TORT COAL CALI. 2498 ARNFAST’ COAL Co. IIE BEST v “The (jheiv fr * You’ lllCKEY/llifl NICHOLSONS BLALK 'l'WlST OCTOBER 31, ' 1947 IilflfWkS Ear Deal With Habs Flopped 3y W. R. WHEATLEY ironrneel. Oct. so-(crm- Times a lot of smoke going up around the National Hockey Leeu- ue ClFClllt over Chic!!!) Black flaiviw plight, but there's no fire ,,.,,\1.iiiircnl Forum for the very 500.1 reason that the trade-minded giiivks themselves put it out. cries of anguish have come from pfisiflfllt Bill Tobin and coach Johnny Gottselig that the other dubs are giving the Hawks the has ess and won't let good dc fprgffliibll. now down in the fill! m “an ' stout strings attached. nine up to the practically de- lcnccirw Hawks. -T..;-hiii<i Maple Leafs and Mont- rril cilfkltllellS have been the prin- eroil 1 i-ccts of the Chicago blasts. p.10... cnnadlens the Hawks would like to get Hal Laycoe, now ploy- mg defence with Buffalo of the American Hockey L998“!- lmirinr the training season, ebid Cflitlf‘ m‘ general manager Frank 5,“; many, Chicago failed to eoniznilc negotiations that still lei: a LILVCOG deal open. Then, \\".'ll inc Hawk situatim becoming mmmtzncly desperate, Chicago 5n. a ridiculous offer involving g» iiid one or two untried de- riiicn." a bick in the summer Hawks =iently refused" to consider Fran ic Eddolls, who was later tram-d lo New York Rangers. ‘From the Hawk training camp Hudson To lio Honors lit Hockey iipenor. 1.!‘ l-TRURO, N.S.. Oct. 30 —— (CPL- A jzriiiiil mnn who doubles as Hal- llnx iiiveiiilc court Judge and ar- bitrator of disputes in the oft-ar- gued Maritime Senior Hockey League will toss in the puck and the 195-48 edition of the two- provii: ~ senior loop will be open. Jlli _,<.- .l. Elliott Hudson, presid- ent of the Lpague, will do the iioiicis hcre Saturdays: Truro TTlHIllS and Halifax Crescents tpiiglc in the first tilt of the sen- Ion. At the some time Saint John Beavers will be at home to Menc- ton Hawks, eager boys who copped the four-team crown last season. lTlllli fans are sure they have a li"lllll this season that can dup- liriite the Maritime title-winning chores qt their 1925, 1928 and 193.) squads. High scoring forward Clllf Roach will ll!’ lililfk and last year's two goalies Angus iSonny) Mac- Doiiniii and Earle (Leaky) Bootes -ivill guard the nets. Frank Grabowski snd Bill Koariis will present the first- striiig ddfence with Ab McKinnon I suhsiillllc, , Roach will centre the first for- Wiirii line with Win Langiiie on right and Lou Medynski on the portsidc. Kink MacDonald, who captured scoring honors last season, will ccniri- thc second string with Bill Ali‘ll\i\'i‘f‘ nnil Bcrt Steele. ‘l’! 'ljlJ})l\(‘l‘ lrlo" of Dalton Biirinli-ll, Ed Wilson and Wilfred Beaulieu will do service on the third row. Kink MacDonald, incidentally, has ll (info in keep lIUIOFG the shoeing ltlllllllllly gels underway. Jiiilfl- Hiltlson will present him with llic scoring trophy he W011 lier Bid For came a wire asking "which cle- fenceman we might consider in a deal for Alex Kaleta." The gist of the reply was: 1. Butch Bouchard and Kenny Reardon aresCanadiens’ mainstay defencemen, as well as being all- star selections. No deal. 2. Glen Harmon is in business in Montreal and wouldn't consider playing elsewhere even if Canad- iens were willing to give him up, lxzilch they were not anxious to The league tussle between Abbies and Prince 0'! Wales for this afternoon had to be postponed last night when several members of the Ab- contemplated intermediate bles, due to business found it impossible l s. Roger Leger. hitting his stride 'in his sophomore year. is aFrench- Canadian and the club figured his logical place now is with Canad- ll lens. l 4. Doug Harvey, making his N I-LL. debut, is a local boy who was star of Montreal Royals’ Canadian would have to be either on a Wednesday or Saturday so as not to conflict with. the jobs the boys hold. i -l- sl- -l- Due to the two fine games the amateur champions and should ‘cams have Come up with in the have his chance in his home town W“ “Wk the 1998119 15 flttractiflfl u, make “ML a lot of followers and it appears that from now schedule the lot of interest from the increasing‘ number of football fans who are making their appearance. it +19 Practically recovered from the injury suffered in the game against Mi. Allison Elmer Blanchardpick- iniz quarter of the senior Saints will be back in the lineup when A. J. McAdams squad tangles with U. N. B. on the S. D. U. gridiron Saturday‘ ’aftcrnoon. It will be welcome news to BIancharcPs team mates and also the fans and his presence on the lineup will give the Saints added strength as they tackle the rapidly-improving Fred- ericton University outfit. + 4- il- 4- Still on football, and Wthere is plenty of it in the air these days. Queen Square School rugby team are going through daily workouts as they prepare for their coming series with West Kent School for the City championship. The boys yesterday afternoon went through n rugged still‘ tackling session and by the time the series rolls around —hope is being held out for it getting underway next week-the wearers of the purple and white should be in prime condition. -l- + -l- -l- But before that comes up Queen Eouarc have a date Saturday they are looking forward to. They will tackle Summerslde High in the third genie of an exhibition series and fans who follow the young- sters should really sec the fur fly. -l~ 1- 5. I-Ial Laycoe was deal material t9 the End 01’ the for Alex Kale-ta but there would have to be "other arrangements." The Hawks ignored this "tele- gram until the season ivas a few games old and then came the "ridiculous offer." In vle\v' of this and the previous refusal of Eddolls, Selkc fclt "the blame, if any, must lle on Chi- cago's own doorstep." "Anyway," said Selke, "hockey's rivalry is best maintained when each team looks strictly after its own strength." < Gonacher Refuses To Reconsider (By The Associated Press) NEW YORK. Oct. 30 - Frank Boucher, manager and coach of the New York Rangers of the Na- tional Hockey League, advised his office late today that Roy Con- acher, ace scorer obtained in a trade with Detroit a week ago. had refused to reconsider his re- tiremcnt in Toronto today. Boucher flew to the Canadian city today after the Rangers lost l their home opener last might to Boston Bruins 3-1. Rangers Will ilrge , iio-nacher To Remain -l' openlngbtilt, Queen Square ran . .. _ into n lg surprise last. Saturday Frgsgvsoumgfimlgit’tjoNevtbgirk , at Snmmcrside when the wester - Rfingprs hwkvy Loam’ new to To,“ {crs raccdoff with a 6-5 victor in. 0M0 today m an effort w get [ob i:1_ startling reversal of form. ward Roy Comcher to reconsider since that time Queen Square his retirement have been itching to ‘get. another Conacher w“ traded by Detroit cram at the Siimmerside team and Red wings of the National League according to all indications they m the Rangers lust week bu, ,m_ will gct their chalice Saturday. pounced that he would retire rath- Bl" this time instead 01 58mm! H. than comantaNew yo“ pouch. on some sort of‘an easy victory er said before he left that his flfth- U193’ will be 190m"! Ytlrwlfd W l place‘ club needs Conaches- badly, closely-fought. 215s‘): a'll_ the way. Hockey Results Ice-making is in full swing at the Forum these days and alreadyi a thin layer of ice ls coating the miles of piping in the big skating Forum. No definite word has been_ forthcoming as to the date when skaters will get in their first. ses- sion but. manager Charlie Archer will have the bigplant in oper- ation just as soon as it is humanly possible. if 4' + -l- Hockey talk which is as yet plenty scarce, will likely get into lull swing once the Forum throws open its door and although at present the outlook is not any too bright it is felt that a strong City (By The Canadian Press) OJLA. Junior A Windsor Spitfires Biltmores 3. 5, Guelph 0.11.5. Senior A. Brantford Redmen I, Strntford IntllunS 9. Q.S.H.L. Boston 2. Shawilliflfl" 5- lasl si-zison. -__€ L 'il l b 1 ti . Valleyfield 6. Montreal g eague Vil ag1n‘e ‘n opera on 8A V! 0N SIIA V58 [WT/Ii . MINORA BlADE Gui iilciru, cleaner shaves with MlNORA B|ade|— (and: h ufiiovoqniie double-edge economy blades They're likely hold ‘we Hidngmis season’ 'F"'y‘:-:;'::ufi°4"|"; muff" ‘midi In addition to the City League. SAVE |6% ON BIG ECONOMY PACK |Z.o..25¢. MINOIA ll A? 5t. Dunstan’: Field FOOTBALL SATURDAY, NOV. l, AT 3 P.M. U. N. l.-vs. S. D. _u. Tickets on sole of Roy's and Fred Lombros‘ The dark outlook on hockey prospects is nothing new locally. During the past several seasons right up to the last minute it ap- peared as if action would be nil but the outcome has been closely- fought City Leagues, despite rnig- ration of players, and this will S. minor hockey is going to receive plenty of impetus from followers of the youngsters who are anxious to scc the kids get an early start. During the past two years many likely looking prospects who with- out minor hockey would never have made an appearance, have swung into the picture and with more and more stress being laid upon these branches it should be only a matter of a few years be- fore the City will be able to boast of plenty of senior hockey mater- ial. -l- 4 4- ‘l- Appointment of Roy Prowse as icferce-in-chief of the Cape Breton Hockey League is a well deserved tribute to a hockey official who is regarded on a par with any u-hEstle-toter in the MaritimePro- vinces. ~0- -l~ 6 it Ever since calling a halt to his playing career, a career that saw him play pro hockey out in the cld Western Canada League with. we think, the Regina Caps, Prowse has devoted a lot of study to the officiating-angle of the game and has turned out to be a fearless. suuare arbiter who knows therulll from every angle and applies them Admission 50 cents reasons, to compete. Just tvhen the grime will be played is not known but it is felt that it games will attract a ‘with a thorough 13-0 victory. Act- ,Clly Senior English Rugby M118"!!- Vlctors by a 48-0 score in the,’ i l strictly but fairly. \ THE GUARDIAN, CHARLOTTETOWN Harridge Gets Into Dispute Over White i tract after he had served as a bat tin! practice pitcher with White Box on their last (By Charles Dunkley) .CH1OAGO, Oct. 30—(AP)—Pre- sidmt Will Harridge of the Am- erican League today projected his organization into the controversy raging between A. B. Chandler, Commissioner of baseball, the Chi- cago White Sox and Leslie O'Con- nor, suspended general manager of the Sex. Harridge called a meeting of League club owners, or their rep- resentatives, to be held in Cleve- -.and tomorrow to “consider the action taken against the White Sex and O'Connor. Harridge revealed that Chand- ier had requested the removal of O'Connor from baseball's execu- tive council presumably because Chandler was of the opinion that since O'Connor remains under sus- pension he could not serve. The Council is composed of Chandler, Warren, Giles, general manager of the Cincinnati Club. and the presidents of the Ameri- can and National Leagues, Har- ridge and Ford Frlck. O'Connor will attend tomorrow's meeting to explain his side of the COlliZFO\fBl‘Sy and to exhibit corres- pondence that. passed between nim- self and Chandler ovcr the sign- ing of an obscure 17-year-old Cili- cago liign school boy pitcher, George Zoetermau. The signing resulted iri a $500 fine and later suspension of O'Con- nor and the White Sex because of 0'Connor's refusal to remit on ilie plea that he had not violated any rule. A . Zoeterman, promising left hand- ed pitcher, signed to a 1948 con- hit games in the last two years. that students in high schools be lion of High school Athletic As- man will not be next January. In declining to pay the (ago Cliristlair a private When O'Connor noted that to cover all high school students in the United States and Canada O'Connor insisted the rule must lie applied as written and that Chandler had exceeded his rights in expanding the interpretation. The‘ ban prohibits the White sox and O'Connor from taking any part ln\tiie major league draft to he held in Cincinnati Nov. 1O or from having any representatives zit the executive council sessions and joint meetings of the maior leagues. . However. O'Connor today an- nounced the signing of his star shortstop Luke Appling. Appling, i943 American League batting champion, will be starting his eighteenth season with the White sox. He had an unofficial batting average of .306 last season. Richard Leads Acadia Defeats Hova Scotia Tech iScoring R366 HALIFAX. Oct. 30 (CP) I Acadia University Axemen came to town today and chopped Nova Scotia Technical College Engin- eers from further McCurdy play Canadiens‘ Maurice (Rocket) Richard picked up a goal at To:- onto last night to consolidate his hold on first place iri the National Hockey League scoring race with eight. points. Liinemate Hcctvf (Toe) Blake moved into sole pos- session of second place with an assist, one point brick of Richard. Third place is held by Toronto's Syl Apps, Montreal's Elmer Lech. Detroit's Jim Conacher, Detroit's Jerry Couture and Chicago's Max Bentley. Apps. Leaf captain. mov- ed up from fifth position with one goal and two assists. Jim McFad- den of Detroit is in sole posses- sion of fourth place _ points. scoring a goal and two assists as Detroit downed Chicago. G APts uaily the game was a two-in-onc affair as it was a scheduled con- test of both the Maritime Inter- mediate Rugby League and the Purses Helii lip In Dartmouth Fight DARTMOUTH??? s. Oct- 30— (CPL-Boxing officials said tonight they were withholding the Purses of boxers Johnny Bouffard of Quebec City and Clem Crowley. Dorchester. Mass. pending an in" vestigation of- their fight here last night when fans booed the bout. Bouffard was awarded a fifth- round technical knockout over the Dorchester fighter in s Iii-round feature bout. The leaders: Richard Montreal Blake Montreal Lach, Montreal Apps. Toronto M. Bentley, Chicago Couture, Detroit . J. Conacher, Detroit .4 2 .8 3 .3 2 5 Hiswwcacnib maaeaa-a. rue-see. SUPER SAFEGUARD FOR YOUR CAR! Q You can depend on C/njyu Super Brake Fluid to help kee your h draulic brakes in condi- don w en you need theinmos: . . . to guard against wear and corrosion. Ch: sier engineers have developed this better brake fluid. Exhaustive tests prove i: remains fluid and effective over a temperature ran e from 335 de recs Fnhrenheino 80 de rees be ow zero. Use better C rym Super Brake Fluid and be sure! WHAT "CHRYCO" MEANS hryco" is l trade name coined from " hcysler Corporation," and I! the inde- msrkolfactory-cuglnee ' ccmcmpl I sundsrcl qii CH YLO m Ind sccessplles of M1,]! y geriuia depends ic a seen l: no spewed Clirys I ea ers or use in hrysier. Plymouth- Esiiiilfiiid f ‘iii Eritrea/inch AMAWA (Milli WYNOWWR‘ ¢.4'.'. t.. i. rriui‘. i*-'~i'i 80x Suspension the eastern trip. Zoeterman pitched four no Baseball rules specially provide longing to the National Federa- sc-ciations may not be signed un- _ til after graduation, or until after bmmmsi 75 7i W" B0115. '7; B. ‘their class has graduated. Zoeter- igraduated lllitll Chandler declared ZOeiAtmAii contract void and fined O'Connor $500. Chandler had broadened the rule V Liz the number of tryouts for the ynur. SEVEN Sport Echoes from Prince County as follows; 1. Heartbreakers, l4; Strikes. 13; 2, Airforce No. 2, 13; United, ll; St. Paul's, 1i; 6. Lum- Airforce Gremlins, d; 9. Kingsmeu, 6; 10, Arcs. 3; 1i. Bankers, 2; 12. Teachers. 1; 13. Lumberjacks, O. Standing of thc Community League No. 2: 1. Sfilflllillalfl, ' “m, K. 0f C., No. 1; 6; Crystals, 6; 2i. O'Connor pointed out that Chi- Antone N“ 4i 53 3- K» 9f C- NO- 3- schnol 5; 4. Airlorcc N0. 3, 4; 5, Ink which Zoetcrmzin attends, does not 590W 43 6- Holmmrs- 2i 7- V19‘ belong to the National Federation. tory Cleaners. l; 8. Pioneers, 1. Standing of Ladies’ League; 1, HHPPY Gang. 12; 2. Lucky Five, l0; 3. All Stars, 8; Royals, B; Hol- iman’s. 9,- 3. Jolly Five, B; Fizz Kids, 8; 4. Zeros, 7; 5. Busy Bees. 6; 6. Melindas, 5; 7. Mosquitoes, 4; 3- sifikfifi. 3: Dodgers, 3; Beav- ers. 3; 9. Mary Ann Girls, 2; 10. Maple Leafs, 1. The St. Paul's team of the Com- niuiilty League No. 1 has made a night's total that will be hard t0 beat. They amassed the grand total of 3359 which is nifty bow- 1mg in any amateur league. It zcgnges to an average per man of Irene Peters set a new high mark for the ladies. getting a. string of 330 the last night the ladies‘ lea- gue was in action. The string in- cluded eight strikes. Pretty swish, we'd call it. Jimmie Hogan's rugby teamfrom the High School intend to play Charlottetown Queen Square team iri Charlottetown Saturday. This will be the rubber match as each team has won rt game. Jimmie keeps the boys practising every day. and no player is sure of a place on the team for the next game unless he keeps hustling. If we have a rink to house our hockey games in Summerslde this whiter, and, brother, that's an “if" that will compare with Kiplingks famous conjunction of the same name. it would be a good idea, we think. to operate a town league as “as done in baseball this year. Three evenly matched teams. re- gardless of the caliber of their play would stir up a lot of inter- est here. There must be enough material for three teams counting the airforce personnel i which there -is doubtless a. number of puck manipulators. Then an all-star team could be picked to play outside teams. There is no reason why we couldn't giveChar- lottetown some stiff competition if that plan were adopted. Play- ing exhibition games all winter till playoff time rolls around does not. create the interest a. well-org- anized league would. See liangerFrom Swamp Fever CHICAGO. Oct. 30 -— (AP) -— Possiblllty of a serious outbreak of "swamp fever” among horses in any part of the United States was seen today by the American Vet- erinary Medical Association as the result of incidence 0f the disease this summer among race horses in the east. An Association spokesman said that although known and suspect- ed cases were quarantined at the Rocklngham Park track near Salem, NIL. many horses that may have been infected were shipped to tracks in various parts of the coufltry before the disease was diagnosed in New Hsimlishiffi- Swamp fever is an infectious anemia which either kills outright or wrecks the health of the horse or mule victim for lifc. Two New Prospects For R.0.A.F. Team orraws. Oct. ZlO-(CEU-Swell- lt.C.A.F. Olympic hockey team i0 24. two new prospects arrived to- day from Winnipeg and Camp Borden. Ont. The former was Fit. Lt. Robbie ltgiison, 3i. loo-pound goalie from TTAITSCOITE, MML, who played Jun- ior hockey with Winnipeg Rang- ers in 1936-37. minded nets for R. C. A. F‘. teams overseas and play- ed in Winnipeg again lest year. From Camp Borden came Lac. ii-an Gray, 32. of Hamlota, Man, who played junior Manitoba hoc- kcy in 1941-42 served with the Army overseas and played in Cai- gsry last year. He is s right- winger. . Further prospects are expected to iirrive this week to bolster, the team coach George (Buck) Bou- cher is training as Canada's en- try in the Olympic games at st. Moritz. Switzerland. next Jlnuarr and February. The standing of ‘the Summer- side Community League No. 1 is 2, Lucky 4 Doughboys. 12; 5. MacQuan-ies, ll; 5. Flying Hearts, l1; Trinity A Home Product ~ Popular Everywhere Football Finals In West Begin Today (By The Clnldiln Press) meeting at Montreal between Hamilton Tigers and the home- tcivn Alouettes. However, the re- juvenated Tigers could climlb up to third place in the final big four standing if they czin bent the A1- ouettes Sunday and then in Ham- lll0fl the following Saturday. But a win or a tie for Alouettes tn either game gives them third place and leaves Hamilton in the cellar. In the 0. R. F.U., the leading ‘Hamilton Wildcats go to Otts/wa ,to mcrt the third-place Trojans ‘iwiiilc Toronto Balmy Beach, hold- ing down second place. are at home to the vriniess Sarnia Imperisls. The Wildcats, Beaches and ‘Troj- ans have already cinchcd three of ‘ihc four playoff spots in the six- ‘wam union. Toronto Indians hold the other but they wound up their schedule last Saturday. In the intercollegiate Johnny iMelras lends his unbeaten Mus- They start to play for keeps to- niorrow in the Western Canada Football Union where Calgary and Winnipeg Blue Bombers start a two-game playoff to decide which will represent the west in the big east-west classic at Toronto Nov. 29. The six-game week-end program i in the east winds up the Ontario i Rugby Football Union schedule. starts a. final struggle for first place in the final big four stand- ings and gives Queen's University another chance at that seemingly hopeless task of hobbling the ram- bunctious Western Mustangs. i The opening game of the home- and-home total-points series in the west is scheduled for Winnipeg and the teams go back to Calgary for the decldingencounter Nov. 8. The big four battle is between Ottawa Rough Riders and Toronto Argonauts who will settle the lead- 4 ership in games in Toronto to- morrow and Ottawa Nov. 8 in a preview of their two-game playoff for the union title, set. for Nov. 11 and i5. Nothing a-minuic scoring pace-into King- ,‘ stun to play the Golden Gaels who have one tie and two defeats in . three starts. The second-place Var- ‘slty terim from Toronto tackles McGill. tied for last place with Queen's. in lVIont-rcal. n, . w... iiiiwii The Alleys lrwii S’side Players ' iTry Out At Halifax is afstake in a Sundnyl CI-YTOTVlJ-ALLEYS Commerci-l League Northern Lights:-- l I ‘W. Chandler .. . 13s 207’ Frank Oatway and Garth A. Chandler 1'12 134i Gay. two of last year's Ii-lr c_ Larger _ 152 151 players of the Summersidc E. Gillespie . 157 14:3 Kinsmen juvenile hockey team. F. Ford ............. .. 162 1'15 left yesterday for Halifax to Total-wag, try out with St. Mary's College LQdgQf5;- Juniors. The arrangements c, Mcum were made by Mr. William R. Dalziel Fridgen, advertising manager ' B, Dame] H of Smsllman‘: Ltd. who is u. w_ McAusland __ scout for the St. Mary's team. M. Cutcliffe 170 163 ‘ I Total—-2936. High single F. Ford 281. High three C. McLean 719. Points: Northern Lights Lodgers 4 1-2. NEW YORK. Oct. 39 — (A?) — Mrs. Elizabeth Graham's Beaugay, champion two-year-oid of 1966 but lightly campaigned since, sprang a mild surprise today by winning the $23,650 New Rochelle Handi- cap as the Empire City race meet- ing, last o1 the New York season. got under way at Jamaica before Pythinn League Knockouts:- H. McLean C. Brown .. K~ Hem? 20.226 fans. _J. Crockett .. B- Walwfl sanrr aomv, us. 0a. m .. H- FBTQUSW (OP) - Jake Wade, who played T°tl1-—3743- centre and left wing last season lmPerhln- for Halifax Crescents in the Mur- U. TOOmb! . . ‘time! Big Fm“. Hockey Lel‘ue_ E- sumerland arrived here today to Join the A. Patterson Beavers- H. Warren o K. McQuarrle C. Williams .. TQ@;|_2754_ J. Campbell .............. .. 73 86 ‘ll ‘ High 511-1819 <3, rooms; 309, E. Stevenson . ..ll0 100 117 High three G. Tooiiibs 74s. P. Livingstone .. . 65 84 as p0kk,;__ D. Livingstone ....... .. 167 141 1R9 C. McLean K. MacCabe . B4 56 H. Finisyson .... .. . A. Burke .. 1% 245 K. Johnston 801 Q E. Bstt .... .. Am:- B. Dslziel . J. Rush M. McAusland V- Cole: Total—2909. B- Mabev e- - Die lhrdn- G- UGEKOHO M‘. Cutcliffe L. Bagnali A. Jewell E. Kneebone G. Yee L. Weatherbe I. Lafferty w. McAusland Barney's Pick:- J. Dalzlel . .. L Stewart - Total-will. I. Coffin High single C. McLean 256. J. Cries .. High three C. McLean 680. C. Campbell . M. Kneebone Ritewly Cleaners O. Gallant Spitflrem- Ci. R055 H. Campbell . . 127 114 m Norms: A special joint meeting of the P. E. I. Fish 8i Game Association and island Pheasants Unlimited will be held iii City Hail en Friday, October 3i, i947 at 8.15 PM. Mr. Dick Hoyer, Ornitiioiogist, of Massachusetts, will be guest speaker. it iiusuov SHAVING cmiivs . NEW LOW PRICE er Friistvr ShUVI". A . Extra-Moist Luther (or Smooth ltziiifls-ivlio boast nearly a point-‘ i