PAGE TEN [HE oreoslrlozv 1.1351051? RE VEALS A our. Alarming Situation Revealed’ THE CH a In Analysis OfPublicAccounts By The Leadergof The Opposition (Continued from page 1) lerent story, if he would. He could toll how many accounts are scatter- ed throughout the length and breadth of this Province that should have been raid last year and have not bean raid and are not included in the Public Art-cunts. We do not know what they ore, because they have done away with the External Audit. That is the situation. lion. Mr. lllclntyre; happen in your time ‘?" lion. Mr. Stewart; "Perhaps it did, but we disclosed it in the External, Auditor's report. We were honest ‘enouch to show it. lloll. I\lr. Mclntyrepyve can't dis- rltxse anything that is not in. lion. Mr. Stewart: "Did my hon. friend disclose the expenditure of over $13,000 in .his department for building the "highway" which bears his own name? Vl/hat about that? That was completed before the 31st of December. Why was it not put ln the Public Accounts? How many other bills that we have not heard of are south-red around? Why do we not get u list of those things '.’ They don't want to disclose them! That is why they did away with the External Audit, the only protection llm public had itgninst these gcntlc- “Didn't that men who are so fond of spcnding= IIlOIIPY. (Applause) lion. Mr. McIntyre: Nu other Pro- vince in Canada has an outside llllfiil. V llnn, Mr. Stewart: My hon. friend has the bad habit of interrupting and making statements that he knows nothing about. l-le tries to de- monstrate knowledge that he does not possess. As I said, we have not. the information that should be be- fore this House in dealing with the 'Public Accounts. We know, by o. statement tabled the other day, that work of some kind had been under- taken under the federal employment scheme and that provincial revenues had been expended on those projects in order to make the federal grant available: but we do not know how much, and perhaps we never will, at feasts» long as these gentlemen are in jfijyer. ‘flluflis the situation. We do not knowfiwhere this Province stands w regard to its indebtedness; i? INTEREST CHARGES grim-re is another matter in con- rrection with the Public Accounts to oijtich I wish to refer. That is the nfotter of interest charges. I shall t e the figures just as I find them ggen here. The interest. of course, is ‘yable by the Province on its in- gbtedness. That indebtedness may ‘ in bonds, or bank overdraft, or shirt loans; but they are all lumped {aethcr as interest charges, and of : rse. the amount of interest should l£ieate the amount of the indebted- S. ivith these facts in mind, let us View thc financial situation. 1n 1926 if; last full your of Conservative axl- lstration, the interest was $74,- In 1920 it was $74.097, a slight lfltrense of some $300. We thought at t time that that was very strange. know that the debt of this Pro- ce had increased tremendously in t time and by searching the Pub- Accounts we found some entries t ucrc not carried into this col- Province, on the basis of an interest payment of $74,997 as against $148,- 137, we find that it has doubled in one year. That ls the situation as we flnd it right on the faoe of their own blue books. I shall now make a comparison of the increase in debt under the past two governments. My hon. friend the leader of the House had' a. great deal to say —when he got away from The Guardian-ab0ut “assets? That was his principal top- ic apart from the newspaper criti- cism that bothered him so much. The same thing was dealt with last year by his pl‘6dC'C€§Ol' in a most farcical manner. He capitalized, among other things, the roads that had been built. Now, I can quite un- dcrstand, in the case of a merchant or tradesman owning property, that if he wishes to ascertatln how he stands he will place a valuation on his stock and carry the figures over as assets. But why does he do that? Obviously because he can realize on them. That is what is done when you are winding up the estate of a bankrupt or a. deceased person. You make on inventory and you value the assets because you have to realize upon them; you have to convert them into car-h, But do We contemplate that this Province ls going to from; vcrt its roads, its ferries. its bridges, its public buildings and all those things into cash? It is a strange afraid if this Government remains: much longer in power, adding to the ' interest charges as it has been dolug during the Peat year, that we may have to do even that,—we may have to go under the hammer! Valueless Statement But let us not anticipate any such catastrophe. As a. matter of fact, o. statement of that kind, in working out the financial standing of the Province, is not worth anything. It is of no value whatever, because‘ we do not contemplate selling our grav- elled roads and other public works. What would we get for them if we did? A calculation of that kind does suggestion, Mr. Speaker; but I am; Auditor in this year’: report and by subtracting one from the other l find that they have increased the public debt by $758,994. "But," my hon. friend guys, "look what we did; look at our assets." Well, I have already expressed my opinion with regard to the “assets? 1-Ie tnstanced gravelled roads; but I may remind him that he did not build the gravelled roads from that expenditure; he built them ou bor- rowed money. Not The Whole Story But that is not the whole story. amount that we did, according to the figures of their own auditors; but what of the rest of the story? 1t is indicated in the increase they had 1n their revenues during that period. era! subsidy increase of $125,000 and railway taxation $40,000, they got during their period of office a from gasoline tax and these other sources of revenue which we did not enjoy b0 the same extent, they re- ceived over $800,000. 1n all they received over $1,500,000 in revenue more than we ever got. We did get $80,000 in railway taxes; but dc- ducting that and adding the amount that they went behind in those years, we find that they went back to the tune of over two mil- lion dollars, altogether, during their term of office. And yet, as I said before, we do not know all the story, because we have not got all the indebtedness. We do not know what it amounted to. I mentioned one item not ac- counted for in the Public Accounts, namely, the McIntyre Highway. How many other accounts are there of this nature, from one end of the Provincento the other? My hon. friends talk about, what they have done. After all, what has this Province to show? We have this pile of road machinery; we have some culverts and bridges, but we had those before they ever attained not help us in any way to pay off our debt. If the debt of this Province ls paid off, let us hope and trust it wlll not be doncby the selling of this old historic building or even our gravelled roads. We realize clearly enough, that it will have to be paid off by the people of this Province. Whether the roads are worth a million dollars or a. hundred dollars, it will not help us to pay off the debt; so that all the time that has been taken up by my hon. friend ln giving these "assets" ls not worth a five-cent piece to the people of this Province. (Applause). A TEST OF SINCERITI power. Governments have been carrying on that kind of work for many years in this Province, not only concrete bridges and culverts, but more permanent structures. So there is nothing in that contention. A Sorry Record That, as it appears to me, is practically the whole situation with regard to the finances. Them is the record of this Government. They spent over two million dollars more ‘during their tenn than we did, either by borrowing money or from increased sources of revenue which we did not enjoy to the some ex- If my hon. friend really believed that those expenditures are "assets" why did he not include them as such in the Public Accounts? Last night. in the course of his speech, he held up a sheet‘ of paper, and said: "Here are the assets." His predecessor, a year ago. did the same thing. We do not know what was on that paper; we were not taken into his con- fidence to that extent. Perhaps there was ‘nothing on lt for all we know. But if my hon. friend believes that n at all that troulrl have increas- considcrnbly the amount as given. ut what do yvc find in the Ac- nts for i930? Here it is. in the n and hank, $148,137." - ' at a jump In one year from .997 to $148,137. Multiply seventy r by lvio and it gives us one hun- d fnrty-cight—-sti that, ac- cording to their own blue-books, the interest on lh_~ indebtedness of the PrloVltide has doubled in one year! Some "Fire"! Isn't that some "tire"! 1s It any wonder there la some "smoke"? ls it any wonder my hon, friends have been trying to "smother" it‘! The flcures 1 have quoted are from their own Public Accounts. What will the taxpayers of this Province think when they see that comparison? Thcrc was a member of this House with whom I had the honor to sit some Ybars ago. He never made very long speeches, 7.. but there‘ was one thing he useoj~z$ifteu the Bell Gov- ernment on runny occasions. That was, that "wheri there is Interest there is Debt." Aiiaaftgr all, there u o. m of mun in it; up apply that i < totbiscompurloiitioffliodobtoftha that is the prop-r method. why do they not take the taxpayers into their confidence and place those "as- tent: and yet my hon. friend will Isay that we "bought the people with ' their own money."—a most improper thing for a gentleman in his po- sition to say, because 1t is as far from the truth as it is , ible to be. . There is one thing that my hon. friend does not seem to understand. and that is that a. Government should keep its word to the electors. He does not know what that means. He knows this, however. that when we came in we promised to get 1n- creosed subsidy, and we told the people that if we got this increased sets" with their valuation In the ulnns which thm, q“, m... Inrrect. [Public Accounts so that we can all: I correct ..,",_.,,S, n" debenmms‘ nee m The mt that they u» not dol it lo the very best evidence that they do not believe in it themselves. It ls simply u piece of camouflage, simply an excuse put up to "get by" with on the Budget debate. I wish now to deal with the fig- ures given in the Public Accounts, and I do not think they will be dis- puted by my hon. friends. The leader of the Government gave one set of figures last night. That was the increase in debt during our time, from Sept. 1923 to Aug. 12, 1927. These figures are taken from the External Audit. My hon. friends seem to have been disgusted with the Poole and Scarth audit and they did away with the outside audit ul- together. However, the increase in public debt, roughly, was $413,000 under Conservative regime. INCREASE IN DEBT Now let us take their period from 1927 b0 _tl'le end of i930. I take the debt, us shown by their own auditors Messrs. Poole and earth u of Aug. 12. 1921, and I take the debt u shown by the Prflm ~.n' , . "Pmifiliflfitttiiifi Eff.‘ ' ' iloAonouutaklvioltbo-oguiruip subsidy we would give them some re- lief from taxation. And because we wanted to keep our promise we did it. (Applause) Let me tell my hon. friend that when he criticises us for that sort of thing he should begin to look at his own record within the lost few weeks. He should not talk about "buying the people" or catering to the people before on election, when he is giving consideration to u Tick- et of Leave Act, when he goes buck to Statute Labour and all thoee things that are so plainly an attempt on this Gwwmrnent’: part to buy the people-not even with their ovm money, but Just fooling them. I have already ‘iscusaed govern- mental housekeeping when I was dealing with the revenue and expen- diture. I think it is only fair, howev- er. that I should make a compari- son between the lut year that our government was 1n power and the post year, 1930, which will be lut full year under this Dlfllllnchtll’? term. In that respect the your: cor- respond to one another, and I shall take the classification of expendit- ures u they are shown in the Pub- ‘They went behind almost double the‘ In the first place, from the fed~| - partment. men‘ departmentfor the correspond- ing years. . STRIKING COMPARISON Int us begin first with the Admin- istration of Justice. In 1926 the ex- pendlture in this department w" 337.199. Last year it was $49.795.— . or an Increase of over 812,000. Why [that should be so 1 do not know. 1 i will venture the statement that there was not any better enforcement in mite of increased expenditure- Degflrflmenfi of Agriculture: In 192G the expenditure was 33.5.393- LIA! your 1t was 858.332. Of course, the Prime Minister will any that he did so much; but I do not think the people will stand behind him in that stateme ‘. Premier lieu: Does my hon. friend moan to say that that is for Agricul- y ture? - lion. Mr. Stewart: 1t is in Y0“! d9’ Premier bee: But n10’ hon. friend knows um we are paving for public total of $880,000 and according to my hum‘ that w“ not’ pa“ ‘at in m? calculation of whet they received; "Id m‘ "hwl “when” m‘ imp” ' ors. lion. Mr. Stewart: Where is he get- ting the money for school inspectors? Premier Lea: Well, we are Btfliihl; it out of the technical Brant. (Continuing amid further ruptions by the Premier, Mr. Stew- art insisted on his right to the floor. He had not interrupted the leader of the House when he was speaking tfilld he demanded the same court- l esy.) ,- Promler Lou: Your akin is tender. Hon. Mr. Stewart: Not 50 tthdel‘ as some of my friends‘. It l8 ml? l0 tender that I would spend an hour i in attacking u newspaper. (Apnlluofi- Department of Education: In 1926 the expenditure woo $180,869. limit lyear it was $306,890; mother i"- I crease. Public Works: We expended $122-- l539. Iflbli year-note this-the eitlmn‘ dlture was 8325.488. This ts an en- ormoua ‘increase, practically thrfl times the expenditure in 10M. I ' shall deal with this department lat/er. Faloonwood Hospital: We spent penditure was $136,278. Yet there were fewer patients lust W". ""1 there was no “t. a 9X: "‘ ure that I can see in looking over the Accounts. But there 1| an lncrelle of practically $0,000. Then we come to that item with which I have already dealt: Interest. It W98 $74,646 in 1921; last year it was $147,137. I need 8B0’ 1'10 m9" ‘m this subjoct; the flllllfl 51"“ V"! nluch louder than my words that I can use. Legislative Grants: This is not 8 large expenditure but. it is a niece where money can be 5119M W!‘ I?!“ elling expenses by gentlemen who like to travel around at the expense of the Government. The lesi-lll-llve grants in 1926 were 818,419; last yea: they were $80,478, or practically double. ' Auditor's Account Auditor: 1n our time the expendit- ure was $2.470. Last veer it was $4,582; almost double. ‘There is some- thing peculiar about that item to which I might dnw the attention of the House. I refer to Part 8, Clas- sification of expendituru. On page l2, under Audit Oflice, we read: "John Anderson, 81800: Wm. E. Mu- sey, $900." 50m reminded me that the latter gentleman, if he was of any value as on expert account- ant. was giving his services very cheaply; but on going carefully through the Accounts I found at the top of Page 11, among the Miscel- aneous items: “Salary. William E. Massey, 3750." I um not going to in- vite my hon. friends to interrupt me again; I know they will take vary little invitation in do that; but I um going to invite some of them who follow me to explain why those lt- ems were split up and one port o! the salary placed where they thought. nobody would see it. lion. Mr. LePage: 1t is not hid. It la right there. ' Hon. Mr. Stewart: I know it is there, but why put It whore no one would think of looking for it. That will be an excellent thing for my hon. friend to take up when he speaks. u I suppose he will at the earliest opportunity. There is another item to which I might cull attention. m expendit- ure on the hovirielul Building in: $5.3M in our time. Loot you ft was 80,024. That Just shows how the cost of everything has gone up under than gentlemen; how they have tu- orund even tbo smallest items tn ARLOTTETOWN GUAR ' ' ' ; - building. In connection with their ,__,____ _ ______...__ __..___. . .. _._i'_—'“_'-.:"' ""1::$.——____ A!‘ '“ "‘ ' I _ ._‘ W. Q‘ hoiugkggplng in ggygnggflgn with this this great spending department. I l-loavy link tin thou cues. I vmi looking W", the expenditure there h not anything from velvet pile carpet to lulurlom furnishing: of all kinds. lt ls paid for by the taxpayer: of the Province, so whet do they are? PUBLIC WORKS Now I come to the‘ ‘Public Works Department. If I were to designate myhon. friend the Minister of that department I would not refer to him. u his friends do so lervtlely on the other side of the House. as "the greatest Minister of Public Works that this Province has ever had." and ‘all that sort of thing. Instead, I ‘would have a tag put over his door with the inscription: "Wasting and Squundring here." lion. Mr. McIntyre: 0r, “abandon hope all ve who enterhere." lion. Mr. Stewart: ‘Ihut is not what my hon. friend says. ‘Ihat ls the trouble. If my hon. friend makes u speech like the reaches he delivered on other occasions in this House, he will go over every district and tell us what he did and how he gave them everything they wanted. That is why he is such a. ‘nice fellow! Ile has lots of money to spend, and If he hasn't got it he can always bor- row it. I llou. Mr. McIntyre: You did too. Hon. Mr. Stewart: Not to anything like the sune extent, and my Mn. friend knows it. The first thing that it ‘roduced our "big minister" to the people of this Province was a tele- phone order sent to St. John for the purchase of $100,000 of road machin- inter- . $106,579 in 1926. Lost year the ex- - ery. My hon. friend mode a bad start, because, as I pointed out before, he violated all precedent. lie almost {violated the law. He bought without ‘authority; but he tried to assure us at that time that he was saving this money because these road machines would be so economical in operation that they would be a saving in the end. Having made this big initial in- vestment. he sold. we would be able to so on without any great expen- diture, and the saving throughout the coming years would be evident as we went along. Costly Mach‘ y Let us see how true this state- ment was. The colt of repair! and spare parts of these road machines in 1928, the flnit year of their operotiou when they were practically new, was $12,028.49. In 1929 their cost was 824.2203. Lest year, their coat vvu practically $41,000. That was the mousy expended on thue “ Just for ‘- , and repair. It does not include the wages of the men employed on the machines, who carried on the work. My hon. friend says that we,were old fashioned, that our road system was antiquated, that we were doing the work with pick and shovel. I may remind him of the fact that we did introduce these machines. We did not make such u. plunge into expenditure but we began the use of them and. of course, in the past few years many improvements have been made in road machinery, However, there was one thing to be said in favor of the “pick and shovel." Many people have corn- plalned to me that they have teen roads lost year that were done with road machines and that could have been done with e horse and curt for half the money. It is one of the great troubles of this age that machines are doing so much that was formerly done by human labor. I um not speaking pn- llticully when 1 sly that that utufi ation has caused one of the greutestI problems we are facing in the civil- lzcd world today. Spending ‘flue Money n we turn w pig's ioa where the expenditures of the Public Works Department are summarized, wo find u total of liftoff-over half u null- llon dollars. And my hon. frleud has been spending that amount of money practically ever since he assumed of- fioe. He to spending more than the total revenue of the Province u" few years ego; and u. good deal of that money, u we ell know. in being bor- rowed. When ll it golul to Ill? It in all right for my lion. friend to talk in a theoretical way about hov- ing "saute": but they have not shownusthouaetuTheyuronot even using their own machinery properly, become in not one you uuolll They do not atop at anything- went to Pictou, Ottawa and. Regina. The bill was 3200. or course, he had o. peas; he had to pay no railway fore as we would have to do; that was Just his , l expenses. But lat year he went up to Quebec, and his ellmidlture there was something over 0200. Ill: deputy went with him and pold hi: cur fore, and lt did not out him that "much. Those are small matters, but after all they are in- dicative of my hon. friend's disposi- tion to spend extravaguntly. Road Grovelling We have never found any fault with our hon. friend's system of road g-rarelllng, but really I do not know where he stands with regard to that today, whether he intends to curry it on or to discontinue it. The lead- er of the Government denied having made o. certain ‘ tement attribut- ed to him with regard to this matter, but he has not wld us what his actual policy is for the future on this important question. There is another point in connec- tion with road gruvelllng as canted on by this Government which must not be lost sight of. lt ls all being done on borrowed money, and I urn afraid, Judging by the ‘vvuy in which the work has been done in many plueeu, that we have not hid vulue for that money. I tried to find out last year what check was kept‘ on this work; I was not able to get that information. I do not know whether I shall be able to get it this year. but I may tell my hon. friend that when the Estimates are being passed he will have to give us some more lucid information than we have so far received. I have been informed from residents in districts where that gravel is landed, that it has been landed in the most careless way. and that the check is not what it should be on this costly material. ' Well Chrlltelled ! We had o. prophecy last night frovn the leader of the Government with regard to continuing this new road tux-facing work that was begun last full on the Malpeque Rood- that mile which is called the Mem- tyre Highway. According to the cost of it, it has been well christened. We would know who built it, whether it in celled the McIntyre Highway or not; for it colt 956,797. (Applause). Now Mr. Speaker, 1 put it to you in all fairness: Can this Province af- ford to build mods at the rate of over lztiflwarnlle? That is l. question which the people of this Province will ‘ very ‘ ‘, when they are asked to indorse the policy of tho udmlnlatrutlon umv in power. lion. Mr. McIntyre: You built clay roads costing $8,000. Hon. Mr. Stewart: My hon. friend is bubbling ovevtoo. I hope he doesn't bubble too much-he la a llt- tle large, you kumv. (Laughter). It may have cost us $3.000 l. mile to build roads in some places; but I a-m not talking about that now. I am talking about their work. That is what is under review. 1f we bud any political sllla we have answered for them. My hon. friend has not yet answered for his, but he had better look out; the Judgment day is com- ing, and coming soon! (Applause). That mile of road. christened so appropriately the McIntyre High- way, cost, as I have said, over $28,- 000. The Premier tried lust night to make excuses about the weather con- ditions when thut road was built. But if I remember correctly, Decem- ber last was a. beautiful month. 1 think the weather treated him much better than the people will do this summer! (Applause). Still in “ExperlmeutaP Btlge At any rate, as the membe from the First District of Prince (Mr. Gordon) sold very properly, the road has not yet been tmted. The Prem- ier contradicts that statement. It is o. matter for my hon. friends to settle between them; but I mighti point out that the Premier's excuses who very lame. He sold the snow- plmigh went over the road and kept it clear, no that the frost got at it and it had a. ornplete tut in that way. Now I happened to be over that stretch of road in the month of Junu y, when we had the coldest weather ofrtbo season. 1 Just wont u little beyond the edge of that fold andlmaytellthlaliountherowu have they had than machines on theroudslntbe Efllnl, Vhon they oouldhuvednuothtworkirlepro- permonuunnoylfitltnohtolu the leuou Iotdo the workhulfuwollolllfieyhadgot outtu tbuprtugaifiey olieuldluve lone. » . ihmilanotheruiettnthotfp going to mention. beoeulo, to my mind, ltisaotrlwjbowkiltbowoy thewlndblownltlhflwlflludllpbe no evidence of u snow-plough being over it. Tho rood was ‘covered with u heavy fall of mob, lo much l0 that youomitdbudlydriveotoumonit. 5E2? é 5 refer to a matter tn connection withi his travelling expenses. I noticed an] item in his expenses in 1928 when he, names of these convicteq We what happens to the still at liberty, and I notic streets of this city under sever-odious my own district. and weather conditions-streets with c. know- that person l| heavy foundation of stone and a] Liberal worker in that pg" o, ‘h thick llyer_of cement and asphalt. villi-Ir! So for as that case is cone What is going to happen in the lovmed. I ImOW Personally wheres; country. where the road to oom- FUNK. pletely exposed throughout a severe My hon. friend spoke last nigh; m winter? The risk, Mr. Speaker, lsvtno Education. I shall not deal with um grout to accept, when one considers question at this lute hour, a5 1 in“, the enormous expenditure entailed. "ill "m! 0f my colleague; who follow-mo are well acquainted the sublcct and will deal with i, adequately. PP-roon; Ed one do u" llrinclm 1.33 PBOIIIBITION ENFORCEMENT There is another mutter about which the leader of the Government was invited to speak lastnlght, and upon which I shall say a few words. That is the question of the ‘ ment of the Prohibition Act. The whole question which hoes the poo- ple now is this: Bu this Govern- ment, during its tenure of office, kept m pledge!’ u. u» people with regard to the wfvroemont of the Act? Have we had enforcement ruoh u we should expect from thll Gov- ernment ufter the pledges mule at the lust election? The people will be prepared to answer that queltlon when the time comes, but we on this side of the Home feel very ltrongly that they have not done so; and we have evidence to‘ that effect on all sides. (mud applause), It is perfectly true that they made amendments to the Act. Whether those-amendments were of any as- sistance or not is another question. The leader of the Government said last night that the promises they made have been kept. Well. his plat? form sets forth that they were to ap- point three Prohibition Magistrates, one for ouch county. Apparently they were nble to get along with one; but they cannot have effected it complete enforcement of the law because we have had more evidence of the use of liquor during their regime than we have had for very many years In this Province. 1 saw recently in their own party newspaper, published in Summerslde an account of a most disreputable incident, in which a woman who was thought t» have fainted picked up on the street. She was found to he helplessly drunk. That incident was reported iu the Pioneer. Then we have had these highway robberies-cases of young men rob- bing othors of rum and being sent up to the Supreme Court. These are in- cidents fresh in mind. Look at the car accidents ‘ by drunken dri- vers, that have never been attended to. All these things go to show tho failure of the Prohibition enforce- Teeeher!’ ilrflnliir Neglected I mightxefor, however to the pm miei-‘e statement with mum to teachers’. training, 1 gtfl] malnmn that they have not filled the vaegmiy "W"! by tho resignation 0g m, Lbydl Show from Hill; depm-gmmt T118? but up the excuse that“; Show comes. for u few weeks, am,- htl own work is done, to give them g little usela‘ . But what. dog; that amount to? Compared with he was doing formerly it is at all. , Did my hon. friend tell you that they mode any ettenmt to n11 that vacancy? Not one word. Today u" teachers’ trlinlnt at Prince of Wm, College amounts practically u. 119th, lng, because Mr. Show, while he w" there", was the whole Support l“ back-bone of that work, and nobody has taken his place. My hon. friend went back i“; evening to the Technical School. I have dealtwith that question so oft. en that I do not pwmso to wam the time of the House in threshing any more old straw in that connec- tlon. nothing patron SANATORIUM nectlon with the Dalton Sanatorium, to which he referred. He stated 1m night that I have never taken any part in that controversy. Well, it is not because I do not agree with what has been said from this side of the House, because I certainly do think that they neglected a wonderful opportunity at the time that insti. tution was handed back to this Pro- vince. I soy there was o claim there, I might quote from my hon. friend's own speech as published in The Pat- riot newspaper, in whichrhe cites the agreement that was mode between the Province and the federal author- ities, and which contains this im- portant provision; "And shall return the some or property in substitution thereof at the w..." There was mother nutter, in ma- merit that we have had. Yet this ls the platform that elected my hon. friends to power. Having climbed up the end of the slid term in as good condition u they received the same from the board, reasonable wear and tear excepted." the ladder on the tsse of prohibi- tion enforcement, they have simply kicked the ladder uwuy and forgot- ten about it. That is the situation. Established Foundation That provision in the agreement, Mr. Speaker, establishes the founda- tion for u claim. Election Tactics Premier Loo: They never admitted it. Hon. Mr. Stewart: That in a poor and flimsy oxeun. The Dalton Snu- ‘ -‘ woe handed over to them ou that agreement, that they were to give it buck lu the some condition cs they received it, rulsonuble wen- and tear excepted. Did they do that? They destroyed the conformity of it. so that it Wu absolutely II-leles! for our purposes. Legally there is clelr ground for damages in u Court. right there! (Applause). But the trouble woe that they delayed reins wit" that claim. They simply dcllled with the matter. According to my hon. friend's own statement last night, there was 501119 mention of money, of cash compen- sation, at the conference he attend- ed at Ottawa in 1021 which wfls PW‘ sided over by the Hon. Mr. Mccur- dy, Federal Minister of Public Works The Provincial ‘elogati-u returned- The Premier says he was not able to deal with that mutter without thl consent nf his Government. 0| course, I om not blamtnll hi!" m’ that if he went up without any Pf°' per authority; but the matter should have been followed up. 1t who"!!! have been pressed lmmedlutcly- In‘ stead. my hon, friend has not-hill! to show but some corrwlwndem‘ between somebody here and 8 (Wm, minister at Ottawa. We do" not hear of any prosecu- tions now. For some "reason or other they have ceased. Apparently the Prohibition Commission is out of business, so far as prosecuting is concerned. Their work is turned over to another body. How ll it that we stlll hear of druulreuneu, and yet the prosecutions seem to have prac- tically stopped? I wonder is this of u piece with the introduction of um Ticket of Leave Act? ll it along the some line of policy? . We heard some boosting lost night about this Government's attitude with respect to pardoning prisoners in the jails. Apparently they are tired of the system they adopted and they are now going to take another short cut-they are ‘going to go behind the Governor altogether and do the pur- doning themselves under this Ticket of Leave Act. wewere blamed for allowing the Governor to pardon the prisoners, u. practice that had been customary in this Province for siev- eral years. I am not blaming them for changing the practice, but they should look into their own practice before they criticise us. » UNPUNISI-IED OFFENDER-S In answer to a question on the order paper there was tabled on the floor of this House a statement by the Prohibition Commission. And what do we find from that state- ment? That there were fifty-three prohlbltlou ofleuden convicted loot your who are utlll at liberty, uguluat whom the penalty of the law woo never enforced. In addition, that were ten listed as "aboconding." Those P0110110 left the Province without serving their sentences: but the others, the fifty-three to whom 1 referred, are not tinted u “ab- sooudlng" and the penalty, presum- ably. can ltlll be enforced. Now which la better-to put a man in Jolt and have the Lieutenant Governor plr- "u" don him, or to pay no attention at which my hon. friend, the pr “a all m u» law and m the convicted lender of the 5""- ""' Tm’ person go at large? That la tho'lud Minister of Alflflmm" m: Grout ovmrtvlllti’ 1 maintain that with that roundl- tlon for u claim the Bell Govt?" maul. if it he'd been alive. t" l“ °l" portuulty, would have uni some 0|" fully authorized to Ottawa t0 “m” elm um transaction. rm It m" have been completed. A claim 0' m" kind would not have may film’ gurded at Ottawa if it hell "l" properly |- entoi. We in" m; Government n om" well "will. for that. That ll whore th: II" u Iflloo lllll the fllluro come III ‘L. the part of the Governfllfl" ,,,.-z IttIOBOIbIIMI-flflendtllhfldd c 2.022.245“ damn-nus... “If qgieutlon. (Loud applause). ' 1 wonder m: pm pour“ played (Continued on W" i”