V. the same? He admitted that Charlottetown drewatargeiax

‘ but 'said, “give us plenty of money and we will give you govd

. monifflquently at this devotional exercise, than other chrisriaiis.

- “afflicts towards it, by means of canals, and of new and im-

.c;xpcntjc.of keeping their streets in repair. The porrr people from

‘ lelt it without leavrng his cream there behind hrm.

‘ thelton. the Solicitor Gene[al, because e was very willing to be ‘titli 1' so onerous an office as that it led by himselt and hln

he should like to know how he, purposed enabling men who.

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PROVINCIAL PAR LIAM ENT. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Saturday, 9th March. 11005! 08 1‘82 813.1; m ALTII. TE: STATUTE LABOR ACT.

Concluded from our last.) _

The Hon. Mr. 1onuo said the public roads m the neighbour: hood of Charlottetown had never been worse since he travelled them than they were last year; but whether their wretched wodition were attributable to the want of means, or the want nl'judgrneut, he was not prepared to say. (The hon. Mr. Swa-

1' ds." The hon.MrtSwabey might be right; he disputedii 113;, truancy might be all that‘was wanted. When he (the hon. Ml“. Young) was in Canada, he was not unobservant ot the state of the roads in that province. In the greater part of their 'néipal towns. the ways or streets were constructed rd wood, and Klimt: llke anhine, and there was a long line ol public road, ol about 12 feet wide, so consrructed. Five sleepem laid lengthwise along the road occupied its breadth of12 leer, and across these were laid sleepers 13 inches thick. The road \\“8~ excellent, and. in fine weather, travelling upon it was delightlul. Intuit: weather, he must admit, however, it was rather omer- Vifl; ' r then the road was very slippery, and one's horse was Iptwsayilsprayers mllt'h more frequently. than one might ' (bf. To Roman CathOIics, however, who WEFE'IIIUCIJ

this might be no great inconvenience. (“ Take that dowo, Re- paqtet'!" ftout the hon. Mr. Macdonald.) The great object 'in Gill-d1 had lately been, to facilitate communication between us diluent parts ; and they had made. and were Sllll making. great

proud roads. The progress of such improvements throughout {beacon-y was, no doubt, iii a great measure attributable to an beneficial influence of responsible government, and munici- .Fl "ablation. The Iron. and learned gentleman rte}! said. he thought it wnsa great hardship upon the inhabitants of Char- lottetoum, to have to keep the streets in repair. The streets ol Charlottetown ware, in fact, more cut up by the country pepple. with their heartily laden carts, than by the inhabitants oi Chur- lottotcwn themselves, and yet the farmer cunlrlbuterl nothing to the keeping of them in repair To render this burrheri less weighty to lhe.peoplc of Charlottetown, he would suggest the propriety of placing a turnpike gate upon each of the three pub lic roads leading into Charlottetown,_ and the exaction-ai each of these gates of a small toll, for every horse and cart passing through to Charlottetown. so that every! person might be ob igcd .to contribute to the repairs of the roads and streets which Were ofso much service to him. and which he was instrumental ltI ailing up. in the Legislature. he observed there was scztrcelr- an more money appropriated to Queen's _counly,' tor ll~ roads bridges, than to any other of the counties. This he thouulii unfair. Much more ought to be allowed on account or Charlotte‘- town and Royalty, because the town was the centre of all busi- uses, and all persons visiting Charlottetown passed over we Eoyalty roads. Ifit were_in the power or their horrors to d: sit. lie-would recommend their introducing tuinptkes into the bill. He was not certain that it was wrihrn their province so in amend the bill. He Would defer to the opinion ol’tthe hon. lllr. Brecken upon the subject, who was more an fail in all parlra~ memory matters ithari he (the lion. Mr. Young) could pretend t '0 33%. At allevents. although there might be- no prospect ol their carrying the introduction of iurnprkes this year. yet the introduction of the idea itself might be servrceable. as preparing the way for its adoption by a very liberal house. which be con- lyrically expected the next would be ' The bad roads, of which he had been complaining, had c0st him eight or ten carriage springs. ‘ I

The Hon. Mr. Macoomno said the hon. Mr- Young had, as “tablet the cut out of the bag All hrs boasted liberaliiv ended in" taking good care of his own pocket. and laying a in): upon the ponr farmer In driving his six greys. hl\' honor had broken hall a dozen carriage springs, and therefore he would establish mrnp’tlrcs, to lay an additional tax upon the’priol‘ l'arrner,briiigirrg bioproduce to market, for the improvement of the roads. _ He (the hon. Mr. Macdonald) was sorry to think that srrr h an ideet should be entertained for one moment by any member ol that house. The people of Charlotteto-rn were well able to bear the

thycottntry who Visited the town did so for the purpose of leav- ing money with the tradesmen. the merchants, the lawyers, and thenflleers of government.. whatever he the nature at the busi- nee: which brought the poor falmer l0 Charlottetown, he never Talk of lur- iher taxing the poor farmer, for the benefit of the people of Charlottetowm indeed! The proposal was monstroust unjust. “the in; paid by the inhabitants of Charlottetown, for the re- paint of their streets, wasinadequate to the end. letthe'rn lay an additional tax upon their orvn property. He was, in tact, satis- fied-that it was unjust to impose any tax but one upon property fflrbfleh a purpnseg' all money raised fordhe purposes of road nitkin , should be by a tax on real property—by a land tax; ilial Millie the fairest mode of raising means for the extension and improvement of our road communications: Some better mate. rial than and, he thought, might, however, be found forihe malt- ing and repairing of the roads The soil upon the roads. in canscquence of the repeated annual turiiings which it received. was becoming more,and more unfit for the purpose; it was. in fact,..wrought into a kind or mortar. Could, they not substitute stone or wood. There was plenty of stone for the gathering.

' The Hon. Mr. ’Swnuzv Would wrlliugly second the motion of

brat tr Justices. Their honors, perhaps, corild not decide whe- ther tlii's system or that system of road making were the best, can ifthey were called upon to do so; but he certainly thought tinglhcy ought to recognise a principle which was general all over the world; namely, that they who used roads should pay forthem. , .He thought the proposal of the hon. Mr. Young. WILh

pact to turnpikes, was a. very good one; and he Slitlultl be glad to See it followed up, although, if it were. it might, perhaps, t‘all‘tis heavily upon himself (the hon. Mr. Swabey) as upon any other individual in the community A iuruprkegate might be put upon the road leading to his farm, and the toll would in consequence press pretty heavily upon hirri. Persons coming to town with heavy loads of produce, generally carried money out of town; and as such persons made the most use of the roads, and cut them up the most, they ought to be made to pay for ihe use of them. We do not at present possess the means to make good roads, but the establishing ot turnprltes would doubtless so far increase our means as to render them adequate to thcrr proper end. I

TheHon. Mr. YOUNG moved his suggestion, and ihehon. Mr. Swabey seconded the motion.

The Hon. Mr. 'Pu'riias begged to enter his strongest dissent against the suggestion. Look to England, and see what great dissatisfaction was created by the existence of turnpike-gates. Look to Wales, and see what devastation these obnoxrous gates hadcaused, in that unfortunate principality. The turnpike-gates had been the cause of all the burning, havock, and _bl01)tl>tlud. which had lately been there experienced. He would not live in any country in which they were allowed to exist. If he were new resident in England and Wales, such was his abh ir'rence of-turnpiltes, that he would almost feel disposed to become a

I ' site. They ought not to be tolerated in any free country They were insulting to freedom and to tree men. A free man on t to bcallrtwed to travel in every direction, without any

so irritating interruptions. When a traveller arrived at one of these gates, he might find that be had forgotten his purse. and, having no money about him, the gate Would be cl0scd against his further progreSs, and he Would be obliged to retrace his steps. How provokingly insulting ton free man was such an interruption as this! He (the hon. Mr. Peters) would raise his voice for the protection of ihe tenaniry; he would loudly raise his voice against such doctrine, as had just been avowed. Would it not be a great hardship upon the farmer. if we were thus to impose ti. tax upon him, for the making of our roads in the Royalty, and the repairing of our streets in Charlottetown? If: merchant, any where in the country. erected a building in which to carry on a trade with the people of the surrounding district, would he not, with a view to the establishing of that trade, make agood road to his premises? Ii‘it would 'be his duty and interest to do so in the country, was it not equally the duty and the interest of the merchants of Charlortetowri to do

from the country in money, produce, arid goods; and, upon principle, the merchants were bound to make the public roads. and keep them in good and sufl‘icient repair,“ for at least five 1 miles out of term, that the poor man who was bringing his produce to town for their benefit might not be obliged to urge on his Jaded horse through 'lhe worst roads to be found in the country. He hoped ment‘of turnpikes would not be entertained fora morn-"n! by l theLegislatutc. Iflhe gates were erected. he should !iketo know how the poor farmer would be able to pay the toll, -- He should like to bear froin the hon Mr. Young how he puépgsed ! enabling H the suflering, the haraSSed. the bleeding temuiry,” as he and his friends delighted pathetically to describe them—

er. Young, said the wood was principally brought to town on

crrlorlv

to Charlottetown, many persons wt uld Iliereby be almost altoge-

oc obliged to leave their jackets

sortie trifling articles of Fr(ltlllCP,'hey might find the nselves able to relca~e their p'erlges. irrrteed policy of in rintarning them w.is very much doubted. _ Iriiron \vus ihrrrIv scattered over the face of the coriritrv, the CH- culatiirg medium I Tirr‘riprke-grites would almost amount to a compleze Illlerlllt‘ll'tlt

such a proposal were entertained here. it Would be rejected in the other House; at least, if it were not, its supporters Would be scouted l'roiii ths rustiiigs at the next election.

upon the system adopted by the Justices at the earl of one vea‘.

ably upon the North River Bridge, near .\l-'Leari’s, anil'uporrI other parts of the road leading to his own resirlencl'. said the faults which had been pointed out were nt.l fairly attributable ml the system in practice: the system Wris grind. ifI' Were properly carried out. of that Province was it lu:i my clay, and was. more suitable for

t-lurled by declaring llirit we should never have gorrl roads tiriiil

of Justices to Wliomthud been entrusted the management of the streets and roads of the Town and Royalty of Charlottetown; and he could unit but le '1 surprised at the manner in'which their services had been r‘ect'ied. they had been rendering the public a service, [hill be had i70nfi~ denily expecred any notice which might be taken ol'therii by the

of Justices. there were never more than three or rhern present.

patriry explanation ofthe hon Mr Swubey. he would beg leave to Withdraw his moxion Justices increased, beneficial effects would result from it; and that they would see the necessity of mending both their own ways and ours we

amendments, which were unanimously

thus, as one of the Board of Justices, under it Bill, of some of the provisions of |which lie disapproved.

the lowest ,bitld in some instances. although in others it was lound to be very prejudicial to the interests of the public. better to leave the contracror at libert sale or by private agreement. ercise of his discretion would ge the public. people were in the habit of agreeing not to bid against each other.

Rondsand Bridges in repair years ; the contractors, for their own sakes,

deceive. be the best plan. , His honor the PRESIDENT thought the farilr was not in t

a proposal so obnoxious as the establish- let". bl” i" the Superinle'ldmlh- was well able to answer it.

able to get four times money as they could get in any other way.

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according to his own account. never possessed a shilling. 10 Pay the additional tax which he proposed to lay upon them. He; (the hon. Mr. Peters), admitted that the farmers very seldom had money in their purses, but not that that was the case or} account of their being unjustly harassed The constderation o

the fact. however, led him to oppose any plan for laying an additional burthen upon them. Why, il‘turnpike—gates were erected, a pear man would scarcely be able to bring a load of wood to town, for the purpose of obtaining two or three shillings of ready money. wrthour buying a tax to pay thereon—(ihe lion

the ice). The hon. Mr. Peters thought a great quantity was brought to town by the high roads. Every litrle° market cart. how trifling soever its load, WouId have to pay the toll Where was the money to be got? It could pot be found, and, in its absence, he supposed one would have to pay with a pint of oats. anorher with a pint of barley. and a third with a few potatoes. He ihoug‘ir there were scarcely two persons in the Legislature who Would listen to such a proposal.

The Hon. Mr. Youuo Would like to ‘lmow who it was that 50 effectually emptied the pores of the poor tenantry? He llllt'lghl ll would be found to be the p‘t‘tipUt’lurS and proprietary agents. He had no wish to impose an additional tax upilll the poet tenantry God knrrWs they have enough to pay already! \\ hat lie_waiited was to give them good roads and bridges, that. they might the more easily visit Charlottetown forthetlispmal 01 the" produce and the transaction of any other business The hrm Mr. Maddonald had said, that the tenantry brought produce. geods, and money to Charlottetown. For the produce and the goods which they bring. they mtisi take money away..otherwise they would not be able to'find any for the payment ol grasping landlords and needy agents. (t- Name l" l‘rorii .tlie hon. Mr. blachrraId.) lie could name. birt lllal was nor the proper season for doing so The lion and learned gentleman concluded by saying that the establishment of trirnpihes Would be a benefit to the whole Island. ,

IIis Hon the PRESIDENT agreed with his hon. and l'etrned friend the Solicitor General, in every word which had fallen from him against the suggested establishment of 'I‘urnpikes in this ‘ Tut‘llplke\ wure little better than nuisances wherever they were established. and in a new cutinii v like this they would be complete runes. ’I‘hetlion. sriggesrer spoke ol'rhercby lal‘llllfll- log the intercourse with Cbarlotreiown; he however (his hum; Ihe President) thought no int-airs could be devrsed which Would, be more liker to inililule'agninst that inlr‘rtrourse Their honors

all knew, indeed every permit in the Iqalld knew the scarcity of!

the Circulating medium If Turnprkcs were erecied on the roads ilier tleliait‘erl the privilege of npprttuulimg the Town Til pay the Toll on their way to TOWrr would be in many an absolute iiii- po»sibility. Such persons, if determined llpOnlpl’nfl’etllllg..\\'t)|lltl or their car); in pliwn ivilh lb" I‘rillchnl‘kt‘epet until their return. when. probably by the sale rtl

The establishment of Turnpich would be bad policy in this Country Even in England, the, Our popu-

was exceediiiglr scarce, and the erection of

.fail social and business intercourse throughout the Island. If

The Hon M' luviito said it would not be fair to pronounce

No; nor at the end ol'two years

A series trfyears was requisite for the test. The hon

aenileriia-i. after criiumeiitirig unfavttur‘

He hurl iiaVellerI over New Brunswick The soil mad marking than the soil of this Island. generally speaking. The hoii. gentleman next pointed out the very inefficient manner in which ruls are generally filled tip upon .ur roads. and Cll'l-

the system of Sl'tIIU‘e Labour was .ilitigetlir'r expttitI-ul The Hon. Illr BRECKEN observed that he was one of the Board

In fact, so satisfied had he been thgt

Legislature Worrld be in the shape ol'a Vote of thanks - The Hon Mr. Youuo here stated, that he had heard it men- tioned as a facr, that at the last eiglitor ten meetings of the Board

The Hon. Mr. PETERS said, that after hurtling heard the excul-

He hoped that as the experience of the

H~-wever. before hesatiliiwn. lie \Villlld just make one observation: He was in the habit of travelling ovter riearlv the whole Island ; and no where did he trrtvel over such excellent roads as in the Berleque and Malpeqiie settlements. He would recommend our Justices to improve their own S}:\l€-Il of road-making by a reference to that of the Commissioners in those quarters. _ . ,

His Honor the PRESIDENT thought they might very easily :0 far improve their system, as to avoid leavrng pi's u! the corners of the streets for the lodgrnent of water and the entrappirig ol' unwary passengers.

The Hon. Mr Youso begged leave to ask the hon. Mr. Swabey, whether he thought the Justices had done their duty lasi year, ' »

The Hon. Mr. Swansv said. what they had done was before the eyes of the public, and the public must be their judges.

The Hon. Mr. YOUNG. Then. as the hun.1\1r. Swribey declined answering his question, he would answer it himself: they had riot done their duty. . .

The Hon. Mr Swanev thought he might appeal to the Hun Mr. Palmer, one ofthe Representatives quli'irltiiteiirwn, whom he saw at the bar. to bear Witness that his cnns'tilttents generally were satisfied, with what the Justices had done upon the streets and roads. t r'

The Hon Mr. YOUNG said it was at least to be hoped they would do better after the roasting which they had jusl received

The Hon Mr. Buncxuu wished the manage rieni ofthe roud~ could be left to the superintendaiice of the three hon. and learned gentleman, who had been so loud in their censure ofthe Justices; they would perhaps Soon discover that it was no agreeible or sinecurc office to be called upon to make good roads or keep them in proper repair without adequate means.

The Hon. illr. Yooxo said he had been trapped into the motion which he had made by the hon. Mr Peters; and he would, there- fore, beg leave to withdraw it

The H ru. .\Ir. E’s-runs repelled the imputation; he had merely suggested that it Would be well if, by some means or other. thr- annual ztmiuni to be expended upon the roads could 'be in creased. '

The Hon Mr. YOUNG said the great fault in the Bill was, that it made the poor pay as much as the rich; for a cornrnoii truck: mart paid as much as the hon. the Solicitor General.

The Hun. Mr. Swnuev referred to the character of the Statute Labour Bill, which was before this House, when he was a mem- ber of the Legislative Council before: he then introduced some agreed to by their honors, be other House He had

been called upon to act

but which were afterwards rejeCred by l

With reSpect to the practice, authorised by law. of letting jobs to

er, the mode. he believed. answered well enough

He thought it would be y. "ellllel‘ to let by public If he were left at liberty. the ex- rterally be found advantageous to It was very well known that at the pttblic sales, the

The Hon: Mr. Ill-DONALD would rather that the keeping our were let to contractors for a term of

I would then take care pairs; at present they too.often only study to He felt certain that letting for a term of years would

0 make timely re

he sys-

‘ He would beg leave to refer

he quesnlln to the hon '.lIr. Macnutl, who, as a Commissioner. The Hon Mr MAGNUTT said his experience enabled ,him to say

but the Commissioners, in letting jobs by publicauction. \

were as much Work done for any given sum of

The Hartford and Protection Fire Insuranc

in possession of till the iriftirmn persons who wish to effect Insurance, he will be ceive applications and traits: fax.

The hon Mr. Yourto said. that for the first time, perhaps. he agreed in opinion With the. hon. Mr. MtDonaId: he approved ofhts suggestion. .

The hon. Mr. Bnucnnu thought that such of their honors as had so unmeicifully censured the Justices fur the bad Stale of ihe roads, had lost sight ofthe great and continual tiafl‘ic upon the roads immediately leading into Chrii‘lutie'rown. The hon. Mr Young was one of those who made no litile use of the streets and roads, and he seemed to forget that his frequent appearance thereon, at one time With a cue-horse carriage, at another unit a carriage and pair, at a third. wuh a carriage rind three bur-93 a breast, one of them represenrirg a unicorn, and anon with no less than four in hand, must make couSrdetable havoc With our public ways: Seriously, however, the sum annuallyrnised for the repairing. of the streets and roads under the supeririteudence ofthe Justices waxquiie inadequate to the object. and, until the means at their command should be adequately increased, he was afraid they \vriul-l never be able to give entire snttslactton The hoti Mr: B eckeri. in Clllicllislon, said he wished to take that op- portunity of partly contrriricting a false report, respecntig the .Itlsllces, which might otherwise, peihops. go forth to the public rinrel'uied. He alluilr-d to the statement made by the hon Mr Young. who said that he had heard that :11.th last eight or ten meetings of the Ju~l|CC>, not above three of them had been pre ~erit iii out: time. There had been three oliictal meetings ot the Ju~tices from May. up ioihe present time; the first of these meetings. be (Mr Brecken) did not attend. but all the orhcr Just» ces were present; at the second meeting. Col. Lane was the only ribsenlee. he was at the time iii llre country on Militia duty; the third IDEI’llng “as attended by all the Justices, . _