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_ (continued from Page I) hy, they done in that regard? 5 fu-uwehavebeenabletodndou guey have not even communicate

with Ottawa, or the Federal author-

blur

ities on the matter. Unless somet is done at this session of the Legis

umm we can certainly charge them

1.

'gm to implement their`ao ,mn promise to thepeople. It shoul be selmlaerea that when s peutle pgty comes before the people of th pg-qv-lnce and pledges itself as t mpeg-al party ‘did in 1927 on this sub yet, some attempt at least would b made to implement that pronise

it is at all possible. Even if this Gov- ernment had decided that it was im-

ptmible for them to consider th scheme financially, they should hav

0 |°l¢l¢l’ of 'this Government would t even drive ln a car that had come é out of the “blood money" of tm;

¢°\U\¢\'!» let alone use it for his oem pleasure and sport. (Applause,

We all admit, Mr. speaker, that

the teachers’ salaries are not nigh, 1 do not believe there is any reason- able man in this Province who will

3 say that the teachers are paid g uv.

ing wage. I have taken some little

his interest in the educational aifairg of

° this Province, and I have noticed

; time and again the enthusiasm and

M EUBYBY that the school teachers in

the majority of cases throughout. the Province put into their work and it

e is indeed most discouraging to a good e mini’ of those people to know that

' o_ there is no prospect for s. livelihood

come into this _House and told us s

They should have given us the infor- mation. and their reasons. so tha

th 4 le would know the facts fo

° new el they must take into consideration not

themselves. But the idea in this cas as in many other cases, seems to b to let this plank dangle in the ai and do service at another election We know that at the last election

was of considerable service; it was always facing those who were oppos-

for them, or of making their profes-

t sion a life work in this Province. 1, When this Commission dee; meet,

e 01111! the entire school system but 1, they must see to it that cur public

school teachers who are taking care

,é of the youth of the land will be pro-

perly paid. There are some excellent shcool teachers leaving the Province ear after car because the cannot

l my hon frlelldé. and it may be y y Y

trhvat we shall hear of it again whe the time for another contest come around. I think, however, that th matter should have some considers

If there is nothing wg to be done, at least let us have that much in formation. Will the Government hav

the l1'il.l‘\klll!lI to tell the people that

they will not put this plan into op eration? Then we shall know the po sltion we are in. (Applause).

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Thc Educational Problem'

‘l There is another matter on which I wish to make a few remarks; that is the educational question, which has been receiving considerable at- .tentiorfat this session. The question

_probably has assumed a different

n make a livelihood here, and we should I have a system whereby those good L! teachers would be retained. It is a.

noble profession, but you cannot ex-

ti pect any man to sacrifice the chanc-

es he has in life. no matter how pub-

lic spirit/ed he may be, for a profes-

; sion in which he cannot make a. dec-

ent livelihood.

- \»'*~. _ 5 Government Unprcpared

The answer has been given to the

school teachers that the funds of the Province are not adequate to pay them an increase. tl was also stated that an increase to thé"t£achers would mean an increase in taxation on the farmers. It has‘even been said on the floor of this I-louse. that it would be held against the teachers that they had threatened to strike.

form than at previous sessions of I do not believe, Mr. Speaker that

the House, which may be accounted for-_by the manner in which the teachers have been pressing for an increase in salaries. I-led they not made the final effort, and threaten- ed to strike. _it is possible that this

also might be another matter left

dangling in the air. Up to the pres- ent time, a compromise has been ‘arranged between the Teachers Federation and the Government to have a Commission investigate the whole educational system and B150 to make suggestions to the Govern- ment whereby the teachers may be paid a living wage.

I notice that when the leader 01’

the house was.deali.ng with this mat- ter of our educational problem, when he touched on the matter of salaries cs he did on two occasions, he was very careful to iell us about the low salary paid to the Primc Milli-Sttl' °f this Province. In the Draft Address he dealt with this mater, and also ln the budget speech. He told us that me Prime Munsters salary WHS 01° lowest of any Prime Minister in Canada. I do not contradict him 00 tl1stm\tts:,:l.o¢ 1 ulmlr he muht 11- so-have told this House. I-S W° ‘“ know that the leader of the Govern- ment in not satisfied with one port- folio, but that he has reached out and taken s. second, with another very fair salary of $1500 added to the $2.000 which he receives as P¢’lm0 Minister. And that is not all, Mr- Speaker, I would not brinll ml! mm' ter up if it had not been “Sed 5° strongly, to my mind, to show that the teachers' salaries were PFUPHNY high ough, 1 think that was the idea vxich prompted my TWH- mend to use this illustration. But there is a third salary which he receives by way of indemnity durlhs il” 5”' sion. _'rl-ue, it is _not very terse. but we all receive that amount and it alone is almost equal to the average salary paid to the school 'teachers throughout this Province. That makes three salaries which he is re- ceiving; but that is not all. Added to that again is another indemnity for loss of time in attending the trustee meetings at Falconwood Hos- pital. Bealdes that there is still a lit- tle more: free travelllnk ¢¥P°“'°5 lor instance and s fine car to drive around in at the public eXI>¢°B°-I I havgttme und again heard the Pre- mier when he was in the 0Pl)°|"|°“ criticise the than leader of the Gov- ernment for udnga car at the el- penae of the country, and if that ac- cusation was just and fair then it ll flat and fair now. (Applause).

lfotor Cars and “Blood MOM!-”

Furthermore. the leader of the OD' bolltion today when he was l¢ld°l' of t_n|s.House was accused time and asain oapubue putter-nu by politi- oaima mosey. uname-never# vh° were hired and nent, out _to talk about tbtm, very ear. that it was boulht lNU~‘Ql,i|\'ctltast the Liquor Com- I al today. M?- ee- M °- wc*

that is correct. I believe that there

is a certain sympathy with the teahc- ers throughout the Province. How- ever, the same people who have felt sympathy with them may have roul- ized that the nuances at the present time were not sufficient to give them on inmcse in salaries. 211': what has been the Governments attitude with

’ reference to this matter? They knew

that there was dissatisfaction a year ago among the teachers with regard to their salaries. They should have prepared th¢_m_=clv¢s______sc,_;lh=3-I-_.Eben this threatened strike was about to come off they would be in a position to' meet the teachers and at least compromise on their salaries. They could have done this had they gone to the proper source, that is to the Federal Government, and pressed our claims in such a way that we would have had results.

I might say further. with refer-

ence to education, that when the findings of this Commission arc brought before the House, this Gov-

ernment should be prepared to take immediate action in the matter of increased salaries to teachers.

Prohlbitlon and Smuggling

There is another matter which has

been referred to by nearly every speaker, though in different ways. That ls Prohibition. 'I am not going to argue the pros and cons of the subject at this time, Mr. Speaker. The question of Prohibition vs. Gov- ernment Control is not the question before the House at the DWSBM time- That was decided in 1927, and it is again to be decided. we have been told, in July of this year. But what I wish to point out is that this Gov- ernment pledged iiself to enforce rroalslum. 100 per cent- They are pledged to stop smuggling. There was to be no such thing as smug- gllng after the Saunders Govern- ment was elected. That was the DW' mise on which they gained power, that they would make this Province dry; “gg dry as the Stlllrl acted," according to the local Liberal organ at that time. The leader of this House stated on several occasions that the smugglcr would be put out of existence entirely: that it would be easier for a camel to pass through a needles cy. than for a nnuuler to land a dollars worth of booae on the Prince Edward Island shore. Those may not have been his exact words. but that was his meaning, and and that. is what the P60910 unda' stood. Now let us see what has boob done in that regard. V

H” gmuggling entirely ceased? A

short time ago an honorable gen- tleman from thi. Province-a l1l'°m~ inent Liberal-made the statement on the floor of the Senate Ohlmbef st Ottawa that there was still a mat sen of smussllnz rom! °“= “W “ had demoralised entire communities In this Province. That must have tee.. quite a revelation to some neo- ple wire mime my hon. friends

the Saunders' administration. We know that the prevention of smug- Sling is a' difficult matter. I- agree with what one of the memserior the Government said the other day, that it is almost impossible. However, in the camlllllli of 1927 we were as- sured tliat our coasts would be pat- rolled by a fleet of motor boats and speed craft of all kinds, that these boats would connect up with a land force of from fifteen to twenty-live Ptlllcemen of the very highest class. and that through the combination of these two forces. assisted by g, mn- erful Commission and a specially in- terested and vig!en¢ class of legislat- ors. the smugglers would absolutely be put out of business.

Laxity of Enforcement

We all know that this promise has

not been fulfilled. and that the SmU8Bl11‘lg of liquor is going on. If there was only $130,000 _worth of Ll- quor consumed in the Island, that would not be a very great amount. In fact, it would be a reduction on what was consumed the previous year of about $10,000, if it were not for the fact that there has been 'a reduction in price, The present Gov- »rnment claims _that it has reduced the price from two and a half to ten per cent; on some lines of booze they have reduced it two per cent and on some others they reduced, it as much as twelve per cent. However, the fact remains that even this amount of $130,000 of liquor consum- ed at reduced prices does not rep- resent what hss been drunk in this Province, since we have not account- ed for what the smuggler and the bootlegger has sold.

The point I wish to make is this:

line the Government fulfilled its pro- mise to the people that they would endeavor to the best of their ability, to prevent smuggling on the shores of this Province? Last, year, during the summer and autumn, smuggling, as we know. was carried on at an extraordinary rate. So glaring was it that even the mouthpiece of the Lib- eral party, the Patriot, had the cour- age, ,ln one of their news items, to slate that the beautiful weather which was then prevailing had cn- abled the smugglcr to land his goods without any hindrance on the North Shore. No doubt the editorial pen slipped when that item went in or the censorship must have relaxed to enable this comment to be made. At any rate, it was a true statement of the conditions which prevailed last summer. `"

.ha Example Nearer Home V

It ‘was rather amusing yesterday

to listen to one of the hon. members in condemning Government Control. He made the statement that over at Port Elgin, or Baie Verte, or perhaps in both places, he had seen, or some- one had told him of having seen, a man going into a place under Gov- ernment Control and in ten minutes he was able to get three bottles of boon.

Hon. Mr. LePage: Correct. Mr. McLure: Weil, if he had work-

ed rapidly, and if he had enough cash, ,he should have been able to bring out more`thsn that in that time.

Hon. Mr. LePage: I guess that is

all‘the money he had ‘

Mr. McLurc: That may be. 'How-

ever, tue hon, member from Rusfico need not go to the neighboring pro- vince of New Brunswick to get in- formation of that kind. If he would take up a watchful position on some of the streets of Charlottetown he would be able to see some men go into a rum shop and in less than three minutes he could see more than three bottle, of booze come out of that place. Why travel so far afield for information, when you can get it at your own door? I was rath- or surprised at the hon. member from Rustlco going so far to bring out a fact that he could see every day right in the city of Charlotte- town.

. Hon. Mr. I.ePage: Question.

Mr. McLure: Question, he saysl

The other day I was an eye-witness myself to three men going into s rum shop and in less than two min- utes, by the tick of the clock, those men cams out, each apparently with a bottle-how many more you couldn't tell. because their grips were full. It may have been one or it may have been I. dozen. And I am sorry to say that two of them were mem- bers of this Legislature.-not on this side of the House. I had no inten- tion, Mr. Bpeaksr, of saying anything about anybody going- in for a bottle of booaabutlwauttoshéwtbstwe don't have to go to New Brunswick of Ontario for a few illustrations with reference to this matter. Premise laundenr I think my

l\on.n'iend,sineshehs|medsthat statement; should-clear tm the mat- tsr and dye lie the _ugly of those

`tssttnenwuae|mvu1\os\M\<1»llll“l»;'. . _

Mr. MCLUICZ Well, MT.‘Sp¢lk¢r,

I

do not have to give those names on the floor of this House. A _

Hon. Mr. LePage: You can't i.n-

sinuate.

Mr. McLurc: I am not inslnuatlns

anything, but I can give the Prem- ier the information privately. We all knew the conditions. 'rife' Premier himself is aware of them. I am not holding it against any man, myself; neither does he. I would not have mentioned this matter, but why go to the other _provinces looking for a little information that we can always

find right at home.

Hon. Mr. LePage: A point of ord-

er. Mr. Speaker. The statement has been made that certain members around this House were seen coming out with two or three bottles. Wevare all here and this should be cleared up, or the member that made. the statement should take it back. I for one deny that I was in the party. (Laughter). I demand that heeshould mention the names or retract his words. _

Mr. Angus MscPhee: Or whether

this liquor was bought at the Ven- dor‘sl Because we can buy liquor to- day in town legally or uniegally, and Mr. McLure should explain. Because if you buy it legally I don’t think it is any man‘s business. (Laughter). They might buy it for a sick person.

Mr, Mcflul-ez The hon. member

from New Haven has reason to come to the support of his colleague from Ftustico. I just want to say this. When I was citing this instance I did not say what rum shop or how they had bought it. It can caslly be found out by going over and looking at the re- cords in the vendor's shop within the last ten days. There you will find whether it is legal or illegal. The hon. member from New Haven says that it would be all right if it was legal: I say the same with reference to the remarks of the hon. member from Rustlco. It was quite all right, in New Brunswick, to go into a. liquor shop and buy some liquor from the liquor store. Both are legal, though under different fon-ns of administra- tion anddlfferent acts. ,

Liquor Consumption

Mr. Speaker, I do not propose to

argue the pros and cons of Prohibi- tion or Government Control, Prohi- muon is me law of the land at the present time, and the Government has pledged itself to do all in its power to do away entirely with the drink traffic. Let us look for a mom- ent at the amount of liquor consum- ed in this Province last year through the Govemment vendors; $130,000 worth. We have not been able to get very much information with regard to this matter. I do not say it is too much liquor; there may have been a good many sick people, and I think that almost every doctor prescribes liquor for some of his patients. There may be some who do not have alco- holic patients, but wc never hear of any me/dlcal man who is not prescrib- ing liquor to some extent at least; if there are, we should like to know. From the little information that we have been able to get from the Ll- quor Commission the records show that almost every doctor in this Pro- vince has been taking up his full quota of prescriptions. That is the condition, according to the informa- tion that this House has. And that is under Prohibition as administered by a Government that is pledged to stop all drinking other than for med- icinal purposes.

I do not believe that any member

of this Legislature will say for a mo- ment that $130,000 worth of liquor is used in this Province for medicinal purposes. If it is, the doctors must be prescribing a little drop for al- most every patlent, because it means that from tire babies in the cradle to the old people throughout the Prn- vince, we are .all .consuming about $1.50 worth of liquor per capita per year. ‘

But that is only part of the story.

If that was all the liquor consumed in the Province ‘it would only be a mere bagatelle. Nobody knows, and nobody can estimate the amolmt of money that ig spent in alcoholic drinks in this Province. I think per- haps lt is a safe bet to say that five time that amount is consumed. I would base that on the smuggling that takes place around our Province. Hon. members of this 1-louse who live near the coast'-line know for them- selves the amount that is smuggled ln that direction. However, I am not going to say very much more with respect to this prohibitory law. In July of this year we are promised a plcbiscite. That plebiscite may go one way or the other, and it will then bc' a matter for the people to decide.

The Plcblsolto

V We' were informed yesterday by an hon.-member of the Government, that this Government would be quite pre- pared to adopt Government Control if the Plebisclte went that way. 1

.was rather sioprised to hear that re-

mark, Mr. Speaker, because I believ- ed from what my hon. friends said on several occasions that if Govern- ment Control ever came into force by the will or voice of the people, they would immediately resign office. I gathered that they would have nothing to do with such a terrible act. Now we find, from a little dis- cussion on the floor of the House the other day, that some members con- sidered it would be wise to have three questions on the piebisclte ballot, and that it would be a good thing to sive the people a chance to vote _in light wines and beer. “Are you in favor of Prohibition or Government Control, or would you like a little light wines and some good beer?" <1-Hushterl. wny au this hearing |1- ter all that _has been said about Pro- nllltlonc li just snows not my 'few llon. members of' this Legislature are sincere with respect to Prohibition, either on this side oz the House or tho other. We all want Prohibition for the other fellow, but we don’t‘ want it for ourselves.

There is just another little matter

I wish to mention with reference to Prohibition. Some time ago the ex- president of the Temperance Al- liance in making an address in one of the churches of this city charged the Saunders Government with failure to implement its pre-election pledges of prohibition enforcement. The lectur- er enumerated his several charges, and so far as I am aware, ,Mr. Speak- er, nonttempt was made, either in the Liberal press or by Liberal speak- ers to contradict his statements. Those charges still remain unanswer- ed, and we may take it, therefore, tha they represent the undisputed facts. The statements of the ex-pre- sident of the Alliance were 'similar to those we have made on the floor of this House with respect to laxity of enforcement. There is ne doubt, that the people of this Province wanted Prohibition since they voted for it, and if this Govrenment was as *sincere as the people in saying that _the Province could be made as dry as the Sahara desert. then it is up to them to see that the selling of liquor for beverage purpose; is stopped en- tirely.

Mounting Liabilities

While the Premier was delivering

'his Budget speech a few nights ago he went into a great many details, and drew one very fine point be- tween debt and liability. I am not going to argue that point with him, only to say that debts and liabilit- ies are neither of them desirable. None of us -want them in our per- sonal buslness, neither should we want them for our Government.

With respect to the debt, the»Pre-

mier told us that ‘there was only a deficit of some $1,559.15. I do not see why they did not turn that into a surplus of seventy-five or ninety thousand dollars. It was just as easy from their method of book-keeping to show a surplus as it was a small deficit. However, that difference be- tween ordinary expendlture and or- dinary revenue is not .thc true state- ment of our indebtedness. We may talk as we please, and we may cam- ouflage this statement and the oth-

er statement, but we cannot get olesr of the fact of our provincial liabil- ity. Our debt is increasing every year. During the past year it increased over $200,000. The Public Accounts themselves show an increase of $192,- 000 and I am quite sure that if we had before us the report of the Ex- ternal Audlior it would show that the liabilities were increased at least $40,000 or $50,000 more. For if my hon. friends had no unpaid bills, why were they afraid to have an indepen- dent audit of their books? (Ap-

plause).

The External Audit

The leader of the Government told

us that his reason for not having an Exfemll Audit was that it cost $500. One other hon. member of this House stated that it was not worth that much; that it was only a kind of graft that was thrown out on cer- tain occaslons by all Govemments, and that we can very well dispense with it altogether. Now, Mr. Speaker, I do not look upon an External Aud- it as a means oi giving s. little "graft" to some party heeiers. Cap- able men have been employed on these audits in the past, and it was a certain satisfaction to the public as well as to this House in know that an impartial audit was being made show- ing the exact financial position of the Province. The Premier and the membe'i‘s of his Govemment have laid themselves open to the aeverest criticism when they did not live to tau Legislature ans to the mole of the Province the advantage which an External Audit affords of inves- tigating the nnancial accounts. , I have nothing to say with regard to our Provincial Auditor, Mr. John Anderson. I believe that he is cap-

work. But we know that he is only auditing the revenue and expendit- ures; he is not given the same com- mlmlon that an external auditor is given; his work is entirely different. Consequently, while ,he may audit correctly the ordinary expenditure and revenue, he ig not given that au- thority to enquire into the different departments as to what is accruing for the year and the contracu that have not been paid. I might refer to one instance, just to show the ne- cessity of an external auditor's re- port,

Liquor Assets ,

The External Audit of 1927. sche-

dule F' 5, page 18, shows that there was on hand at the Liquor Commis- sion siores an asset in the shape of goods and in cash of $36,000 or there- abouts. $16,000 of that amount was in cash in the Royal Bank; the bal- ance was liquors on hand and paid f0r'. In the same year, at the end of December, 1921, external auditors. Messrs. W. L. Poole and H. A. C. Scarth reported that this asset of $36,- 000 had increased to $45,000. About $23,000 of this amount was then in cash in the Royal Bank. That was the report at the end of 1927, and we accepted _it.

Now we come to the year 1928.

During that year the Liquor Com- mission had a business of $130,000 in sales and about $10,000 in fines,-a.

ETax, I challenge them to place tha.

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'reduce taxation. The Cnnservxative

implemented their pledge and reduc- ed taxatlon on the farmers by 2.0 per cent. They also took off that ob- ` noxious tax known us the Bell.

W mo. Mr. Speaker. to near mem- bers of this Governnient who will still get up and talk about that won-

of all kinds of taxes; and the leader cf the Opposition \vu:= criticised very Severely the other day for taking it 'off the Stfltllfesi of", in other word

tax, and that is why they relieved the people of paying it. As I said on

members of the Government are sin-

tax on the Statute Books of this

Applause).

use. You would take it off.

Mr. McLurc: Certainly we would

take it off. Why wouidn't wc take oil'

Inn unjust tax 'that you pccpie had (put on.

M-\'. HOIHCG Wright: You haven'

shown the injustice yea.

total of $140,,000. It is reasonable to assume that if the Paton Commis- sion in 1926-27 'could make a. profit on $160,000 worth of liquor of some $57,000, this Government or this Liquor Commission must have made, cn the same basis, 540,000 possibly more. Of course we have no account to go by, but that is, I think, ,a mod- erate estimate. Add that $40,000 to the $45,000 assets on hand at the end cf 1921, and you have $85,000 of the assets of this Province to be account-

ed for. Yet when the Public Accounts came down this year there was no record of this money in any shape or form. We know that $45,000 of

those assets were there on Dec. 31st, 1927, as shown by their own external audit. We have .had no explanation as to where this money has gone, or the increase in profits that has ac- crued. Yet my hon. friends will say that there is no need of an éxtemal audit. Here is a. shortage in the ac- counts of the assets of this Province of over $80,000, and I claim that it was the duty of the Government to have furnished a statement of this account to the House. (Applause).

Pays All Bills-Takes No Proms

This Government, Mr. Speaker, is

liable for every dollar of loss under the Prohibition Commission. Suppose that the Commission had a. bad year in business; suppose they did not make a. profit but that instead they had a loss of $40,000. The treasury of this Province would have to pay that loss, just the same as the School Supply if there was a shortage in that department. And yet we are expect- ed to accept the Public Accounts of 1928 as a. satisfactory account of the year’s business, without any account of this asset of over $80,000 in the hands of the Prohibition Commis- sion. (Applause) There may have been other assets that have been spirited away in like manner. We cannot tcll with the information that is avaliable. That is why we claim tllat it is absolutely necessary to have a proper accounting.

It has been said repeatedly on the

floor of this House that the Govern- ment would not take ally money from the Prohibition Commission ai- though, as I have pointed out. in a case of loss they would have to pay the bills. I am not acquainted with all the legal points in the Prohibition Act, but I believe there is s, clause in it which states that the Commission shall report to the Govemment at least twicc a year, and that all pro- fits on hand over $200 shall be paid into the provincial treasury. This Government has had no report from

thing, it seems, about its financial condition. That only goes to prove again what I said before, that they are not making any sincere effort to enforce prohibition or to look after the financial interests of the Pro-

vince.

Taxation Pledges

The leader of the Government,

during his budget speech, said that the provincial debt had been increas- ing year after year. In the last year and five months, as we know. it has increased by almost half a million; and what 1, going to be the result? The Premier touched on that sub- ject very gingerly. He said that all these debts would eventually have to be funded, and it would mean in-

the House. and the people generally do not _want to hear those whisper-

'abie msn. and well able_to do his

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the Commission and they know nn- I

creased taxation. We on this side of

ings about increased taxation. Both parties have pledged themselves to

that it was unjust when they voted my hon. friends out. (Applause) As ll sale when I was interrupted, lf th

Vendor of the Govemment and the

c

members °“ that Sid” °f "‘° H°“5° of these drags on hand and

lwere really sincere. if they uellev that the Poll Tax was the fairest and most equitable of all the taxes, why do they not put their sincerity into

this seslon? (Applause). _

“D. T.” Governments

lyears, Mr. Speaker, you will ilnd a remarkable .history in connection. with debt and taxation in this Pro- l vince. In fact, you might well de- scribe the Liberal Governments as

mean by that that they have had

tract that too if they continue buy ing $130,000 of booze and selling it without profit! But the D. T`s. as ap plied to the Liberal Government and the Liberal party means this: If you

both parties, you will find that Lib

ihave accumulated, or the taxation

iithat has been put on the Statute ibooks. Almost 90 per cent. of all the 'deficits and nearly 05 per cent of all |taxatlon has been given to us by the 'Liberal party. Consequently we on

tthis side of the House, when we hear

like io come out squarely and say, as we said last year to the leader of the Government, that we will not stand for increased taxation. (Loud Conservative applause).

Interest Charges Climbing

The members of this House know

that our farmers at the present time

,arc not in n position to pay increas lcd taxes, And we arc getting in crcascd taxation now from our ln- terest charges alone, which is surely 'sufi‘icicnt. I think some hon. gentle- iman made the statement the othe

alone is 12 cents per acre for every acre of land in Prince Edward Isl .and. We cannot get away from the fact that our debt is yearly increas-

ing and that the amount of interes *is becoming more and more n bur ‘dont upon the taxpayers of this |1"rovincc. Last your it amounted to $117,000, which Ls ullnost $1.50 in .every man, woman and child in the Province. Next year lt will be con-

islderably more. lt ig a big interest to pay, and I think the Government will he wcll advised to go slow ln their spending operations and con sidcr that our dcbt is now sufficient-

‘ly large for the income of our people.

When a Government comes into

'power pledged to make revenue and expenditure met without bon-owing, 'I believe, Mr. Speaker. that they

ishould live up to that pledge, even if they break a good many of their other prommes. That is the important one. We often talk about what we can do for the agriculturists in this Pro- vince. There is one thing that any Govemmcnt can do. and that is re- duce the rate of taxation on the far-

thing of real benefit to our f:.r:nln population.

Public Werke

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erencs to the eg that

party under the Stewart Government ,mm “_ nam,” 'MR we bl

‘very little loifar.-dale seas that is the Public worn

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S d V from the head of that aun ers Poll Tax. It is surprising mem’ but I hope that at B 1

we shall have a full report work that has been carried

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ing the past year sugg

derflii Poll Tax. Why, it was the most nom. of me Howe in 1934

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JIM’ the most’ equitable' the mrest and again last year that it

in the interests of e deb portfolio members, .lp tabl eports, would make a. d

for lmplememin a mm” th h" nouncem°nt of the P0lici had made Th gc P ij" at ° Government at the same I k ' e °"5°"a “e “MW would make the budget de oo ed upon that Poll Tax as the more important to us au people louked “pon it' as an ‘"‘5“5t see why the heads of these

ments should lag behind b

,h H hi only means that those of us

o, cor of t s House before, if the to speak before the Minister

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ccre in what they any about the Poli the departments’ or even

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Province again. (Loud Conservative works im. I am Boing to

Hon. Mr. Mclntyrc: It would be no when this Government 5

on a new road policy, and $100 000 on road machinery, fortunately threw aviiiy 01' all the old m hip , had to scrap to make roo

him now

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110 PPO Y will say that is 9. criticism

Mr. McLu:‘e: The pcopic snowed Come to the recommenda

few minutes They were t new system, they believed

° road drag was a nuisance

art Government had some

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cardcd .hem all Now the ister of Public Works is h drags made, and am formed that he has gone b

action and re-enact the Poli Tax at,`\Ste‘vu.1_ Fancy uf mad m

road dragging. (Applause) commend him for seeing th his ways in discard ng e r md that hc is man enougl

If you go back for a number of img; and lnaugumtg the 1

system, because, Mr Speak know that there is no betta of keeping our mods in n

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giving them s. good, har than by dragging

the “D.T." Governments. I do not done at frequent intervals

I said it is hard 'to Public Works De rtment have not heard from th

will go back to the ’90‘s or further himself but when the le and follow up the political history of Golcmment was speakin;

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Budget he stated that it

eral Governments always stand for get tp this province to bu Deficit; and Taxation. Take our machinery They spent 5 present deficit and the deficits that the greater part of that

purchase this machinery, a never known it to be ngur way the Premier flgurfr speech He said that tl was worth more now than purchased it I suppose friend had been looking

whisperlngs of ~increascd taxation, Public Accounts and saw w

$5,000 had been paid for those machines Posslbl that another $15 000 of r had been done which h been paid for He added t and $8,000 to the $100 000 5

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ery is worth more today it was purchased If that tinue for the next me ye bc a revelation because if ' like that can p ove v

time it is repaired it will b crful asset to the Provinc er, I do not think any 1

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day that thc taxation from interest ,V

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t brouzht up _ Budget debate It is im]

fol‘cw them ali, or to go the notes of the various sp I would be taking up mor

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'ue just two other items mention, however, and 0 is vllth reference t farm One of the memb other side of this I-louse statement that this farm duced a surplus rofit in year of some 8500 or 86| glad to hear that Person Minister of Agriculture seat I would congratulate But there was something statement I refer to wht not lmderstand The im created by the hon me Government who discuss ter that prior to this coming into power there