aes tat A oD) 5 ournal Weekly “This is true Liberty, whe ) of ) \ alitics, Hiterature, and Slews, n Freeborn Men, having to advise the Public, may speak frec.”---Enripide ee Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Monday, April 14, 1862, New Series.---No. 14. SST Vol. NEL. Colonial VLarliament. had generously set apart a pew for the use of the Lieut. Go- | vernor and his family. If Government could not get out of | their financial embarrassments without resorting to so extreme a measure, they must indeed be hard up. Hon. Mr. HAVILAND acted on the principle that Govern- iment should not be pew-owners. | . Hon. Mr. COLES took the statement of the hon. member, Monpay Afternoon, 17th March. | with the other Colonies would have the effect of letting in ar-|_ Hon. Mr. THORNTON—With regard to the Mr. Sinclair presented a petition from certain inhabitants ticles which would injure the Island in many respects. Tor laid down in the despatch of the Duke of New of Lot 18, for grant to repair a road. instance, in Canada, spirits could be bought for twenty-five | te™ is that there should be no property qualification for rt Mr. John Yeo presented a petition from divers inhabitants | cents, a gallon,—and we might therefore be overflowed with | —' pal Shared Se That principle, fr a io of Lots 12 and 13, for aid to repair a road and bridge. an article far worse than that manufactured here. respect to the case of electors, his Grace says he would rinciples e, one of HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. Fripay Arrernoon, March 7. ’ Hon. Col. Gray presented the reply of Messrs. William and Francis Herring, to an application made to them in accord- ance with an address passed last session, on behalf of Peter ¥rancis and other Indians, desirous of obtaining an Island in Murray Harbour, of which Messrs. Herring were the propri- etors. The reply stated their willingness to dispose of their interest in the property for the sum of four hundred pounds with the privilege of next season's crop. ©. Hon. Mr. Longworth, from the Committee on expiring laws, reported a Bill in accordance with the resolution ad- opted yesterday, renewing the Act regulating the standard weight of grain and pulse. The discussion which it elicited being merely a repetition of the arguments and opinions already given needs not to be reported. . A motion of Mr. Howat, to redace the weight of barley to 46 lbs. and of oats to 35 lbs, was lost Yeas—Hon. Mr. Kelly, Messrs. Howat, MeNeill, Cooper, Doyle—5. Nays— Hons. Messrs. Longworth, McAulay, Hensley, Wightman, Whelan, Coles, Thornton, Perry, Pope, Laird, Haviland. Yeo, Messrs. Conroy, Sinclair, Holm, Davies, Douse, Owen, Beer, Montgomery, Kamsay—21. Hon. Mr. Haviland presented the detailed public accounts for last year. Hon. Col. Gray presented several documents addressed to | the Lieut. Governor in Council and referred to the House,the majority of which were severally referred to their appropri- ate committees, and the rest were laid on the table. | Mr. MeNeill presented a petition from Thomas Reynolds, | of Georgetown, fora grant, for 5 or 7 years, in aid of a sailing packet between that place and Pictou ; and from inhabitants of Township No. 59, fora grant to open a road on the division line between Townships Nos. 59 and 61. lion. Mr. Pope obtained leave of absence till Tuesday next. | i | } Satrvurpay, March 8. Hon. Mr. Coles had, in the debate on the address in| answer to the Lieut. Governor's speech, referred to the em- | oyment of a boat's crew at Malpeque. He had since ascer- tained that the crew were engaged in the collection of light and anchorage dues, and were under the direction of the Harbor Master, ever whom Mr. Beairsto had no authority or control. He made this explanation ia justice to Mr. Bearisto. | Mr. Davies, from the Conimittee of Supply, reported a reso- | lution gperpseses £7000 for roads, bridges and wharfs, to | be divided as follows :— Queen's County, including Charlottetown and Royalty, £1300 0 0} Prince County, 1100 0 0} King’s County, : a : 0! 20 Special grant for Queen's County, Special grant for Prince County, 950 0 0 Special grant for King’s County, 950 0 0 Road Compensation Act, 100 0 Contingent expenses, to be divided equally be- tween the three Counties, 300 0 0 £7000 0 6) Hon. Mr. COLES—The returns of last year show that out of the contingent fund one district received no less than £119 &s. 6d., while some others got £2, and some nothing at) all. The fund shoald be fairly administered. Mr. BEER explained that fund was designed to meet any | sudden emergency which might arise, and it might be that the necessity fur expending any portion of the fund mig!it oceur in only one ¢ istrict. Ion Mr. COLES—Such expenses should be defrayed out of the following year’s road money for the district. Resolution passed Hon. Col. Gray presented a copy of a despatch from the Colontal Minister, transmitting copy of the report of the Land Commissiuners. Made the order of the day tor Tuesday the 18th inst. Mr. Owen had leave of absence until Thursday next. Ton. | Mr. Ilensley until the rising of the Supreme Courtat George- town. ! The Bill to continue certain Acts was read 2nd time, com-| mitted and agreed to. Mesars. Perry, Doyle, and Wightman had leave of absence | Col. Gray, as the ground from which he inferred that the Bill was introduced from economical considerations — that the price of the pews was to aid the Government in getting out of debt. It was mean to sell property of that nature without ample cause. It would be better, if it was considered that the public pews were more numerous than were required, to let them, as the military pew was, and the rent might be ap- plied towards the payment of the assessment. Mr. BEER would sepport the Bill. The people were taxed | to support those pews ,which were not used by those for whom | they were intended, but by parties who could not get other pews. As the hon. member, Col. Gray, had stated, one con- gregation had declined the grant and he hoped others would follow the example. It appeared that anything calculated to effect a saving in the public expenditure was objected to by the opposition, particularly by the hon. member, Mr. Coles, who would however be the first to turn round and abuse the majority for expending too much, Hon. Mr. COLES—The hon. member talked of saving money, but he did not appear to think the saving of souls of much importance. For, according to his view, there would be no accommodation ina church for strangers. He would be sorry that they should be excluded from the pews. Hou. Mr. HAVILAND’S motive in introducing and advo- eating the Bill was not to save money, for, if the Treasury were overflowing, he would adopt the same course. He had held the same opinion for years, but until this session, he had not got the true history of the case. He had always{been told that the Government had no right to these pews, but he had at last discovered that there had been a special grant for them. He had no objection to the amendment proposed by the hon. member. Mr. Davies, as to selling the pews by private contract ; he was only desiroustofget rid of them. Mr. MONTGOMERY—If the Chureh Wardens wished to | get these pews by private sale, he did not suppose the House | would object. Hon. Mr. HAVILAND, in moving that progress be re- ported, gave notice that he would move an amendment,to in- clude the pew in the Catholic Chapel when more of hon. mem- bers belonging to that communion should be present. It would be improper and unfair to move in the matter during their absence. Progress reported. Hon. Mr. COLES asked for the detailed accounts of the expenses connected with the Land Commission. lon. Mr. HAVILAND—They could not be obtained until the return of the Hon. Mr. Palmer from Georgetown. Saturpay, March 15. Hon. Col. Gray presented a copy of the despatch of the 0 Lieut. Governor, requesting the Colonial Minister to furnish |™4nufactures in the Islaud, as thereby a greater demand for | Th him a copy of the Award of the Land Commissioners Hon. Mr. COLES asked the Government to produce copies 0 of any correspondence with the Land Commissioners while | sitting in New Brunswick. correspondence. an He was, however, not aware that there was Hion. Mr. COLES hoped the despatch accomp ; : a | must, of necessity, follow it. Hon. Col. GRAY had no objection if there were any such | oe j anying the | Mr. DAVIES moved that the House resolve itself intoa) Mr. DAVIES hoped that when the question of Free 'Committes of the whole to take into consideration the pro- Trade came up for discussion, the advocates of that principle 'priety of prohibiting the exportation of juniper timber, or Would be consistent. It was well enough in theory, but we ‘imposing an export duty on it. It was of the utmost import- had no free trade. We were excluded from the coasting /ance to retain within the Island the small quantity of juniper | Trade of the United States. He was not a large ship- ‘which remained. It formed the staple of our sole manufacture | builder himself, but he could not shut his eyes to the impor- lof any consequence, namely shipbuilding. That business fur- | tance of retaining the timber in the Island. There was no |nished employment to a large number of mechanics, such as 4@@logy between the eases of wool and this of timber, for shipwrights, sail and blockmakers, blacksmiths, &c. And) the more land that was brought into cultivation, the more the farmers experienced the benefit of it by the sale of their sheep would be raised. The same remark applied to grain. grain to shipowners. It was well known that freights from The case of timber was different ; iu its rough state it was of the Island to Great Britain were generally low, and parties | little or no value, and it received its yalu2 from the manu- were in the practice of buying oats as giving them better | facture. : freights for their vessels, That market for grain would not; Hon. Mr. HAVILAND—The question was so important, exist unless it was required to earn freights for new vessels, 40d the interests involved so extensive,that hasty action sbould He had no desire to encroach on the principles of free trade, be avoided. He was, on principle, opposed to protection, but we were very d:fferently situate in this respect from Canada | being convineed of the soundness of the doctrine of Free or New Brunswick. In those Colonies, there was an Trade ; but the present case may be an exceptional one. It ‘abundance of valuable timber for exportation. If the Island night be fer the interest of the Island to foster the growth | juniper were exported in its rough state, we would have no. of janiper and export it in its manufactured rather than in manufactures. Ships built of juniper were the only vessels 1's rough state, He was in favor of going iuto Committee which could be profitably constructed. That class of vessels | 0m the subject. | brought higher prices than auy others built of Colonial wood.| Hon. Mr, THORNTON would prefer submitting the ‘He was induced to make this motion in cousequence of question to a committee of the whole House. He had par- having seen an advertisement calling for tenders ior a large tially made up his mind on the subject ; but from what he quantity of juniper railway sleepers, Some 15 years ago, bad heard in debate, bis opinion had wavered. ‘The export large quantities of juniper knees were contracted for, and of |duty ou knees had been found to operate injuriously, and ‘them a very large number had been left on the hands of the bad been repealed. A similar result might follow the enact- | farmers, who lost heavily in consequence. ment of the law now proposed, | Mr. BEEK seconded the motion. Mr. OWEN —Suipbuilding benefitted the revenue as much | Hon. Mr. COLES objected to the motion, ag legislation |®$ 4 ,{he grain. that was shipped from the Island. One }on the subject would be in violation of the Reeiprocity |*"* "emnaat FD een ao cast Sh-cnbay ey elt Wie |Treaty with the United States. The British Government oe ee hict ero district. Juviper ships were /would not sanction the Bill if it were against that Treaty. 7 oe coed fi ponds ee pee A inducement to build, and It was unjust to dictate to a farmer, what use he should or, PO Diy ee the builders had to bay |make of the lumber growing on his land. He had as much sai ne a — e — oc fe! ora who thus received |right to dispose of it as he had of the crops he raised. Ir} ereat oon "af ahh : ” oo at po wet a | would be class legislation if they protected the shipbuilder as te . . we ! oe oe re at a te u |at the expense of the farmer. we had to buy the vessels necessary for our exports of grain. or ’ : Mr. DAVIES tken moved the House into Committe of Mr. BEER was in favor of an export duty. He denied | the whole. that the measure would be one of class legislation. It would Hon. Mr. COLES moved this day three months. be so, if a distinction were made, by allowing free exportation Vor the amendment—Messrs, Coles, Whelan, Sinclair to Britain, and imposing an export duty on that shipped to the | ang Sutherland—4 | United States. The farmer would be benefitted by having | Against iin Pope, Haviland, Longworth, Laird, ornton, McAulay; Messrs. Owen, Davies, Beer, Mout- |gomery, Ramsay, Joho Yeo, Douse, Howat, Holm—15. House in Committee, and progress reported. Tuespay, March 18. The following petitions were presented— By Hon. Mr. Wightman, from Inhabitants Lots 59 and 60, tor grant to build bridge across Sturgeon ; from Henry | | | his produce would be created. Mr. McAULAY—If the material on which their labor is to be expended -hould be sent out of the country, our artisans [f shipbuilding ceased the con- sumption of exciseable articles used ia that employment would cease also. As the number of our ships decreased, so would that of our sailors ‘Trade would lanquish until it } ;ana copy of the Award, and also that requesting it, would be | finally ceased. In this small [sland vessels were an absolute printed for the use of hon. members. necessity, and if we did not build them ourselves, we should a na. % GRAY had no objection if the House desired it. | have to bring them from abroad. To do that, we would have The follsei petitions nd }to send our money away. If we retaived our lumber, our He loliowing petitions were presented :— i ' : at on! ic c , : PF -.-,|mechanics would remain and we would gave the price of By Hon. Mr. Pope—From inhabitants of Darbara Weit Ft l cicdideneh still teat alan’ | Vesse.s, uthers, Lot 19. ai a se By Mr. Holm —From inhabitants of Backwoods lement, | Mr. SINCLAIR —With reference to the argument of the Vest River, Lot 30, for grant to build a bridge. jhon. member Mr. Davie-, that it would be disadvantageous by tion. Mr. Coles--From William Swabey and others, | to export unmanufactared timber, he might as well impose a Sti 3 a a iabele il ance . . : for pr : ction to their hay from cattle trespassing on the /tax on wool exported, as that article was shipped for the | marsh jancs. |parpose of being manufactured abroad. posed would be one of e'ass legislation. The matter should be Referrea to Messrs. Pope, Howat and Laird, as a Special ‘left to regulate itself. The owner of the lumber should have Gaesatihes the right to do with it as be pleased. By ion. Mr. Coles—From inhabitants of Lots 34 and 35,|compel the preservation of the timber, for the bencfit of a for opening a road from Mill Cove to Black Kiver. few shipbuilders—thus preventing the farmer who had By Mr. Holm—From A. Stewart and others, for grant to | timber from exporting it himself, or allowing others, who By Lon. Mr. Pope—From members of the Presbyterian Church at Bedeqfe, for an Act of Incorporation. The measure pro- | It would be unfair to| Brehant and others for aid to repair a water course at Gra- hain’s Hollow. Laid on table. By Mr. Beer, a petition of John Ross of Charlottetown, Pripter, for grant towards having representations of certain of the public buildings placed on a map of the City of Char- lottetown ; laidon the table. From J. Mackieson and others praying the serious attention of the House to the system of retailing spirituous liquors, Referred to the special Com- | mittee appointed last session on the subject of the licence law. | By Hon. Mr. Longworth, from Joha Wares, Lot 23, Road | Surveyor, for £2 12s. disbursed in prosecuting a party for not fulfilling a contract in repairing road. Referred to the ; members of the district. Hlon. Mr. Pope brought in Bill to incorporate the Pres- | byterian Church, Bedeque; read first time and referred to Committae on private Bills. The Committee reported, and open a road from Beer's miil to Sandy Point; from inhabi- : se ; , he Lill was committed and agreed to. might be willing to do so, to purchase it from bim. Accord- ow oer i enforce a ** tolerably high property qualification.”’ This is om strong language ; but I should like to hear from those vetter informed than [am what the property qualification of e would then electors is in South Australia and Tasmania. _ be in a better position to jndge of what would be a fair quali- fication for this Colony. The case of these Colonies, however, is quite diflerent from this Island. I imagine the majority of the people there are not as here, tenants, and many of them tenants at will; besides, those Colonies possess greater resources than ours, and consequently afford greater opportu- nities of acquiring property. ‘I'he hon. leader of the Gove ‘ment in this House appears to be delighted at the eae prove highly of the suggestions of ut, Sir, there was no greater advo before us, and seems to a the Duke of Newcastle ; t cate last session for a high qualification for candidates than the hon. member himself. The Bill was sent to the u House with that qualification given at £500; it was sent down with the amendment of £1000, which seemed to be nearer the views of the hon. gentleman; some hon. member suggested that it should be £600, and this was agreed to. But here the Secretary for the Colonies says it is useless to have a property qualification for members at all. With respect to the qualification for electors, I do not think it ig perhaps necessary to adhere so closely to the letter of the Duke's despatch as some hon. members xppear to consider. Hon. Mr. McAULAY—This is a very important matter. When I look back upon my conduct years ago in rting this measure, I am astonished at my own temerity. We know that the talented Sir Charles Fox, the celebra Burke, the famous* Pit, and the no less renowned Sheridan, who were contemporaries, bad this subject under consideration, and de~ cided in fayour of nominated Legislative Councils. I am not aware whether the Duke of Newcastle is a scholor or not—-we know that a dacal coronet has often adorned an unworthy brow,— but the despatch before us, Sir, has evidently been dictated in wisdom. In referring to the provisions of the Bill of last session in regard to the qualification of a candidate for . the Legislative Council, his Grace says :— ‘*He must have resided in the Colony for five years; he must possess six hundred pounds (£600) worth of land, and (what is most unduly restrictive) his residence or hia qoolieotgp must ba within the district for wee te & elected. ‘* Moreover, he will lose his seat if he lose his lification—that is, if he changes his farm fool cok tins sesbenab district to another. _ **T entertain a strong opinion that these provisions are most injudicious,and that in order to make a Council what it ought to be, the property qualification should be applied, not to the candidate, but to the yoter.’’ Now, mark, he says the qualification not @ qualification should be applied to the voter, haying reference to the £600 before mentioned, as must be plain to any person possessing a common understanding of the English language ; therefore, [ think we would be only carrying out the recommendation of the Colonial Minister did we make the qualification of electors. £600. In the British Government we have the democratic element in the House of Commons, the aristocratic in the. House of Lords, the patriarchal in our sovereign, and then we have the despotic in the laws which emanate from the whole. We should endeavour to carry out this noble system as far as practicable in this Colony. T think we ought not to come to a decision on this resolution at present, as [ feel that should give the subject more consideration. After delibe- rating over the matter im my chamber, [ might be prepared to give my vote on the resolution before you. Mr. COOPER—I think the qualification of electors should not be higher than £50, as this is the sam required to qualify members to sit in this [louse ; but I do not say that we should go lower than that amount. Hon. Mr. POPE—As the Dake of Newcastle has said that . we should have a tolerably high qualification for electors, [ consider we would be going rigist in the face of his suggestion to fix it ata lower amount than £100. We cannot go lower than that sam unless we are resolved to pay no attention to his a which course would, no doubt, endanger the Bull, Mr. SINCLAIR—TI do not consider as some appear to do that there is any cause for rejoicing in regard to the sugges- By Hon. Mr. Longworth, petition of Rev. William Ross }and others for Act of Incorporation of the Presbyterian | Church West River, Lot 65. Referred to Hons. Messrs Longworth and Laird, and Mr. Howat, as special Committee. House acjourned. | tants of Argyle Shore, Black Point and others, for an altera- | tion of the road from Tryon Road to Argyle Shore. By Mr. Montgomery—aA petition against the prayer of the | ott oe ; 14; from inhabitants of Lot 17 | preceding. a 7 . — |put upon juniper knees, but it was taken off shortly after- ’ v na i 4 . > + : . ‘ , i .5 ‘ . : By Hon Mr Coles—From inhabitants of Baltiboag, Point | By Hon. Mr. Whelan—From inhabitants of Cable Head,| Wards. A similar impost was placed upon oysters, which y are ™ praying for reduction in the present standard weight of grain ; | only led to violations of the law. The export duty on timber | de Roche. : : : ; ; apg ; : By Mr. Montgomery—From inhabitants of South West) trom Edward Coffin and others, St. Peter’s Bay, for aid to would cause general dissatisfaction, He would vote against | repair a road; from James Hickey, for payment of his ser- River, New London and vicinity ; from inhabitants of Long | °° im 8 set-| the motion. River and vicinity. f Lot 37: f ; 1859 pees da on the Worrell estate, from 13855 to; Ton Mr. LONG WORTH —The enactment of the special | By Hon. Mr. Kelly—From inhabitants o AON. 3 tance lle cormnertgne on gs : ames | -2W proposed might militate against the Free Trade secured inhabitants of Donagh Settlement and vicinity ; from inhabi- an mepeerhe as referred to Special Committee on James | by Teenty, and it had better be considered in maaan! tante of Suffulk and Mill Cove settlements; from Mill Cove | *#*&¢y © petition. tions contained in the despatch of the Duke of Newcastle. An elective Legislative Council will inerease the expense of the Legislature, which now amounts to over £3000. This sum shows that we have already altogether too expensive machinery for this smal] Colony ; nor i it seem to be re- quired, for most of the Bills passed here are only transcripts of Acts in force in the other Colonies. Under these cireum- stances, | would rather vote for doing away with the Legis- lative Council entirely. But { suppose if the Council be con- tinued, we must have an elective one. he Duke in his. despateh says that ‘* an upper chamber is generally intended until Tharsday next. Mr. Conroy fora week. The following petitions were presented :— | | By Hon. Mr. Yeo—From inhebitants of Cross Rivers, Lot | jing to the principles of Free Trade, everything would fiad lits natural level. A few years ago there was an export duty (Debate on Legislative Council Bill continued from last No.) Hon. Mr. LONGWORTHT—Mr. Chairman ; | cannot admit the force of the objections of the hon. and learned member for East Point respecting the manner in which this question has _ been brougit up. It was very properly remarked by the hon. seme ’ aettlement,—for gid to roads and bridges. By Mr. Howat—From Richard Cotton, John Townshend | and others, for grant to build a breastwork on the road be- tween Wilmot Bridge and Duggan's Bridge, Lot 19. On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, March 10, 11 and 12, the Speaker adjourned the House for want of a quorum. Tavrspay, March 13. The following petitions were presented :— By Hon. Mr. Kelly—From William C. Bourke, for a grant | in aid of a proposed new steamboat to ply between Charlotte- | town and Mount Stewart ; from inhabitants of Tracadie San- hills and vicinity ; from inhabitants of Townships Nos. 35 and 36; from inhabitants of Townships Nos. 48 and 36; from inhabitants of Lownship No. 37; from J. R. Bourke, janr., and others, Township No. 37; from John Jenkins, Nicholas Robertson and others, Township No. 48; from George C. Worthy, Gordon P. Gill and others, of Townships Nos 36, 37,38 and 49,—all praying aid for the service of | roads and bridges. From Patrick Land, praying remuneration | for labor performed under a contract for building, a bridge at | Worthy’s mill ; from Patrick McGinnis, for grant: to improve the new road from John MeKay’s to Savage Harbour. The) preeeding*petitione were laid on the table. Sy Hon. Col. Gray—From Alexander Cantley and others! of Wood Island settlement, Lot 62, praying that the amount | of a certuin fine imposed on him may be refunded. From in- habitants of Pisquid Road and others, for aid towards their | road eommunications. Laid on table. A petition from in-| habitants of Lot 48,for grant in aid of individual subscription to erect a bridge on the Uld Georgetown Road was withdrawn, the remedy being elsewhere. Farpay Arrernoon, March 14. Mr. Holm presented a petition praying for an Act of In- forporat on of the Presbyterian Church, Brookfield, Lot 23. Reterred to Messrs. Holm, Howat and Davies, as Special Committee. The Bill was reported and read first time. Hon. Mr. Haviland moved the second reading of the Bill suthorizing the sale of certain pews in St. Paul's Church, Charlottetown, held by the Government. He had deferred | j Hon. Mr. HAVILAND moved the second reading of the | Bill authorizing limited liability in partnerships. The prin- | ciple of the Bill had been recognized in Great Britain since | the year 1855. It had been adopted in the neighbouring | Province of New Brunswick. Lie was" -t aware whether it | was in force in Nova Scotia, but believe. it was in operation in Canada. Great difficulties existed in obtaining the co-ope- ration of parties having money, in testing the value of any new business with the practical details of which they might be personally unacquainted. As an example of the necessity of the Bill, he supposed the case of a party wishing to estab- lish a fishery, wiho nvests £5000 in it. Another party may be willing to encoarage the enterprise to a certain extent, say by investing £2000, whieh amount he would be willing to risk in the speculation ; bat, as the law now stood, he would be liable, equally with the original projector for the whole of the debts which might be incurred. ‘The party who invested the sum of £2000 might have all his remaining property sweptaway. The object of the Bill was the alteration of the law, 80 as, in case of joint stock comyanies, to obviate the ne- cessity of special Acts of incorporation, and to restrict indivi- dual liabilities to the amount of stock held by the partners | respectively. The Bill provides that the public may have pro- | tection, by means of ‘the knowledge of the Amount of* stock | held by the special partners. It requires that a record of the amount of each individual’s interest in any mercantile asso- ciation, must be registered in the offices of the Prothonotary, or of his Deputies, in the Counties of King’s and Prince, and be published in the Royal Gazette. There would still, how- ever, be two parties liable to the full extent of their means, as at present. The principle of limited liability had been found to have had a beneficial effect in the encouragement of trade, and, a fortiori, its adoption would be advantageous to a new country like this, by inducing an increased circulation of money, and consequently encouraging and extending enter- prise by enlisting the co-operation of capitalists, who would not wish to risk all in a speculation, as they would be com- pelled to do under the law, as it stands at present. lon. Mr. COLES had no objection to the Bill, as explained, especially as it had no retrospective effect on existing part- nerships. The Bill was then committed. Mr. John Yeo, Chairman. * hie motion for some time, having been told by the Church Wardens that the Government had no right to interfere in the matter, that the property in the pews was not in the Execu- tive. but he found that it was. In 1835 a warrant for £100 was ‘sued to the building committee of the Church, which was current price for two double and one sinzle pew. The Overnment owned three pews. That for the Legislative Coun- cil and the one for the Assembly were double, while the mili- tary pew was single. The Government had also a claim to a win the Roman Catholie Chapel in Charlottetown, there ving been a grant to the byilding committee of that Church ora pew. This he was not aware of when he introduced the Bill. He would move an emendment in Committee to include that pew in the Act, as he considered that the Go- an should cease to be pewholders in any place of wor- Hon. Col. GRAY— should be eel widely different in g it was high time that church and state one Colonies The case might be Hoagland. He wished to have no more etme a ange with denominations and particular ea: st at 'p. t year, the House paid £72 omens wer ne ~ ae = W accommodation. One body ha aan J be ke Ba ‘ned to receive the sum voted to it, and Ww, Ht by the Bill we could get £100 and save £72,he would Support the measure. . r. DAVIES thought it not necessary that the sale of the pews should be by public com petition. The Church Wardens night effect the purchase by private contract. a Mr. COLES was sorry that he was not present when e Ball was read Ist time ; he would Oppose going to Com- mittee. The Government had no right to sell these pews for, although nominal! . . Feally in the Church. Hon. Mr. HAVILANDr in 1835. Hon. Mr. COLES—If th » tb was not for the p cad @ copy of the warrant for £100 ¢ Government of that day did give urchase of these pews. The Church y in the Government, the property was | Mr. BEER approved of the Bill. It would have the effect |of asssociating capital in enterprise. The union of several | small capitalists would still represent a large amount of ecapi- tal. It would not be necessary to get special acts of Incor- | poration ; this would be a benefit to the Culony,by facilitating | associations of individuals, Mr. DAVIES—In England he had observed the word ‘Li- mited’’ on signboards over the doors of companies of limited liability. He thought it was reqvired by law to have them. He highly approved of the principle of the Bill, for men with capital do not care about investing their means in speeula- tions, where they are liable to lose all their property. For instance, the Government advertised for two steamers to ply between the Island and Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. If these vessels should be owned in the Island, it would be of great benefit to the Colony, as keeping a large amount of money here. The boat last employed spent nothing in the Is- land. Without some such measure as the present, parties here would not, probably, be willing to unite and embark in | this speculation. / Hon Mr. HAVILAND—While he had no objection to the signboard referred to by Mr. Davies, yet it was hardly neces- |sary in this Island, although the case was different in Great | Britain, where the places of registratiou were so numerous |that a party could scarsely know where to look for the infor- mation he might require. Mr. DAVLES, on consideration, thought it not necessary. lion. Mr. POPE—The Act was required, and great advan- tages would result from the impetus it would give to enter- prise, for which a wide field would be opened, by the encou ragement it would give to speculation. *rogress was reported. Hon. Col. GRAY in answer to the question put by the Hon. | Mr. Coles, could now state thot no corresspondence had taken | place between the Government and the Land Commissioners, | | with the despatch received from the Governor General. | the Speaker that if a Bill had been introduced. it would have When he said Free Trade as secured by ‘I'reaty, he did not! been submitted with a blank. When the Bill is brought in, mean that we had it absolutely, it was merely partial. the subject may be discussed again, and that will give hon. Specious arguments had been adduced in favor of retaining members an additional opportunity. The Government have no the timber, yet the principle was unsound, and should be in- | +p os or tear euanoel tes ee See ee ‘ : 5 : »position are no ote, —. a - rep eae -. some He was not in- | eh tabe for the deepeee. In regard to the measure passed ome Ao a branch of industry at the expense of | last session, it was in consequence of the recognition of the others. The motive of the member who had moved for the | principle in the Canadian Act of a property qualification for committee was doubtless good, yet it was contrary to sound | members that we were led to introduce it into our Bill. We principles. As to the affect on our artisans, of allowing the thought if the principle was applicable in that Province it timber to leave the country, unmanufactured, he considered would be equally so in this Island. But it appears that his that there would always be inducements to people of that Grace the Duke of Newcastle thought that the law in South class. he necessities of life were here so much ebeaper than | Australia _ oe where § Soareey high ping vere in other countries, that facilities would exist for the employ- |‘ sagan’ Se enema rer Bone. tasteres Sate the, areainn, ae a : P!IOY-| worked better than the Canadian Act, and hence the sugges- ment of mechanics in this Island. If manufactures were | tion contained in the despatch before the Committee. Now, properly carried on, they would be found as remunerative as when I bave considered the two principles I think there is no in the neighbouring Colonies, where the price of living was; comparison between them. It does not seem proper that a far higher. We had Free Trade with Canada, yet the) person who has no property should be required to vote only Canadian manufactures did not interfere with ours, for there for one who has this qualification. His Grace does not state | that the Councillorsshould not have any property—that they . . - ) — £ |should have might naturally be expected ; but he recommends interfered with our internal trace, T - farmers are not | that those who vote for them should possess this qualification. likely to sel! their timber at a rate below its value—they are | he desirableness of there being a difference between the qua- were no Canadian manufactures imported, which appreciably to represent not only the settled principles, and what on a large seale is called the traditionary policy of the country, and also to a certain extent i/s property, experience and edu- cation.”’ I consider, then, as he a to desire perty should be represented, that a// landholders should have a voice in electing members for that branch of the ture ; and that if the ween of electors for Councillors be made too high, property will only be partially represented and there will be danger of the interests of the two bodies clashing together, thus preventing their harmonious working. There are many farmers in the country whose property is not worth £100; such as those living in new settlements, where land may not have acquired much valee. His Grace says that he would enforce a veneg | high ea for electors ; but as he appears to think that a L600 — in this Colony for Councillors would restrict the choice to too few, I am of opinicn that he would consider that £100,which is one-sixth of the sam he objected to in the case of members, would restrict the number of electors too much. By making the qualification £50, which I consider suffcient! high, we would include nearly all the landholders in the lony, and leave some hope that there might be harmonious working be- tween the two branches of the Legislature. House adjourned. Tuurspay, March 20. duly alive to their own iuterests, Juniper was a valuable | jification of electors for the Council and those fur this House wood.» It remained longer in the soil than other kinds. | must be apparent. It is sufficient that one branch of the Le- Hardwood genecally succeeded soft and vice versa. With! gislature should represent all classes of the community from juniper it was otherwise. It grew in succession to hardwood. | the oe to = lowest. We sy oye aa and juniper would suceeed to a growth of its own species. If) fo peers hatingtees, sesv-ve pele ok AM tee sah ae a Reais : ‘ ee 7 pays a tax for road service, is entitled to vote ; is it ne- the House decided that they repudiated the principle of Free ‘eessary, then, that the same principle should be carried out, Trade, there would be no impediment to taking up this’ when “it is deemed advisable to form an elective upper question. Ie did not recollect the particular articles speci- | chamber? tied in the Reciprocity Treaty, but if wood was included in| Hon. Mr. COLES—I did not say that the qualification of it, the proposed law would militate against it. | electors for both Houses should be the same. Mr. DOUSE, would be sorry to see the juniper taken off Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH—I understood nothing of the the Island. ‘Timber was becoming very scarce. The Birch | kind ; bat the fact that the hon. member has moved that the was nearly all gone. At Belfast, shipbuilding had nearly | geerecseee Shei a ee eg San aee is a ae oie . : Bari tion 7) i ; sovernment ha 0- ceased, in consequence of the scarcity of timber. Shipbuilding | Sasol thin. cae oan te hae mnie for seahind circulated thousands of pounds, which would not be the case, jess. He is at liberty to make the most of it. When we if the raw material for the business no longer existed. As proposed that the qualification should be £100 leasebold or well might the brewer carry on his busiuess without malt, or the shoemaker without hides. In short, every mechanic | freehold, I think we named it so low that every person who would be unemployed without the materials for his business | ought to have a vote will possess one. The farm, whether leasehold or freehold, must be poor indeed which is not worth —as the shipbuilder in his business, without timber. He was in favor of a smal! export duty. that amount. It is better to fix the qualification on this principle than to a a certain ee atten - oe i ase it mi @ necessary in some Hon, Mr. LALRD—It was right to encourage manufactu- a ian 100 sannal Seat to anes a right arg I res, but they should do it honestly; not tax one class to) consider we should not fritter away that part of the Duke’s benefit another. If they taxed timber, they should tax ali other matcrials exported. He would have no objection if all articles of export were taxed alike. despatch which relates to thie matter ; for if we fix the om fication of electors at too low a rate it will defeat his object, Hon. Mr. POPE—The principle involved did not com- mend itself to his favorable opinion ; but circumstances alter Cumegetine on despatch respecting elective Legislative Council resumed, Mr. SINCLAIR—As I did not e~ “lade my remarks last evening T will return to the subject. [was gei~ on to refer to that part of the despatch of the Duke of Newcastle whi> relates to the Council being so composed as to reflect the settled wishes of the vle. For this purpose it is previded that only one half of the Councillors can be elected at a time, aud then they are to bold their seats for a period ot eight years. Notwithstanding thir, we are told that the Council may claim equally with the Assembly to speah the voice of the community. Now, it appears to me, with a Council so constitu. ted, the very evil which we are endeavouring to remedy will be in- creased, namely, that when a change takes place ia regard to the position of parties in this House, the Council is then likely to be op- posed to the majority. It has been remarked by eeme gentleman that unless we fix a high qualification for electors the Bill will not probably receive the Royal assent. I have reed the Duke’: over carefully, and consider that nearly all hie suggestions ce in re- gard to the candidate. What he says respecting the quabiention of electors is only his opinion; he does not state that he vrould require us to agree to it. Referring to this subject brings to my recollec- tion the remark of the hon. member for Georgetown last evening, that as the Cotonial Minister recommends that the rty ea cation shouid be applied, not to the candidate, but fo the voter, he must relate to the £600 qualification of cendidetes contained in the Bill of last session. I must say that I often envied that hon. member for the beautiful language in which be can clothe his ideas, but I never envied him for his discrimination of judgment; and in regard to his view of the meauving of the Duke’s despatch on this point, I may say that it appears to me simply ridiculous. The hon. leader of the Government in this House says that he always was of opinion that electors for the Council should have a property qualification ; but, Sir, it appears that the clause res ng electors in the Bill of last year passed without opposition. nd I must say that consider- ing the aristocratic tendencies of some of the members on the other and we shall lose the benefit of his experience. The remarks cases. In this small colony, the only manufacture was of the hon. leader of the Opposition in reference to the prin- ciple on which the present and all preceding Legislative Coun- cillors in this Colony have been appvinted, were out of place. . , All that my hon. colleague, the leader of the Government in | shipbuilding. In a few years the timber would be used up, | this end of the building stated was, that he considered it a if we allowed the little juniper we had left to be destroyed, | yery great objection to the principle of departmental Govern- for, as in the instance when the knees referred to were got —— —— ee of = en orate by | should have an | i i riviiege of hoidin tod a ose ae e ada ee nie woe peceier’ Sed I think bis remarks were quite just, because er oe ee ‘ officers from such a House may be said to have no responsi- geod. All cur meshanice would safer and be compelled ° bility, they are only parchment lords as is said in the British leave the Island. The hon member Mr, Sinclair’s allusion | parjiament—they hold their seats merely at the pleasure of to the export of wool bore no analogy to the case of timber, the Crown—they can be created and dismissed at a breath. as the supply of the former was renewed and probably in-| fon. Mr. COLES—Surely the hon. member does not mean creased annually. It had been said that the measure would | to say that the Legislative Councillors are in that position be one of class legislation; if it were so to a certain limited pow. extent, it must be borne in mind that individual interest} Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH—Oh, there are many ways e must give way to the general good. Ia England a transfer | getting clear of Legislative Councillors. They are merely duty of 1s. per ton bad been imposed on Colonial ships. New Brunswick had imposed an export duty of 2s. 6d. per M. on lumber exported to Britain. We must depend for prosperity as well on manufgctures as on agriculture. We the nominees of the Crown, and have no responsibility. Mon. Mr. LONGWORTH—Their case is quite different ; haye no articles of export but agricultural produce, and the they hold their titles and position by a long hereditary right. The views of the hon. member for Belfast were perfectly cor- rect, and I cannot understand why the hon. leader of the Op- while in New Brunswick, nor had there been occasion for any. | Hon. Mr. COLES—How is it with the lords in Britain? exportation of that was unfettered at present, Free Trade position should take objection to them. representatives of | side of the House, I was not a little astonished that the Bill was in- troduced so as to allow the same electors to vote for Councillors as for members of this House. With all deference to the superior knowledge of the Duke of Newcastle, Ido not agree with him in reference to the necessity of a difference in the qualification of elec- tors for the two bodies. I think there would be a sufficient difference between the Council and this House resulting from the different manner in which the elections are to take place. We know, Sir, that in the natural atmosphere a cloud arises, the lightnings dash, the thunder rolls, and the rain descends in torrents, but as soon as the cloud has passed over, all is again quiet and still. So with the political atmosphere ; elections for this House generally take place amid agitation and turmoil; but after they are over in a short time everything is calm. In this quiet period, after the storm of a gene- ra! election bas subsided, an election for a et of the Council may take place, and the returned candidates to upper chamber reflect quite different sentiments trom those held by members of this House. Another reason why the Council might reflect different eats from this House is, that three or four constituencies of this to be thrown into one for the upper chamber. But as the C | Minister seems to think that there should be a property q ‘for electors, perhaps it would be well for us to fix a small think if he knew that the qualification for members of this was only £50, he would agree to that amount for the | of Council electors, a |