiies; but 1 take leave to ‘ ‘ i. t j tell him that we are nat so, and that we have never yet Geen | 1 lof the best iterests-of the country. indeeorousiy, called nc pacentialiv a part ofthe Levislature as we rseives are i8 aS essentialliv a part ol Lhe Legisiature as e ourseives are b&b Persons are always most apt to be betrayed inte indecorum of learned h : ; rather than Lis Excellency, lam wholly at a loss ‘to ima- what propriety it ean be said, as it has been, by the Hon. | alone, that consideration would not make me in any way 'CMonial Secretary, that we may be accounted strangers,| more guarded in my condemnation of it; and yet no one 'ean be actuated by stronger feelings of loyalty tian myself, If, on a division, I stand alone, i shall not be ashamed of | my position. vine. {ion Col. Seeretary—L said nothing of the kind. | Vell, then, I must have quite misunderstood him. Last year, wuen the Revenue Bill was under our consideration, the House. on this side, wished for the establishment cf a Mr. COOPER.—What I think ought to be taken notice of ty, bot irresponsibility; not towal is fredom, but | hon. and jearned member for | idepealence at to threaten his constitutenis at Georges | language when they fiad themselves unfortanately engaged in Tt : a hae : ae. : ay ide ae | bonded warehouse, in which all imported liquors might be ithe serious malnlenauce of some proeposiioa 80 A2NgUR, that), j ; : é j y ; . > ‘ ; | deposited, to be taken out when and as sold, on direct pay- ithey cannot, bY any Course vi Carm and yust reasuuiong, susiain : ; + ‘ -" i 7 . jit;and, in such a pusition, the hon. and learn 1d member, finds J ment of the duties thereon; and all the opposition made to the propos i] proceeded, | believe, from the other side Hon. J. Wigurman.—The remarks made by the bon. and , ; | himself, as the uge of language so unjostifiahle as Wat which | he has app! ed to His Excellency, fully proves. | Mr. H. Uavitanp, on his again rising to speak, was re-| | minded that. as there was no motion betore the House, he The boa. and learaed member then said, I move that the Message be got re- was out of order. have heer ade wit) ; ; * thenws ante ¢ a : : ave been made with the intention «{ throwing caontem { will make a motion. : ¢ iO a A pt upon His Excellency. No instance is on record, I believe, : } | ceived. sas A at is 7 of such an act of discourtesy, by a Legislative body, towards Hon. the Spraxer, looking around the House, observed, i the wotion is not seconded. Ilon. the Con. Taeasurer.—Well, that the | learned member may be afforded an opportunity to pour out posed by that hon.,and learned member; and ill indeed ecame him, for certainly be vught to have known better. is Excellency's Message does not in any way border upon, or savour of dictation: it werely points oat, and invites our attention toa necessity, of the existence of which every member of this House, who is as well acquainted with the i financial details of the C slony as he ought to be, mn. and 1 ai re ewe gas : a oi i the remainder of his indignation, [ second the motion. i 7 . . 1] |} Mr. H. Havinanp.—lt do not return the fire of smail lteries; | think it sufficient to answer greas ones. [t the} i ‘ ' ~ ~~ hat- | secutive Council are under the immediate eonirol of the | : Li ut. G e@ un ler the contro: al the Secretary wor yr ane i VCP Buu ti ‘ j cannot lies at hem is. from time to time it } but be fully aware. All know that by the Revenue Act of HieSs AL me. as, tryin tite crit ty c ; . <" ‘ . : lust year, when the duties, tobe paid by any importer, amounts to more than £100, credit for the payment thereof is given for 12 months, and, with a farther indulgence of , the credit amounts to 15 months. Now, in con- er , sequence of this eredit and indalgence, it unfortunately Col. Secretary ; . : - ° : ‘ye Da es happer i her oney he K service was re- ing a possible severance of the political ties, by which Lam | !@PPes d that when m mney, for the Koad service was re Pes ee i are eis ale ol eae “oe quired, it could not be obtained; and the Bank would not at present boand to the constiiuency of Georgetown, 4 re-| | modate the Government with a loan of £1000, even ; . ‘ ; a nccon i ue ment Ww a lod } > gaid not. I allow it to pass for what it is worth; and that} sna tae cea 1 ‘ol asia ? see tat ix hes Bat what I said before | repeat: as a member of = 1@ best segurity which could he given. ouch a 10an this House, Iam as thoroughly independent as any gentle however would not have been required, had the duties been wii RULES» ahi ‘4 a ou as ‘ c tai at ] 2° hee man who has the honor of a seat 1a it; and I iota mae 2 made payable at the end of 6 months. Tf so, at the end of wan ¥ tit ius He LY } a& see ' * pe: i ° et ies Fad eire nat whether, after the approaching dissolution ol it, | Hat time, mioneys sufficient would have been collected to 7 TT eee ee _ —— so - 7 oe } at a} 2 : } é > yf . : ie [ ever again raise my voice here, either as a representative yeees ail demands, both OB eccouns of thy road ore and ™ of the free schools. The emergencies of the Government, . . ; ‘ Seas + 7+ sf State lor wae \ is made pretty evi arnament 18 & inere ; j . 4 i ne power ent we are, woat is calls d our loe il Goy- hutematon, set in motion, by t of strangers: it exists only ia name, and in reality we have} W bat the hon. member (bon. bas been pleased to say ironically concern- 3 months no ¢g wernment cl var own. 2 ; is 11tLcie. ' )¢ Georgetown, or of any other constituency in the Isl ind j. Pig a s ; b die tsaweheat " ¥e es Ly : , 7 in consequence, certainly became pressing and embarrassing: And tl the bigh-t med rebuke, which the i ce, certainly became pressing and ei ar re rurs ot oo. shOUWAL slanaing ; ; Hoo. Col. Seeretary has aseumed to himself the right to; ., | : , : Foti tf ahaa f speech concerning Ili of bankruptcy or bergary, the state in which the hon. and dom OF speecn concecermMing is | ‘ " ‘ : " ; Ete . : ts posed ‘learned member for Georgetown bas said they were in. The j embarrassment experi need by the Government was not oc- lezes, as the representatives of the people. It is an undue | either by livish expenditure, or unwarrastable iezes, a na represes tALIVve » ue rf OPE. > 4nUue Deeiabons were p + a ca iy Bt ' ; - sualyg al ce meddling and iaterforence with a matier the arrangement | appro; Fiattons, such as they have been vaguely charg d ye eee ‘We ra ae ee : soll biases jwith, by that hon. and learned member, buat were solely of which, propersy and w hubly belongs lo us aba times. | , ate ; ae . , ee hoe : side ) i : ee! a lattributable to the long credit given for the larger amounts Any and every portivn of the public revenue, we should be; ; ; ‘ sc > ; K 4 , : E ; i atl hae d lof duties. From their temporary embarrassment, the Bark left perfectly at liberty to collect, secure and expend as we | aa on - ie ee yes eres may think best. With respect to the agency, concerning however might easily have relieved them; and tuat too may think best. With respect to the agency, concerminé | without suffering any loss, bat securing an advantage. Still which'the Colonial Secretary bas thought it fit to taunt me, ee " 5 e : [ say that if he asserts that L applied lor it, he asserts what | is not correct. I tell him, to his teeth, that I never applied | for it; and that, whatever agency I hold, and business tg : eee ; ee ey ; : i doing ‘business be ¢o et reve Her hrovughou transact, | owe it to my personal character that the ono has doing oT. s mpletely revolutionized throughout . : ; ithe Island, 'ong credits must be giver lf a man imports veen conferred upon me, and the other entrusted tomy|—", rag ? AS auc ae t : * coe we A] Diate hea o ’ } alia i .| go0as to a consiceravie-amoun s ve fe sNOWN whe management. Ihave no wish to soand my own trumpets |? oe re a od east as ae dctus Wsekindies but, thanks be to goodness, I can tell the Hon. Colonial) a he green rs t S6t st Secretary and others, whatever they may say, that I have dati sufficient by sales therevf in J months, to pay the fate ee TE ge Tee ee as ptrg : ** | duties at the expiratic f that peried. Lis principal pay- a of toh es oo austen i cee ; the in 2 uties at the expiration Of that period. is pring } 4 pay never solicited, by a single line of wrung, OF Y Par ent ments, for the “wobae sold wil in all probability, be in any agency, emolument, or business, and that all that has; " Latah ts Ri will Ka Bs aa & holdte he bank ve falien to me, [ owe to nothing but my personal reputation. | Sie eehiat ent ce oth haat ROT Sees: Pear Te tT: ' : = ' f° . : 1z@ money in retur s Wil uve pi Some ernaps With respect to the change in the system of collecting the See ean tC tet ae po cern? Gon ae fmnoat Revenue. which the Gusérnment hare.in coatem- a considerable time. inp it Svevenu > WHICR the Government have In contem Semi ' d the t a . c id x tion f th is Hi use for Nea tic » ntl caw that tha dntiae shoul be eee soe | Geihangs toe Mose Serious Cohsigeration G is ouse, i i , Pag Oak me mn ion et ee a pene a 9 j ithe vital interests of the country areinyolved therein. Such ‘1 oH _C 1 See iS ara? Tana eee ke 'a Message as that of Uis Excellency was certainly culled ; ae on. ) ‘ ecretary Gids ana one Seen rear c Piibiay for; and ought to be res} ectfally received by the House, if not, the Government was a queer ofie. Por the present, | even although, as we are in Session, it may appear to some however, let that pass. ‘The necessity of making amaiter-) i et high It. sical wa ala ! a heen bet- : : . a z ; : mat Coe Mtiinacon Which containg Would Have been vet- ation in the system of collecting the Impost Revenue, which : i. Svein hia ‘th en ao ; te i ‘ at anot! Bat nd + »* : dn tin er giver MK e c feyea Ut = ANOLE : ,~ an they pretend to have discovered, is not, however, so much | na © th ‘y cogs, ar m with the h * tl Tre ne 7s t . es. 2.) 9M BHOTHC ray. nnnoes agre tn i on. the an attributable to any wins fects in that system, as It 1s Oi .> : , ya ce Pig nea a priate. sone - : ar it ss M ond | surer, that all Impost duties should be mide payable im- OS easel inka ta eee i eee: b y which ‘mediately. Should they be made 30, the effect would be a et PAET Shee Teens Terr whee reee ae J | eircumseribing of the legitimate trade and commerce of the jextravagance, notwithstanding the very large amount of | ¢ Credit (9 wr a9 . ‘ording to tl i sere fa wuntry. Credits of 3, 6 a1 mouths, acd¢ordin o the | the Revenue, they bave destroyed public credit, and brought | sith s ob arts ra ' : : "1 aes ne "I i k. be fis ; 5 Bares oe ; a eae ie ORS & srent aAMOonTS O ulics to 028 pald, ‘ ; iin } themselves to the very verge ol bankruptey: and very) 7 antageoustly oe ea bat P t the same time, I thi k elad are they at being able to persnade themselves, that, | very adyantagcously gry . Bt, Ab Whe se ae neg, nk, i 7 © . | we cancot guard too carefully against making any such pro- ‘yisions ia the Revenue Act, as afford encouragement and mm me, for my free iixvetlency’s Message, lL repeat, tional and indelreaie; and directly trenches upon our privi- the Message is unconstitu- casioned, enterprise, [am an advocate for eredits of due length for by laying their present pecuniary difficulties and embar- rassments to the charge of the unfor*unate working of the} ° iti Avi ‘dis! ; ) system for the collection of the Impost Revenue, they may | one ities to fylug ae fue 10 raat iu my ti , or in ? * oe ~" . . a” t "2 . ; , . > racer: i sls “a probably ward off some of the pablis indignation which the “pe inure of ruin t ' air and settled trader; and also, per ye c sadigs: - aps. a ccrtain public instit srs i bigial eit consideration of their beggarly condiuen has aruused | laps, a ccrtalt public institution, concerning the princi 7 | throughout the country. | lon Con. Treasurer rose to explain. TI said jmight have my own way, that [ would caus) the limpost |duties to be paid at once; and 8y prevent persuns from | trading in public monies. | Hon. Con. Secreraky.—The fate of the hon. and learned member’s motion will best explain the opinion, respecting “ | | that if 1! might not be quite be coming in me now to speak; but of iwhich, an approaching meeting may very probably call forth some surprising disclosures. not afford ereetion would be objectionable on the most evident prin- ciples of justice; bat the present system of collecting and securing the impost daties may, I think, be greatly and most advantageously emended, by limiting the credit pe- ' * 7@, entertaine db ithe House. LI shall, therefore, say nothing more concern ling itin that light. The hon. and learned wember has | said that the fuoli is not im the system, but rather in the “0S oe aaa a improvidence of the Government I, on the contrary, say) riods to J, © andy months, it i@ in the system, and the remedy can be tound onlylinw| Mr H. Uavitanp.—It would appear, on this occasion, | rectification of the system. The system gives a credit of a3 if FT had no friends, either on my right hand or on my | from 3 to 15 montis, togeneral merchants and other im- | left, still, [regret not having made the motion, from the | porters. low then, Task, when so long 4 credit is given, | sappsting of which my old political friends appear to lean the Governuient, can the Treasury be prepared ts meet shrins; and, althoagh on a division thereon I may stand the demands made upon them, on account of the public ser- | alone, L shall not be ashamed of my position. It will, at vice. Ifthe public service cost nothing; or if at involved | least, be evident that [am not sectuated by party motives. | but little or no expenditure of moneys, then the existence [ say we have not Responsille Government when we have of such a system of collecting impost duties, as that whieh not the benefits which such a system should confer upon |is now in operation, might be tolerated; but, when-itis;us. If we had real Responsible Government would the | found that the supplies for the public seryice, which should | Lieut. Governor conceive himself privileged to send, or be duly derived from the impost duties, came into the Trea- | would the Co'onial Secretary, the leader of the Government ‘sury so slowly and inopportunely, in consequence of the in this House, consent to bring down’such a message as ‘long eredits given for the payment of them, that the exi- that now under our consideration? No: and that the | gencies of the public service cannot be duly provided for; it country is mocked by a name, and deceived by a si:adow, lis surely high time to think of amending the system, either put forth instead of a reality, is clearly proved by the fact iby shortening the periods of eredit, given to importers, for that the Lieutenant Governor has conceived hirself at ji- ti he payment of duties; or, perhaps, in some instances, by berty to send, and the Colonial Seeretary—i beg his ‘doing away with the eredit system altogether. Vague and pardon, the Premier, for so, I believe, le loves to be eailed indetinite charges of lavish and wasteful oxpenditure, such | —hbas not hesitated to present to this Houee, the represen- as the hon. and Jearned member has preferred againet the tatives of the people, @ message which directly sirikes at learned member fur Georgetown, and the mution which he) has made, relative to the Lieut. Governor's Message, seem | to me, to have been conecived in a*spirit of derision, and to } re} resentative of Mujesty, as that which has just been } but they were very far from having brought it to the verge | however, as desirous to encourage legitimate commercial | the payment of impost duties; and, unless vur mode of | The sabject is one which imperatively | | ples which appear to govern some of their transactions, it | As for bonded ware- | i houses, itis quite clear that only one could be provided, land that in Charlottetown; and that, therefore, as it could | requisite ace yaimodation to all the country, its | is, that, undersuch circumstances as those to which the Mes- | sage alludes, an Individual to whom a Treasury Warrant may have been granted, wants the raoney which it ought ts repre- sent ; but, owing to a deficiency in the Treasury, caused by the long credit system in operation with r spect to the payment of im post daties, he cannot procure cash for his warrant at the Treasury ; and, in order that he may procure money for ithe relief of his immediate necessities, he is obliged to part with it, at a large discount, for cash. Now some : neasures i ld be afforded that ought to ve taken, whereby security « freasury Warrants, on pres ntation at the Treasury, would ibe paid at once. There was a time when they, to whom Tres- sury Warrants were granted, were generally sutiatied to have them endcrsed for interest; but, owing to the great depression of trade and the scarcity of money, that was not the case less summer; when individuals haying contracts were obliged, in order to procure money to pay their workmon, to part with their warrants, at heavy rates of diseount, t merehants having duties.to pay into the Treasury ; and who, thereby, obtained an unfair advantage over bona fide public creditors ; as the warrants so procured by them, at discount, were re- ceived, in payment of duties, for their full facial value at the Treasury. | hope this will be an efficient warning to cause such arrangements to be made as shall cause Treasury War- rants, in fatare, to be paid in due rotation. Mr. YEO.--~I think that shortening the time allowed for | the payment of impost duties would not be a public benefit; ‘it would only be a throwing of stumbling-blocks in way of \legitimate traders. But, at the same time, I think tha: the manner in which irregular and unsettled traders, from the facilities afforded them by the present system, fill diferent parts of the country with their wares, and carry off nearl jall the ready money, is a very serious evil, and one for which | it is our duty to provide an immediate remedy, if possible. Ae | fer bounded ware-houses, it is impossible to establish them at all the out-ports; for the payment of the numerous officers, 'who would be required to superintend them, would be an evid |almost as serious us any arising from the system which we are now called upon to amend, I do not speak as one concerned on his own account; for [ do not eare about importing any }more goods myse f; but I see very clearly that some improve- ment is required, either as regards the mode of collecting ihe impost revenue, or as respects the manner in which it is ex- pended. Contractors for publhe works, schoolmasters and others, who want their money aud cannot afford to lie out of it, should not be made to suffer fur the benefit of others, by the continuance of an ill-working system for the collecting and securing of impost duties. Bonded ware-houses would be too expensive ; but I think the system might be improved by making all small amounts of duties payable at once; and by giving credit, for a reasonable length of time, fur the payment of duties, amounting to such sums as £300 or £400; and strictly providing that when they became dae, they should be paid at once. Amendment, lam convinced, is certainly much needed; although in what way it is to be obtained I cannot tell. Than the financial resalts of the working of the present system, hardly ary could be worse. Such matters may be in a very bad state in Cape Breton; but they oan scaresly be worse than they are here. ; Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—It appears to me that the hon. member hes been speaking against himself. The bringing im of a large assortment of goods by irregular or non-resident traders, and there being granted to them long credits for the payment of the duties, affords them opportunities to sell off their goods at comparatively low prices ; and, with the moneys thus realized, to leave the Island, and return again with new supplies, to be quickly cold off again, in the same way, whilst ' the duties upon both importations remain unpaid, to the injary’ tof resident established traders; and, in the end, perhaps, either the Government o their securities are defrauded of the amounts of imposts duc -‘om them. But, perhaps, this is wandering from the qv. ‘.n. To return to it: the hon. and learned member for Georsz .own has said that the communica- ' tion made by the Message before us, ought to hu ce been made ‘in the Speech. Now, by reading a passage from a constita- tional lawyer,—from May, on the law, privileges, proceedings and usage of Parliament—an authority to which, perhaps, ithat hon. and learned member will modestly defer,—TI will ‘show him that Messages, such as that of which he has, con- | trary to parliamentary usage, moved the rejection, ought to be regarded as mere supplements to “the Speech.’? The hon. gentleman then read as follows :~— ‘The subjects of such messages are usually communications in regard to important public events which require the at- tention of Parliament; the prerogatives or property of the Crown ; provision for the royal family ; and yarious matters in which the Executive seeks for pecuniary aid from Pariiament: They may be regarded, in short, as additions te the royal speech, at the commencement of the Session, submitting other matters to the deliberation of Parliament, besides the causes \of summons previously declared. This anelogy between a ‘royal speech, and a message under the sign manaal, is sup- ported by several circumstances common to both. A speech \is delivered to both Houses, and every message under the sign ‘manual should ajso be seat, if practicable, to both Houses; | but, when they are accompanied by original papers, they have oceasionally been sent to one House only.”’ 4 Mr. H. HAVILAND.—As the subject of the Message is in no way adverted to in “the Speech,”? the Message ean hardly be accounted a supplement, or an addition to it; and neither ean the Message be justly regarded as submitting another matter to our deliberation, besides those for the dae consideration of which we have been called together; for the |eoHection of the reyenue is our chief object in every Session. | Althongh I find no support amongst hon. members with whom \f almost uniformly act, I still adhere to the opinions which I | have expressed concerning the Messege; but it must be very iclear, standing alone as 1 do, with respect to my motion, that I have not made it te serve any party purpose. (To be concluded.) KR. B. Invine, Reporter. the As-| Government, he himself must be very well aware prove their chief fundamental privilege. So obvious, indeed is = mk ee. mee