(Continued from e‘... n. I lerae acreage in lfalwiue Bey?‘ andthercarsabcutoilmoaoresin Malpeque Bay, including the mud bottoms as wall as the nard bot- “By 1915 some disease occurred in the Malpeque Bay areas, evident- 11 from the importationoi oysters from the New England States for flanting purposes, and by 101'! there was not a single live oyster that you could find anywhere unless "; was at the headwaters of the rivers. 1mm 101'! until 1900 at least, nobody could secure, or did secure, any oysters in UflPNlle 36!. . Attempts At Rehabilitation "f might say that as one-quarter owner in that original oyster area secured in 1871 and 1812 by Mr. Pope, we made attempts at different times to introduce oysters, with the result that the oysters would live overaperiodofperhapsfivecrsix months, and then die. That was the situation until 1020, when under a permit from the Do- minion Department o1 Fisherissl secured on the south coast oi. the Island a number of barrels of oy- sters and planted them on our areas, andby 1027 or liifiiwebcgsn toget lust a few native oysters In 1024, the Department cf Fisher-l’: had de- cided that they would make an st- lempt to bring back the oyster areas of that province and for that pur- ges they submitted an agreement the Stewart Government. I have the agreement her, and it is prac- tically the same agreement that my hon. friends signed. There was just one clause, with regard to reserva- tion of areas for mussel mud pur- poses, that seems to have been add- in the latter agreement. At any r ... the late Hon. Mr. Stewart ra- fuscd to sign the ‘ I rs- member him calling -me over to dis- cuss it. I told him there were no oysters there at that time, and he declared there was not sufficient safeguard in the speement for the fishermen, and he would not sign it lmder those conditions. “Our friends opposite came into wer in 1927, and on Feb. 2'1, i028. ey signed this agreement. But I believe the Junior member from Szmmeirsids (Dr. MacNeill) was a mber o; His MaJeatyZs Executive Council at that time and his col- agues also sat around the Council rd. Here is the aINemmt that they signed, and which two rem - utter-wards they tried to tell the peo- ic of ufu country they never served to. Because here, right in the 081N- mui b he provision for the leas- hg by lie Dominion t d Ins oyster areas of the h-ovince.’ (Applause). , “I have hare, also, the niiflllbd of Council, dated Rb. 1'I, 102B, which m passed by my hon. friends, and which reads as fohows: roves-m auras-numeral: ro noemnou oova-amvrswr . _,,--.__. "The Council having had uu-i ion the advblill- a a H. E Iae Ipdesdi Government ca its partmustmakeallnecessarysur- veys and ascertain the "sf all live oyster beds and also sllarcssnotproducing . the extent of areas that should be reservedf mussel mud. That our government. ‘mat the Gov- ‘ erumeut oi Canada ahnll have the control and tion oi , the oyster beds, and will develop , sud improve TIIMOI‘ YEARS. Ivreh as!"- mcut to embrace such other terms and conditions as are properly Incidental thereto h order to mieguard the hieavest of our oyster fishermen." "Is there any reservation there. with respect to leasing the beds?” in. sharp asked, amid applause. Mr. lea: "That'i.g not all the agreement." HISTORIC DOCUMENT Hon. Mr. Sharp: ‘That la the or- "ier in Council. authorising the agreement that was lined ten days later. on Fob. l1. 1038 by my hon- Iriends. That will go down in his- lory as long as the Executive Conn- reeords arc kept. showing that on forever the rights i | i ). m. Isa: “Not in the leasing; the leasing is reserved." Ion. Mr. Sharp: "Not to Iflnt g of the oystI areas EXCEPT » WAY 01" LIASI F03 A ram CI BARS’. that was the reserva- you made." (Appirvse). I know is pimiahmobt. but my hon wllljusirbavstctskstAnd Iligfilvllfliedfldlgfflil in (Loud Conservative Applause). "In these days," continued Mr , iepresen tives of the Maritime Pnvinoes have been g0- ilig in frequent delegations to Ot- tswa to fight our claims on the basis that cur natural resources have been traded away tc Western When lands of the Hud- son Bay Company have been out to Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Al- berta and the boundaries of Quebec and Ontario have been extended north te the Arctic Circle. all of which in the years gone by when we vmic one of the five provinces of Canada, we had an equity in. which was transferred without any con- sideration or consultation with us in connection with the matter. Now here is an oocesicnon which the government of this Pwvilm hi" given sway our own his. w! asked for hmlllofld inflreturn‘, “Cal keep as crm you yore doing”: that. in effect. is gu that they asked for. so far ll the fisher-men's rirbis II ref cll which I have read. to teutofnroasthatshouldberc- served for mussel mud.” But one!) the survey is made, once the mud areas are for the farmcrl. then the Government of this Pro- vince. so far as havinl‘ lllylhllll whatever to any in the matter. ll out of the picture. “Tr survey of the Malpeque Bay area was made in the summer 01 1M8 by the federal engineers. l-lere I have a plan of pert of the Mal- pequo Bay area. It is divided into ~" gnd " -- each one marked on the plan. Malpoqlle Bay was surveyed in this way from gbbm to shore, and when that was done and the necessary mud areas were reserved for the farmers. the Government ceased to have any- thing whatever to do with those areas." (Applause). ANSWERS CRITICISM “I have been blamed. as one of the members of the Stewart Gov- eminent, for being a party W this gurvgy, and I believe an indigna- tion meeting was held at Conway when I was not present. and some b1 the people were deeply sorry for ‘poor Sharp.’ In fact I believe the member from O'I..eary (Mr. Den- nis) went so far as to say W“ the only twp representatives of the Stevart Government present at the time our oyster areas were leased were "Mr. Stewart and Mr. Sharp. and Mr. Stewart being dead nat- umny w, Sharp's statement would have to be taken with a. grain of salt.” (Laughter). m, gpeaknr, you don't have in take my statement with ‘a grain of salt.’ At the meeting held in 1031 there were seven persons pres- en-t. The rxvvty Minister oi Fish- eries, Mr. Ilmmd, never discussed with a ginrlo individual, the rela- tive merits of leasing. What he di‘. was to tell us the areas he 111N110- ed to lease. He said “we are going to lease at first five and one-half acres in order that the fishermen and the farmers living near the shore will get the first 009019111- ity. We are going to keep At out of the companies’ hands, as it was un- der the provincial leasing pro- gramme. I-"ive. and one-half acres are all any one individual can get. We are going to cha 1e 01.00 be)‘ sere per year for the firs-t three years. After the/t we are going ‘w have so much per barrel. in be ar- ranged later, rental paid on the product of the beds." That was Mr. Fund's statement. and, as I stated. there were seven present at that meeting. including the Parliamentary reuresentativm for Queens County. I have a latter from hkn today stating last i= exactly the Dominion Government’. g. that the only res- ervation made in Number I agree- ment of February mos is with re- spect to the survey of the areas. ‘If you went, for example, to Rusticc, Savage Harbor, or Pownai, where the areas have not been sur- veyed, you could make application for a~ piece of ground. The area you apply for must be surveyed, be- cause otherwise they have no chance of checking up on it. Then you apply for 1 subsection 8, or whatever the numbers may be ycu lease the arezs through tin Dcm"1ion Government. This Provmce has nothing further to do with it. Once the survey is made, the thing is finished. That i; the story. "hlicre than that, I made it my business to get the interpretation of several lawyus in connection with this matter, and I could read your m. Iibimdfs report, which bears out exactly what I say. I stated that they never Ilillitlsd thelmsirugoftheoyateraleasof the Province and that the Ibd- 3E nnzgzrsgo ‘i? giillrl-il.‘ .3 CROCODILE TEARS "I may say. with regard to the Conway meeting." Mr. sharp con- tinued unid further applause, "that B 11116 number "of Liberal li- ticisns were present, including the member from O'Lea.ry. Iewyers, doctors, druggista-some of them who had never been near enough to salt water to wash their first. in the last twenty years-were there. They were all "sorry for. Sharp." There were wonderful rumors in NflrdtotheninnbercfacresI had secured. One fellow said I had sot 160 acres of the best beds in the Bay. Another I had obtained leases for every member of my family and even some of my nieces. The meeting was held in a district where I had got eighty per cent of my support. and “poor Sharp” wasn't there. He was on one of those "picnics" te Ottawa at the time. on business nnecicd with the unemployment interests oil-his Province: so he couldn't answer the criticism at the t, nway meet- ing, and he is taking the opportun- ity of doing it here, today." (Ap- piause). "What I did was to secure five and one-half acres immedktcly adjoining the old lease secured in 1872. There was no member of my family that I know of, who sc- oured any acres except one son who has an equal acreagein a. differ- ent part of the district. That is the extent of participation in the leasing policy, about which so much was said at the Conway meeting. "I think, Mr. Speaker, thatl have proved to the satisfaction of this House and the people of this Pro- vince that we never had anything to do with the leasing cf the mud areas, the oyster areas, or any other areas on the shore front around ‘this province. in any way, shape or form." (Applause). Mr. Campbell's Attitude "We get back now to the state- ment mdde by the leader of the Opposition at that Board of Trade, meeting to which I have referred. I think his memory was a little better them the memory of thei members from Surnmcrside, both senior and junior, and also the member from Ollerify- 5° f" l5 the Tigfiish member (Mr. T. A. Campbell) is ooncemed, I must say that he has a. legal mind, and he never had any intention cf com- mitting hirnself as to whether P"- mission had to be secured from the Provincial Government. I never heard him‘ make any statement of that kind. What he did suggest, was that the whoiething might be ultra vires. If so, that is the worst con- demnation that was ever levelled against n Liberal government tran- aaction in this Province at any time since responsible government was first established. What will it mean to the two hundred lease holders who took over those leases imgood fall-h. iilvifll 0!- pmded thousands of dollars in or- der to bring those arms Into culti- vation, if this agreement, 81KB"! after due consideration by the Saunders-lea Government, proves ultra vii-es!” (Applause). Mr. Campbell: “The Dominion Government surely wouldn't tab“? my suggestion." Hon. w. Sharp: "r nurse-st that you were too wise to commit yourself, but the medics-legal light from Bummerside didn't make any bones about it. The junior member from that district (Dr. MIONGiH) said he went to Malpeque Bay to see a sick man. When he waited on him the man couldn't pay his bill. and my hon. friend surgested that he got him a half barrel of oysters instead, Tm man said he could not do it until the tide was low, as all the were leased and he couldn't run any oysters- Dr. Macfleill‘; Responsibility "I am sorry the hon. member is not in his seat. because I intended to suggest that on that occasion he must have had a twinge of con- science. He sat around this Coun- cil Board seven years ago. and the Act which made that thing possible. It would be up to him. surely, to make some restitu- tion to that poor patient of his. It is only right that a man in his fin- ancial position should do so. He should at least have shown his sorrow anti repentance for havin! put thrcufrh sum a. transaction- One thing he might do, is done-ls that farm which he once held at Wlnchesters CHIN?- Whlch flit! 011i mu» Malricquc any. and brill a fisher-men's hospital on it. so that all the wives and sons and (180811- tcrs of fishermen who might be- come sick. could get free medical service". (Laughter). "I would suz" gest further that he donate the profits he received from that c78- ter company he secured in front cf that cape, as a. fund to carry the hospital on. Hr: miirht put a light on wp o; m; hospital, so that it would guide the iishermerrs ships to pOfl’. slid seeing it, they would know that all was well. 111d "W? their wives and familfcs were being looked after while they We" "NY- Tben, when my hon. friend passes on, a headstone could be erected to his memory, inscribed with the words: "He was c good doom’; leave the rest to Providence." Not A Political Issue & much for the criticism to which this Govemment has been mbjgmq h, 1,119 gentlemen who tllrnselvea were the responsible parties to the cysts: leasing lime- mcnt. Frankly, I d: not think my hon. friends have anythifll W 5° afraid of, they made a bargain with the Dominion Government at a time when there were no oysters in Malpeque Bay. 'f'hexc are no 0y!- ters there yet except in the areas first are be cultivated by i81- vate individ or by theaioiosic- al Board of Canada." m. Ies: “Will my hon. friend pennit l" question?" Hull. __ THE CZHARLQTTETOWN GUARDIAN question-J mfimmw‘ i“.‘i"i".."fiil° “S” are and should have the support _ ~» "P cfovarymauinthlsprevineerc- _,,’j,‘,{f.'f "i “m? "imw krtgg$vr$cgerevvvg%iiéuw gush; use political atfliation, m‘, ‘mam, w“ ,, (‘mum “he 0“- or who was responsible for the , y’ ' ‘ Mr. Lea: “I am asking what, in m? hm M8116‘! Opinion; the con- dition of that bay would be. if protection hadn't been given and the Government form of cultiva- 0111)‘ ly or not. I have always believed insayingiustwhatfmean. In 1028 the survey was made. In 1029 amanbythenameofDodgewas brought here by the Federal De- partment te examine into the areas. Prior to that, the oyster on‘!!! bad dropped from 48,000 to less than 12,000 barrels in the whole Province, 5,000 or 0,000 of which was coming from the West and East rivers, so that we were only getting about 4.000 barrels. from Malpeque Bay. rim srauvrsn MENACE ‘The disease, of course, was rc- spcnsibls for a big part oi that decrease, but we had another en- Bmy. the starfish. ‘This fish ap- Pvored in "Malpeque Bay about 40 y!!!" H80. and since that time there has been a gradual decrease in reproduction of oysters in the Bay. Lobster fishing had been al- lowed in the Bay, with the result that millions of starfish had grown up there. They covered practically the whole of the Bay. The only- blace where there are no starfish today is at the heads of rivers or in close to the shore where the water warms up in the summer season. The result is that the only oysters that are coming beek to- day under natural conditions are the oysters at the heads of the Grand River and Bideford River, and perhaps a few places nearer shore- In the middle of the Bay there is no reproduction whatever, on account of the starfish. "I have a report on the catch of starfish, and I may say that the Biological Boa-rd attempted to fight this pest. They caught as many ‘as 10,000 starfish a. day. They were only able to hold down the particular areas where they were working, and during last year Dr. Needler has given the thing up entirely. His idea. now is to grow oysters at the heads of the rivers with ordinary paper cartons dipped in a solution of cement and lime, and either keep those oysters for fifteen months close in-shore where the starfish can- not get them, or grow them under wire. After the oyster has grown to one and a half inches it is reasonably immune, because the starfish itself is not over one and three-quarters inches in diameter, and they cannot dc the same dam- age in that case as they can to in- fan: oysters. ‘ma: ONLY couasr: "In our experiments we took down the makings of. hund- reds of oysters from the heads of rivers, only t0 find everything cleaned up the following year. We have quite a number next year thatwere wintered in wire crates. We hope to keep them there until next fall at least ,and if they reach one and a half inches in diamete we,wi1l spread them out. If that is not satisfactory, how are you going to bring back the oysters in the Bay? Either the Dominion Gov ment must take the re- bility and catch those oys- ters, ow them to a size that they ~will immune from starfish. and then Lplant them in the Bay, or they ust drag the Bay sufficient- ly togct rid of the starfish pest. That seems to be ‘an impossible task; at any rate, Dr. Needler has had one boat fishing all the time without making any ,.nessicn on the starfish in a small area. umlervthe conditions I have de- scribed. If the Government can be persuaded to do first. and leave the ,, ‘ers until there is a suffi- cient quantity before allowing fishermen to come in, it will be all right. But where the late Lib- eral Government fell down in making the agreement with the Dominion Government, was in ne- glecting te see that the small holder should have his area sur- veyed without any cost. The junior member from Summerside stated the cost was $100. It does not cost that much, but it costs money, and if my hon. friends had had the interests of the poor fishermen at heart they would have seen that he was relieved of this financial ob- ligation. Afterwards, when he be- came a producer, a certain amount of that money should have gone into the coffers of the Provincial Government, But my hon, friends did not see to that either. They looked after the mud areas; but the fisherman was left out of the picture. And the result is that he has got to pay for the survey and put down his cement markers himself." (Applause). WHY THE AGITATION? Mr. IePage: "Does my hon. friend believe that the Dominion Government is not interested in production in those beds at the present time." Hon. w. Sharp: "That is exact- present time. They are catching thcapatandsellingatccsttothe lease holders; who can only get five and one-half acres each, that is all. I believe the Dominion Gov- ernment is doing all right. But why this political agitation? A Member: “They are after Sharp!" (laughter). Hon. m. Sh : "That's the answsrJguesaIhspeIhavedis- posed of that matter for all time." ). "I may say that the nt is expending year for leasing purposes, after four years of marketed 00 (Apple Federal 012,000 a and last w. stun: "Y ll". us: "ill h lulled The only way is to grow the oysters e1 which left Malpeque Bay arcs for Mosley River.) This is s total of 833 barrels and includes 81% bar- rels frcm Grand River, the re- mainder being from Bideford Riv- er. Oysters sold to Iioxley River lessees amounted to 113 barrels. This makes a total of 936 barrels which left the Malpeque area, Bideiord River, Trout River and the Narrows, “The total cost you will find in the Dominion Estimates. I figure that we sold about 02,500 worth of oysters there this year. There is a total grant, as I said. of 012,000 a year, and tigers are between 20 and 80 men employed. I know a man from Grand River who has gone into the oyster business with the idea of making it a success. Last year he went up to Bidsford River and put down his gear, and he has caught the makings of a. thousand barrels of oysters when they grow up. Forty-eight men, succeeding in that way, would have the production back to what it was in i887. ‘Illat man is em- ploying quite a number of men in addition to the twenty or thirty employed at the Biological Sta- ruruna raosracrs " “Every person who tries to de- velop an area is employing men, and I believe that in four or five years there will be more fishermen employed in the industry than at any time in the past. 'I'hat is my personal opinion, and I believe I am not far astray, as I have been identified with the oyster business since I was every young man. “The gistvof the matter, as I see It, Mr. Speaker, is this: My hon. friends opposite gave, forever, into the custody of the Dominion Gov- ernment, the oyster areas of this Province, and it is entirely a, mat- ter for the Dominion Government now. Under the , ement which they signed we lost absolutely all say in the matter, once an area has been surveyed. I hope my hon. friends will see the situation in its true light, and shoulder their rc- sponslbillty instead of trying, for mllilcsl purposes, to pass it on u. us." (Applause). POTATO MARKETING Dealing next with the potato marketing scheme. Mr. Sharp pointed ort that when the Legis- lature passed the enabling legisla- tion last year, there was no‘ any opposition from the floor of the House. Since the Act came into operation, however, a. sniping cam- paign has been carried on by the Opposition. Mr. Sharp had asked the member from Rustieo (Mr. LePage) if he was prepared to drop the Price pegging regulations; he would not say so, but he was insistent that this Government "do something." _ " _ m. Sharp then cited the’ follow- ing figures of potato cars going forward from this Province in February and March since the Marketing Scheme became oper- ative: T0 CRIS; To Quebec points: February, 20 to March 27. i’! cars. Ontario points: February, 5i cars; to March 2'1, 94 cars. To Nova Scotia points: '14 cars; to March 27, 107 cars. - ~ To United States » points.’ lTo March 27, 2 cars. ' . . "On March 2'7 there was a total of 212 cars gone f rward. ' "CB-PS B01118 to Nova Sootia were for local and export purposes," My, Sharp continued, “but the figures show that during February and to March 2"! there was a total of 212 cars going to Quebec and Ontario. At an average of 700 bushels per car, this makes a total of 148,400 bushels. OI'I'ES PRICE BENEFIT “The prices of potatoes before the Marketing plan came into efiect were from B to 10 cents. The prices after were from 12 to 14 cents, or a difference of about 4 cents per bush- 14B,400 bushels at 4 cents means, on potatoes, not counting ex- ports to Nova Scotia, $5,936,000. Mr. lea: “Who was buying pota- toes for 8 cents. I have no know- ledge of it." Hon. Mr. Sharp: “That was a minimum price before the Market- ing scheme becamc operative, 8 to l0 cents per bushel. The increase since has meant nearly $6,000 to our shippers. Why condemn an organ- ization that is trying to look after the producers of this province un- der these trying times? It is very questionable as a matter of fact, whether a car load of Island pota- toes would move to Upper Canada markets today, if the Board ceased to operate and pegged prices were removed. If markets were allowed to find their own level we would be in the same position in Canadian markets as we are in American markets; prices so low that it would not be worth while grading for ship- merit. “Firgues have been quoted to show that more potatoes were exported last year than in this. But'we know that these potatoes went forward to United States markets, which, on account of surplus in that country and the very low prices prevailing, is practically closed to us. The ‘Mar- keting Board has no control over that market. Our movement this year is dependent, to a great extent. on the Canadian demand. It is inforusting to mile that according to the inspection service repute at Montreal, from Sept. 27, 193i to March ‘l, 1935, 190 cars of Prince Edward Island pota- toes went to Montreal as compared with ii cars for the same period one year . During the suns per- iod Qudiec delivered to the muse point 98 cars this your compare‘ oes “The Opposition are attacking the Government because of the Potato Marketing Scheme, but I would point out that these criticisms do not affect the Government, for the Government is not responsible; but they do aflect the interests of the potato producers of the Provinc These criticisms are political prejudice. ' blow at a producers‘ constructed and approved hm: ducerawhosremakings tiomaihupt e. to “I. IP00!‘ orliulsiutlz. toiallirovcmaststing practices la a year or distressing conditions. ' '~ M3. BOUUIIIPS POSITION referred to our relations with the former Deputy Minister of Agricul- ture in this Province. He insiuuates that at a time when the Potato Growers Association needed him the most, we dismissed him, or dispen- sed with his services, and turned him over to them. Potato Growers ever needed him. they need him now. and they need him 100 per cent of his time. We have absolutely nothing to say against Mr. Boulter as Deputy Min- ister of Agriculture. 'I'he only iauit was that we know he was an over- worked man. We know he was man- ager og an organization that need- ed 100 per cent of his time and at- tention, and it appears to me that that was the verbal understanding when his salary was raised to 85.- 000 by the directors of the Potato Growers’ Association—that he would resign from the oifioe of Deputy Minister and give his whole time to the work o; that organization. I understand that at some subsequent meeting he explained to them that his position as a Deputy Minister of this Province lent him a certain llrfltiae when he was down in the Southern States. selling potatoes, and for that reason he wanted to retain the office. If that is correct, then I submit that it was hardly fair to the Department over which he was Deputy Minister. He drew from the treasury $1.500 plus $500 from the Technical grant, making $2,000 in, addition to his full-lime salary of $5,000 as manager of the Potato Growers’ organization." Mr. Isa: “For how long?" Hon. w. Sharp “I cannot tell you how long. He drew it during the palrny days of the Association. The condition was this: the organ- ization was having some financial difficulties, but we were not going to the length that the member from Rusticc (Mr. LePage) wanted us to go. We were not going over ‘quiet- iy' to the Bank and tell them we would bask the organization up, but they must not tell anybody about it. That k practically what the hon. member suggested-himself a, for- ‘mer member oi the treasury board of the Provincial Government, handling the funds that came into this Province for the public benefit; and he suggested a. method of that kind, so that the members of this ' “ themselves would not know the financial position they were in.” “Mr. Lea: “He didn't mean that at a ." Mr. IePage: “'I'hat is your inter- pretation of it." Hon, Mr, Sharp: “He mggesfcd that they should have kqpt the an- nual lenient “under their hats." (Applause). Mr. Boulter went to the annual meeting, frankly stating the financial-condition to the members. He did not attempt to conceal it. but the member-from Rustico sug- gested that the publicity should not have been given to it, and that we should have been a party to the scheme and gone ahead and finan- ced it, on the taxpayers‘ money, and said nothing about it!" (Applause). Mr. IePage: "That is your in- terpretation of it." Hon. Mr. Sharp: “That is the only interpretation you can put on his remarks." (Applause). parawrmnur numbers 001v- . smcnan “So far as Mr. Boulter is con- cerned, we asked him to make his own decision. We wanted a full time man. or we wanted the As- sociation to‘ have a. full time man. Mt‘. Boulter still considered that his connection as Deputy Minister was valuable to the Association, and we were not prepared to con- tinue with that dual position, and we left the decision with him. He xomsed to oocnrply, and consequent- ly he severed his connection with the government. We have nothing to say Maillot Mr. Boulter as an official; we have the highest regard for him, but we did not consider that the man who is taking care of that department should be the sec- retany-manager of an organization which is in direct competition with the tznde. We believe the Depart- ment of Agriculture should be pure- ly educational. Iif you want to, you can help organize s. co-cperative association; but to sell for a. profit is a different thing, and that is ex- actly what the Potato Growers’ As- sociation are doing in competition with others. "I; is not true, as the Opposition has endeavored to suggest, that we refused to help the potato growers. The old bill was there, and the bank had guaranteed it up to that point. Why should we step in and take the bank's place? That was the question we asked, and we de- cided this Government was not en- titled to pledge the taxpayers’ money for that pin-pose. But for nny new financing. we stepped in and made it posible for them to carry on". Mr. Lea: "If the farmers had not put up their personal notes it would have died.” Hon. Mr. Sharp: "Their personal notes were prut up before they ever made the request to this Govem- ment. When the manager of the bank found that there was $15.00) .of a loss he said he wanted their lpersonai noise, and the directors |W9Ilil there and signed them. It was mfterwards, when ‘he found that the isimation was fifty or sixty thous- ‘,and dollars worse than it had sp- peared, that they came to the Gov- ernment. The notes signed by the directors were there as collateral. “I1; has been said that Mr. Boul- terwasdismissedtomake apos- ition for another man. I dc not consider that is a. fair statement of are referring to is Mr. W. R. Show. ma‘ 35° "5 °“° 7'".'¢°' He has been carrying on the dual field" may’ f: bffismmm‘ position of 1.. ‘ Superintend- II" PP a“ - ent and Deputy Minister of agn- culture without any additional sal- ary. Irecsllthagthelesderofthe Opposition, in his place in this. House a few years ago, stiggeated that we should have an additional field inn. m. Isa: “We got him." Hon. Mr. Sharp: “Whore is he?" "Intheperson ofMr. m1 ‘m. Sharp: ‘That wee a Federal ~ Mr.1.es:"&itwc-wcnt u. the audgotltamvint- “The leader of the opposition has Certainly if the . w, so» i}... l cue ca’)? ii .i i, nsarrnmmr - v . '- l. “iré \‘¢w \ {" MW" W“, a a r"" " . . - cd." (Laugnter). Hon. Mr. Sharp: “That is pretty far-fetch '2" (A,,__ ). “Another 8p"- intment that my hon Jnendwasgoing tomakewas a supervisor of Farmers’ Institutes. We have not appointed him, but we are making provision for such an appointment, and in addition, as l said, Mr. Shaw is filling the posit- ions of Idvestock Sirperintendeut and Deputy Minister at one salary. A Logical Conclusion "I think ft was the mernha" from nustico who suggested. that we were making a. posititm for a man of our I do not remem- ber under which government Mr. She/w was appointed, but I lmow he has been associated a long time with the livestock branch oi this Province. He has gone to the nec- essary college go qualify himself for the position he holds, and he is regarded as well qualified in every way. Don't you suppose, as Live- stock Superintendent, he would halve as much time to spend in the office as m‘. Boulter had, who was going from Virginia to New York and Connecticut in the interests of the Potato Growers’ Association?" Mr. LePage: “And that was no benefit to the farmers?" Hon. Mr. Sharp: “It might have been a benefit to them. we are not disputing that. But if It was a. ben- efit with fifty per cent of his time, it must have been a greater benefit to xive 100 percent, of his time to that work. as he is now in a. position to do." (Applause). ‘ "My hon. friends have ignored the assistance which we did give to the Potato Growers‘ Association. They give us little or no credit for having stepped in and guaranteed their fertilizer and spray material last fall. ‘Iliis year we guaranteed them again, not only for overhead but for storage and transportation to points in Canada. We believe in encouraging oo-operative effort wherever possible, and we say, let our comlectiovi with the Potato Growers’ Association be cordial, and letus assistiheminsnyvvay we can. without having any dual DOSlfiQIl-Bny Deputy Minister being president or secretary of their or- ganization." (Applause). Hshcryhilarkcts "The member from Rustioo waxed eloquent," continued Mr. , “over the fishermen! condition last fall. l-Iesa-idtherewespientyof mackerel but nobody could find a market, aznd that it was the Gov. emmonts duty to have done so. He serya that after the seasonwasclosed flhdtheboatswerelaid up,and the barrels that the fish should have gone forward in wcic used for some other‘ mimosa, a man came in to buy 20,000 barrels of these mackerel. His information was from the manager of the Gordon Pew Corn- pany, one of the largest fishery concerns on the Atlantic Sea. coast; an organization that could have found a market in the West In- dies. in Egypt. o; in any other nl-ace, if it existed; an organization that is directly in touch with mar- kets all over the world. They buy and sell cod and other fish in large quantities. How could you compare liny Zflvemment of any country as to their aMlitv to find q, mggkgt, with people who are experienced not only in preparing the fish but in selling i1», on a. world wide scale? If that man could not ‘tell those Rustioo people six months ahead to 80 ahead and M their fish, when: 0011111 F011 Bet any better advice from any government official?" (Applause). BUILDING WARDROBE AROUND ONE FROCK A lightweight woollen frock in some lovely shade of blue, green, red, gold or a dusty pastel is the most practical and flattering nucleus around which to plot a spring wardrobe. You can wen-r it under your coat or with a fur scarf or cape right now and, later on, without a wrap No fabric is smarter than wool. It has a certain suuvr lock abzxzt it that ls becoming to any kind of figure or perscnality. Modern cou- dressruaker and more severe lines so that feminine-looking girls as well as tailored types find woollen flocks becoming. This year it's smart to assemble your own ensemble, For instance, you might start with a rose-colored woollen dress and one complete set of brown accessories. Get a simple brown suit witl pain box jacket to wear in the Easter parade’ and then, for spectator sports and casual occasions, wear the brown jacket over the wollen dress. When you get ready to take motor trips or to spend summer week-ends in the country, wear white hat, shoes and gloves with the rose dies. Car- ry the brown bag ,of course. A wollen skirt with matching coat and an extra coat in con- trasting color is another type of en- semble that lends itself admirably to this new change-your-‘accer-sor- ies-tm-suit-youreelf idea. Onc par- ticularly handsome outfit has a black and white checked jacket and skirt and an extra hipiength coat of plain black wool in a rather novel weave. Others siugealons are red taf- fetc. Ascot scarf and pert hat, black correct aocemoriw when you wear shoes and beg and white gloves as the ohedred jacket with the skirt, Thenwhenyoumitchtothebieck coat, they want yoai to wear a_taf- feta Ascot in black and white, red bag. black hat and shoes. They have smut-y blue woollen dress that turies make i; up along both§ wowabemoetoweargiderfi black jaclmt sometimes, . Look for tolifeta, pique and IinQ trinunings on woollen frocks. 1h other words. be sure your outfit has a crisp touch that distinguishes it from the darker, heavier wools you ‘ wore last winter. You'll see striped ;. a silk that locks heavy but isn't.‘ Thenovelby weavealike mafelsssc. areasintrlguingasthefirsttulin’ in your garden. They come " and plain-with matching jaoktsb‘) audwliihout. " H SOLVE THESE 5.0a '_ Here are some problems for you to solve. They should not take WI very long, but in case you can't manage it, the correct answers sew- given at the and. ' A bank manager was about be leave his office to catch the five o'clock train home one day when he was stopped by the night womb‘ man, who said: “Last nigm. I dmtamt that the five o'clock train‘ left the mils and that you were injured. If I were you, sir, I v should not catch that train W4” nigh ." .| What ldioluld lie bank manafl ab? h-a-am...» ' Canyoumalreaenseoflaefelswr- , . I. - ».-'- vg-M-u-e-nxam... __v. v ing:-- Enter Caesar on his head: - heimetonhisieetiapairof .- in his eyes: a look of stern at r ance. Boys and girls shouldeasilybeaiwlelodothls. Place s, number of table and then ask for a basin sugar. Select one that you will swallow it, magical you alone posses will be found under one of the that the audience case to soled. Stir-r . iii lump probably take the basin may, o you have no such intention. swallow the sugar and linen _ l 3 s 11.1 iii-l? his eyes a look of Just put the hart indicated your head. 4, Walk round the ehak- twice then, walking out of the room, “I'll wall: around" the third marrow." _._____._.~ nmsrnmc. xA-ris M _ A remarkable Glasgow _ ter of the early 19th century =_ ~. was “Hirstling Kate," called so‘ ’~ from the way in which she walked, ‘ says the Glasgow Herald. Strlitly u speaking she did not walk. Her 168d‘ were paralyzed and the 'only_ way! she ocu‘d get about was to "hir v _ She squatted down on the yew‘ y.‘ merit, and, placing her two ands ' in a pair of old shoes, she" vered ' herself along. ‘ She was very thin and had dark, piercing eyes, Her nose was in \ and masculine. Her hair was- and thick, and hung down he ,_ back, except for a few odd ixressee - which tickled her nose Kate wore a patchwork dress-ac- cidentally patchworked that is-and a plaid shawl. In the bodice of her tires were set row upon row of pins. Pins were Kat's ruling passion. In . her travels about the town she was nearer to the pavement than any- one else, and consequently pin- finding was easy for her. We are told that she “hiccupped with per- fect ecstasy at the sight of a stray specimen." She struck the pins in parched rows on her ores, and when the sun shone the effect was annor-like. ._ People would sometimes throw coppers to her out of pity as she hirstled along, but she prized even more than money the gift of a pin. In return for one she would sing in a low, wailing voice‘. The cuckoo sits on younder tr e. He sings a song that pleases e1 He sings a song that pleases me well, I wish I were where the cuckoo doth dwell. She did fairly well out of the gen- 5;. 4,. f erosity of Glasgow folk, and they Were considerate to her getting out of the way when she approached. In k the summer time Kate had a great thirst, and several times a day she would make her way to the old West Port well, where the water was pure and cool. There were always a great many people about, and Kate was well attended to. Owing to the difficulty of lifting her up to the well, she would give one of her paddle-‘ike shoes-which she called her 'baucl1els"- to some one and he would fill if for her. Kate continued to collect pins and pennies until she became too frail to hirstle. Before she died she re- quested that her faithful bsueblea should he buried wim nh, and ma _. i o .4, :.'~.:'.*"::.:'.'.;.c'*:."e'...‘.’.>'..'.=""‘,