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"1 //////I  PERMANEN WORKS ' ' “ revenue and lia_bili_tie_s; one Govemment, with a spialler rev_enut_:i
 INVESTM  , If they found all these steel bndges erected when theyassum- decreasing the liabilities by practically $I_oo,ooo iii our years, an
Q _1»_ "El ed office, what have they done to continue pemianent public work the other, with a larger revenue, increasnig the lmbdigies. __
_g 1; 7_3/J  ' 1-  throughout their total term? For permanent works throughout ‘ _Now there |s the matter o_f~interést._ I remem er w en my
‘ . _ _ ' ' ' , ""`$ _ their term of ofice they liaw spent the magnificent! sum Of $331383l lion. fnend mis in Opposition, this was one of his _stock arguments
 f _oaks 0 :_:_'._'.:.'.‘:.tt‘1Z"12.::;;../ ‘ " (Laughte,-_) 1,, |920 they spent $35,400; in 1921, $26,600; and to show that the liabilities of the province _had increased. My
._ ,5‘.'_' p, U IZI.`.".'l'-.;.`I`:.':':::i"~'/' »‘"-:itiJ.':.'.'.': . in 1922, $1,883. As against this, in three years of Conservative hen. friend from Second Prince also _used this argument frequent-
”   g~_;3;;-gg;-fi-`-'-i'ff.. `12ZZ".I"-`-i rule, between 1912 and 1915 we spent over $111,000 on steel ly, that if the interest increased the liabilities must have increased
‘_ i d _   ` bridges alone, besides other prrniaiii-iit works, mnd with t'wo`_liun-|also. But this_does not seein s_a good _today_. A greal_ deal de-
.  -'.'.'.Z“..IZ'..2Z‘22Z1‘.'.1_ -'.'.': ;`;55.' drcd tlioitsand dollars a year less taxes. And yet my hon. friends ponds upon wliirli foot thi’ boot is on! The interest has increased
b ' - , .   .1111 stand up and sin-inpi in it~11 the people new they found the $io,ooo since ihey came in. and yet. according to my hon- friends
 \il`\  1? I/ Public works in a disgraceful condition. and what great things there is not more i`ndrbtt'dm'ss! .
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' “--'~~'_";;- 'i _"_'¢/.1 they Iiave done to remedy it. '
  ""°""i"""" \i§ \  ' And 'ivliat linw tlii‘_\' iliini‘." \Ve know that steel bridgffs ,
will deteriorate if not ,looked after. We know the effect rust will _ - _ _ _ _ ~ _ ` , F
.1 E have on tlieiii. A few days ago we placed on the order paper the Let us exaiiiiiie this matter of increase 11111 the interest dur- Nl <
` “ question: "How many of these bridges have been painted?" The ing their teriii of office. This increase of $l0.000 d0`¢S 110! _ll1Cl\|d¢
5/ iaiiswer was ont' bridg/1' /wiiiilvd 'l`hat, we were told.. was the the interest on the $500,000 l10}`f0W°d for l“g`hW3,YS Of the |“f@|'€5l
. T'  I l.\loni:1gi1e bridge. I liappi-in-il to lit- down there on the day of the on the highways overdraft during the year,_ because both these lat-
- e mine .iiid the uert liiisil eii a ed on it then--
lt sctnis that if they tainiot use .1 bridge lluit wav, those bridges
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' (9°“"““@d f""“‘ Img* 7') “___ _,__ __ the aiddiiioiial revenue was scciireil, not from taxes but from the of the _v_oar,1iiln~ii it would iiicrcase gradually as they fiaid out the
NA'f“"”““""""""`* """"` i"_""°T“ pi'eseiitiitioii :pid ailjiisiiiiciit of our cl:iiii1s at tittawa. Here is nionc_v.`
._ ‘d~ l, for th, bop wliat iny hon friend the l’rciiiicr said in 1919 when he was lead- It would be rc:1soi1:i'ble to suggest that the overdraft would
_le House' In 1920 ‘hey passed an ‘i Cl prow ii L' A ` th 'O osit`oii~ _ li r t st ‘ ilii ffill of the 'car before th r ~ fr the
N0 >\\'in of money and the funding of thc autoiiiobile taxes_for the_‘"g ” PP » __1__ 1 _ _ __ _ C g ‘fa E- "I ‘ ~ I 1 C CVUIUC 0'”
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A 'lrpose of raising the money to carry on this scliciiic. .\t>\\ Ihr
W" ‘solution to which I refer led up to thc .»\ci and eiiiliodics the
mvblitv of the rt as well as the Act
thlflod  Sectioii)a4 ,bf that rc-solution ispecifically states tlia_t_ the
train is to be devoted to lofi'-lyi'ng and maint/i_\' roads und ruI1'i‘rt.r.
This is exactly what we have been zidviiczitiiig right along.
the policy upon which they passed the _f\ct and in dcpartiiig
it they arc siniply wolatuig tlicir own law. lhc policy on
they borrowed the money runs to build up //ir low-lying roads
constriic-t ciilfl/arts, and this s_\1sti~u1 tliry s_liouId liiiw _carried
i' tliry were in duty bound to do, bccntisc it was on this prin-
that they gave tlieiiisclws tlii' f>o1ut~r to borron' the nioiiey iii
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In-<11 rrn1:iin in power. have been
. _  / I twill be nllowi-il to rust niitiltli1~\~fu!l into tlir' strciim. alleged increase iii the debt inade by the Conservative party. I
""7"'°'°" I/ /' ‘ 7 A .\'IlC.\'ll%l§R: That liridgi- was iii thc (`:irdigai1 district. have already shown to what extent the late Conservative Govern-
pmtlt ln your Investment MR. S'l`l".VV.‘\R'l`: Will iiiy hon. friend tell ine that the peo- ment iiicreased tlic liabilities of this Province, to the amount ‘of
'M V°“' °“"’ "‘“‘“°°° by SEND your Mme md address now; ple who were painting ii belonged to the Cardigan district? (Laugh- $77,000. The interest on that amount in round nuiitbers would
' _ ‘md W' ‘”‘“ f°"‘”‘“d Y°“ °°°W~ 119|-_) be atbqui $_;_500_ It would leave over $5,000`of an iiicrcqse still
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Semlrltles Corporation,  ' l..4."\"l7 CL/llill.S` At1`.‘lllV.$`7` DOMINION. of interest on tlie.AtI:is debentures; that he says accounts for an
1uu.ir.\x ni-nneii oats.. ci-iiuu.o1-ri:'rowN Resfsienmiv-1 increase of $1,000. H1- still luis $4,000 of an increase to account
R°’“m‘"“ B“"'"°° A "G§'1:f,g'§,f,’,'2°w§'°°' I Tliere is another iiizitter to wliicli I referred before, and it for.. He gives an explaiiritioii of _thatr let us see where this leads
11.wi1111i,=¢,. va11¢1»n1»1.N.»» rem-Lenann lis rather a disappoiiitiiig siiljjeci. ‘li is very disappointiiig to the him. lie says: “We were carrying on a' large expendittire; we
ieoile of this iroviiicc, .ind th.it is ilu wav in which the claims
‘ _____ of ilie province have bccii Iizuidlcd by this (iovernmeiit. I amidraft, and the iiitcrcst was on this overdraft with the bank." l`liis
 ' ' M 'rw t S  not going back into Iiistory. \/\"c all reiiiciiibcr what was done 'by overdraft at the bank on which that interest was paid, was for ctir-
fmrn ~ -  In 3  wen lme the predecessors of this (iovcrnnieiit. lint their successful efforts rent and ordiiiziry expeiiditurc. They had a surplus last year,l
iii this respcct found no credit iii the eyes of my hon. friends. Yet
llie deligaiioii of whiili Irciiiier Arsciiaiilt was
a iiienibcr had prcseittcd :i clziiiii for $200,000. They ob-
tained $100,000 witlioiil liriviiig rczilizcd :1 single claim.
\\'liai about the $100,000 or bzilaiicc? 'I`hc clainis present-
cd had not rcprcsinitcil thc major part of our claims against
(`aiia<la~\ve were given $100,000 on account. Why lias`
thc Go1'rriiiiif'nt not /‘imisrd for the balnncr of it? The
Prciiiier may have said that when he was in Ottawa it
was not the proper time to press these claims. That might
bc truc if the war was on, but the war is over-We are in
the days of rccoiisfrur/i`oii1. Il/c' not/or had a better chance
to enforce our clniiiis than at f>rt'sciit.”
This statement \\.is iiizirlt .1 few nioiiths bt-fore the resent
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N" f"5,I.£ ace. th h Se of this _uestion to which I wish to Prciiiicr _crime into office. \\_'l1at happened to that -w¢m¢1¢;rfi¢_l__0ver-run; when the Arsenault Goveniment expended more than
.\`l~cn I read the Spccsh from the 'I`hro1ie I gathered that
ii..g;it have some concrete remedy this year; that some legisla-
»i~ iiiight be introduced leading to rcpnir of ilicsc roads on which
much of the pc0ple’s money had been spcnt. lint I find now
~ -that nothing is going to be done. \/Vliat story, what excuse, was
made by my hoii. friend in his Budget spi-ccli? llc said /if did
fkiiow 'wlitat thc D1‘fia.rtiii1cnt is gfiiiig to do. Apparently he
d not know whether a/nytliing was to be done to keep up these
'roads or not. He says: "\\'e_are going to l§XI’l",RII\IF.N'I` on
them.” ls not tliis 11 fine time In roiiiiiirnri' v.rf1ivriitii'iits, iiftcr
csc roads are going to rn1`n."' lil/'l` ll IS /I SP1./:`iVUll)`
' IME TO l?.\'PI:`l\’lME.V'I` ON 'I`lll;` lil/'li Ol" AN l:`Ll5C-
ON, and l h.a'z'v no doubt tlin/ tlirrc roi'/I lic tlioi1.mnd.r of dollars
cnt on "¢'xperiniciit.r" during ilu- coming election campaign
While my hon. friends have been paying so much attention
the construction of these lligliways, what has become of the
wiiiary public roads of this ,l’roviiic<-? I was very much snr-
pii 1:/I that the Commissioner of Public Works in speakiiig on the
i 1!" Address dealt with practically cvcry subject under the sun
rft his own De/iiirtiiiciit. llc indulged in considerable
pi'»»i»hcsying. He discussed everything from fisliiiig to thi- radio
irsume that he will get closer to his own liusiness licforc this dc
is over. He has spoken of “fishing for dilapidrited bridges"
'fl :if what luck he had in the fisliing. \\`h:1t nizigiiificciit luck
uonld have had if he had gone fishing in 1911 when his own
pr-"i_\ went out of power! I \_v_onder did lic-_find that between 19i1__ _ _ _ _ _ . . . . _
_"___ _,”9_ 2_5,” feet of magnlhccnt Steel b_ndg,_S were Cm______uct,,d_1o\_\ liiy coii1p.ire_i_i1_rcg:1rd to liailiili-ties. _How did they reduce
In ilu' (fbnservatives, at a cost of $111,000, aiid all paid fm- out Umor i1icreas_c the Itablilities durn1g_tI1eir_ respective terms? Iii t/ic four
1.112111-i::il_l’evenue, without borrouiiiig or,iiicrr'fisiii_q t_nx¢°.i‘._’ I u'oiider_~l_'i""`° "ll f’ WIS /lf’ (Wi-t1’f1'1it11'r' (tot/rmiiiient ri-dur:-_d t/ie liabil-
ilul lie lmd any of those bridges when he wciit fishing? I`he people ' "bl l”"""°" J' $l00-°°°~~~ ll hal "l’”"l mf’ /""`~‘f"l (101'l"`i'1tti¢’tIf?
uill ivll him of the way in which the (ioveriinieiit has nt-glectcdl
1l~1~ l1» iifiiids of this Province, notwithstandiiig that they have liadi A CO-llP*»4Rl5`ON IN Ll-43/1./7`lliS
}i.'i\.1nJ more ordinary revenue to devote to the ordinary roads _ 
'1'111/ /1.r:'»» /lirv dom- toiwrds the care of /he ordinary roads? Wclffl 'IN' Eff’-‘S llilll-"||l1<'S 'O ll? $l14431(135. lint we will be fair and The iicxt thing that they promigetl to 1|() was (0 pres., our
05° fllf U“C0ll€Cf¢‘<l revenue. as we did in making the other claims at Ottawa. I have already dealt with that I .think the
will dedllcl lh\S f1m0\l_f1l. $731800, _leay-1pc_opIe of this Province will be cognizant of how well tliesc gentle-
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crdril by the amount of taxes they have levied on
condition they have been in and will be iii
s ano ei' a
era" . h P <d~_ of _hel`i\_ er Cen, ,O Carry on o/‘1/iurtuiii/\' of />rcs.iiiiq our clniiiis’ \‘\ll1at became of it? It was tthey were autliorizcd by the law which they had themselves made.
 __::_1_ict nu; h0e___px;-G_)_?eIn;'1i iw L__:__1_____ gfpthe (-_0‘,,__rmm_m haslgoiic coiiiplctely out of sight [ivforc my lion, friend got to his seat! I_Find in Sc-ptcnibcr, 1919, according to their own figures, that thc
 H moét remarkable atmmte 1,1. img l,,¢m|,,.(| loudly and longltlgiiigliter.) lhat was over three years ago, and we have rezicl1ed.(»0liscrvativcs had spctli $567000 ln YOUUCI lilllilbcrs. What Were
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 . _ ,ms highways 5chemc_ emmhng the CmNrm.uO“ of these rOads__;_lic period |_>;_1ctica_l_ly_ of_anot_licr rlcc_ticiii_,_1iii_d_ .tlia-I lii1s_lic done to _t_l_t_e tot il_esti_iii_.pc___.~__'_i§ shown l_i_y_'_tlie__Idul>_Iic Accounts _for__tl1at _yearff`__h__ ws! was __ lmle less than $2O_0OO_ and Inq yean dojo" know
 ~ 'f F0-if ffl? lf'-"l’“.\'¢"'5 Of "IIS P""7'l""}` "ll" "°""l- ll” ‘S ‘l‘3k‘i(::if;}‘__i_"_‘]i;__r   1‘{_f`_i_;3'1i{'_f)_”_I__"W_: _ "_ ffl” l'i°"»°__;h'5 ffriftllat ej_°t{e_‘_‘;;_l;" _l_::_"_ _“.3 ) f d' _gli 1 H; ‘.""r`(1mm"-(/‘I Inu” what it wus? It it-ns just ti little loss t/inn $30,000,111 olitcr w0rds,, '
“ ` " "b‘°0l"l¢'l3' ff” fllff Ol f”"~“’ 45° ""[“`l “f Mud ,O Nw NDN0ili'is ii"iciic'1ll\' adii1i`tt‘l1i1/il filly'-O A liliiblhop-pm y ulybilli he found th t it iilitiiliii ‘mf Yfzfcgorimg -to Ulu- mllil Smumem theyllllcy CU! <lU“'" U10 Sill-'4flCS by i`iicri‘aSit1U ffm" l'ff3l l"»"' f""'~
brofpiiire. \\~¢ shall \\'al<_e up sonic day. he tells us. and __;_.___|____ (___: ____ _________  _____i_______i_i_iifi_;__ __ __ _i _.\i_nt _outdt ic _iacc________ ___ __;1C  ___ ___o__ ith  ¢_ptij11:_)cr. __ ipy knew the l.i\v_(Lm_gh_e___)
li Wm all bc wmmwwd WINIUHI U (mt of mi, [0 mf How His ffiriids linw df‘st‘rlr'1l him 'A 'l`l1'll’/ri W hu X lm ull/ a mm' llffiiditiirc illllio tiioilatcdiill il " 'U QA" Ima F tu mnnmd mi-i USELESS OFFICIALS i
_ ___de__ful _hmg brought to 131,85; 1;,w,,,_,, iw ,J f,,,,d,,,g ,tw __________ ________ __________c__ ___ _____________ ______ __i__ ___ ¢_°_i_i_ii_t_;__ jf; __¢_;__i€_r__5r_z_J_;i_ . ____ __O__ ___e____ ___ ___Si¢'__E;_tg.e§  __a__ __ _ _ I ~ I renieniber on :inoilu-r otmsioii wlien thi was brought tip
-*"5 f"°’5»' ‘ ` .L -` `. 1 " ` ~ ` “ .’ . ` ~ ' ` ' ` i . ‘ le It `° r.y'tl:t tl - ' I ' for \\"c-sl l‘i\'cr. that cliiv' ous and redoulit-
1!iis was what he HAS BIiI‘1I\` 'telling us, but riow what'f_i:;;;f1f__€i_Zi__h11ii.i%j_, ______\i_jil_\\'_l_i_'.i_i__<li>_g_=;_ it zpijiouiit to,_all_tli_is tcr.r1lilc;?l;1_f_<°__l”:_1_§'_1_t_t_ :\_i_li rc_fc_rcn_c5 _Q t_he_fi___g_u;cs he cites. I-Ie _says that hisl__‘])|l___  _Hom (__ \|,__ Hughes) _ ne to me resale
121-1. _:ir-? Iii delivering his liudgct spepcli, wliat docs hc g1\'c_ ‘ _ "' _ _‘ "‘ ‘I ‘"'l’ ‘ _» ~\U ffl' ll* flff f0""¢'-"j -_’ U M* ‘(‘ “CL He lm C C "ess °f me Pmvmcc bl’ P7351 f t|`. (ju .mm .ln and Said; “()U|{ (,f|`|L-{;|\_e 3 dging 5gme1_hing_-
__ __ _ ,___ ________0__S for _“______1_i__g~_h__ ___\;_____; ..\\1h__ 11 he _aid /ioiiilrtice triblcd in this Hou.-ri' sliorixs, to ii1ti‘re.st his friciids I/ie`f'Cilll)’ $001900- llc SUYS thi" ‘hc ddllli when HWY Callie I" ‘V35i"j‘1 K ,I viV0,| itnn" 1 “ill _JK ,Un -ln i 11 how they 'Mg
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__ __ _ __ ______c _‘___ num h________Q _CC_ _ml uf _‘___ __C\___m___ _,md _U _Lilimal _rtfirrii ii/nt_i1_1s of_t/1i_s_/io1o_ic_i aI_ O/ti11ta._ll_cl1tis \v1'itteii_$l1l9_3,88>_ llc gtistliat _from the _report of thc _Public Auditor. , _|_- ___ j __]_../ -_-11', _» in (I - uiiilter of /wvflle -*Wil
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' INCREASE of INTEREST 1
ter items of interest are charged iii the highways account in the
by el ciioii last su r' y ' f ~ y H'g ` -` _ ` _ _
1 '/ iliev were like 'bees all around that bridge 011 election day (Laugh- Putblic Aiccoiiiits, which are kept entirely separate from the ordin-
Vf I iterfi'l`liot if thi' rvosoii ruliy lnr liridgr 'mis fiaiiifcdg because it hap- ary expeiidiliirw.. This increase Of $101000 U16" iS 811 1:"fff-’0~90 0"
I l{ii‘nud to lu' in thc di'stri`i'l 'zuliuri' t/ii-ri' runs tm rlcrtioii. (I.augI1ter.) tht' ordinary interest account. The header of the Government
gave us as one of his excuses for this increase of interest the
to be accounted for Ile has mentioned an increase in the rate
had to pay the tcacliers larger salariesi we had to have an over-
and tlirreforo t/my would not luwc mi overdraft until the beginning
taxes crime iii,-we will say abou-t September. Supposing it had
run for six iiioiiihs, and the interest is $4,000. What amount of
overdraft would bc required to give $4,000 interest? My hon.
friends can figure that out. Tlicy talk about the $253,000 liabili-
ties that they found in September, 1919. I 'would likc to svc t/ic
row/eiiiio and r.i'/triizlitiiro and overdraft last Sc/itcmbor -if tlicvlirid
to [ray that iiiiirli iiilcrcstl I would inilcrd like to see wliot if
tiias.
Thcrc was another stock argument advaiiced, I think by
the hon. Coiiiniissioiicr of Agriculture, and it is being passed around
like the story of the Iiuiidrcd vacant schools, from one geiitlcnian
to another: and that is the “exceeding of the estimates,” -- this
terrible violitioii of the law in 1919 when the I`stii1iates were
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` ' ' ' it - Conservatives _some credit for getting mus-
l ';l`eg“(th;i_§;,v;,;:t(; “Y_qu did not go far enough." The Pre-
se_-ntll .O _osition uns very enthusiastic over this matter qid wc
__i;;0___p1______ 3 spin limi was io'be tbuilt ‘to Richmond Bay so
as to get the iiinil iii :i_bund:ince for everyibfjdy. It
f,.;m|r¢~1t in the .Speech i from the '_ hroiie last
was We ex _,_c",| to have that mud right away,
yeajr' 1 1.111-d toiliagc ri report of the work done. _~,_ We found
ifiiriiiiiifilitiiiretiiriis tabled that ii .iitriiay lind_ been made when Mr.
_,MMS A MFA-',',, 1,10; (‘1niiiiiis.ii1»iii°r of_Pnb_1ic Works and we fou_iid
__ letter or two w;}ff¢»n‘ to lloii. Mr. Sinclair and some of_ the m_iri-
isters at Ottawa. _ 'l`/uit it/as the c.t'tetit_of their eforts in getting
tiiiissrl-mud 0141*' 0l I‘)l"l"""""l Ba'-V durmg me Pl“'.mree -Wars'
Now that tlieelectioii is a little nearer they are beginning to feature
thi.; again fiffli we are given sonic vague statement about some
,eport thai has ibeen sein to_Ottz1w:i. ’l` he I-‘remicr_does not ap-
_ear to have Seen ,___ /1 ,night bt' ti rc/iort coiid_eimm1ig the whole
l__.j",,m, fa, up /,(1 k,m1.1_il ~ We were led to b_elieve that a report
is being piade to Ot-taivzi, and this is just what it is-A _vague sug-
,]_,_Y,j,,,, QU mf,-1, me jinlilic cur, like the promises ma_de _in 1919 be-
fore the election-to inakc the revenue and €Xl’@“dl1lUf'3 meel a_n<l
to get' Sufiieiem funds from Ottawa to pay the teachers their in-‘
cniwe Elrjhbdiiliiiisjiroiiiisc iiifide was to reduce the cost of the man-
___,cm,_m at pnjcomvoutl llospital. llow have they succeeded in
diiiiig this? In 19181 IIN? li\»"l fllll )l"7“' We “fem "I power’ the cost
of iiiaiiiteiiaiicc was ~‘53<_)17"l1 mill I" l‘)2I_~ If was $l_~I9'00°' mld
this last year it was over $|001000~ Tlllf' I5 |_"~’d\_lC"\§ “f’u’“_"d-*__
(L:iiigliter.) To find out just what this so-called reduction
was,_put the fbig number on top and subtract ithe other! 'flhis is
'ust of a iicce with the other proniises inadc It is the way another
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'of the planks of their plutforiii was inipleiiiciited-by iticreasiiig
the cost where they proniiscd to rcdtice it.
The next promise made was thc dismissal of fuseless of-
ficials." ‘ i
HON. MR. LEA: “Liselessiaiid unnecessary public of’fi~
cizils." '
'It/IR. STIZWART: < I aiu just coming to that. I am going
om to that in a wa that ou will en`oy very much (Laughter
to c c Y )' J _ ~ _ _
|:iiid applause.) At that time the cost Of paylflg the UHICIHIS Ill
this building alone-and when I ani speaking of these officials I
ani not referring to the heads of departmeiits or to the increased _
liiideinnities pf members of this Iloiisc-but to the actual officials
iwitliiii these four walls. In 1918, last yczir \\'e‘wCre in power,
i few fi 1endl\ lcttcrs to liis ii -ighbors iii \i-w llruiiswick 'ind Nova Of th-it vcar l’ut lit docs not take into coiisidcratioii flint lie l1at]i“'" "H “‘ “ ll ‘IW \ "I “‘ ll 'I
ttawu. or .roiiiv'a»li1'rc, to press these claims. VVe have liad three
and it half years of opportunity for thc sending of delegations but
. ~ 1 I . ,
up u_i1t1l thc present nothing except one solitary pilgrimage, made
by himself, wlicii he weiidcd his wziy to llzilifax (l_.:111gliter.) We
ldoiit know what was the result of that pilgrimage; we have never
thad :1 report of it. What can the people expect iii the future,
after all tlicsc elaborate iroiiiiscs? .» cr `~ ' ' ` '
_ _ _ _ l_ 1 all his criticisms while
in tlppositioii my lion. frit-iid lias had an opportunity for a whole
lspaii lictwccii two clcctioiis, niid if lii~ comes lback now aiiid admits
ifai_liirc, to/ui-1 _.un tho jivufilt- 0.1:/1,._._ for _/___ f_____r,,_ if /jc has any.
flung to do with I/ii' iiiiittrrf
I do not care to refer too much to figures. 'l`hey are ratlicr
_a_ dry subject, but tlicrc are just :1 _few coinparisoiis which I would
`l1kc to make, In-cziiise iiiy hon. friends have boasted that they are
thc grezitirst tiogieriiiiu-iit this l’rovince has ever sccn~ that the
Ilell tiovcriiiiieiit will go dowii iii historv as thc l’cci'les’s I<`iii'11ici-
ers. (l.:i1iglitci'); the \\'oiidci'fi1l .\I:iiufgcrs; absolutely without
P2U'fll_l<”l III 0_V€‘l’y r_L’_sp_<“t‘t_! I :nn going to compare some corres_
pondiiig periods. lh_is tiovcrnniciit has practically reaclit-d the 1,-nd
of its four-ycar session. Iii 1915 the Coiiscrvativcs had reached
_thc und of tiicir first foiir-yi-ar term, and they came in under sonic-
lwhat siiiiilar circiiiiistaiiccs. During I/iosc four years the Conserv/_
otitic (1`o1/vriiiiiviil liad nn nt/erin/U ret/ciiiig of $544000
_ - . .
During the corrcspoiidiiig years of this (joveriiiiieiit thc
haid an average rcvciiuc of $852,000. Almost driuhlc thi- 'iniotiiitii
over $300,000 more pci' year, or during thc total period the Q05;
"L"/“lille ‘ll l”`il'~`llL`<1ll_\/ $l1000,O0O inure than the Coiiservativesgdiir-
ing thc corrcspoiidiiig period.
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\l I_4_l,_._I_. Arc you coiiiiting the Highways money?
‘ ' ‘ ' ‘ I ~_ My l10_li. friend does not wiiiit to count
borrowed rcvciiuc, iiotwitlistziiidiiig that tlii' l’iil1I1'c /liiditor /int it
in. Tho/ is rt'/ivrp you get your sur/ili/.111 (Applause) Besides
ttliis, they had $250,000 which tlicy got from (lttawa as their forty
_per ce1it._, and \vI_iich went to Iesscii the 'burden o the regular public
_works-iii salaries iii my hon. fricnd's own cpartiiieiit' the en-
fI_"I¢`<'f'S Sill-1f__\’1 and so forth. During their period the éoiiscrva-
tivcs ln*/it rvitliiii I/irir re1'r'iim‘, and not only that but built /wr
1 P T
iiioiirnt /ilililir works out of that rr!/etnuc or wrll amouiiliirg to an
1 ` P
I‘-\‘/'1`tl1l1llH'1‘ Hf $153,000. There is one comparison. Let us see
its I_li:ive already said, the Liberals foiiiid the net liabilities
ll\C I l‘0Vll1C<‘1 $l.09f.i.385. I hat year their Outside Auditor show-
Therefore
; or
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fllabil men hav
"l"d'l‘"'1' ”"l.V l’.V Wllfll ll” 50'\'-° l"”1~°f`lf. And lic says that the
liabilities are $300,000 less thari the Auditor and :ill ithei other gf-
 s._1_y§;iit;liidi1jg the lzxtcriiril Auditors, whom tl1e_Gov@|-n-
_ pin _  or t ie_rcabo_uts and who, I have iio dou’bt, discharged
their duties iii 11 biisinesslikc and creditable i1iai1iicr.' That is the
way iii which my Iioii. friend places the fiiiaiices before the eo le
of this I’roviiicc-witli figures maiiipiilatcd to bring out Eestilts
which niight 'be coiisidercdas favorable to his Goveriiiiieiit i i
o/SCR/EP/iivcv /N T1/E R1fPo1<'1‘s_
Docs my lion. friend kiiow that tlirro is fi rliscrc/miirv lic-
ltvrcti tht' rcwiiiir' rind c.t‘/ir/if/iliiro as sliorwi l1\1 the P,»0-U`,',,,-,'01
rii11l.Oi1tsi`do Audi`Ior.t‘?-tliat the revenue and expenditure do not
bring out the same results as appear right on the face of th t Pnl l' ~
.'\ccouiits? Does lic know that in zi list of the debei1tureLdebt)cil
‘ills PYOVIIICC this year by the Outside Auditor there is $12 ooo
more than there is in the debenture debt as shown hy the Pr`;’vi,,_
lcml /\"‘l'f.°"? _H0 SIIOWS a debenture dcbt of this amount which
only comes to light now. In other wordg the,-C -Ire two d bt;
of $125,000-two separate debentures. Wlliere docs the secbnd
one come from? Ttirn to page 11 of the Outside /\uiditor’s`re rt
:ind you will find it. And this niattcr has lbccn nit thi' hpl-1)
liind the backs of thc foo/ilc of the Province which sh Dug h 8-
iniicli rcliaiicc can be placed on the accounts"i11d blue 1g;v0sk3 3?;
reports of this Goveriimoiitl The l’rg1n';;f¢» af j/,B f,.,,_,,,,,¢ “mv
does not kiiorv 'wlierr it stands fnaiirilillv 'witli rt'/‘tarts of th' le' d
Now let us take for a ininute tlie highways re ion is  l
account professcs td bc made up to October _.___ l_____. _"___ 
ba.Ian¢‘r._ But nevertheless on page 10 of the (`)utside`Aud;tm_15
report i1i_ the report of thc llank Account we find at 1/,aj _mme
date the highways iiiiprovenieiit account set down as ii debt of
$74-949. Was that account square on October 31st im- was there
a debt of th:-it amount? Which is right? This iii the wa the
figures haj_/e been manipulated. I-low :irc we to depend oii 'tc
t ' ' ~ ~ v ‘. '
cou_n s ma/ c_ up in this way and showing such glarimg discrepancies
rig it on t irir wry facet’ I-low much of what is correct docs -ip-
pear on the face and how much is Iiidden, the people will probably
ask of my hon. friends when the time comes. (Applause.)
My hon. friends have spoken of what they have done ,md
have sting loiidly and long of their great performances _ 1w____
t l k ‘ ‘ - `. ‘
__<;____t:_0__ea_t some _pf their proinises., Their first promlse was to
V "”‘3_‘"" expenditure meet. I have referred to this ibe-
fore. and I think I have shdwii by their owin figures that the have
increased the liabilities of the Province practically $300 oooyzifter
ta.i'iii_q tho /People to the time of $2oo.ooo a vrnr moral' That is
the way these gentlemen iiiake revenue and expenditure meet!
.TUC
if 1 . ‘ '¢ nioncv \\'e had to increase the taxes." .1\i1d vet. ill ‘. _ - . ` ' " ', ‘ ' ‘ ‘ - ' " _ _ _ ._ 1 /I - '/`/ '  "' ‘ 1' H 1" ii '1`»'r' ru d if
_ _ _ __ . S, _ _ __ . _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _. _ _ __.f1o /it 1111. ii oiistiii .ini 11... on ii _v it 1 . 1’ 1
_,h_ he Says -_hm ,, T_1,jj_,,_,_. _.,,_., ,/U. j_._.)j,j_. _,W f,.,,,_1__._cotia i1i_iti'_j_li_n_r is tl1__i riitji l_o_t_¢_1_l of _liis_o§orts, this gentleman 'zolio_1'“`.fllf'1lf_‘il_ lo_€_ul_lirl thi ituriiiii of I/ir Proziiicr, .ind that if this _/___ /____ ,_,_____ nf _,___ (_-__"__,\_ (-_"___, in (-h_",,0 _,mwn_p Twcj,U_,_
-1 1..iir those taxes that go in to i`ill thc hole made byierl-t .io na _\ o fini font .111 1 his /ii11d,-cc.i‘.ioi'.c_. iitid 11-/io in liis1,fc\ tiiuc 1.11 iccn collected they would have reduced that by al / , . , -¢ 'T _ _ ., , , _ .d
- i’ _ . - ‘policy /troffsifil flint lit' tliii in ‘int li' ~' 1] - {,]' ' s ‘\'cr' c0i1s1dcr'ibl- 'iiuo it ‘ I I- I ~ ~ ill /"ll /’"l'l""‘fl lf' lll""~ /" “'~“~" 7\f"'° UI ° - -
, ‘li ': . 1"-v ot thc :uno fccs? It is .ri111l’l\'i'1 iiictlioii' of rl1ai1!l.- _ - ` - ` “ ‘ ‘ “""‘ .’/‘I 0* lllfhlllll -*"1" I . ` l ‘ ul' 3” “We 'a Fwd-V "howl" N01 he '1'  "VI *ll 1 ` " f ' ' " lvl"
, ,_ 1 _ _ _ _ ._ __ _,,,,_._\. for Hu. m,(j,_.,._,_1 He Comcg. to ug _ww with the _iwful _“___ i,,,aj_._.s ,j 100]? dy- blnrk nt he fioriiblv mn | i\n.1 I .ti 1/1 _ton lio..i tliiir' o_ tliisi. sc.; were sell i .
W 'V  ' i V I]"'1H"m’rr\' ix lu' 5 5 0" UW mk|""1/ mit if Inmlfnr lvl than he criiiiiot do iiiiyiliiiig iiiorc lint he vivs he] l-IAQ iloiizi Last year he sity; that the liabilities were I 060 \\'l ETMN Ui HW mm JW] /mid “mir mmm' wld 'md “wir “Crip” in
fl' 'l ' " "1" """"‘ l'°“” "I" l"’“' f"‘°“‘l Ulm* tml UL _,,,,,,,j/' jj j h f  ` ' ` " 1,109; hi 0\ p jj' \' j- I- -,>` 'O97' ` will/icir /iorlwtv 1i'lii'n t/i1'\1 11»ri'c turd tl.:iiiglner.”) Om' iiiuii firodiic-
` 1 _ ._ _ , . .~ ,. ' _ _ -,- , -_,__ _ iing. 'c iiiusi put tic est oot forward as lic savs liiiii- » 5 V" ‘U ‘C -' \1‘\l0f SUV lo ills. O11 ia e 10 of th A - » -` ' ` - '
~ l"“'i ‘ ' ~ 1*" ‘We “I” U’ *""’f[‘~ '1""_l/"3 "'H ["1" “ " `"0'~\ nf --j . _ _ 1. . . , _ ~ f 1 _` " _ _ I- ~ ' 1 ' - -~ - I g .. C ‘ C ifd liis rccvi/il nnd tlic rtisrwiis 'iuitlidr<11uii,' und the other two 'went
,1_{  __ ,_ \]_;1ughter.) _ Docs he think that geiitleiiion who ;_‘____:c___i_c__iij_j_s_t__fa1__cg 1  1¢.|_l_g__iis,_;i_ii1p; _tjie _tli¢;_liabilitie_r at that time_were _-nm Hn, _.__m.,_. and mm._,__.,_,d jjm-r _.u_____,_ _md "mv go, J~__dq_m,nt
will  ji Io rczisoiis of this kind, who will try by such cruilc __ _,___ '_ _ __   I P li "5 0 um’ UC ‘L"l`|j,j _I '~ _ I. "_~' me 'mi my 'ml' f'f"""d /""5 H "‘t'|<1qiiiii5t my /ioii.fri`1'.iidui1d his stag of "uir'li’i\'s ofic1'als” i (Ap-
________  _Q01 _he p__0__\___ are ____ ___ be ___ _‘___ h_____l of _‘___ (__“,em__iiii .1_ii11.s .tie sctt ci _ ii the iiziiiie ofcoiiimoii sense, nilirii r11ill_ 1 c z_1iiii_s titit the lligliways nioiiey is not a liability at all. \Vliyg . . 1 _ , .
____ ___  ______ P__Ov___Ce? Itlutt licf \\‘as not thc co1i_d1t1011's altvztys that those clrtiiiis ttioiildille ‘Vlll lmd ll Pm f-low” "5 Sllcll "I IIIS OW" ucmunfsi llrellalfd I"
' lim iid/uslrd Io_i/i‘tJiur.-" llis aiiiiouncemeiit simply means 'thaf thc Department of the Proviiicial Secretary. The debgnfftrm gre
UPKILEI, OI: I_,O___D_`. }_r1m_e ,\1m,5[¢r kmg mg gm my mm ,tm jmje ,_,u__,b Ol m,m.m___ .tri out and that iiioiiry is liétcd and /‘flared on /lic dcboiitiirv debt
_tion in order to stofi an iiitrrniiiiolilv rorresfio/idfiicv. (Laiighfen) ’" ffl” °`“"_"` T"”.\' "5 “".l' "fl'f"' fll’l'f"l""¢‘S Hlllflf’ lfv lltvit' /'r¢'drri-s-
'here is another phase. of the stibject. :ind that is the up- Bm 'I "“`a“S»“l’”0l\\l€‘ly nothing more. Illllrs /_:\WIi'.m"`l 'O 191]' “hy is it "Ol Wim of U19 Pllblltf dfilii?
_ _ ` _ -  _ , ...W ., , ; -L. sz tor sasit is. 'I`lic "I`i'c'1sur ~k--1'
'c-;~. _iese roads. This is .1 \i~r\ \it.~l 1111 _ 111 » 1_lj. ng _ _ _ _ _ _ _ lff_ _P  _ ,Y _ __ -. _er _1i1.1 ts iis report and
_., vt-i'_~‘. .i1-iioiisly considered by the people of this Province todays _\__ _ _ 17_[f)[_'j'l/_'l-_]?_l’)_/_-l-_l- _I’ll~f1lfl1ll._4Cl: _ l’l“L°_~*_" °*~*__>‘;¢ll- Blllbltly 11011- friend is his OWN authority. He
\\'<- 31  some roads,_as l have staieu tieiorc, 111.11 weie built our-1 _ ‘ "“_ le -*A5* *Ir* _“'31 -*|101* ,V 11-_d\‘l°gf1l‘0" Will E0 T0 Of” is "U, nm" ' If ‘W-Vs’ -I' the P"I’["f A“`0”"'~"» "V by 7/10 Pf0'1’l"CiGl
l-~ .r first year by my hon. friends, and soiiic of them today
:iii piactically back where they were before they were tou_chc<l,
not worse. Siniply for the lark of attciilioii. .\ly hon. friends
if; become so engrossed with the coi1s_t_ructio11 ciid of the pro-
lil°:;ii,-so carried away with this iiiagiiificciit sclicinc that they
/>aying attriitioii to absolutely iiiotliiiig/ cl-Vi-_ \\"hetlicr or not
-y are still embued with the "periiiaiiency" of these roads I can-
not tell, but one thing is sure, _tl1_at 11 large aniouiit of money ho_r-
' rowed on the credit of the Province and that will have to be paid
, luck, has been thrown away by this extravzigaiit iiiethod of deal-
with the roads and allowing them to go back for lack of at-
plaiisc.) i
'l`lierv art- “iisclcss 0ffit‘i:1ls" for you! _ M911 who will drag
the tax-payers of this l’roviiicc into thc Cditrts and attempt to
make ilieni pay taxes which they have already paid.
We asked soiiic qiicstioiis coiici~i'iii1igjpiiblic affairs here :1
fcw days ago on the Hoor of thc Iloiisc. 'What kind of treat-
iiiciit did wt: get? 'l`hc Lender of the lioveriiiiiciit practically rc-
fuscd to aiiswer, and gave sonic fliinsy excuses, iiotwillislaiidiny
thu~l`1' 11scli’.rs ojfriii/s of his lic could not give;`ai1_ aiiwer to the ques-
tions because thcy dealt with iiiatters not all \vitlii1i the last year.
Yct those records are iii his posscssioii, and they are NOT in the
possessioii of the public, and the /iublir liaso right to the aiiswvrs.
llere is tiiiotlicr proniisc I find iii tltcir iiiaiiifcsto--to send
an cxpcrt zinioiig the fislicriiicn to instriict tlicni. How many fisher-
iiieii, I wonder, have met that expert? Iliiive not heard that li:
was sccii at :iIl. 'l`lic o_1ily cx|ii»i‘t they sent w:is the tax collector.
/his 1t'i1.v,_ of coiirsc, _just iinolliri' iuitr-nilrliiiig firgmi_5¢» whip/1
//ii' I’ri'iii1r_r .has fiilfillvd so iiolily! (L.-itiglitcr.)
Agiiiii, we wcrc told that “thc I"edcr:il Government is ‘.0
he urged to_ cxtciid :issistaiice 10 ri-tiiriicd soldiers. 'l`l1erc were
iiiaiiy proiiiiscs iiiadc to retiiriicd soldiers. llow have they oeen
curricd out? ‘
Ht JN. MR. LEA: $15,000 :i year reduction oftzxes.
M R._ S'l`I£\V/\R'l`: \\"I1o asked you to do that? W`_h0 made
the suggest1oii_tl1:it the soldiers be ext-inpt from taxes?'Tlie Leader
of I/in 0/1/iositioii! And you ivould ticver have thought of it
had it_i1ot been for him, and you did ttol rliire to back oitt of it
iulirn it 1ua.i‘_fIiit up to you on thc floor of the ]{gu_i-¢»_ (Loud ap-
plause.) lhat is the only thing yotf have dohe for réturncil
soldiers.
llON-__l\_’lR- LF~'\I You had the chance the year before.
MR. bjlli\N/\l{'l`: We did not put the taxes on. Tlie`
returne_<_I soldiers were not home :ii that time!
I0 ~‘“f‘f.'/"Ufd t/ii' hciiltli nf the pupils 'in -the '.l’ublic
Srliools. This was iii the Speech from the Throne a _year 0|*
“V0 Hg0_1 alld- do you know why? Llec:iiise the Red Cross' -Society
“'35 _d°‘"K *he Work for tliein and they were going to take tlt¢
credit if_tlivy could. They 1vi`ll_ tain all the credit they can gr!
ff_"' '")llf‘”9l (I-i\“gl\l<‘f~) Then when the Red Cross, that splen-
fllfl Svtllefyi riiiignaiiiiiioiis and loiig-suffering as it is, bec e tired
of tlwsc gentlenivii und iiiit/idrcw in disgiist, that part o  Gov-
eriinient’s policy is also wiped outsnd is gone into ohh Ii 1 like
the rest of-their promises. .'° ' _ _-‘_
_ They can waste money on the llighways scheme, ' 'iwhen
it comes to the health of the peopl of this Province, to taking care
of the health of their growing Jiildren, they /ww not pot on#
“ttf f0_-fI’¢‘"d1 iwr ii word of rneoumgement for the people wllv
are trying to carry on the work, '
_ There is just one other nintter. and I am sorry‘ to 'have to
refer to it._ It concerns something which the Leader of the GOV’
ernment said iii his Budget speech, and isunworthy allen af lif"*~
if HE were Iooking\for a _Iudgship he would do this and do that!
INSINUATIONS ,AND INUNDOESI
_That is ilie way_my lion. friend speaks. He does riot 1:01116
out with what he has to say, but deals in insinuations and intmdbei
_"‘3l<"‘t1‘.'_ Statements of this kind and leaving his listeners N
draw their ow-n conclusions. ery well.. I will drlnti tht 1309*'
rlusionl We will talu him at his word. Who an |lt4".rry¢tlllf‘
last two or thru years. (Applause)
_ . (Continued oii page Ning __, .- ,