_ JUNE 2, (1923 (continued from P886 9 -.- u STEwARfr; Why have they . _ CROSBY: Because in hl-"mffiio" of the engineer the ' rice was too b1511- . QTEWART: And they were "by day's work’! p l1 MR. cnosnv. Yes. "Si-suntan": why is it that Ngjectil are let and the con- iiione spent in {Ififiilflrlgi that)’; You will rent many road inspectors a Kw increased their salaries lignflldflrubw by the amounts imp made out of hlghwayfl .wer.. completed 111' 11105" did not tender ior them. flee"... to have been a coni- m imiween the tenderer and ly worker, although the al'- ment with the Dominion “mast. calls for the work to oi". by tender only. Take now wdatzcollnts; _it is impossible luffoiil them jlist where we d They are not carried for- ' There ls no running ac- ‘ii-gilt through to show an ', pbalance. Taking it all ili p, record of my hon. friend I I very imperioctshape lli- iiielliod of keeping 111130111"- ‘ gy and thirty eerinK W11" ‘llllii money. ‘part of ‘the revenue at all. [he tux-payers in the end. i“ iii» a more manly tglltiorward plan to H (he people directly. lllBill childish tubterfuge. Hire there and put in ll llllll l1 11l- \\\i\ take advantage of the high .-. line that the Leader of r.) not able to niake- arrange s no change from firs liry. lying roads and en- wils nothing in the Ac ollt [lflflllllllttill roads. ill. A. l". ARSENAULT: Oll I‘ list-d its road policy. olc the TOTAL SUM to build "i1 and improving 1 swamp roads and culverts. ON. lllit. CROSBY: Tliat is rect. ill. STEWART: That t you did. though. is ll. ARSENAULT: Your policy i'.).'.’0 is not in line with your The.'proof of int dny policy. tlsAln the roads you are build lou have not expended al mpy places. - impossible to build any othe INTED HEELS. Almost any shoe liar a smarter look When you wear "points! _ ‘Are they to b‘ had 1h Mercury'o? Ra- tlierl Al dcalon’ enrywlran. l Macon Mina, LflnQ IAIN-Vila; clinics. 0011111101011 there is such .11 That matter ofythe 0111110" ‘lrlludtld t0 by tlic member for f (Mr. lirodie) shows the care- . stated, there were betweeen different nls charged up for engineer- why should you pay 1110111111 are not engin- ‘1 l don't know that anything he said further about borrow- Because a cci'- revcliile is sot ., ii is argued that therefore!) amount is not comini-r ""1 o‘ Yet the Leni- oi the Government 1111111115911“): himself when he says 1111 iii the reasons for lmiiflfllnl! mmai [axes is that the auto rad been replace-ll 1W 1111195 W, Wnple of this country. It is “m. step further; it comes out ‘ 1t. and take it It ls We p. iiir- proof oi it, that it is part [liq public debt. Those deben- ti by mflqircs as forniilig part of tlic e . Ho»; iiii, CROSBY: Our policy i. to get into such shape with éimniiilon Government that we ya grant. We hud ideas along the position was suggesting but wc . a a/Mal kind. Every contract l 11:1 iiy tender, hilt there was certain amount of day's work in ilf‘l.‘l.lf)ll with them that was un-i liable. Where in the opinion llic engineer accurate uieasure- nts cannot he made the work ll be dune by days’ work. There Thai is ivbut we did ——tho culverts. You li- that tlie (lovernnient has not ()n page oi‘ tlie Journals oi the llouse, 0, on motion of Premier Bell, ondi-li by .\lr. Crosby, it was olvcd that it be expedient to low-lying not tlie money in the construction - improvement of low-lying and You have put n l: amount of it into upturning lill1 roads that we claim was necessary. You claim that it 110i roads, that you have ob- - keep of these 450 miles. There are 0.200 milerorroad GIN!!! Island "lsslil ilN isillllils iliillliil iiilsllllii tained a cession in being allow- ed to build them as you are doing. Did you ever try to eliminate from thosc projects those ' sections which are already perfectly dry, where there are always good roads as soon as the snow. is off the ground? Why the people like the roads is because you have improv- ed some low-lying places in the projcrts, and the farmers appreci- ate that. But they forget, when they get this present benefit, that a lot of their money has been wasted on the other stretches oi road. You admit that yoil had to increase the taxes in order to sup- plemtnt this matter, by withdraw- lug that portion out of the revenue iuadc up oi auto fees. Here ‘we are lacing o. very hard burden where we should practice economy. This Government has made it s0. that now the ordinary expenditure of this Province is practically doubic what it was three or four yearn ago. ‘We ha\'e now reached the l.l8l‘1(_0l practically $1,000,000 a year expenditure. Even admit- ting that every cent was expend- first step in this grand ‘march to- wards increased taxation, increas- ed eixpentliture and extravagance. Any Government that will follow you. may justly lay this blame up- on yuu, that you have led the march towards a largo expenditure every year. This iiiny lead to very tiangcrolis results. The Premier says llt- hopes, that the automobiles‘ will iucrezlse. l know that agreat many oi‘ lls who own cilrs feel, with the high price oi gasoline, oll, garage repairs, and so forth, that it taki-s a mail with means to ui- forlldhis extravagance. Only a very small proportion of farmers iii those hard times can afford to buy or operate automobiles. The Premier‘ is simply giving the key- note oi extravagance ——-clicourag- ing lt~— whcn he talks this way. it is not a. policy that will prove to be very advantageous ' to our farmers. ’l‘llis province has the name oi being very conservative in llit! matter of expenditure. it will he a temptation to the iarm- ers to see the Premier or some- body go past their homes at twenty five or thirty miles an hour. it is not a thing that will make towards iiliity us between city and coun- .y_ 111.73’. MR. LEA: Tile way you are talking you would think we iverc taking the taxes out oi the people of the Province. Can we tako something out oi’ anything that it never was in’! There was $13,000 ol‘ auto fces~ln general revenue at thc time we adopted this policy. That was all we rc- movs-d. There is $30,000 more - auto fees collected this year than cveravas in gcucral revenue.’ Only 8300.000 has as yet been borrowed, and we are taking it from one class oi people, the automobile class, the laboring people. simply redistributing the money. We expended $635,000 ill time oi‘ t stress. Was that not-good assist- ance to the working people? We have not changed our road policy t at all. . MR. J. D. STEWART: My hon. friend is wonderfully ingenious. That auto tax was imposed, he ad- mits, before this scheme was ad- opted. Alid because it has natur- ally growll ho claims they have a right to take it olit of general revenue. if other revenue grows - have you a right to put it in your pockets’! The Loader of the Gov- ernment admits at last that one of the reasons for pllttilig on taxes was to fill tip gap made by rc- luoving: thc auto ices. if that rev- cnuo grows, tlie gap becomes big- ger. If that money was not fund- ed if. would be available today for general revenue. = liON. MR. LEA: if a man is I faxed on three cars, could we have taken that much additional rev- enue? MI’. STEWART: The man with three cars would be paying the same license under the law whetli- er the money was funded or not. 1‘ He would be relieving the tax-pay- er that much, and it would be that much additional revenue, if it had not been filnded. That doctrine of yours about taxatlons being used to equalize wealth is rather a . ilanzcrous one, my lion. friend. You have been asking for oiir 110110)". When we go to the people twe Mil tell them direct, blit we will not trust you as a means of communication. (Applause) At present, this is the place for dia- cussing the record oi this Govern- mont. MR J. A. DEWAR: l have ni- ways claimed that we cannot ni- iord those so-called improved roads at a time when agriculture is noss- lng through such hard times. The motor car manufacturers were at the bottom oi this road improve- menrscheme from the start. The poor people on the roads get very little out of it. The biilk of the money goes to a few lrlg contract- ors. 1 have seon places where the drainage and engineering on those jobs was not any too good. Mr. Dewar said he bod heard from a resident of the Bridgetown-Carill- gan road that a culvertbad been piit iii where there was no run of water nnd where there used to be a bridge, and where it was neces- tlie rcsult that the water dammed up. . MR. PETER DRODIE said there were 450 miles of road tinder these projects to be finished this fall or summer. This work is tak- ing n little over $800,000 and that is all the roads thatmre. going to ho done. So far as he could iin- derstaud, when this money is gone they sill not ask .for. any more taxes. The auto fees will pay in- ternst on. the inc ey borrowed. while another merit er says that ed properly you have inadetbci owners. and giving it to another; lt lsl ssry, there was no culvert, with 11181113 worn d-urln-g business hours both by men nnd women. lit is be- oi shoe which must be kept spot- Boston Blocking Co. lyet untouched. At least 2,200 nrilos of these roads are used every day by ollr farmers and there is only $35,000 voted for all the improve- ment of our roads. This will not maintain the roads already done, according to the amount already paid out on some oi them. The project from Union Road to Scotch- iort Station, eleven miles, was tendered for at $12,000 and cost $21,000 to finish. Mr. Brodie said he could build this road, clear of the culverts. for $600 a mile, and the Brackley Point road at the same price; There are twenty- eight men put down as engineers in the Public Accounts, with sal- aries totalling $17,000, besides $1,- 700 for gasoline, and $4,000 for curs. Judging by the expensive way the roads arc finished one would tliink they were going to plaster and paper the sides of the hills. it was doubtful if there are now 80,000 people in the Province. This was no time for large and ex- tra mgunt expenditure. HON. MR. COX: You say you can innlte the roads for $000 a mile. Mil. BRODIE: Clear oi the cul- verts, yes. Mil. HESSIAN thought Mr. Bro- die‘s criticism pretty mean. A dele- gation was asking ior the project from Georgetown to the Ten Mile House. MR. BRODIE: They arc asking for their share oi‘ the money, cer- tainly. Mil. l-lESSlAN: He condemns the project and yet asks for the money Mil. BRODIE: Give mo my share of the money on all the roads! llill. PIESSIAN: How mlich does -lle pay on his farm for farm labor‘! Mil. BRODIE: Not very liiuch. I've got no farm.‘ MR IIESSIAN: The road work was good to the laborers oi this country. They got 82 a day. Mil. BRODIE: Would you go to work for that? MR. HESSIAN: l worked in this city for S-i a week for five years. if tllerc is u class oi people in this Province so meuii with one anoth- er in the shape oi paying each other it is the farmers. I never heard oi one farmer over-paying illioillei‘ farmer. ii a. laborer asks o. farmer for S2 l never beard oi‘ him shaking n S5 bill iii his face. Tlic Chairman called Mr. Hes- sian Lo order. hilt. HESSIAN said it was im- possible to build the roads for $600. hilt. BRODIE said it was not im- possible. Mil. HESSIAN thought Mr. Bro- dit. ill?lll(l act fair instead oi con- demning the Government of which lie was a member. He should be working hand in hand ior the com- mon good. ' HON. MR. CROSBY said there were only six graduate engineers tin connection with the road work. iThere were three others employ- |ed who were students of engineer- liug for two years. There were {other names mentioned under tlie ‘charge of engineering but those ,were just assistants. Last year itllcrc were sixteen new projects lbesilles a number of‘ old ones, and _ very engineer hail from one to ;threc projects to look after lie liud to have assistants on each ‘one. Three oi’ these engineers are employed in the winter. Mr. Bro- ldle rays he could do the work on lthe 18600. flllltilllll. filling oi, the swamps? MR. BRODIE said yes, on the road lit referred to. A HUN. MR. CROSBY: I am not talking about any particular road.| Mil. BRODIE: I was talking about the road l had in mind. HON. MR. CROSBY: li he means just u. little spot here and there, that might be so. There might be miles that lie could do for that. MR. BRODIIJ: When I take the bluo hooks issued by himself i illid all tlioso names-ZS of tliem—- charged lip as engineers. Ons oi thcm gets over $2,000. You put it in your book that way. lf they are not all engineers why did you not do it right? if I did the work l would not go about it the way those engineers did. I would not remove lillls that were not much higher than this counter (rapping his ilesk) costing $400. There was a tirain that cost $270, and an- other over $300, on the top of the hill. l would not dig drains like that-~-eight feet wide and three iecl. on the bottom, where there was not any water. ' HON. MR. CROSBY: The hon. gr-nilclnnn is in our ofilce often enough. i would expect him to in- quire alid get the right informa- tlcu. PREMIER BELL said the Lead- cr o." tlic Opposition should pro- duce his road policy. He had un. folded» a policy already. he claim. ed The Liberal policy is. cieM-iy defined. The root oi it is to take tllP auto fees and fund them. The (‘ciiiiiiissioner of Agriculture says there was only $14,000 in the rcv. enuc from these fees in the first place. and that this represented the amount of loss the revenue silllered. but he took a. different view. That money, he said, had no i WHITE SHOES ARE POPULAR ‘E1911’ Year sees more and more White canvas and white buck- skin shoes being worn, Where one time these shoes were worn only for tennis and other outdoor games they are now cause the yare so wonderfully com- fortable and economical that they are so (popular. iii there l-s one kind lessly clean at all times, it is a white shoe. Clean them with WlliliilE-O. No matter how dirty they are WHlTl-l-O will make them snow-white. Remember the‘ name, WHJTEOf MONT-REAL ' tlie auto money iii-going lto the up- , and Oavo tlie a" A “Slum tire Surface andi roads clear of the culverts for) That is a pretty generousl Would that include thci THE UHARLOHILTOWN cuaxoma v right to go into general revenue at all. The Biggs system in On- turio is exactly the same as ours. l do iiot know whether he copied froin us or we copied from him, or whether we have instinctively reacr ed the same idea (Laughton) The roads must be built to con- nect up. The Conservatives pro- pose to build up swamps and put in culverts, but there is more than that required by the Federal Gov- ernment. There is drainage and grading. The Conservatives ol1~ pose getting that 40 per cent. be- cause they refuse ‘to comply with the terms. The owners of the autos are not concerned where tlic money goes provided they get the roads. The auto charge is not as large as in the neighboring pro- vinces and the car owners are sat- iufcd. it is not a tux on the coun- try a: all. Two years ago the Con- servatives introduced a. resolution tlcclaring their policy and they do not need to announce it now. Mr. Brodie was opposed to the im- proved roads and when the elec- tion time comes he, will have to take his chances. He would not say that 450 miles will terminate the road policy because there is more money at Ottawa. The Gov- ernment will not borrow any more money than they can see their way to pay back. There, was $27,- 930 of an over-plus on hand which was paid into the sinking fund. MR. STEWART: After that very long deliverance it will be again necessary for mc to say something. The Premier is an inveterate speech-sinker, and what he has to say he says over and over again. lie complains that the Opposition have not put forth a policy and then undertakes to build up a. pol- icy anu knock it down. l would atlvise the Premier to make some more successful efforts to meet his own policy, as he plit it out before the last election. We have oppos- ed the stand which he has taken in that subterfuge of his, by which he has attempted to deliide the people into believing that because he has ear-marked one part oi the existing revenue and is funding that to pay back the money which he is borrowing, that therefore the people of this province will go scot free. Lloes he think for a. moment that such a simple pretext as that will impose on the intelligent elec- torate ior a moment? He has giv- en the key to the solution himself when giving the excuse for in- creasing the taxes, one reason be- ing thut it was necessary to make up to the general revenue the amount that was withdrawn in the shape oi auto fees ior the purpose oi paying back this borrowed mo- ney. lt‘ he did not withdraw this money _the logical conclusion would be that he would not have to in- crease the taxes that lniich. Where is the ultimate source of the mo- -ney? ls it not the taxes paid by Ithe people? Surely any child can ‘understand that, and yet he tells -the taxpayers a cent. And because lave try to point out to him, to dis- ;illusion him of this hallucination larc opposed to the road policy! As 1m the policy of building the roads, _he again says that we have no pol- licy and then proceeds to build up ione for us, to knock down. He said ttwo years ago I introduced a re- solution. it was just a year ago. I ivas not Leader of the Opposition two years ago. That resolution is practically the same statement as by his Government when they first established their road policy in this House. it was to the effect that money borrowed should be use-l for works oi at least such a permanent nature as would outlive theliiooi the bonds. He says now that his own resolution was ini- possiblc—that he could not get those terms. HE could not get thorn! is that saying that nobody could get them? Perhaps a. more efilcient man might have succeed- ed. Tho Government had from September until April to carry on these negotiations and when they intimated to this House that they had arrived at an arrangement they brought forth a resolution embodying their policy, upon which they based the act to borrow this money. It was explicitly stated that the money would be devoted to tlie building up of low-lying swamp roads and culverts. ii this work was properly done it should outlive the length of tho bonds.- Tbis is just our policy. That was their policy at that time, and yet they say today that they could not make that arrangement with Ot- tawa. Now they condemn us for advocating that very principle and they say we have no policy! The Premier spoke of collecting this money from the wealth of the country. Just how solid is that argument? He has admitted its fallacy himself when he says flint they wllihave to be made up by additional taxes which will have to be paid by the taxpayers of this province. PREMIER BELL: I did not say that. MR STEWART: You said that one o! the reasons for raising ad- ditional taxes was that you had to make lip the money withdrawn for iunrllni; the auto license fees. PREMIER BELL: That is an- other matter. MR. STEWART: That is the matter l am talking about. PREMIER BELL: That was only $14,000. MR. STEWART: That is the amount of the auto fees when you withdrew them from the revenue. but that is not what they amount to today. I see you are talking the silly little argument put up by the Commissioner of Agriculture. Be- cans-r there were $14,000 auto fees at the time you say you have the right lo pocket the rest of the money because these fees have incrmsed. You say the autos are owned by the wealth of the coun- try. Where do the merchants and professional men get their liveli- hood’: Does it not come out of the farmers and fishermen’! MR. HESSIAN: Do you get your .that has seized him, he says wel taxpayers. What will bcst please them is an average good road all over the province ,not in particu- lar sections. They want a fair, average market road for hauling on. 'lhis Legislature has to deal now with the policy of the Govern- inént. lt W-becomes him to ask any Loader of the Opposition to put forth a policy on the floor of this [louse after tho fate that has lbefallen the policy that he had in Opposition. lie promised to re» duce expenditure-to reduce the cost of Falconwood Hospital, for 111811111116; and lie reduced it up- W814 by $30,000 or liiore. Practi- cally everything that he put forth he has failed to carry out. So that I would very lnuch rather defer Pulling-forth a policy until I go to the people who, after all, arc the judges of that policy. When I seek their suffrage i trust that i will be able to make a more successful effort to carry it out than he has done. (Loud applause.) HUN. MR. LEA claimed that the Liberal road resolution passed 111 1920 dill not an into details. The roads had to he connected. They did not have to increase tax- es on account ‘oi filling the gap made by funding the autoiees be- cause they never were in genera] revenue. it was a new source oi wealth. Outside of the $13,000 or- iginally lost it is not costing any- one but the automobile owners a cent. When the money is taken from these people and given to tlie working people there’ is absolutely no loiis of revenue» to the state. He complained that the Opposition was giving criticism but no policy. Mil. ARSl-INAIELT: The Premi- er is trying to say that though he made that statement of taking away that portion of the revenue 8-1111 11111111112 it to borrow money, he cit‘: not intend to supplement that gap (rausetl by taxation. There W115 0111i’ 813,000, he says, at the time, realized from auto fees. When he made that statement that we are withdrawing $13,000 from ordinary revenue, wc had to supplement it, it was increased only to that amount which was then being received, and not the $50,000 that they are collecting to- day. if’ that ivas all that the Pre- mier meant when he said that he intended to supplement the gap caused by the auto ices, then he is far astray. They claim in their resolution that they intended to fund the fees arid borrow $253,000 to piovlde. ten years and that by other means and this, of course, turned out to be taxation. been stated before that these roads do notserve the iariliers should. the l)oiiiiliioli Government. lfilliiig all tlie reriiiiroiuciits when member's argument against [the low sections have been finish- I be the guiding y‘.in'~1p!': c!‘ of Agriculture has indicated, but tile great mass of the ices was taken from the automobile owners and tuudcd for this special pur- pose. "Ear-marked" is exactly what was done with it. MR. BRODIE, in support of his statement about the salaries paid to engineers quoted from the Pub- lic Accounts. One engineer, V. A. McDonald, was down in several places, from pages 73 to 104, for the following amounts:—— $150, $597.69, $150, $319.85, $211.34, $150. $201.53, $320.97. $160. And yet the hon. member for Belfast would stand up in his seat and deny that any man was paid more than $400 or $500, and tell him (Mr. Brodie) that he did not know what he was talking about! (Loud laughter and applause.) Now, said Mr. Brodie. l think the hon. member has a perfect right to stand up and ap- ologlze. (Applause) I can go into the facts with him any place, but. I cannot go into the press with my pen. and I hope that he will have the decency to come out in the Patriot with the truth. (Applause) _ HON. MR. HUGHES said Hon. i\lr. hash took away all his argu- ments; lie said everything he was going to say. lie then proceeded to discuss the ieasability of the Government's road policy. This will he an important thing at the election. 0f course the taxes will have lo come up then also. _ Mil. HESSIAN took Mr. Brodie to tar-k for speaking about the sal- ary paid to Mr. McDonald, the cli- gincrr. Added up it would not be over ¥1,200—not enough to pay his boaid in Montreal. Mr. Brodie has l.o son, but if he had, how would he like him to receive only that after his long hard study in a university such as McGlll. lie (Mr. Hessian) knew what it was to study hard. lie had spent four years behind the cloistr-rod ivalls of a university nnd five long years bchiui the cloistered walls oi‘ the law oiilcc of the District Attorney, first for tlie interest that this young mo“ and second for sinking fund. They, more than that. I am saying that 111111 "111? $13,000 to do it. At. that 1119' member for Belfast made a time the bond was only issued for mistake. l sinking fund|about the engineer. Still the meni- would never meet it. They had to ber fur Montague stood up like a supplement the money withdrawn turkey gobbler——- (Laughton) lt has'you to withdraw that statement. i flF-Qmark oi the lowest type! ' leugiiiecl‘ or any Public Works de-' ipartnlent. ant today he would be ashamed to offer his stenographer that amount. (Loud laughter.) MR. BRODIE: l never said one word against the young man, and her». he has blowed off a half an hour of steam! (Laughton) ionly luade the statement that the meni- ber for Belfast said he looked over this account carefully and he could onlyliud five or six hundred dol- lars paid to each man, and i found had made didn't say anything THE CHAIRMAN: I would ask cral rcvcnuo as the Cominlssiouerl PAGE ELEVEN 01d Dutch or dCldS. results. EBTHuiutec finds Tlfiilnaliccs of the Province iu splendid condition nnd that. every department of the Pub- lic Service has been carefully and economically atlminisfered. lies- pectiillly submitted, (signed) illcAl-fliur, ll. W. Lt-Puge, l0. '1‘. Hlggs, l). (‘. tilt-Donald, A. C Saun- ders. Dated hlilrcli 1st, 1021i. ’l‘lil-. adoption of the report was liioiud by Mr. McArthur, siecnnded by I) f‘. ilk-Donald. .\lr. LePage inovcd the lloilsc in- til to ivitlidrnw. After these liad been n-ond reading 0t‘ all Act to tween the Commissioners Lineaiid 16 from Lot 17. ing hill. matter was never brought up be- fore the l-Ixecutive Council. district. \\'hy this House should entertain a bill oi this kind. brought to tlie alttention oi‘ Govii-rnriient was more than Mr. the Province is something that shoull first be dealt with by the Government and not ho interfered M11. IIESSIAN (loudly): [should _ _ as tlieysiot, and i am not going to be—- Thcy ‘say it is impossible and l ask for a withdrawal of that to modify their fixed policy WithIstatcnicntY l do l“ m", this money Wm not cost not see why any engineer wouldldrew his statement. not pass a. project as coliipleteuintl‘ (increased laughter.) = The member HON. MR. NASH: The mcnzber for Georgetown is just. ed and culverts crcctcll, and ivhcuitlre repetition of something said inl the high sections have llccn fiiiisli-‘this llouse. ‘ed off a little. Permancncy shouldl Ml'.. IIESSIAN: An insulting re. this . HON. MR. NASH: with by any private member. What will these people who are going to be disiraiichiserl say about it? Has there been ally petition from them‘! from york wmpiNoilliziir. that Mr. Johnston knew ing, without the consent boundary line iywbolo (louse. honnfllliiililidl this bill will have the ci-inize this and withdraw it. qyeifcct of jerryllianiicring a iiuiilllei". zibout. ii the of clot-tors. has ' prii it will not have this effect. lt was gues that these roads must be ac- member for York said he coultknian should conic into-the House, lceptablc ljildge by that lic will be led astray. ‘it is natural that localiLv. if we had enough money to make all the roads good, this would be all right. As it is, very few fiii-llicrs will have a chance to enjoy these roads. The Premier suggests that the farmer after luilkllii: cair take his car and go into tilwu and enjoy the moving pictures! Surely he cannot be try- ing to protect their interests by looking to see how easy he can get them to tlie movies! (Laughteiz) hilt. LEPAGE said it was the Conservatives who opened up the roads ior tlic automobiles in the first place. liON. illR. NASH said the ex- planation ot’ the Commissioner oi Public Works should show that the “cngil.cerlng“ in the Public Ac- counts did not mean engineers. Mr. llrodle said some of tlie sal- aries paid were $2,000. He did not know what he was talking about. lie (Mr. Nash) had looked through the accounts and he could not find ivlierc any of these men were paid higher than between $400 and $500. The key-note oi the election will be the improved highways, and he was satisfied to go to the coiliitry on that policy. For years the ostliuates for roads and bridg- es have been altogether inadequate, consequently they have never been kept in the right state of re- pair. Every province without one exception has taken advantage of the highways grant; what would this province look like today ii we tilriied it down’! There was no way of getting the money except for the purposes set down in the Act. lie referred to road projects in his ilistrlct as regular boule- vards. The road grant may be discontinued at Ottawa but he be- lieved that with the pressure brought to bear, in a very few years it would be re-voted for the purpose cf still further improving the roads. The auto trafilc will increase as the years go by on ac- count oi the exorbitant freight rates ll for no other reason. Per- haps that small amount of $13,000 may have been taken from gen- every section such a , would be trying to get some of the] conmmed in the resolutiun movedunolit-y, ivliicli is to be (Dipflllflfltlllherg was $2,000 given to one of a thing bcitire. anyway, spent ili their particularithesi; engineering mgyL 11110111150 11B 1H Pvvfilvlnihsuppiy an engineer who could do‘ -daily application ior thcm. But toltlie work for $500 a year. _ ' Mll. BRODIE: statement. I Hon. MR. NASH: You I said I could not find any such salary. My statement was correct. Mil. BRODIE: You said you couldn‘t find anybody paid more than S400 or $500, and your state- ment was not correct. ' HON’. MR. NASH: Some oi these larger amounts extended over sev- eral projects which may bave ex- tended over two years. MR BRODIE: it is in books for i922. HON. MR. NASH: if there was any blunder it was not upon my shoulders. At 11.15 p.m. the road appropri- ation money was carried. The ap- propriation bill passed, and the House adjourned until tho follow- ing day. ‘ these May 2. Morning Session. ‘The House met at 10.20 n.nr. MR. C. MeARTI-IUR, chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, submitted the following report: To the Honorable the Speaker and Members of the Legislative Assembly: Your committee appointed to rc- port on the Public Accounts for the year ending December 31,1922, beg leave to report as follows:— Your committee has met on numer- ous occasions and has gone care- iully.into the Public Accounts for the past year. Special attention was given to the Provincial and External Auditor's reports. After summoning and conferring‘ with the Provincial Auditor regarding a clerical error contained in the External Auditor's Report and af- ter l-earing the statements made by the Provincial Auditor respect- ing same, It was quite evident that the error in question consisted of a $616.44 interest charge on a. $125,000 1921 highway debenture, being inadvertently charged in two different places. Your committee further finds that in all other res- pects the External Auditor's Re- port is true and correct, showing an actual surplus for the year of 855111707, and in addition to this, we find that apart from highway improvement the total liabilities of tlie Province have been reduced $127,801.86 since September 8th,. 1919. ln respect to highway im- irersonally and individually, and at- tempt to put over u bill oi‘ this i never mmieikind, without plum submitting thc boundary lino, but this wasamie- matter to tlic government. Mr. snmfllohiistnn had never hoard of such would be stopping only some peo- lt was never dis- peopli- oi‘ the Province. not think that entertain the iilensurt- for one mo- ment and he for one \V()1ll(l vote against ii. not take foresight to predict that SO11]! member might be tiifectetl by this bill. The Attorncy-Geilcral, he said, was lint strictly right in his remarks. lt was not a disiranch- lsing bill at all. Why should some voters have special privileges be- cause of some question of bound- ary" li this was ilot changed he perrsonally would benefit but he did underbanil wuy. ter oi’ changing a boundary biit of - defining a boundary. MR. S. S. HESSIAN said the last. Alltliis__ tliscussion was nonsense. Let the . speaker was out of order. Cleans t all thru the house. C“ ¢con:.id4~l' the bill. committee on (‘ontingelit Ac-i passe-j it would open the door i0!‘ counts. strangers being retiuestcd a number of similar requests. the old boundary line dividing Lot, lferlng with lion. Mr. Johnston said the bill should not be brought in an hour was in other words a jerrymander-l So far as he knew thlsfiioiieo, more The, effect will be t0 take votes from] some ilcople who have votes inonc- Johnston could understand. Slll'£‘lY.llOllIl(1Zll‘Y lines. any change lll the constitution oflboulidary the Legislature is bound I |arc M13. (‘. lllcAlllflliilt Slllfl itdlllllines. Soft and Flaky, wont scratch. Containsho 1y Old one 1‘ c (lczliisvl Goes further. gives heifer promoter lock at tlie Election ‘Act. it says that the old boundaries of lots are to stand. Mil. McARTHUR said he was not pressing the bill, but maintain- ed that a separate boundary was wautnl in this particular case. HON. MR. NASH believed the Atlti|'i‘_t-y-(1‘en1cl‘ul ivas absolutely right. lie W88 satisfied that it \\'()l.llt1 be to a great extent an in- vasion ct‘ constitutional right t0 if it should he liON. MR. COX believed the '. A. (‘. Saunders moved belle" any would be to let the peo- . ‘pie ct‘ the district settle the mat- amend the Election Act, 1022, af-l footing that portion of Lot i6 118-; toriering with their rights. ter themselves. This bill was in- Mlt. .1. I). STEWART said fl llrcilsiill: 0f this importance, inter- constitutional rights. or t-vo before the dissolution of tho especially since it has not been considered by tho Goxcrnmcnt ili caucus. The terms of the Election Act must be taken. This bill proposes to move the pre- sent boundary of two districts. Tlic Act says that where the boun- broualit iii by a private lllclllbflfltiuritas oi the old township orooun. of the llouse without having heemty have been authorized they shall thciior all the purposes of the Act be taken and held to be the only. By changing one to interfere with the voting rights of n number of people. PREMIER BELL suggested that ‘.\lr. Saimdcrs must see the difficul- ties of his position. Ho could not get the bill rend a third time to- day even if it missed second read- oi the He should recog- illl‘. A. l". ARSENAULT pointed The gentleman wlio'out that norcasons bad been giv- “Slllllfifl tllc responsibility as‘ ate liiembcr of bringing in, bill has not liiade it clear tllntiDii-itrict has attempted en why this measure was intro- duced. The member from the 2nd v to show that. ltu knew the exact location of There “dis-an ustoiiiiiling thing to Mr. Johli- tlie farms which are in question. The Coluniisslonei‘ ar- not any smartness about it. The stairs mind that any lion. gentle-lie id they all ran north and sou lie said they all ran north and south and crossed sionerZs line and ended on the old take. if it was correct, this bill pie from double voting. But’. it i8 cussed in Council and it affcctsiuot so. it is true that the major- onc or’ tlie vital privileges oi’ tlie ity of farms arc crossing the two lie did. the llousc should} vote in two (listricts, but there are line-i. and men on these farms can a large nuliiber oi farmers whose farms are parallel to this line and liiclildetl between the two if the line is changed a certain number of voters will be transferred into the 5th District. lt has been noticeable for the last few years that these voters are Conservatives. in this way it might be possible to put one of the best portions of Mr. Arsenaulfe dis- trict into another district; but he was glad to see by the tone of the speakers who had preceded him not walit to will his votes iii an that the promoter of the bill would it was not amat- not succeed in doing this. After further discussion Mr. Saunders asked and received per- ulission to ivithilraw the bill. - (Contlilied on Page 12) .1. ll your vitality. You usually ca the feet warm, the bowels open. provement we find the total amount spent is $653,082.35. Of this amount is has been necessary to es, and this by the Sinking Fund 062.99. \Vhlle the liabilities 0f the provide only $300,000 by debentur-| has already been reduced to $271.- ’ iafree if your ays _ ' ‘ ' ‘ rsona o! conatipot‘ This Will Ward Off ‘ And Break Up Colds J touposalal l Dr. Caldwell’: Laxa- ll: gyro]: Papal: rziovu Ih ollflllldl THE two ailments that people generally regard as of the least importance are rn_ reality the cause of most serious illness and of’ the greatest proportion of deaths: They bung, “we 1 are constipation '1'" moncolds. Many doctors be- lieve that colds, tonsilitis, a touch of malaria will cause constipa- cold in the winter if you are run down. Therefore in cold weather exercise more; eat more fatty foods; drink four 0o six glasses of waior a day; keep the head cool, You are also less liable to colds from the so empty the bowels regularly with a 85m vegetable laxative like Dr. dwellb Laxative Syru Popsin. Atthofirstoignofaool 1T Province amount to $1,443,009.40, including $300,000 highways deben- livelihood that way? MR. STEWART: 1 do, yes. The Premier has spoken about joy rides. That will not please the turer we find $98,210.80 has been; paid out of general revenue to-j wards highway improvement so‘ that the increase since Sept. 8th. 191i) has been only $148,l01.33. Your CAlDWEilS TAKE DR. SYRU [AXAIIVI f/Iiu flitIIli/QF All! IAIIILY IAY TIY IT n“ scars-saw... . 1:2: lfilihwan“""a“ulifi%i 1 tth flrsti arnlnganeeaeaétah : beiriipoonilivlwof laxative h. Pepeinan o tion, instead of gone in a few houn. Don't wait oonsti tion be- until the coll! has a ‘p on you..- i t eir cause.“ Mr. R. H. ow , , ‘Inge fact remains Man, considers Laxative that you seldom Pe ' thobeatlaxatlvolroova i1 have a cold without consdpatio , an rs. as. due b0 general 0o tion. The only Mam, uses it waytoavold col iatiokeepu allillsof r PE .i'"<:rli.~.f'~ t the Commis- "t dthcorgostiou Pellet’ HID‘ “fiflfim loununbndaclrea. satay-nag and‘