neCadreIaterview
     
    
   
   
    
     
      Wade
      MacLauchlan
     
     
      Part
      3
      ef
      3
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (Kent
      Bruyneel)In
      regards
      to
      those
     
     
      corporate
      relationships
      we've
     
     
      discussed,
      it
      is
      really
      a
      bargain
      that
     
     
      you
      make
      that
      in
      the
      end
      is
      really
     
     
      about
      the
      money,
      isn’t
      it?
      While
      I
     
     
      may
      not
      be
      so
      concerned
      about
      an
     
     
      article
      being
      pulled
      from
      the
      paper,
     
     
      I
      am
      concerned
      with
      the
      appear-
     
     
      ance
      of
      another
      icon
      for
      that
     
     
      corporation
      (Irving)
      on
      a
      place
      that
     
     
      is
      supposed
      to
      be
      icon
      proof,
      except
     
    
   
   
    
     
      for
      knowledge.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (Wade
      MacLauchlan)
      Well,
      I
     
     
      don’t
      know
      if
      that’s
      quite
      the
      case,
     
     
      if
      knowledge
      is
      suppose
      to
      be
      free.
     
     
      We
      accept
      27.5
      million
      dollars
      a
     
     
      year
      from
      the
      government
      of
      PEI.
     
     
      In
      your
      earlier
      line
      of
      questioning,
     
     
      which
      I
      had
      no
      problem
      with,
      we
     
     
      should
      be
      getting
      more.
      Now,
      is
     
     
      there
      some
      problem
      of
      conscience
     
     
      in
      accepting
      those
      donations.
      I
     
     
      think
      it’s
      clear
      you
      can
      look
      at
      one
     
     
      side
      of
      the
      university
      or
      another
     
     
      and
      you
      will
      see
      that
      there
      are
     
     
      people
      making
      fresh,
      sometimes
     
     
      critical,
      contributions
      to
      public
     
     
      policy,
      which
      by
      nature
      are
      at
      odds
     
     
      with,
      or
      at
      least
      pose
      challenges
      for,
     
     
      people
      in
      power.
      I
      don’t
      see
      how
     
     
      we
      can
      ever
      be
      in
      a
      position
      where
     
     
      knowledge
      is
      free.
      It
      costs
      to
      have
     
     
      a
      place
      of
      the
      quality
      and
      of
      the
     
     
      value
      of
      UPEI.
      I’m
      prepared
      to
      say
     
     
      right
      now,
      I’m
      not
      going
      to
      see
      the
     
     
      place
      run
      into
      the
      ground.
      I
      don’t
     
     
      think
      we’ve
      had
      the
      level
      of
      sup-
     
     
      port
      from
      a
      number
      of
      constituen-
     
     
      cies
      that
      the
      university
      should
      get.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (KB)
      In
      your
      past
      fundraising
     
     
      efforts,
      you
      have
      approached
     
     
      faculty,
      amongst
      others.
      This
     
     
      experience
      certainly
      informs
      what
     
     
      you
      are
      undertaking
      now.
      At
      the
     
     
      AVC
      and
      at
      the
      school
      of
      business
     
     
      you
      have
      many
      professors
      able
      to
     
     
      work
      outside
      the
      university
     
    
   
   
    
     
      through
      writing
      papers
      and
      doing
     
     
      research.
      I
      wonder
      how
      you
      do
     
     
      that
      with
      the
      social
      sciences.
      How
     
     
      do
      you
      stimulate
      independent
      fiscal
     
     
      growth
      when
      it
      is
      so
      hard
      to
      sell
      a
     
     
      philosophy
      paper?
      You
      must
      realize
     
     
      how
      important
      the
      study
      of
      the
     
     
      classics,
      of
      the
      humanities
      and
      of
     
     
      the
      social
      sciences,
      is
      for
      a
      well
     
     
      rounded
      education.
      If
      we
      stimulate
     
     
      only
      the
      sellable
      schools,
      we
      be-
     
     
      come
      a
      trade
     
    
   
   
    
     
      this
      year
      for
      its
      international
     
     
      education
      program.
      In
      2
      years
     
     
      time
      we
      may
      have
      something
      in
     
     
      the
      order
      of
      100
      students
      through
     
     
      our
      masters
      of
      education
      program.
     
     
      I’m
      not
      underestimating
      how
      close
     
     
      you
      are
      to
      putting
      your
      finger
      on
      a
     
     
      very
      important
      issue,
      you
      are,
      but
     
     
      we
      are
      in
      a
      time
      when
      the
      value
      of
     
     
      knowledge
      is
      appreciated
      in
      a
      lot
     
     
      more
      ways
      that
      frankly
      might
      have
     
     
      been
      the
      case
      five
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      school.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (WM)
      I’m
      not
     
    
   
   
    
     
      sure
      it’s
      as
      hard
      as
     
     
      the
      premise
      of
     
     
      your
      question
     
     
      suggests.
      It
      has
     
     
      historically
      been
      a
     
     
      longer
      path
      to
     
     
      those
      kind
      of
     
     
      partnerships
      for
     
     
      what
      you
      might
     
     
      call
      the
      humanities
      than
      it
      has
      been
     
     
      for
      some
      other
      sectors.
      But
      there
     
     
      are
      people
      in
      our
      arts
      faculty
      who
     
     
      hold
      grants
      from
      Social
      Science
     
     
      Humanities
      Research
      Council
     
     
      (SSHRC)
      and
      are
      at
      the
      leading
     
     
      edge
      of
      their
      field
      and
      do
      get
     
     
      support.
      You
      have
      enterprises
      like,
     
     
      the
      LM
     
     
      Montgomery
     
     
      Institute,
      like
      the
     
     
      Institute
      of
      Island
     
     
      Studies
      that
      are
     
     
      engaged
      in
      the
     
     
      kind
      of
      active
     
     
      partnerships
      that
     
     
      you
      are
      suggest-
     
     
      ing.
      People
      in
     
     
      psychology
      are
      up
     
     
      to
      some
      very
     
     
      interesting
      things,
     
     
      I’m
      sort
      of
      focus-
     
     
      ing
      on
      the
      arts
     
     
      because
      that
      was
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      the
      basis
      of
      your
      question.
      Another
     
    
   
   
    
     
      part
      of
      our
      university,
      which
      6
      or
      8
     
     
      years
      ago
      you
      might
      have
      asked
      the
     
     
      same
      question,
      is
      education.
      But,
     
    
   
   
    
     
      our
      education
      faculty
      won
      an
      award
     
    
   
   
    
     
      Ey.
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      or
      ten
      years
      ago.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (KB)
      Where
      is
      the
     
     
      future
      of
      UPEI,
      is
      it
     
     
      as
      an
      undergraduate
     
     
      facility,
      or
      as
      both
     
     
      graduate
      and
      under-
     
    
   
   
    
     
      graduate?
      Can
     
     
      UPEI
      be
      both?
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (WM)
      To
      capture
     
    
   
   
    
     
      your
      question
     
     
      completely
      it
      is
      clear
     
     
      that
      in
      everything
      I
      can
      determine
     
     
      thus
      far
      about
      the
      university
      that
     
     
      the
      quality
      and
      commitment
      to
     
     
      undergraduate
      life,
      in
      all
      faculties,
     
     
      is
      amongst
      our
      top
      priorities.
      Now
     
     
      a
      key
      part
      of
      that
      quality
      of
      that
     
     
      experience
      is
      that
      we
      are
      gaining
      in
     
     
      exposure
      for
      the
      work
      that
      is
      being
     
     
      done,
      for
      the
      rela-
     
     
      tionships
      between
     
     
      students,
      both
     
     
      graduate
      and
      under-
     
     
      graduate,
      and
     
     
      professors
      and
      the
     
     
      research
      that
      is
     
     
      being
      done.
      Much
     
     
      like
      your
      previous
     
     
      question,
      is
      it
     
     
      scholarship
      or
     
     
      teaching,
      I
      don’t
     
     
      think
      it
      is
      an
      either
     
     
      or.
      There
      are
      24
     
     
      hours
      in
      a
      day
      and
      —
     
     
      .
      so
      long
      as
      we
      use
     
     
      them
      wisely
      we
      should
      be
      able
      to
     
     
      grow
      and
      be
      strong
      on
      both
      fronts.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (KB)
      How
      do
      you
      stimulate
      stu-
     
     
      dent
      enrollment
      and
      retention?
      Is
     
    
   
   
    
     
       
     
    
   
   
    
     
      your
      focus
      on
      Islanders
      or
      non-
     
    
   
   
    
     
      Islanders
      or
      both?
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (WM)
      My
      number
      one
      priority
      is
     
     
      to
      enhance
      student
      recruitment.
     
     
      Specifically
      our
      numbers
      by
      four
     
     
      years
      out
      should
      be
      up
      10%
      from
     
     
      where
      they
      are
      now.
      It
      is
      very
     
     
      important,
      not
      just
      financially
      or
     
     
      publicity
      wise,
      but
      as
      a
      measure
      of
     
     
      how
      we
      are
      doing
      and
      how
      we
      are
     
     
      being
      perceived
      by
      prospective
     
     
      students
      that
      have
      choices.
      And
     
     
      the
      reason
      that
      our
      enrollment
      will
     
     
      be
      up
      will
      be
      because
      of
      the
      things
     
     
      that
      we
      are
      doing
      here,
      not
      from
     
     
      running
      a
      press
      gang.
      I
      don’t
      think
     
     
      we
      will,
      nor
      should
      we
      hope
      for,
     
     
      an
      exclusively
      PEI
      student
      popula-
     
     
      tion.
      One
      of
      the
      measures
      of
     
     
      whether
      we
      are
      doing
      the
      right
     
     
      thing
      is
      not
      only
      that
      we
      have
      2700
     
     
      students,
      but
      that
      we
      have
      cosmo-
     
     
      politan
      student
      population
      from
     
     
      across
      the
      country
      and
      around
      the
     
     
      world.
      These
      people
      will
      choose
      to
     
     
      come
      to
      UPE]I
      because
      of
      the
     
     
      things
      we
      are
      doing;
      moreover,
     
     
      these
      people
      will
      bring
      with
      them
     
     
      diverse
      abilities
      and
      backgrounds
     
     
      and
      we
      will
      have
      even
      better
      en-
     
     
      gagement
      around
      the
      place.
      That
     
     
      stated
      we
      should
      really
      be
      judging
     
     
      how
      UPEI
      is
      doing
      based
      on
      how
     
     
      we
      do
      at
      keeping
      Islanders
      who
     
     
      have
      choices
      here.
      Another
      inde-
     
     
      pendent
      measure
      of
      how
      well
      we
     
     
      are
      doing,
      is
      how
      many
      part-time
     
     
      students
      (they
      will
      be
      largely
      from
     
     
      PEI)
      go
      to
      UPEI
      for
      that
      life
      long
     
     
      learning.
      If
      we
      are
      offering
      quality
     
     
      programs
      and
      we
      are
      being
      respon-
     
     
      sive
      to
      peoples
      needs,
      and
      we’re
     
     
      offering
      them
      in
      a
      flexible
      format
     
     
      that
      meets
      the
      opportunity
      those
     
     
      numbers
      will
      go
      up
      too.
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (KB)
      It
      must
      be
      nice
      to
      be
      home?
     
    
   
   
    
     
      (WM)
      Definitely.
      There
      is
      a
      whole
     
     
      personal
      side
      to
      this
      as
      well.
      The
     
     
      support
      I
      have
      received
      has
      been
     
     
      incredible.
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