_----..4.-._..._-,.n-, - _ §ili Ur “ .- l To Office. nuns-n’. ~ Chamber. 1H8. April 2. _ e House inloommltioc on lup- with Mr. Hunter in the‘ chair. artment of Agriculture, $51,220 laries, ($1.000) . Lea. said he noted the Live- k superintendent's salary was . There‘ is no" provision for salarybf a. Deputy Ministlerof "lculture. He understood tin: JOlfllifld Deputy Minister. Evident- Ul that is in The Guardian re- ing the govemmeni is npt cor- on. Mr. MacNutt: ‘That is un- idrratlonf” " ‘ Mr; Lea billd there was $1,200 for c. representative. Docs" that indudc- the. man__whoi s supposed to be (coking after the ncw work of promoting- cow testing? Had that lrointment been made? - om Mn-MncNutt: “No." Jlfiflt‘ "What are his duties to be I would expect that he would a pretty full time job. It is intention of the Department ln oting their mform policy to cow testing, it. would be pretty for this man to work as field ntative because I can sec that the ,Dcparlmrill. is malty lightly s . In New Brunswick. whom returns from dairying, livestock everything but hay- are no "- 26 men employed on the staff. we have an incwase of $150,- in subsidy-yand clear of one there L! no incrcflrioregri- ‘ re. My hon. friend his intim- that they ore advfincixig policy’ of agriculture.‘ but I seethgy have no provision ‘for it. Th - ‘is no increase of voieand th _-no new men in the held. If helnqeputy Minister is being Minis work will have to be ' flier-given up to office work. s {the Superintendent's work ~ ‘ arricgd on? 1' ceuft see. with the imiuzes that are here, how the ~ jyzyrpcoflslon mule for pro otiz this reform policy, clear of e fact that my hon. friend say he goes out to bas-nyards and pro motes it in mivate conversation .the farmers. A very small pro- por Lon of the farmers in need will e the benefit of my hon. d’s instruction that way. Not is there provision noymade promoting the farm policies, hey are actually restricted be- _the most important man in ectionwith that work is to be _ W11, because his time will be irup. almost altogether, with p work. Instead of a policy of nsicn‘ it is a policy of restric- BENEFICIAL CHANGE H . Mr. MacNutt: "Undm- the pre nt arrangement we will have two full‘: time men. Previously we on] had one: the other was just a. p ;rt time man. The work of the field man, principally. will be cow oestng, but a great many other thins will centre. around that. He goes into a community to test cows, and at the same time he can en- gage in other work such as calf club‘ work. advising-on feeding: and other farm lines, His work will bu. ehti Jy_ln the country. He will be link d up with the cheese factor- ies md other farm activities, ,Our prin ipal educational work will be in t e meetings which we will hold tron time to time throughout the cour at different localities. We have had s. great deal ofYencour- mgen nt along that line from the mee ngs already held, and l feel that we have a. great work to do in that regard. it is not at all meas- for our livestock man orDep- ster, if he should becolifi in the ofhce all the Les thought he saw "the man that was in charge and rc- him by another man!) The r had intimated that hero n new Deputy Minister op- sefiighcro an indirect $1; nitric e man that was ,1? him by sn- oop mm. My . friend intim- . ted. vi submit t t ‘y-. en 'wiil not have In i! Li - even the" work that was ll tbl Tuesday .pstock Superintendent had been (‘new Deputy lllistonoe in the mob-vb; . und our Dev t- .. “ghfmufim- uii .. -. ~ mu ._ l handlers“ *1 ;..- ... 3.. L flffllafiln ' to whom ..: w“... w ii i - -' ‘- ‘s_Efremlilzuisrdrespunszaizzly Of-Potato- r-Growers.’ -- Association “ejflifficoultijes ‘ On MacMillan Cdiircfrtment End In Ewposure Of His Own Responsibility. u/ienolnofmae; '11. Again Sidesteps (gkglkfllge To’ Soy WhatHe. Would Do If Elected were not ‘sufldentiy 00W fir-stills, ven slim‘ bonuses and prime .h_nd ; Qwtablished. To make any success of such work, he said. the Government would have tpelglacé flthéllu-“IIIG: man ln the ., » . .. W‘ Qunwar-w he Qflleveifi ., the ,. llvcfil/Qiik 1 industry _co_ifld“'ha.vi'e‘b{en promoted more ac- tively. Between‘ last ycflr._p.rld the year before. cows had decreased fzom 56.000 loidwwaecordlns to the Agricultural Report. What was being done pt that time to promote ' dniryinxi Re could not think of one thing the Government did which W“ MW. in the _way of livestock promotion. There is nothing in the Elstimaies to show that any read effort is being‘ made. The Liberals, on the other, hand. through joint effortsof the provincial and fed- eral. departments, obtained the ser- vices of a federal livestock prom- Oifilfit Dflld by the Federal Govern- men . ~ ,' bmivcnrrlorsm mnocioar. ‘Hon. Slurp: ~~“M-y hon, fflevdh m-ionlns is hardly logical, 569M159 I difiilhclily remember, _ a year or two ago, that. lie commend- ed the Government. for the change they had made inbring-lng mm the Department of Agriculture a man who was in every qualified, {Qflilke charge o1’ that Department." Mr. Lea: "It was an improvement over the previous ypar, o; _¢Quf§g." Hon. lVlIr. Sharp: "He said that the former -,-Mll1i,§to_r, of uigrlcultute ‘was not a farmer: he knew a‘ little about oysterfannlng and fox 1am. 1118. but Iibthlng’ about agriculture; and that the Government had been well advL-cd- when they made a sel- ection from thecld Malpeque Dis- trict and appointed my hon. friend Mr. MacNutt, who'was qualified by ‘R888 o! service and in every other way for that most-important de- pertinent in this Province." (Ap- Plflll-Rc-i Mr: Mnc-Nutt has been giving his full time to the work of the Agricultural Department during the past yennnnd while it 15 no doubt true that Mr. Boultcr, who has severed his connectllnr with iii-at dfllartment. gave a great deal of service to the Department, at the came time he also was man- ager of the Potato Growers. Asso- ciation. and st least. part,of his tune was given to that organiza- tion. He was also secretary of the Exhibition Association, and I be. hove he was secretary of the Dairy Association Wool Growers Mfiwlli-ivfl; so that". the time he had- 1w. to devbtnb the activities of this Department must have been more or less curtailed. We expect x to put on a field man whowill be a4 fuiftime man. and who wiirgo out into the districts and do cow testing and other-uwork that was formerly carried on singly and None by tnsrprmu livestock sup- erintendent. .. , "It is a. well known fact," contin- Wd MT- 308W. “that owing to the amalgamating process we have not as many cheese factories or butter f ctories as we formerly hdd in this jovince. One or two 'larg\e' dairy organizations ndw take care of ‘practically all the cream. Conne- qucniiy the dairy superintendcnt ha»; not ‘got-co make the large num- ber of visits he formerly made; and a_ visit to a butter factory, whether ‘it is ldrée or small, takes a certain limited time. e will now have‘ a certain‘ amount of time to assist _this field man in doing the cow‘tcaf._ing_.olid other work, so that instead of carrying on the De- partment of Agriculture man and n half, as it were. Agriculture we new" have a. with what sssistunoe the ibfhM. DQpOrtmIBD/tz-i! - MR. LENS m... dis _ ' improvement ma‘ present tllb est hlbltlon of thunder stelling‘ wl1nn the lost. _ {or l our filnisters hid gone to a. _ node his V policies. The" slry kinda-thought h! mm; doll-yin; ratlnr than toning. The for n’: time had been 'nteresizd" in with a and with a ‘fisherman’ as Minlstcr of full tint.‘ well-qualified former. with a Livestock Superintendent who will also be acting as Deputy Minister. and s full time field man, together dairy superintendent will beable to give Mr. iellsilfd he whs nbtgolng ute the Minister's suggestion _ been mude inlthe npgzintnlent ‘of the _ l‘ “W. -_ he hi’: notiégfigle great‘- hnd . made hi one Draft ' Premier "an-L ul- ~ fi... . . should live run time in other forms of prom- ty-Mlnlster-io-be m ‘iqlcwwgiwnlilr Vttodiscus Hen tho your. ; .3 ' g a out but ‘Mi-mu’ ritual-l murm- ‘of "IIMY-"Yiuer mfcnediotho town. up ls Pxemfq ' Supply G V Mr. Bculter had taken over the duties ofsecretas-y of the Exhibi- tion Association, and thereby he had saved the Government the necessity of givlngthc Association an sdditionljll grunt. But for this move and for the beneficial change in moving the date of the Exhibi- tion one month ahead, he believed the ‘Association would have , gone down. Mr. Boulter had done his work efllciently in every depart- ment. Three or Vfouryears ago he had carried on the work 9f the Potato Growers Association without sclary. It would have been wise for the Government to have continued his appointment for s. while, in yicw of the diflluulties which that Association was, in. ' MLR. LENS “JOKE? Premier MucMilmn: "I did not intend to discuss thismatter but I see that my hon. friend the leader of the Opposition would not be sat- isfied unless he- drew me into the discussion. It has given him the opportunity to discuss Mr. Boulter, but I want to ‘direct the attention o!‘ the committee to the fact that. just a year ago, the leader of the Opposition advocated the dismissal of flip Deputy Minister of Agricul- ture while the Estimates were go- ing through." Mr. Lea: “My hon. friend knows that ivas only n joke, and he is not much of a snort to bring that up." Voices: “Oh. oh!" v Mr. Lea: “When was that print- ed?" Hon. Mr. MacKenzie: "You said a saving could be effected}! . Mr. Ica: “My hon. friends ar poor sports if that is the best ex- cuse they can have. Pretty poor sinus." - Premier MacMillan: "l submit that the passing of the Estimates is not a time for joking." (Ap- plause) “If the loader of the 0p- posiiion thinks that his remarks of inst year can now be explained nwsy by saying they were ‘n joke,‘ let him keep on explaining. fie used the very same arguments last tempts to use as an argument against us this year. He said last year that Nova Scotia was dispens- ing with their Deputy Minister of Agriculture, and that. if Nova Scotia could do that, why couldn't we do it?" _ Mr. Lea: "A poor sport.“ Prvmicr ltlaicMillan: “Now he turns around and says that the Province of New Brunswick has n whole crowd of officials in the Ag- ricultural Department: consequent- ly we are making a mistake because we are not following suit." (Ap- - plmice.) his remarks last year would have any effect at all or not. but I am go- ing to say this, that Mr. Bouli/er was free to make hi; own choice, whether he should remain with the Department of Agriculture or the Potato Growers Association. When the Executive Council of this Pro- vincc sends a communication to an official. asking him for an answer, and that ofllcial ignores the com- munication, then the Government has but one choice in the matter. if it is going plause.) "Mr; Boulter was given an opportunity of saying whom he wished to serve. whether the Gov- emment of this Province, in the capacity of Deputy Minister. or the Association in the capacity of gen- eral manager. He did not do so. I don't‘ know whether he thought but would hold both positions. In per or not. . .- . new policy in operation? You are not spending more money‘, there v inrw‘ ich good-can be effected! ~- ; in: rmmmws Answer. ‘He ls very 801161140051.htm‘ the ture. Bo think: that w on this side of the ignored- OHIO? if l has spoken. $3M!“ your which he turns around and at- v “I am not going to say whether to govern at all.” (Ap- that he would do as he did on two several occasions that l k owcof, when he stated hc would not resign any event, I am content to leave the judlmont of this matter to the Wollle of this Province, whether the course of this Government was prir "The leader of the Opposition,” continued the Remler. “complain- ed on one occasion that we have nothing how to offer in the Agri- cultural Department. Now he asks us, ‘lfcw are you going to put your are no new vows, and consequently there can't ‘be much to it.‘ ‘My hon. friend; always nuume that the ‘ex- "pend ture cf money u the omy why feelings of the inister of Agricul- _ at Mlfliltfi‘ of Pub- w. e ' .,< on.) o'er mu sun-comatose..- vhlnodtnomcwboshonu don 1 when I feel that I an: not ‘able , mun; "or uuslupouuu in my department ofjhll Govern- ment. thank!!! be sliialid to stop v down nnd-"dfiilld luiflcmeono‘ eke inc u» Job." (Increased applause.) . “My hon. friend need not be too uolicltovul. flanking fortblt Government. and theaucnuaortbe " which “wifhateuiom. which we are now following up md which is meeting with response from the ‘farmers of this Proving whom we wont to mach. Solon: awe have that response, and so long u we lave such attendant); u we have hud at those nnotinu where our policies are being bmugbt home to the people who need them most. thenwoloesatisfiedthstwem moving in the right direction. A few months, probably, will show the wisdom of the action which we have taken." Mr. Lea: “He i; going to do it like the Prlmefldirllster of Oanadn, when he 11801118 out of omce. Where was his great reform policy four years ago. The lag. mbersl Government didn't wait ll election war tddo it. I ‘didn't say there wasnothbig new in his policy; I said all that was new was cow test- ing, and that would take all the time of the field mm." _ Continuing, Mr. Leo. aglln refer- md to Mr. Boulter and said that his recommendation lust year that the Government dispense with the services of s Deputy Minister of Agriculture was only intended as a joke and it was unfair for the Premier to take advantage of it. Mr. W. H. MacDonald: “Are you joking now?" (Lalllhtelfl) "an A01‘ or con" Mr. Lou, not replying, went on t0 sneak of the benefits of the Potato Growers Association, particularly in the year 1929 when they contested the Us. potato duty. He traced the growth and development of the Association. The organization had got into difficulties through frost losses last year. The potatoes were inspected by federal inspectors who should have discovnmd fro“ 10 them before they left the Isiamd. Was it reasonable that the Associa- tion should stand the loss brought. about by "an act. of Gcd" over which no person had any control and-for which no manager or dir- ector should be held responsible. when m», request was made to the bank to allow the organization to goon, Mr. Lea complained, this Government. made no offer of a. gilarantee. They Wore 1'01‘ this guarantee before the campaign had Buy-mg“ n); country that was very hurtful to, the organization. "becnusey/hén you as); them to Pill up pemonalmoies. then the agita- tion stafts- in the country." If the directors and some of the farmers had not come to the assistance of tire association it would have died l1 natural death. No other govem- ment in Canada. faced with a. sim- ilar situation, wouldhave hesitat- ed in coming to the assistance of a co-operstrve organization as val-y uable as that. Mr. Lles. referred to the western wavh/rat growers who had been guaranteed to the extent of $Z2,000,DOD., . .'- “Tffly scythe iii-finalization didn't ‘live up to its bylaws.” continued ,M1-_ ma, fwhnt if it didn't? There was $20,000 one year paid to pre- wvmt a duty going on our potatoes in the United States. That took money. Their money was used up for various purposes and was paid ‘nvcr to the farmers. Flcrtilizer was delivered cheaper and potatoes wen’: handled at a very low cost. If the Government would not give a pro- vincial guarantee it was their duty to appeal to the Federal Govern- ment to come to their assistance." MR. LENS RESPONSIBILITY Premier MacMlllan: "The dis- cussloui resolves itself into a ques- tion of the Potato Growers Associa- tion and its relation to this Gov- ernment. We have listened to the Opposition leader tell this story cf the growth and development through its years of progress and retrcgres- sion. And as you listen to his story you discover that he who is so ready and so willing to give all sorts or advice, is the vnry one who, when he was in a position to ad- vise helpfully, did not do so. I have no doubt that he attended their meetings as a shareholder. I don't know if he is n director. but I sup- pose he attended rmny of their annual meetings; I wonder what his reaction was when he knew that the shareholders were violating their own bylaws! Did he advise them as one of the sponsors, one of the patrons, of this business, as a Min- isinr of Agriculture whose pretense along nerioultum! lilies knows no bounds-did he soy to them. ‘You arc following a very foolish course; you‘ ve bound yourselves into an 0 , izltlon and taken on certain obligations, and hens. at every sn- nusl meeting you are violotlnl thouelobligatlaxu. and you are pur- sulngibc pen. that loads, slowly but“ surely, to, . when was he but)»; days. when -hc_ might hub was u: t» calamity u. um Alocl on, with sue counsel and _ ‘ use.)~ “He is very ...ct tug up in this House IIOOIIIII III coming in, would ithct have been b new hid-nice $60M. or a- culhnocrlliy other whens cru- Ilnk. h the one who spooks for the Government. For thetlnie belnglun olstenoe for Ill THIS NUIIIIGT ‘The louder of the Ovwllilon did nothing to avert tho day of disu- ter: but he uys that when that day come this Government did nothing to help the Association and it would have gone auto! ex- did. What , ‘ ‘ _. 1 gunwvq. the mwv wo- fcxences we bad with them regard-v ing the peculllrpnd moolflodiill- cultiu they Wm facing; it no nothing that this Government had to sot up n. commune?!“ ‘ndlhnéiwto, ut s gun-on o non-y .- 800 igposder to finance the fertiliser for that Association lut your! If we lad done nothing on iii-wt oc- casion. thcv certainly would law becncutofuistcnnnwchovelet- tors from the Association, thank- ingusforwhn-twedldfortbem. We not only set up i. commission and financed their fertilizer rumin- mcntl. but we saw that the pio- duct was diawhsrd and 0M Ncfit on mo. ‘in was handed over to them, A little later on we put up nnotbei-‘lllmw in finance their spray material. That was doini nothing! Again, this Government put up n guarantee at the bank in order that the Association mint finance this year's business cud carry on. And if they had carried on as they are oarryingonncrunif they had sold their potatoes in- stead of shipping on consignment, and gambling as they WEN (10108 fur years past, they would not be wg 5m guaranteeing their opera- tions now. and for the third time we have come to the rescue cc! this Association. Those are the respon- sibilities we assumed. We are not prepared to assume the MINI"!- ulty of sun-numb: film J14!‘ debt. incurred u I have explain- ed. In that mutter too. we stand hi our judgment and our lotion be- fore the elect-on of this Province: bet the criticism go when It will.’ (Applause) , "The leader of the Olllmiim" says that other Provinces came to the rescue of oo-OWYQWIE °WN111W tlons to the extent of mlllkrlw 0f dollars. That may be so. We 111W that other Pmvinoh MW? 1°55 W“ sums of money in that Wly- W9 know that this Province has guar- anteed on many occasions in the past-Jury, oats, and other thin!!!- and the money has all been lost. This Government was not‘ 01W!!!)'- cd to ask the general taxpayer of this Province u, put up $00,000 w guarantee the losses 0f I-fly 555°" elation. Mr. Les: “It wouldnft have been necessary." Premier Macmillan: "Wisdom says it wouldn't be necessary! How does be know? He is always so wise after the event, never before. But We RN not prepared to take that chance. and, 35k the tsxpayersmf this Pro- vince to guarantee the debts of-a. oertaln portion of the ta!!!)@7615- The Egg and Poultry Association would have the right to come in. when they got into dimoulties, and ask that we do the same for them. Every farm organization would have that right. We took all this into consideration. Our stand was that we were not justified in doinfl it, and. we didn't do it." (Applause) MR. LENS OONTENTION Mr. Les: "I did not say you did nothing. I said that for all you have done, the Association would have died. Guaranteeing the BPYBY material and fertilizer did not give‘ any assistance to the Association to carry on. My hon. friend says that I as Minister should have seen that they should have out B certain amount of money aside each year. He forgets that he as leader of the Government should haw! done that too. Where does, he think they got the $20,000 which they spent in defeating the United States tariff increase on potatoes. That was part of the money which he says they should‘ have saved for a. rainy day." Continuing, Mr. Lea said he lud had nothing to do with the internal management of the Association. That was in charge of a board of directors. He again reviewed the benefits which the Association had obtained to potato producers during its years of operation. Ooming to the present financial difficulties. he said it was ridiculous to argue that if the Government guaranteed the notes. they of necessity would have to pay them. The OIeary Produce Company had been referred w. but that was not a case of government guarantee: it was c loan the Gov- ernment made to purchase from Western Canada a mservb of seed cats at s low price. He. Mr. Let. had made the dccisionln that case and he was pzepared to take the responsibility. Even if a. little loss that had been made ifng should be given out unless paid or. Mr. Les against refened to the Grower! o! the you several W! the porno! wisdom or common b!!! 111101! this cum which bu! m m, trouble they are in mam. {lariit Shuts Outilheap. Vegetab- les‘ ' " fiilllllfifillllfiWrlfd ANGEL v- l “calms W! » Canada. in the United States. ‘the Detroit river, inmnotio boundary between wohlgsn and osnada. mo: taming with. liquor- lsden boats, now is the battle- ground between cutouts ‘ons, containing 50 pounds each, Walter B. lifitty, acting collector of , so The onions repxuented only 82!! in Canada, but would have $1,117 in Deemfils market places. Onionscostbocentscbaginwlnd- our, but sell for $2.75 l. bog in De- troit. 'I\he finrlmf which importers would have in pay on each bog is $1250, 1118b emioueh to exclude foreign onions. The seized bags Later were cold at public s/uctlon. all 428 of them, at prices little higher than the Olms- diau rates, They netted $587 sllto- gether. The auction was conducted by the federal customs officers, and nearly 100 store proprietors and mmmission men attended the sale and took pert i1. the bidding. Other Food smuggled Onions are not the only ' food found in the smugglers’ boats. Their 0843098 m"!!! all the way from mdlshes to squash, Better nmning nets l5 cent a bound for the smug gler. But muons, because of the great differential in prices here m4 in 0811mm. am the most profitable for the smugglers. The customs border patxolmen have girded for a flght- ' Housewives, having learned the ' benefits of shopping - in Windsor. are driving there by bridge or tun- nel, filling their cars with food. and ireturning. ‘Ilo the customs inspector the-ysaythey have “Daldavisltto n. friend in Windsor" and that the sbomlm was incidental. ‘Ilhris is difficult to combat, Petty said. Pea-sons returning from Oan- ada. can declare $100 worth of good provided the ptuchase was ind- dental to their visit. But the law provides they can bring in this $100 cargo also once a nwnth. Rewards to the onmgglers are as great as in the old liquor prohibi- tion chyr. The profit on an average load is N00, and this enticing figure -_._.. Detroit oconkocperu one! communion uorchnu are shown with lung OCIHQIZOIO-ioillilflfiolioncwliichlboybolghtlb - homo auction chor- tlioy Ind been seized from smugglers by the border patrol. - 1a, 193s Suggi, of inns an .er Food p - From_ ‘Canada to S. Worries Guards .. _._ .___. .. - -~--.1 has lured many zui old-time liquor smuggler inlo the new racket. Some of the old transporters of gig- gle water are now in legitimate bilsiness, Potty snid, but those who have found no new trade have turned their old boats into onion SWWS. 4 Alhnsdycne of the leaders of thl new onion-snuggling B8118 1w! bee arrested, and awaits trisl in fed al court. Ho is Leo “Frenchy" Shdvnn, cite-time boss of a rum ring‘. When he faces the 1008f f)" the onion charge he will have two previous six-months sentences against, his record, both for liquor- ‘ uggllng. He faces a. prison term and a fine if convicted of muon- running. couldn't take it! B0 I suggest that if theficvernment had done noth- ing’. the Association would have been out of business; and from that time we have carried them under c guarantee and are carrying them now. We did u. great deal more than give them advise, which seems to be the stock in trade of the leader of the qpositicn." (Applause) A STRAIGII.‘ QUESTION Mr. J- A. MacDonald: "lfixthe event of him coming Into powc next election, would he give the nmrantce to the Association?" Mr. Lea: "That mlttel will be put before the Government ff I coma In.” l . Mr. MacDonald: "No qulbbllng!” Mr. Les: "I have no ‘ova-amoral.’ NLI’. Msolironald: “You won't glvo a definite answer. Mr. Lea: "I have given my ans- wer." Nfr. MacDonald: "Will you guar- antee that amount. if elected?" Mr. Lea: "I cant guarantee any- thing for a. government that L; not even ylected yet." Mr. MacDonald: "In case you are elected. would you guarantee?" Mr. Lea: "As I said before, if I had been in the position of my hon. friend, I would." Mr. MacDonald: "My hon friend b hedging." Mr. Lea: "I anrnot hedging. If I had been in the seats of the mighty last year I would have done it-os far as I could have done it." (laughter) . Mr. MocDonaldz“ The llgltlcn In there yet. WOULD YOU DO I’! NOW?‘ (Mr. Lea. did not answer.) Mr. MacDonald: “You won't lis- ouls that?" (Mr. Lea did not nntwcr.) _ Mir. MacDonald: “I sympathise with my non. friend. He is in s dif- ficult position, there is no doubt about that." (Laughton) Mr. lea: "I think m hon. friend is the only sympothe ic nun on that side of the House." Mr. MacDonald: "I know my hon. friend and I appreciate hi: dlfllcult position." (Laughton) rm. arms-s mas tchilown the t should go 1nd gut up the taxpayers’ mo!” 101' i" Association. What he slid w” "that they should have wont quiet- god. If the It every way from the Association, then the nun: commuted: to Ifltsuspi- ma." "Nobody," continued Mr. them was money‘ wanted to be out up. All that wn required was on monument to be um ‘uu form- over the 151mm’ y. ’u' c tone or two cents a bushe they lhculfl, m) amount of subject. He hcd never stated that "F! Ocvernmon ‘it. mumps u _ one would know anything about If. if the growers and the Government and the bank got together. All they wanted was some encouragement to carry on. and it could have been arranged." Oontlnulnc, It‘. LQPBKO sold the Govcmmui-t. had dissociated itself from the Growers Association by dismissing Mr. Boulber. It "wouldn't have beenJ. terrible thing l1’ the Government did lose a. few dollars to m institution of that magnitude," he thought. $30,000 "had been wast- ed of the taxpayers money" by re- moving clay the Exhibition grounds. and money had also been "wasted" in lihlocnwood plans and bond issues, but the Government would not loin the farmers‘ notes to save the Potato Growers’ As- sociation." Mr. J. A. MacDonald; "Mr. Lea wouldn't promise to do that." y Mr. laPage mplied that Mr. Ma did not have the opportunity that this Government had. The Govern- ment “should have went quietly to the Bank and nude some arrange- ment." As a. result of its failure to do so, the Association now “has l black eye and we may lose .it al- together." The only-way the finan- cial loss could be liquidated. he thought, wu by taking so much cf! each shipment until the liabilities are paid. He hold faith that the Association would do this. m! come out all right. It was not a question, he insisted. of “pledginfl the taxpayer-s‘ money." but WW1! of letting the bank know that the , xbment was behind ‘the As- scolation. 110W LEA DID IT Hon. Mr. MnoPhee: "The ember from Rustioo said something in sit- ting down to the ciIect that they did :\t have the opportunity. Is this the first time that the Association has been in difficulty? I believe not. Under the late Liberal Government they found themselves unable tin get credit from the Bank, and what did the Government do? Didn't they den! with It by legislation? They pas- scd an act stating that any obliga- tions of the Association would be bold by every member.” fApplnup.) 1B. In: "What Act wls that? I have no recollect! ." Hon. Mr. MacPhce: ‘There wns u Ant pulsed in the stun Imposing all the obligations of the Annotation on every updater: and flat in the. rcucn they inks to new. m. [All “That is the some not thlt they had previously." v Hon. Mr. MacPhec: “It was Wu: lmendment introduced to their Act of incolwrflticn under the late Government. when the lotion we; in financial dlmculty. y 1m! to [at another beak; their previous bank wouldn't give them the credit wanted. DID THEY GIT A O AIANTII IRON T118 GOV- II-NMINT? N0! THEY G01‘ A ITATUTI. AND ‘I'll! STATUTE l5 THE VERY THING THAT PUT! TEE MEMIBERS OF '1'!!!) AS- SOCIATION IN "A- ~DI¥FIGJIJI POSITION TODAY.‘ fAppluase.) Mr. Ilea: "The statute didn't change their organimtion what- emy . , Hon. Mr. MndI-‘hec: "It changed xthelr liability. A -Mr. lePa/ge: "The 1m that tho farmers were responsible would make a. great deal of difference to the Government in assisting them at this time, because they could be forced lo pay. ; ; Mr. Lea: ‘That statute was passed subject to be passed at the Asso- dilations annual meeting, and brought in by Order-in-Ocuncil. II was their own request." Hon. Mr. MacPhee: . But I am suggesting that then was one time when your Govern- ment had an opportunity of gun:- anteeing the account or the Potato Growers Association with the, bank, in order i0 give them the credit they wanted. DID YOU-DO IT‘! N0. YOU DEAL’! WITH MATTER. BY STATUTE. (Applnulb) The record of the party that h!!! so much now when it is Opposition IS WRITIEN RIGHT INTO THE STATUTES. The statute my hon. friends pnsnfl IMPOSED ON IT- ERY MEMBER. 0F THE ASSO- CIATION TIITE TOTAL OBLIGA- TIONS FOB. THE WHOLE AS80- CIATION‘. (Loud applause.) Mr. Dennis: "Mr. Chairman-J’ Mr. Lea: "Mr. Chairman. my hon. friend is straining a point. He know! that no member of the Association nver came to our government, or ever asked us. The situation is al- together different." Mlr. J. Howard MacDonald: “Bo far as I can understand, the As- sociation owes thr- bank so much. Am I right?" ‘Mr. McIntyre: "Sure." Mr. MacDonald: "And the bu! wants to be paid." Mr. ‘MoInytre: "Exactly." Mr. lAPage: “Noi" (laughter) Mr. MacDonald: "It is a. busin- ess proposition, and if the Point! Growers Association is in a littlc difficulty, I think the bank should stand behind them. Those substan- tial people that the Rustico mem- ber stands behind will back the! notes, I am sure. No bank in flu country would turn down such l proposition as that! If these gentle- men think that this Govprnmeni made a mistake in not doing that theywill have to take the answvi from the people o1 this country. 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