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     they were reported in two 
     
     consecutive; issues. 
     
    

    
     During the ensueingfdis- 
     
     cussions there were seVeral 
     
     sugestions as to how we 
     
     could resolve the sitution. 
     
     President Baker suggested 
     
     that the "easiest",thing 
     
     was tocconduct the meeting 
     
     without either one of them. 
     
     I then reminded him that we 
     
     were not here to do what is' 
     
     easiest' 7 .but what was 
     
     right. Father Jim Kelly, 
     
     Andy Robb, and Gary Webster 
     
     among others suggested two , 
     
     compromises. One was that 
     
     we have a unaminious vote 
     
     recognizing Doug Smith as 
     
     Senator andthe second was ‘_ 
     
     that we conduct the meeting 
     
     contingent on legal advise. 
     
     In other words they sugges—~ 
     
     ,ted that we let Doug s 
     
    
   
   
    
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     According to the Univers— 
     
     ity Act, among the members 
     
     of the Senate of the Univer- 
     
     fity are inve members of 
     
     the student body of the 
     
     maversity elected in such' 
     
    
   
   
    
     in the duly approved Consti- 
     
     Umion of the student body" 
     
     and "the President of the 
     
     StUdents' Union, in the' 
     
     eVent that he has not other- 
     
     186 been elected t9 the 
     
     §enate." Last year, I was 
     
     Informed by the Student 
     
     Ouncil that Marilyn MacPhe— 
     
     Son had been duly elected 
     
     to Senate; When I arrived 
     
    

    
     to Chair the Senate meeting 
     
     n Wednesday, Februrary 19, 
     
     Was told that there was 
     
     new member, Doug Smith. 
     
    

    
     S Chairmangof Senate, I had 
     
    
   
   
    
       
     
    
   
   
    
     on Senate and risk wasting 
     
     2-3 hours. The majority_of 
     
     Senate appeared to agree 
     
     with this proposal but Ba-; 
     
     vker refused to listen and 
     
     vasked for a motion of ad- 
     
    

    
     ' journment. I asked senate 
     
     not to move this motion but 
     
     rit was moved by Jean MacKay 
     
     and seconded by Regis Duffy. 
     
     Baker almost immediately 
     
     brought it to a vote. The* 
     
     motion was defeated. Pres- 
     
     ident Baker then ignored 
     
     ‘the defeat and declared the 
     
     meeting adjourned. Whenever 
     
     the chair makes such a rue 
     
     ling it is subject to chal— 
     
     lenge from the floor and if 
     
     so must be voted on. ‘Beli— 
     
     ving to be completely out 
     
    

    
     - of order, I challenged the 
     
    

    
     ruling whereupon President 
     
    

    
     Baker stood up and said he 
     
    
   
   
    
     “A 
     
    
   
   
    
     manner as shall be set forth“ 
     
    
   
   
    
     maurtlectedrresment ‘ 
     
     lSllmReq’uires Tliut | Tell Him About'l'llo Chunge’ 
     
    
   
   
    
     received no resignation 
     
    
   
   
    
     was going home: He packed 
     
     up his papers and began to 
     
     I leave as did a handful of 
     
     othfirJSenators. I asked him 
     
     if he was refusing to lis— 
     
     sea to a challenge and he 
     
     'repeated "I'm going home". 
     
     I called the meeting to or- 
     
     der in an attempt to sal- 
     
     vage a quorum and elect a 
     
     chairman from within in the 
     
     remaining group of Senators 
     
    
   
   
    
     Fourteen members are requi— 
     
     ' red for a quorum and when 
     
    

    
     it looked that one flight be 
     
     obtained Baker returned and 
     
     stated that he would claim 
     
     the chair,if it was obtain- 
     
     ed. The meeting then dis- 
     
     integrated because it could 
     
     have gone on.all night with 
     
     Baker declaring it adjOur— 
     
     ned (illegally) and us re— 
     
     cieving a quorum, him re- 
     
    
   
   
    
     ppointed One 
     
    
   
   
    
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     ‘view that Marilyn MacPherson. 
     
    
   
   
    
     from Marilyn MacPherson, and was still a member of the 
     
    
   
   
    
     AI had not been informed 
     
    
   
   
    
     that the Student Union had 
     
     removed her from the vice- 
     
    
   
   
    
     . presidency, nor had.I been 
     
    
   
   
    
     informed that the Student 
     
    
   
   
    
     :Union did not want her on 
     
    
   
   
    
     the'Senate. 
     
    

    
     As the President of the 
     
     University, I am very much 
     
     concerned about the freedom 
     
     from pressure of members 
     
    
   
   
    
     7 of the Senate and the Board 
     
    
   
   
    
     of Governors. In the past, 
     
     we have seen elsewhere gove— 
     
     rnments change board members 
     
    
   
   
    
     'because the university was 
     
     - not doing what the governm— 
     
    
   
   
    
     ent happened to wish; I feel 
     
     therefore, that the drafters 
     
     of our Act and the governm- 
     
     ent of the province were 
     
     wise in not including in 
     
    

    
     the Act provisions for rec— 
     
     all of Senate members by 
     
    
   
   
    
     'those bodies that elect, 
     
    
   
   
    
     them. Above all, a univers- 
     
     ity should be a place to 
     
    
   
   
    
     protect unpopular opinions. 
     
     If we cannot live with an 
     
     unpopular opinion until 
     
     someone comes up for re—ele— 
     
     ction or re—appointment, 
     
     there is something wrong 
     
     with us. . 
     
     Consequently, I said 
     
     that as chairman it was my 
     
    
   
   
    
     ISenate. I also said to Doug 
     
     vSmith that if he wanted to 
     
    

    
     ‘speak at any point I would, 
     
     recognize him and allow him? 
     
    
   
   
    
     V tomjoin in the discussion. 
     
    
   
   
    
     a When it became quite clear 
     
    
   
   
    
     Zihat'thererwas disagreement 
     
     "as to which of the students 
     
    
   
   
    
     was in fact a member of;the 
     
     Senate, especially in view 
     
     of the fact that a number 
     
     of people agreed that there 
     
     was a problem, I tried to 
     
     proceed with the business 
     
     by suggesting that neither 
     
     of the students sitafor 
     
     that particular meeting. 
     
     That, however, proved unacc-- 
     
     eptable. " 
     
    

    
     Since the legality of 
     
     a somewhat similar action 
     
     involving a Senate committee 
     
     LWaschallenged this year, 
     
     I was particularly anxious 
     
     that there be no possibility 
     
     of dispute over the legality 
     
     of the membership. Conseque— 
     
     ntly, I said that I would 
     
    
   
   
    
     like to consult the University 
     
    
   
   
    
     lawyer. It was suggested 
     
    

    
     that Senate vote on the 
     
    

    
     matter. In my view, however, 
     
    

    
     this is a legal question, 
     
    

    
     and is not solved by the 
     
    

    
     unanimous vote of the Senate. 
     
     I was reluctant to leave 
     
    
   
   
    
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     .The Cadre, Feb. 25, 1925, page 11 
     
    
   
   
    
     turning and reclaiming the 
     
     chair and declairing it 
     
     adjourned again. 
     
    
   
   
    
     As it stands now, the 
     
    
   
   
    
     meeting is open—ended. It 
     
    
   
   
    
     fhasn't been officially:ad- 
     
     journed but President baker 
     
    
   
   
    
     has called for the 8th 
     
     meeting of Senate on Tues- 
     
     day night at 7:15 in Kelley ' 
     
     Memorial Library. This in 
     
     fact will still'be the 7th 
     
     ,meeting (part two) and not 
     
     the beginning of the 8th. 
     
     Both President Baker and 
     
     myself have checked with 
     
     our lawyers and will have 
     
     their opinions on the mat- 
     
     ter for Tuesday's continu- 
     
     ation of the seventh meet- 
     
     ing. 
     
    
   
   
    
     Sincerely, - 
     
     Gordon Campbell, 
     
     Pres, U.P.E.I.S.U. 
     
    
   
   
    
     RiolixB'uker-Flflad Not Been lnformed’ 
     
    
   
   
    
     the Senate, particularly 
     
     when a motion to adjourn 
     
     had been lost (12 opposed 
     
     to adjournment; 10 in favor) 
     
     but,I did not feel that 
     
     I could continue to be in 
     
     a meeting where the legality 
     
     of the membership was in 
     
     question. 
     
    

    
     mHad Marilyn MacPherson 
     
     resigned and Doug Smith 
     
     been elected by the Student 
     
     bddy in the normal way, 
     
     there would have been no 
     
     problem at all. As it was, 
     
     however, I had no resignat- 
     
     ion on the one‘hand; and 
     
     I had had no notice of a 
     
     change in the Constitution 
     
     and election on the other 
     
     hand. g 
     
    

    
     The principle involved is 
     
     extremely important. If the 
     
    
   
   
    
     “government, Holland College, 
     
    
   
   
    
     the Student Union, the facu— 
     
     lty can remove members of 
     
     the governing bodies of the 
     
     University in mid-term, 
     
     especially without notice 
     
    

    
     or resignation, we may on 
     
     some important issue one 
     
    
   
   
    
     .day find ourselves in seri- 
     
    
   
   
    
     Ous difficulty. 
     
    
   
   
    
     R.J. Baker 
     
     President 
     
    
   
   
    
     Feb 20, 1975