oA he Graminer. — SLE OEM ———— ae = te ee SoS er es PATE IT As ne meee pew choose to preve it: but eurely tune ought tobe given Hon. Mr. YEO.—I think that the report of the offer made’ Gorees rondence uy . . 3,4 . | boot presented for Her Ma) ssty’s approval. Uis wei v re . aS matters to which it udverted, for though he | by Lord Selkirk to Mr. Dons2 must be unfounded. I de not | é ° . ; : : } beer sented fu ie ajemz Pee spresented ; weigh the im ati atte pe : : “4 a ; 5 ; , It | & rovincial q a rliament, has been in the Legislature for many years, “rey Aa ; =e " ive had sbeii shia Speech of asi wilar kind so meagre in itself, | believe that Lord Se kirk isa man +e w earn 7 ~ * = Cae bas < Tae eof the only Government which would pass | . lei." “doy > had sere Jouble dealing. The hon. member found grest fault that higher | - ee «ns Toeetens Se Growpber wt the Oe and yet session alter) as that with which the gession Was opened, yet he had sear ely | dou ' 6 For THE Examiver. ’ LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Turspay, Feb. 26th, 1861. House in Committe on the Address in answer to His Ex- celieney's Speech. Hou. Mr. Goffin the Cyair. The first aad secoud pare zraphs, on being rea’, were agreed to with-_ out any discussivn. Oo vhe third paragraph being read Hoa. Col. SW ABY rose and said —Such important inter- @sie are invioved in this clause that it cannot be passed with- | Ont some discussion. You are aware that the delay in the award. of the Commissioners may be atiended with many very serious corsequences to this country. Are not many transactions, into which our Merchanis have entered, de-' sndent, to some extent, upon the Tenantry? I never go into the market without being asked, * What is the Cum- mmission going to do”? [ have uniformly answered, * wait patiently till the award is made known.” Bait che delay be unnecessary. And suppose the Commissioners shoud sit here again bext summer, what would be gained by it?) Taney alrealy know what the privileges are for which the people contend. It is said that “ His Excellency regrets the de- lay.” I regret it too. The Land Question has occupied the minds of the peop'e so long, and hope has been so often deferved, that it is impossible to know when to look for re- anno LE expect: d that the Leader of the Government would have come here fui] of information. Indeed, I would not have been surprised if we had been asked fora sum of money to raise a columa is commemoration of the Land Commis- sion. I thought there might probably have bees a committee appointed to superintend the erection of this colamo. At the four corners, { would place the statues of the three Com- missioners acd I1js Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, all to be worked in white marble, emblematical of the purity of their inteations. would have a relisf, portraying the Proprietors lifting the prostrate Tenantry with their own bands to the most con- spicuoas position. There should also bo placed the Messrs, Bruce Stewart and Tracadie MacDonald, like Peter and Jobe, in the Cartoons of Raphael. Above this, there shouid be a lofty columo, ia white marble, and tie top wanting a statue. 1 first thought of the figure of Justive, with her je Act for the benefit of the tenan ty: seived any redress of | i sesg'on passed, and the tenaniry never recelves y . = § yvrievances through any meusure of his thono,’s. . ) a |} few mouths have elapsed since the Act was passed to auto, "| hise the appoimment of the Comuisstoen, and hs ramet “i plains thet the cwntry will be ruined in coasequenc m ry delay in making the award. | thiok that the course laneo ‘ the Legiajature was a very foriudate one, | don t say that it twill give satisfaciton to all parties. | y | Governar nt would give entire satisfaction, even with his Honor There will besome disappantnent Col. Swabey attheis bead, . have no want of confidence in caused by every Governm nt. the measures which have been introduced for the set lewent of and UC bebeve that, whea the aware is the Land Cluestion ; a 1 believe lt Was Col, ¥ . made, wiil give general sttisfection. Sweo ey who firsi sugeesie d the appointment of a Commission. i have heard him S-y that the question never wou d be settled r When he wis in the mi- ; antil a Commission was appointed. | jority 1 thought be would have applied himself to the perfect- ing of some measure to seitie the question. are brighter prospects for the tenantry now than there have ever been since hos LLouner had a seat in the Legisiature. [am very sensitive in regard to any resolutions whieh this House may come to which will censure the conduct of His Gerace the Duke of Neweastle. I would vot hesttate to pass Censu'e Upon any Colonial M nester, if bt ought his conduct merited it. 1 think t have given proot of this ov some ocevsions. IT bave not the i fear whch his Llonor Col. Swabey appears to entertain, that the Act, not having received the Royal assen’, will «ffect the giving or vot giving of the award. If the Colonial Minister tonod, when he received and came to examine the Act, that it , Was different from what he suppesed it would be, be was per- fectly right in not presenting it for Her Majes:y’s approval, it is very ‘rue that in a despatch, dated 1660 Jane, 1800, m acawer to a despatch ar ol island, acquainting him of the passing of tins Act, tis Grace urges the necessity of the award b ing made bindiag; dat Uts Grace iad pot that Act before him w en he penned that des- | patch, and evosequentiv was ignorant of its nature 3 and he speaks of it as giving effect to the resolultons of the House ; mittirg it for Her Majesty's approval. It would be quit» pro- | per tnat the award when given should be contirned by the Act. The subjcct before ths Cowmissoners is purely a ques- tien between Gandlord and Teint; and the Tenan'ry are nore interesied tn ut than ever they were in the question of | Escheat. It is pot improbable that ihe Commissioners will have som? d fficulty in co ning to a decision as ‘0 the ex'ent of their powers ; and datiy experience shows Us chat ordinary J do not believe that any oe deiny asked by the minority ; besides be could pomt outin the | people in a short time than his party would have done though | holding the high position waich I have attained in this, | Journals that when fae hoa. members Was im power, the ad-| they had rem vined mM po ver for tea years, ; rr , dress bed more than once been mide the order of tue diy fol-| was in favor of Eschest, and at anotoer t me running it down. | unkuown to you; but if your parasites have kept me hi | ‘This ia the wav he (Mr. Uoles) his carried on, But b think there | from we Lieutenant Governor of ihis | peales and her eyes bound; but thinking that His Grace! arviraiors err, though not froma desire ty do so. Now, while the Duke of Newcastle ought to be commemorated, [ should { do not deudt the good faith of the Colonial Minw'er, yet 1) devide to ploce hiw there in the resemblance of the Goddeags | (hiuk is a matter ot very litle consequence whether tie Act ot Wisdom ; and your honors will bear in mind that Miner. | '* P*ssed before or atter making the award. “Though pot pase- va was Goddess of War as well, so that something masculine i. countenance was deemed by the ancieuts as isting for the statue, so that we should have nothing to do but to re- duce the dimensions of bis Grace's beard to something ap- proaching feminine, or at Jeast hermaphrodite. ‘This statue would greet His Royal Highness Prince Alfred when he setied iuto the harbour. He would probably have first szen those erected to Brocke, Wolfe and Moatealm—heroes in- deed, but fof a warlixe character—whereas my statue would gommemorate a far greater victory, the victory of Peaee. Hon. Me. PALMER—I rise to order. I[ have heard ex- treme language used in debate ; but I never heard the Re-| resentative of Her Majesty sq held up to ridicule in any Jouse of Parliamest. Hon. Col. SWALEY—I deny that I have held any p-rson up to ridicule. I was going to add that the Colama would not be complete unless the corner stone was laid by the bon. wember from Belfast, The dsappointment to the country in not getting the award must be extreme; and I look upon the Commission as dead and gone—as a measure caiculated to tranquilise the public mind. We might leave a matter io dispute to arbitration, and I believe it is the proper way to settle a dispute ; bu’, in this case, it appears that the award would only be cvnditional. The Act to render the award binding will not receive the Royal assent, unless the award gives sutisfaction when it ismade. It was necessary that an act should be passed to render the award of the Commis- sioners binding on both parties; but if this Act is to be sab- sequent to making the award, what will it come to? Now, 1 believe that if the award is favourable to the Proprietors, the Act will be passed, otherwise it will not. The Colonial Minister very properly says that he couid not advise Her Majesty's Government to entertain the proposal, unless the Commissioners were ieft free to entertain any question whieh they might thivk proper. Iv a Despatch from His Grace the Dake of Newcastle, dated 21st March, 1860, His Grace uses these words: ° further into the matter, to be assured that the Teuants will accept, as binding, the decision of the Commissioners” ; and in a Letter from Messrs. Cunard and others, addressed tu the Duke of Neweasile, dated 13th lob., 1860, we find the following—* But we do not thivk that the appointment of Commissioners, in the manner proposed by them, would be the most desirable mode of procedure, as the Jabours of such « Commission would ouly terminate in a Report, which would wot be binding on avy of the parties interested. We beg, therefore, to sug zest, that ius'ead of the mode proposed | by the Louse of Assesubly, three Commissioners, or Referees, should be appointed—-one to be named by Her Majesty, one by the Elouse of Asseably, and one by the Proprietors of Land; and that those Commissioners should have power to enter into all the enquiries that may be neccssary, and to decide upon the difsreut questions which may be brought before them, giving, of course, to the parties interested the opportunity of being heard.” From this it appears that the Duke of Newesstle and the Proprietors were both of the same opinieu. Periaps | may have indulged in a little pleasantry on rising ; but my sincere desire is, that his Honor the Leader of the Governmeut should join in supporting the | I thiuk the Go-) amendment which L aru going to propose. Vernment regrets the state of things; and I also think they | are not in w very favourable position to appear before the | Coustry ; and | am therefore going to offer them an appor- tunity of placing themselyca in a more favourable position. | It is my opinion thut the Goverament cannot stand unaffect- ed by the fate of the Commission; and [ do not think the Commission will submit to make an award under such cir- But it will be necessary, before going | ed up to the present tive, | du not thnk it will influence the Commission in the slightest degree. His Honor Cul. Swabey appears to think that the Commissioners will never make an | award. | think that would be a happy result for some menm- bers of the Leyisia ure; but there is a party who would like ‘te see the count y enjoying pezce and prosperity. L nope his Hunor Col. Swabey belongs to that party; bat, jadging by the tenor of his address to-day, he belungs t+ a party Who have no interest in the Comm sa@on, and whose iuterest it would gut be tu see this vexed question settled. | Hon. C1. SWABEY—I deny it. stead of the one proposed by the Hoa, Col. Swabey, which | siall now take the iiberty of reading, Jt 1s as follows :— * In concurring inthe Act passed last session to give effect (to the Report of the Commiss‘oners to be appoin ed on the Lend Quesiion, the Legislatwe Counei! were guided, ina great measure, by what appeared to have been deemed requisite by ihe Imperial Government from the construction the Ley isiative | Council pat on the Despaten of His Grace the Duke of New- castle, addressed to your Exeeliency, and bearing date the 21st ;Mareh last. We trust, however, that although ihe Act has not yet been submitted to Her Majesty, the award of the Co nmis- ) sioners Will undergo no unnecessary delay ; and when perfected ‘and published will be such asto enable Her Majesty te allow the sume.” To be continued. j Fripay, Feb. 22. On motion of [lon. Col. Gray, Mesers. David Laird and J. D. Gordon were appoinved Reporiers tor the present Session. On motion of Hon. Mr. Haviland, acommi‘tee was appointed to receive tenders for printing 75 beand copies of the Parlia- mentary Reporters, and G6 copies 10 each mewber in sheets ;— Mr. Howat, chairman of Con.mittee. It was resolved that no Vetition praying aid for Roads, | Biiiges, &., be received this Session atter the 13tu of March | Hex. On motion of fTon, Mr. Haviland a committee was appointed | to receive tenders for pomting (le Journals of the iouse. tion, Uol. Gray reamrked tat it had been represented to him, particularly by bon. members trom the couniry, that as in pre- vious sessions, there had generally been a laxuy of at endance } at this tiou-e m the forenoon, on accounted which the basiness | of the country was retirded ; and, as the sittings iu the evening | were to frequently protrad&t” % ~ late hour, :t was highly de- | sirable that some arrancemek” ~~ -nadase irduce punctuality, : ‘ . ; and an attention to susiness at groper hours, Segeis Subject had | been attracting attepiion im tie ne ghbouring Provinces, and n New Brouswick, he beheved, the House edj ura d about mgltfal’. tt was generally admiited wat much ga -lght was | injurionre Pree, and there was uo dott that a great part of |) the work could be done in the forenoon which had ui herio been | dove in the evening. lie then moved the following resolution : | Resolved, That the foilowing rule is beredy adupted and added to he Standing Rules ef tis House, viz: ** The Speaker do take the Chair punctually every moraing at 10 o’e'ock, and that this House at 18 evening sting do rise punctusily at 6 o’e ock.”’ Hon. Mr. Coles said that the reaslation might be a'l very well, but last Session the greatest part of the detention of the | busivess was Cased by the Government holdiog caucus meet- iBgs to drili up their friends to sipport their measures, Ile thought the Louse should adopt no such resoluton. If the metaders from the country were Jesirous tu get speedily through with (he busicess in order that th +y umght ve able to return soon to their homes, they would be more likely to gsin their | point by working tll ten o'clock at aghr, Hon, Mr. Haviland was surprised to hear the remarks of the hon. leader of the Opposition. It was an old but be believed true saving, that ** An old smuggler made the best p eventa- tive officer.”’ Le (ir. Coles.) surely could nor have forgoiten |how he, when in power, detained the Louse by similar meet- | HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. cumstances. 1 do not prejudge them; but if they have to|'#Z8- Sowething of the notuce of the reso ution was required come back here in the Spring, some violence will be done to| eins + Oe ene 60: some good, and if coupled with enother that no me ober should some party. If they are going to take evidence here again, shattered Revenue of this Colouy. Now, Sir, some general | principle should be marked out, It is uot expected that | the Commissiovers will please every body; but there is a. party who would like to see the Country prospering. And it this long agitated question was settled, who knows but his. Honor, the Leader of the Government and myself might be, i seen sitting down on the same side of the House, thereby fulfilling pee * The lamb aud the lion shall sit down | together,’ 1 now beg leave to submit the following amend-. weut to the clause under discussion, which wil! not com. promise the principles of any member of this board :— “We regret tuat Ilis Grace the Duke of Newcastle | should yot have considered it advisable to submit the Act jassed last Session to give effeet to the Report of the Com- Wissioners appointed oa the Lard Question for Her Ma- jesty’s assent, as we dclieve that the Royal confirmation of that important Act would have the effect of giviog public confideuce to any adjustment relative to the rights of Land owners and Tenants in this Island that the Commissioners wizht report.” Hon. Mr. PALMER—I intended to submit an amendment, and shall therefore give my opposiicn ty the amendment pro- posed by his Honor Co!. swavey. ht says ** We regret that the Colonial Minister did not think it advisable to subin t the Att pessed by tois Ley tsiature to give effect to the gward of the Koysl Commession for Hee Majesty's assent. Now, Dir, 1 consider that in giving my support to that amendment | woud be domg a great injustice to the Colonial Minister, It i+, in effect, passing a censure upon His Grace, who ts the first Colonial Minister who bes giver heed to the cause of the Ten- antry of this Island ; and vetore | can support that amendment, ] wust see that His Grace is to blawe. It is true that the Legislature of this Colony ‘passed an Act to give effect to the award of the Commissioners; but the question 18, did the Co- juoial Minister go so fer a8 to say thot 1 stiguld be passed ? } gcknowleuge tuat | had strong megivings as to the propriciv of passmy that Act: and L stated at the time that | conaidered it Geubtful whe:her u was couched in terns which would re ceive the Royal assent; bet L did nut hesitate to vote for jt. t. remaned for the Culonim! Minister to port out any defects jn the Act. Now, it is yery true that m @ despateh, daied 2) March, 1060, lis Gracg points om the vegessity of being sure that the tenaniry would concur iv the award of the Com- mission. ‘Phe despatch was Det very explicit; and the Go- verwmndnt were somewhat at a boss ts know whether fis Grace meant that an Act saculd be passed Oa mere Resolutions of the Arsembly to make tne decision of the Comanssion binding. However, the Government thought if was beter to err on tue the safe side; apd ti Come to tue con dasion that the Act tamer ) [ion. Mr, Thocatoa remarked that tha resolution migit etfect - | speak ne que er (hana quarter of an hour, he would 1 do not kouw what the expense wiil be upon the alseady | speak on one question longer than a q ) support it. lion Mr. Yeo, Mr. Davies, Mr. M’Au'ay, Mr. Sinclair, Mr. ffowat, tfon. Me. Wightman, Mr. Cooper and Mr. tholm spoke briefly in favor of be resolution. On the question being put thereun, there appcared for u— Hons. Gray Havi and, Laird, Perry, K-liy, Yeo and Mesers Beer, J. Yeo, M’Neiil, Howat, Ln, Davies. Sinclair, Sutherland, Doyle, Conroy, Mr. Mec- Aulay, Mon'gomery, Cuoper, Ramsey—20. Aguinst it, (lone, Coles and Thornion—2. Ou motion of Mr. Perry it was resolved that the postage on outgoing letters of hon. members, during the 8. Ssien, shoud be ae Mr. Haviland having moved for a suspension of the sand ng rule in reference to giving notice of introducing bills, presented a Bill to consolidate and amend the Laws relating to grand and petit jurors, which was read a fig. ume, House adj urned til! 3 o'clock. AFTERNOON SITTING. Hon. Col. Gray said that as sums had been yoted last year to the proprietors of the fuur principa! papers im the Island for publishing the debates in whole or in part, perbaps some un- of the Session, in order that these gentlemen might know what course to adopt in yeference to publishing them this year. After some remarks from other hon. members on tue subject, it seewed to be agreed that the House should pursue the same course as lust session, viz, vote a sum to each publisher in pro- portion to tho amount of we proceedings and debates given in his paper. Mr. M’Neill, from the Committee appointed to prepare an Address in answer to His Exceliency’s Speech, preseyted a draft, which was read by the Clerk. Mr. M’Neili moved tat it be mide the Order of the Day for to-morrow. Hor. Mr. Coles objected to the motion, on account of the time being too shor, Several copies of the address vaght to be furnished to members of tue opposition, which would take some time ty prepare, and to make it the order of the day for to-morrow would not be treating the minority favly, as they should have time to weegh some of the subdjee s to which it ad- verted, and ju references ty which the country was avxiously looking for ieformation. Bat if the majority endeavored to Smother joyuivy by precipitanon, on thei would rest the onus of the proceeding. tie thought at least they ought to give the minority to con=ider the Adiresa antii Monday. Mr. M’Auloy remarked that it appeared to take the members of the ming ity a loog ume to collect their scattered thoughts. He thought that if they liad ths evemmg until 11 o’clock, aud 'o-norrow morning, they should be prepared, tor in that bine they inght bave their speeches both made and gowujitted to memory. Hou. Mr. Whelan said that the motion certainly showed a should be passed, Col. Swavey ¢ ios that ate ao tei es Looe ss want of cour.ésy on ihe part ofthe majurity. fie for ius part Wao scudy Cu x uu ine eousid-Tation of the Ad ‘ p lion. Mr. PALMER—~I have prepared an amendment, 'n- | derstanding should be gome to by the tous: af the begisning | ever read one which contained so much debatable matter. Ilon. Mr. Thoraton was also of opinion that more time ehould be given. b : . ’ . }: be made the order of the day fur Monday. lit would reqrire to prepare copies of the Address. pe ali done in aout fifteen minu es tle saw no Occasion for towing that on which it had been presented, Me Daviss was also in favor of tha mot on for to-asrrow, if] they deferred taking up the Address until MOnaday, they would lihen be accused of retarding the bus.ness of the country. Va the motion of amend sat, being put, it was luot 1410 11. | The orig nal motiog was then put and carried, ‘Phe (louse toem adjourned. “ . » Sarunpay, Feb, 22, Mr. Cooper preseiited a petition from certain inhabitents of f.01 36, complaining that oppressive land claimints since the opening of tha Royal Com nisston rs’ Court have acted with } ereater geverily than they formerly did, by exacting tie accru- ing rent, and exiorting bon!s ani securites for arrears, and that the Attorney General has since issued writa for the ¢silec- tion of rents; aid praying that the I] use would direct a retura | or jist to be made of tie writs issued, aid psss ap Act to render said bonds and sec@Pies null and void, and stay the proceed ngs of the Supreme Courl, ando hee courts in the matter; and that au addres: be presented bY the Honse to the Lieut. Governor requesting the dismissal tram ofi:e of Uie Attirmey Geueral. —Read and laid on the table, On m toa of Mr, Howat, 1 Committee was appointed to whom al! p wover petitions should 9e referred. Mr. Davies fron the ©o amitte? to ascertain the progress made in printing the Journsis of the last two Seasons, present- ‘eda report from which it appoired that those of 1359 would be ready on Tuesday next, aud teat those of 1860 were not yetall printed, but would be completed aa soon as poss bie. Qa the four sides of the Pedestal, 1) and { aim not surpreed at the conduct of the Duke in not sud-) ‘Phe report which also contained a recommendation that: tere- after no indulgence be granted by the Louse in reference to its contracts, was adopted. Mr. Howat trom the Committee to receive tenders for print- four had been received, viz: from John Ings —at 28s per sheet, ‘binding Is per copy; frou Joa Ross —at 303 per sheet, for both bound and unvound copizs; from Wiliam Mulon —at 27s 62, binding Is; frou G. VP. thizard—.& 273 64, biuding- js,—aud recommending that Mr. Uizard’s tender be accep'e | — ‘The report was agreed to. Hon. Mr. Haviland fromthe Committee on the printing of the i Journals presented a report stating dial three tenders had been rreeived, viz: from G. ‘f’, Wazird—at 33361 or 325 Gi per ‘sheet as per specimens of paper, binding 43 G1 or 4s Od per copy accordidg to quality ; fromJohn fugs—at 323 Bd, binding 43 Od or 5+, stiching Is G1; from Wil.am Malone—at 343 94, | binding 23 G3, Sitching Is G!,—and recommending that Mr. | Wazaird’s tende? at 323 G1, and 43 Ud be acccepted. —The re-| port was adupted. DEBATE ON TH ADDRE33 IN ANSWER TO THE LIEUT. GOVERNOR'S SPEECU | Ou motion of Mr. McNeill, the ouse resolved itself in'o s Commistar of the whole on the Address 10 803 Wer to the Lieut. | Governor's Speech Mr. Joon Yeo in the “barr. a ‘The first, second and third paragraphs were Jereed to. The fourth having been read — > Hon. Mr. COLES said—we are not altogether surprised to) ° +} - heer that the expeuses ofghe past yearare not met by “le Ke- venue. But, Mr. Chairman, we were not aware last Ce>™on | that two Estates were going to be pu chased by the Government With respect to the Setkirk Estate, we were informed by Hos) ; : . ‘or yn tdle men, as has just been referred to by the hon. mem- Excellency that it was offered io them ata low rate, and the louse, on this account, considered if siuvld be purchased. | though the Land Couaiission was agreed to. Now, though it was stated in the message to the House, that Lord Selkirk bad | offered his Estate to the Government, 1 turns out that the very reverse was the gase—that they had offered to purehase it froin jhim. From a conversstion which | bad with Mr. Douse, J | learoed that it was offered to hun fur £3,000 jess than it was. | purclinsed for by the Government. The offer was made to his (son when in England, andes he could notagree tothe purchase | without his father’s conseat, te returned to the Island for that purp se, and while absent, bord Selkirk received propositions fin the Government. If they, instead of making an offer for ihe Estate, had sent home to ascertaia what Lord Selkirk would have inken jor it, this £3, (Meet have been saved. ‘ihe correspondence with this Proprietor was not subsauted to the Legislaure When the purchase wus proposed, as in sloukd bave been, or probably the measure Would not Gave received the con currence uf the louse. Again, oir, when tlia (louse ex end- jedihe Land Parchise Bai with the view of parchasiag this Estare, it was distinctly laid down that ne higher rat: of ime }est should be paid than what was men ioned in tie Act; and | when E stated at the time, that it was donb ful whetier moaned could be obtained at 5S per c-nt, ob, ibey had mo fears! thei credit si0ad sa bisb every Wie.e, tat ibey Count Ooiain money loany amount but the pour Liberal poy, whea la power, could not geta shilling! The late Goveriment, however, thuugh 89 mseo abused, procure! a the Land Vurcuase Aci, waite | Government have failed, But what have they dose 2 Tiey have vieitted the consutution of tne Colony, by issuing ‘Treasury \s are not autaoriz’d by any lav of the fstand, pursued by Uns great C overaiment, waich we we were a most Jed to believe would never doany wrong. Jam surprised! that the cousuiational lawyer, the hon. member for Georgetown, should have con-ented to such an act. Wiat would have been the result had the opposiiou now cone Into power, and repu-! | diated these Warranis, as they night have done? 1 did not! ‘think His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor wou d have come | down bere whining in the manner be did in hs Speech —* |, | wag found impossibie to negotiate debenture loans at 5 per! cent., while ‘Treasury Warrants yielded 6 per cent.; L was | therefore compelled, in order to weet our engagements, to avatl myself ef the temporary expedient of issuing Warants to the amount required.”’ ‘The other Mstate, Lot 54, the Govern- went Was Ho suhorised to purchase; dat 1 suppose they | /bouzht at to please an ab-entes Proprietor. They must go and | give him £3,000 for the Estate, ond thit too after the gYreuer portion of the good land on the ‘Township was scold. What remains are swamps, or land Oa Which scarcely any hing can live but frogs. No wonder, then, that we hear the webt of tae | Colony is increasing 1 maintain thatif tue Government could not procure mon-y at the rate of imierest specitied ia the Act, | they had no ght to purchase the land atal, They may say, but we have received so much from the sales, on the Selkisk | Ketate, that a portion of the Warrants hing been paid off by tis means; but they bed n> right to appropriate the money thas se- | ce yed to such a purpose, for Warrants when issued should be | receemed in their turn. The expenses of the past year, which | have been increased by the purchase of two Ustates, hove nor | been, we are told, met by the reveme. Wuat, then, will now | ve the public de tof the Colony? We hove heard much about | ‘the extravagance of the late Governmeni—o', they were ruin- wag the couatry! But when we went out of power, the debt | wos only about £39,000; now it wiil be tound to be aver £60.-| : 000. At one Une, under the adainictration of the late Goverue| jment, if the sum paid for land, and the amount of Treasury | Notes afloat were deducted, the debt was not more than £2,000. or £3,000 Vee Government Jast year knew that they were) /going to purchase at least one Bsia e: tiey were aware also) jtnat & reception was to be given ta the Prince of Wales ; | ‘and to meet this and other exira expensivure, they bameeaiaiiiin (the duties from 25 to 100 per cent., and yet we are told that. the expenses have not been met by the revenue, Respecting Lot 54, nothing is said in His Ex:ellency’s Speech ; all the | gierification is about the Selkirk property—* the purchase has | | been attended with the most saustactory results—~t will be a. _celf-sustaiming transaciion.”” But ne expeetatida is eX pressed that Lot 54 will be self-sustaining. Here, then, wesee tue Go-. 'vernment engaged in a land speculation without the probability of 6 being seil-sustaining, and that teo since the Commission | was sppoluted ; and notwithstandiag all that they said about the ioss by the purchase of t @ Worrell Estate. How much a- so have we heard fiom some of t.e aembers of the present Go-| verminent respecting the titles onthe Worrell Estay investigated ; but here they have consented to the purchase of | Kstates, without any investigation of the tulea, | believe sat wae understood with respect to the Seikirk estate that no inves- | tigation should be had; but what excus: can be offered with resasd to Loi 54, the utie to which is known to be very ques-| juenable? I do not thiok the objection to the loyrih para graph lof the Address very important; yet, veteve, Sir, that a bad! ‘course hes been pursued by purchasing the two esiatestove her. | | ‘Phe large sum received from the saies onthe Seikirk estaie, |) we are informed, is aa earnest of the seif-sustainige character of the transaction, From the Worrell estate, in reference to which so much complaint hay beea made, a iarge amount was aise paid in during the frst year. By next session we may hear a different tale about Uke Selkirk estate. The tensats on ‘the estate, it appears froma remark made by the as /yeacon the floor of this Llouse, have ieuntele anid-eabance ee Ad or 15 years, and from the amount of arrears rewyited by tie Government, the statement, L wink, must have been correct. This bemg the case, itis sO Wwonier if they may have been adie to raise suilicient money to pay the deposit of the purchase of their faris 5 but perhaps they will nut be go forward in pay- ing the instalweuts, Tae tenants on the Worreli estate, | adinit, have not the opportguities of those on tie Selkirk pro _perty, who have the suvantage of souguera harbors. But we | caanat Jidge how fhe Selkirk estase is tu pay sntil two or taree yours venoe. By paying $e extra amount, however, re- 3 presen tie Qajat ‘Jnis isihke course e not being | interest was given then the Act authorised ; but we know that} He woved ia emendment that the Address | . | need not say that the Government ta to be blamed for acting | Hoa. Mr. Haviland was astonished to hear the hon, leader of} as tiey have dove, ithe oogposi ion raise objections ow account of tie length of tine | wise. This might | state vree se last session, though it way) ,. . . i‘ | estate was agreed to by this House last session. th . \directed to yourself; aud as L intend to eoatinue-the ing the Parliamentary Reporter, presented a report stating that | avy wt D per Coot. under | | But now we come tothe real pita of the u.tter—the right of | | which proceeding | do not hesiiate ts denominite a most dis-| gt that time Ler low price paid for by the Government, there is every prospect | Township to the Government about 2s, 141. an acre, thus mok- quired for the purchase of bwo eutstes, together wita the tizh- er rate of interest on tae whe, or £300 a year have a money now can be obiained only ata higher mie. I scarcely) ABERDUMBEE WILNOCK, E3Q., TO HIS Exam, ever paid so high discount as [ have done this lest year. LENCY THE LIEUT. GOV WROR—GREETINE They could nit obtain the money other- | No. 1, And see what they are doing for tae country. ‘They | ene - le have given up a large amount of back rent t» the people on | Although not having the pleasure of a personal ' “at x the Selkirk estit:. The Government awe dove more for the |ance with your Kxeelleucy, yet [ flatter myself Atone time he) munity, as conservator of the Tenants’ rights, ear | out of sight of your Excellency, | am determined ¢ Hon. Mr. WIGHT MAN.—The purchase of the Selkirk) 19 jonoor do 8», a8 my correspondence shall fa’ futur have beea uader the impression that it was offered to the Go- | ‘vernment. We all ene the terms were very low, bur | for some weeks to come, L have, for the greater con ' when we hear to-day that it probibly coald have been procur- of reference, commenced the series with the unit, ag you ed for £3000 less, We have cause to regr: t. if such be the case, observe above. And in the first place, i am desirggs tg |that this amount was not saved. ‘The rate at which the pro- | myself right with your Kxcelleney, that [ detest and ¢ perly was purchased, however, must be admitted to have been | the application of low epithets, while I equally esche very reasonable ; anc I believe tie people on the esiare—as I personalities as to your Excelieney’s antecedexts, have met some ot “oe at publes. meetings, wT rire their ||, thirty nine-pounders,” or * six-pounders,” or “ Spas Opimicas—are well satisfied with the terms at which they are | ery : sae . | privileged to convert their leasehold into freeholds, I support- | Modis eee 0a oo es. oe i 2 > . . ¥ ; ,ed the measure for the purchase of tie Seikirk estate, and Jo ‘ / “not regret having done so. L wish we could obtain more at the | by a dolt, or by a geutieman of your high hereditary de: ‘same price. With respect 10 Lot 54,43 a higher eum than | and chivalry io the army, as well as your “ long parliamenta (2341. stg. an acre was paid fori, and as the purchase was | experience 3; and L trust your Excelleney will believe nyt authorized by this House, 1 consid r toe Government had | that what I have to say, as an imperative duty, is (no right to pursue tie course which they did. Reference has | against your Government, and that 1 feel great regret at been ame the Worrell ease, and much, va have hesrd|vortgnate postion in Which Jout present eonttala ing \ Toe Goverument cou d not treat with the owner of the ore have neat: I ee your Excellency estate himself, and they were unable to prevent a midéle party | read the story of the would be” limner who, after'c ie from stepp:ny in, With whom they had to ariange the purchase | or painting the representation of a certain “ long -ea on the best ters they could obtain, though at a considerable animal, found it necessary—lor the sake of enlighteni lo-s to the Colony compared with what it would have bees bad uninitiated—to write underveath, “ this is an Ass.” “* the owner himself being wiling to teeat with the Gove umeut, L think the same rule ought to have been adopted by your | Bat | believe, notwithstanding ali that hes hee " seid reopecting | Executive advisors with sogatd i: Tain Beaneme.>: ie the price paid for that estate by the aes near aurainaiietie — 1 | so compebesat with the *.en-Parllassedtine” urine sina manner in which it was afterwards managed, that the loss the : ; g | Colony will sustain by the property will be trifling, as large | Wa0 has now the honour of addressing you, who knows sums bave been paid in frou it at different tines. 1 will cheer- under Responsible Government it is your Exceilency’s fully assist the Government in any measure to author ze the | stitutional advisers who make and write Tue Srrecn, suc purchase of more land, ifitcan be obsaimed ut the same raie a3! precaution would be unnecessary ; but I very much fear wi that paid for the Selkirk property. : : | the bulk of the peop'e io general it will be called “ the & flon. Col. GRAY.—I would not have risen so early in the | cernor’s Specch ;” and that is the. reason that 1. Sasha | discussion were it not to correct the statemens of the hon. |. J fo ae SEN shat ae t leader of the Opposition. ‘There is something for the people | '9'@PS*ly Tor your uxceliency, that any, even the comma \of the country to depend on besides his acsertions. He says | sehool-hoy in the country, should tink for a moment t he Was not aware two estates were going 10 be purchased by | your Excellency should be guilty of so grossly ** murda the Governwent—true—nor was 1; bet a long time has elyps- | the Queen's English,” as would appear by that extraordi led since the rising of the Louse last session. Wai respect to }doevment, were your I xcelleney supposed to be the . the justice of the proceeding, it appears that the Government | of jt, And, indeed, I am free to acknowledge, that for the | were authorized to purchase more jand than the Seikik estate | if the incoming amount warranted theminso doing. The hon. member referred to soO.netinng told hem by a gentleman, an- oiber hon. member of this House, who is not yet in bis place, a | : “tes < : , _circumstence which | very much regret. Le says teis gentle- / emanated from your Excellency’s classic pen, I should require ; man informed him that the Selkirk property was offered to his | to see it labeiled in some well-kaewn hand-writing underneath, son for £3000 lesa thaa was paid for it by the Government. | stafing that it was so. I would therefore most earn | But mere assertion is nothing without proof. _past quarter of a century which I have been in this © 'L never saw before such a ¢hing in the shape of a Governor | acre was greed to by him solely on account of representations | fini at in oneot my former communications, which —th sent home to him from his own tenantry ; and d tuink the hon. ? | leader of the Opposition, and the yentleman who, he states gave | not directed personally to 7m Eexcelleney—I bave no ‘fim this information, must be under some misapprehension, for | YOu read, | cautioned your Excellency against the machina {cannot believe that that distinguished nobleman would be guilty of double dealing. But even wore it the case, I sub nit io hon. members on both sides of the Hoase, if they would not rather see £3000 placed against tho Colony taan ‘hat the estaie | Governur Sir D. Daly, and who no doubt will be emp! , b ‘assed ji sessik ) ? le | . > -\ ivhould have passed ino the pos ession of Mr. Douse? We against your Excellency, if need be, hereafter. a? all aware what bas been lost to the conntry by the action ver for Af2rray Harbor. I aim not dyo-ed to atiach biame jo | Tetors In Fogland to foster and protect their (rsu the Jate Guvorauent for purchasing the Worrell estate, though | landed estates,” as they termed them, in this Isiaud, you i aay regret that & Was not obtained on more favorabdie terms. | were no doubt favoured, ere you left England, with a famous { have, however, 19 inform this hon. House that we did no ‘pamphlet written, or at least subserjbed by one * Wm, I, purchase the Selkirk ‘ae at 2s. 4d. an acre, but ata leas sum. | Pope, Esqr., Barrister at Law;” it is entiled © 2. EB. Islet Hoa, Mr. WHELAN,— Uow much less ? _ {under R-sponsible Government,” and whieh, F need searcely Ion. Col. GRAY.—I wilt Sefore f conclude state how much | i foe your Uxeelloney, is a tissue of abwse from beginning less fur the infurma‘ion of Loa, a, uber. Last year when we 'to end of ihe walortunate ‘Temantry, and all those who : f of shine ‘eset dSe kirk coud be obtain were info wed ihat ihe es a’es of Lu. 1 8e ce ee : . " ed atthe low figure of Os. 4d. an ac, %, Hew) standing tus path sed with them, or who felt for th: slavery in whieh t At page 220f that pame : : ees ee House hal agreed tothe appiomment ot . Land Commssisn | sere held by ths lan! claimants, es + ~ &) a , iam i , ws we could s:arcely cx ee that it would be “be means of pro- phiet Mr. Pope says * When that grest man, Ei. . ee hn on 4 .-* : . curng toe 1nd on more favorable tents. Order that ibe; Borke, ple ded ut the bar of the House of Lort?s, on bel Government int eat bo? ina postion oe Mier, } amre-tof the Couunons of England, against @ Governor of Indir . . " ‘ 7 daced a inevsure toex end the Land Purchase lion. schem>. Hos. Col. GRAY.—Tue Lean Ball T consi sche Donan ee ’ oie | She was charged web inmnarenaline oflebves, it Was complai : Mr. JES; be Bill which you c Oy tie acest. ~* Opprobs ious Names upd sevrrilous invees lorela vWwionary \iives were barted a be: ny y. abswer rg burh | de-udt send ‘ect eb ens ohinenena na es Sane Whenever ten are oppressed woes they onght te be Bre Purchase Bui as each, Wen Lord Selkirk communicate (0 | We call it tyranny; whenever goods wre tuken by violewe@ tie Leeur. Governer la-t year trat ha was willing to depose « || from the po-sessor, we eall it robbery, awl the per-on wie ig estaes, the quantity of iand ments nh id was $2,000 acres, !,. Ses it we eall a rodtes,”’ ow, 4 yoar Bxov.leuex woud and the rate 28. 41. 8 erling sa ar. Bat it subsequently ap- enqu."e of sach ay asthoriiy os Eduamd Bavke what he peated that his Loriship held 62,000 reres 5 and in coasiders- would , U the taking ef siomy from a Burk without being {io thal we sh wid give hi a £200) do wa ia cash, aad 29 . om “ae to nat m Oe fas 3 Hea i aken * the remainder in debemivresat five per cent, he wsreed to dis- | Fe OF Wh. Rg to poy tt eee 1 Inovey were ts ns pose of lus whale es a es fur LOUIS 09. bemg £063 1590 less“ violence,” 5 hae ee bp sndorsement, "ort than 23. 4i. an acre, oc at ihe ae ot B+, IAL. per acre. Atter “false pretences. woud he met eal ir + robbery.” ati the land was sirveyed if was ascertaineu cuece Were SQ acres!) would ie wot cai] the person who takes ta solder?" Bar over and above te 62,009, ter whch his 1 irdsisip ree ved without consulting the works ef Eimund Berke, your Excel- “t. 4d. an Bore, being oe? the v- ry large sum of £0 7 3 leney night geta proper devil sition on the subject from dulge eee ane ee wege “Ce. Os tt caatd we be Cbeinedue Wi) bol. Seat tee <i ee happen te agree wi. bentures bearing five per cent interest, Treasury Warrants weie | 7, ‘ es ane Se * issued, Lit 54 crst £2000, for which amount warrants were Burke in the definition, 1 leave your Excellency to judge for also issued, being in all £4060; but as about £4958 of the yourself of those who would eploy such a character, and warrants have beeu redeemed, the amount now oui is but little Got only employ bim but keep him employed, although suid more than £2000, and the extra expense of the Colony Uus year to have been properly designated and recognised aud held io of account of the higher rate of imeres: will on'y be about £90. | scorn as such by your predecessor in office. 7 ‘ . the Government tu accede to arise in the rate of interes We! Llow ous a Excel ee es thes people We beliews ‘ound that we could not meet our engavements, us it was ime} 7 when 7 iP tie oN the Tenants riend, while 7 possivle to negotinie deben‘ures at five per cent, while ‘Trea- | @°@ Surrounded aud udvised by the Land claimants and their sury Warrants were bearing six per cent, and though there was “0lortous abettors aud advocates? And if the people be Speech ; und hence before I could be made believe it to have i! t We lave the as- adyiso your Kxcellency to write underneath the Speech, ere | surance of Lord S-lkirk that the very low sum of 2s 4/ stg. au \is gets publicity, ** This is the abortion of my Ministry.” a tions of the “old Compact,” by whom you are surzouaded, — relative to forcing on you a Colonial Secretary who wes /retained by them to blackguard our Jate worthy Lieu:enant_ As your Excellency was particularly selected by the Pro. os Sie, ey wt € . Fa e ann oe 4 i ’ A no special evactnent authorizing the issue, were we to allow |“ oppressed by those who ought to protect them,” then, te Opportunity of purchasing the land t) sip frou our grasp? according to tue definition above cited, will they pot be ealled: If we had permted the estates at so low a price, to pass into | ¢yrants ?” an application which [ am uuwilling to designate other hands, the members of the Opposition, | have no doubt, | your Exceileucy by; but which, | mach fear, cannot be long: would have been joud in their denuncisions of the timidity e' | Syoided. while your Excelieucy is hampered by such greedy the Government. Our action in the case, I feel assured, will Sioa saci jing cormorants us at present controul your execu- receive the approbation of the people generaliy throughout the | ©. & ; f Ty i P } ‘ Excel! ~ : Colony. Bat what did the miuority do wh le tw power? While) uve acts. ae Gey: Were eran seen a 7 - yt debenta e@ !uans were bearing five per cent interest, they raised eXPression, last year, the Speech at the opening of Por- that on Tieasury warrams to six per cent, thus vendering it im- | liament, to a notorious and palpable falsehood, by saying possivle to negovime debentures excep at # large discoun' ; that Her Majesty received very gr sciously an address whicl Majesty had neither seen nor heard of, eee The hon, menber oe to the geen your Excellency should be on your guard against. And ere of Lo y Aud said something in reference io frogs. resided | el ; My ty a at periods during several years in France, 8 country in which | i eae wi —_ acrum penmeacs, : hope to be able — frogs are very numerons, and [ never understood them to be s> vines yout xeellency that © houesty is the best policy, and obNOXi0US as the hon. member appears to believe. ‘There may | that until your Excellency will dis-olve the A-semb:y and ve a few frogs in the place, but that 1s bothing aga nst the coun- | give the clectors an opportunity of electing your advisers, ia ry. There are here, however, plenty of wolves in sheep’s| whom they cau place confileace, every act of your Excel- withing, from which more is to be feared than from those harm- llency’s administration will sink lower and lower ia public less Lite animals. ‘be hon, member also referred to Escheat /estimation, and may at last involve your Excellency in a —a word of witch we oughtto be beartily ared—and censu-ed |)... ie oe : has some members of the Government, because they had consented | labyrinth of — ricable confusion, it not Jo utter ruin; 10 save you from which is the object of, to the purchase of the estates wihoet anu investigation of the , . . titles. ‘There was the sime examination 10:0 the t ties of the | Your Excellency’s faithful friend, land purchased by us, es was in the case of the Worrell estate. ABERDUMBEE WILHOCK, A greater blow was never given io Escheat than when the hon. the leader of the Opposiion and his frencs passed the land pur- “ Chase Will, At this time of day itis a mere phantom to talk of | For tue Examtven. ones ie also men ee tue effect that ume will TO HIS EXCELLENCY GEORGE prove that the purchase of the Seikick property will not be a} IT QOVERN better paying specu ation thin the Worrell tn But by his | LIEUT. GOVERNOR, &c. &e, own showing there are better harbors ou the South side of the! Puease Your Excensency— Islaud than i the eastward, aud with this advan aze, and the | Your reply to the address presented to you, and signed by (hat it will prove seli-sustaining. Wah respect to his insinua- | 2 2umber of the inbabitants of Belfast, as published in several tion that beciuse Lot 54 was not aljuded to im His Exceilency’s | Of the newspapers of this city, shows definitely that you have speech, itis likely tie Government have found it to be a losing cast off the non-political interference of Her Majesty’s Re- Gansaction, T may state that there has not bees time for any | presentative, and bave openly eatered upon the political sales to be effected; as the Commissioners sppointed ta value the land have not yet performed that duty. ‘The bon. member tor Murray Harbor said he did not think the Government were Stage, us a decided partizan polititian, and a public advocate of the one-sided policy and politics of your cee — art oe? If the Royal Lustructious, which you bave for your guid- Warranied lu purchasing t € i ‘ : seen siibeed tals Pe mye ar “ une ve erin. ‘ance and direction, as the Lieut, Governor of this Colony, ivf that hon, gentleman that the sum of £963 15 Osaved in Permit your publie undisguised championship of the party fae purchase of the S-ikirk estate by tue reduction his Lordship poliey of your Executive Council, and sanction your open was pleased to imrke, when deducied from the extra amount, | personal meddling, and wading in the slough of the tumults over 28. 44. an were paid for Lot 54, leaves tue cost of the | and distractions o! politica! feuds and partizan conflicts, thea L am persuaded that yonr Excellency is privileged and at liberty to accept and hold a seat im either branch of the Legislature, : Your antecedents in the [ouse of Commons, (now deprived of your light), flatteringly uoticed by Messrs. Roebuck, Williams, aod other members of the Imperial Parliament, a led by the inimitable “ Pancb,” and recorded by the A Gigantic Prosecr.—It is said that the Emperor Na- | stalwart pea of the powerful Huitor of the London * Times,” polesy has given his sanction to the project of building a) recomuttnd you to universa) admiration as a Legislator, railway between Calais aud Dover. ‘I'his uuderstanding, pro- specially adapted by your luminous statesmanly talent, and bably the most stupendous ia the history of the world, con- templates the tunnelling of the British channel between the | defend the rights, the liberties and privileges o) any people points above named—a distance of nineteen miles. It is|as their Representative in the F British iniegded, we believe, to build a namber of stations or islands Colouy. Lu this appreciation of a : a, ‘3 aay along the route. ‘T'ne bed of the channel along the proposed | fications, and in view of yom rege segs z route has been ascertained to be of solid rock, which will the ranks of a brigade, we partiyeaily tn edvencs render the proposed tuauel, when completed, impervious to| ard assux*! ine aad sing J Alem GO water. Coutr.ciors are busy Preparing the estimates of the siructioas 10 pr an suopert of tog thatsum the average price of all tue iaud purcuased. It was | vG Cais secount that the Government agreed to tie purctiase ot Lot 54. Lue Comm ttze then rose,and the Chairman reported pro- gress. Adjourned unt 13 o’clok. (To be continued ) ae i ee DUNDAS, ESQ.,. 4 huwaue six-pounder sympathies, to be eptrusted with, aod to, a