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INIILRIIIUBQI-IQAIZIOUIIGIIIIKE

.. "eh.- Ilswum.-¢..n~.m=.ue u A _ comparing the work of nine with

‘itu.."'..'..lvi in politics, and h. any fr}... loo»... in Tignish who stat- Mve gotten under my ho friend’ ed a lot of liquor had been landed skin. ButIonnmul-o " ‘ uidtilutnoltdaaiaworom- lbulhehumuwvery fdmnoomnodiduot‘ quotetbe satncer. (Applause) ply hon. iriendJ name. my} mtheiemnywerey "no convictions‘, ‘Imp- The item carried.

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101W llllsl.~--when-he~himself~ knows perfectly well that the thirty or

forty men have-many duties to per- ; r; ‘m4, 5° .

Administrfixtxitcn of Justice: Jails. . n .14’. M; ‘ . ‘mm “Prov,” d" the l Queen's Co y, 00430. - V- _ on, _ _, _|V-.K'ZBIIBC ‘Who was . m“. . .. .. . Zllll Jaer- era received‘ a. few letter; of com- id red also. . Ml‘. loPage said ‘he noticed the "N" V!!!" 511310115" Atlelllel. flelwllll" __ - '3“ whwhw‘ m" “T”? “d-"hkh "lllnllellllll ll "lnlshl be all right 51hr. Alien said the‘ Summerside FOIIOWIIIE Conditions Ofitll estimate was a thousand dollars Ml’: WWW“: "Pil- lmdl-‘l’! W" "Wm ‘m “V” “m ""11“l'l"-'°"‘ but he. Mr- LePase. knew there registrar of deeds gets 81.000 and F t ‘ under last Year's expenditure. "Are ldr- forage said that in looking Attorney General.’ l le-lllly not dlgltllulll afoul additional were "an awful lot" that came to in Charlottetown he gets $450 h e9 you 80m‘ go reed them k5." he oils. the mport of the Police ho Hon. Mr. "iliaclfenzie: ‘And who elgliellse un rthe Rovincial Ponce. him with regard to the sciiooners more. The amounts should be more Maud Al“ m" “km; saw a lot of unnecessary things, was acting‘! W °h We olllselvos would have lo unloading and the drinking that neuly Qqupl, H; took objection to nun,“ m“ n,‘ m‘. °" Hon. Mr. MaoPhae: “I may 5w that should never have been Mr. Campbell: “I was acting, and lgllllllélhllila- I think lt is only lair to was going on. The trouble was. he designating the Queens County headache Elrsuhllticpeins quite frankly that although the ‘Tfgylémiiltelllbol Porlolw 1:111!‘ Ihwill say to my hon. frlerd that WP in mind. ‘thought, that many peqplg we" L“, Con“ u oqhaflomwwn L“, gar-union “Hm yg in e usico ere was no settlement out of scared to stand up and toll the Courts." |,,u|,,,,,,,,,,(,,. rlixirzxmnhhm

By Conservglfive Me mbers

Resenlment 0n Behalf Of The Rustico Community

Expressed By Mr. D. F. ‘Bethune At Persistent’ References To Alleged Lawlessness At Rustico .By Mr. LePage, Whose Statements Are Also Answered By, Hon. Mr. MacPhee, Hon. Mr. Mac

Kenzie And Mr. J. H. MacDonald. e v _.

legislative Chamber, April 2. The I-Iouse in committee on Sup- ply. Mr. Hunter in the chair.

matter of nraintenI-nce of Jails is

chimed u, my department, y; 9,01,. d ct had been picked out among court and the iudgm ‘ of the rcopie what were the gum;-

my mm "my" me Department o; the criminals. Special reference court was delivered. I strongly re- " h gown designs“; the germ"; 91m uluritis irhnllsn arches Public work,“ I h“, wmungd h been made to the Ford boys. sent the imputations which have I?‘ as been suggested that some THOSE 70,000 GALLONS where tmy are iocavdy spur- and Pelvis WEAR "$2223?" with that department and have l-le. Mr- I-elflase. didnot shin]: their been made tbroiizhout the iength- °' an” "F" a" m‘ “bill”, °l ‘he Mr. J. n. MaeDoi-lai = “When it 1:33am“ ‘mum ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, m,“ w, “m, mm than, as w crime was very serious. Three oi and breadth of this Province on P" 1W- We know that lfl molly Mr. J. Howard MacDonald: "It comes to putting through these llls- 8..., s“; m“ welklnkioo what would b, Mum‘; Th, “M, them only got twelve months the iudgment which was made in Y"?! before we had the Mounted strikes me that the junior member timates my hon. friends areinfavor shoulders gporr pliniulllael magm- 0g mummmme 1g wnduot. apiece. while the other chap was this case." (Police here, men from this Province for Rustico (Mr. Bethune) has cor- of raising the Estimates, while they I "- Morton's Tod

let clear. why. he asked should were taken into the ranks in other rected an impression and that the talk fOf hours ohouvthe need oi $..".',;'22§‘.:.?:.'“ 35°35 3,25,,

cd by the Public Work; Depart- ment; it, is merely for the purpose

of keeping tho expenditure under the “Baum-mm o! Mmmmmwn i, (lama; “mm. s pal-blew." m", mm M“ manna" q have all‘: ouaidle ththl: pwlgro- go to the public of this Province. economy, why not cut out this Bum- neuru mls “m,” this to say, that those gentlenlen| - Wm l?" 9 "I18 namely. that the people of Rustico mersido registry office altogether? mhlullplsm ,,,,,,,|,,,,,, Ilulbs curvature mgmwhuulh

of Justice that it is charged here.

r have not tho specific items but 1 - RPM” “These boys um 5,11,,” m, "qmmenu u“, y," particularly mentioned. why should ‘within bounds? We have heard a would be W? many more men out plause) the business for Kings County, it door-o. nuuyunmp, will enable them to keep within llley be mentioned more than the swd dea1_oi criticism withurggord 3'5“. “'29,?” "ffllb" Wlw would “We have heard from the senior might just 8S well serve Prince Lmfl " cpllytoo: me Mummy, other criminals and bootleggers? to the en. -- of r-r '1 u l "Q l"! 1W1 l Pm- member about the 70,000‘ gallons County, and greater economy would nlh,,hhzlhn Edgar-endless m, “Page, on mm, the“, w“ He, also complained that the re- in Rustico. 1 remember two men f," l Pulw- (Applause-l that were landed on tho Island. msult. mun. ,,-L;;,*;g__-*= , gmugum d011,," mom gpent l”; Port included work dons by the who wem appointed there and I will?" h" be" mllde l0 the How does he know? He does not Mr. Danni; thought the salaries Pllilfllflfiillleuld" BELIEF Iliffncuonltllh‘ "an. City Police. Why should that be have asked my hon. friend from Expense o! 1115-1139-1111"! the Mllllllt" know anything more about them of the registrars should be equal- b llrlinofhoolgqgfl ‘so. go Npeafteidla? criticism rnizdo tltrethrellstrlollitil he could give a. list :4 Pollcfi; As a malfiter bull last. w: than we do. He ‘discovered that lzed. "why." he asked. “S“°“"‘ “m axial-slew AND oar-o heel n“ e Drill as and Bu ct o convc ons, and to date he N S" 3 3 ¢°ll$ "l! ° l-lllllllll some 70,000 als. left St. Pierre and llmme '-' nallzed ust ' SAVINGS “Tum!” debates. chafslllg lax enforcement has never been able to do so. One °l m°ll°l7 bl’ $1175 urrsnsement- 1 he tells the hoopla of this Province gecausemhyevlitlvyetnwgestptsf Charlolte- 32211-223; ' Subsequently (the item having lll .- hibition and customs cases. gentleman was from New Glas- {$39 5:995)’ P01511285 Olll that l" that it all landed here." (Applause) town." 12:33,“, "My 1‘:fuf"°'“‘ bum ‘lbwed w “and W“. in m, This time. he said, he did not ln- sow and I have no record of any mom "m?" We W“ tmme {One thing my hon. friend seems Mr. J_A. MacDonaldexplaixied that "flu," "gums", magnum” Km m, an“ “Nun, lend to blame the force but he conviction he secured. t hm.‘ us ssllsrlggoolu oletienl eX- to itael very badly about-the foot the registrar in Charlottetown has yarflfeose vslnsrhh list/ruckus ed that “pa,” 1m y“, totalled would blame the government for Mn “Page. o1 do,“ understand gen n re of f . .Recenuy S?‘ that there is not more liquor be- to prepare the deeds and plans in gwegwgghfl: "a, m, n w,“ m, mmknm m, being negligent in their duty. l-Ie Wm, you m tam“; about. la sures will resold l» e to ll ing seized for the simple reason connection with the grants of land. h... ,, mtglgd u... such an amount would be required m!" "uh"! to llqlllll‘ ell-ism Hon. lvir. MacPhee: “My hon. “Vi”? *'° m]: YfmPm“ “d f“ 5”‘ that We have seodeniorcemeut and 11ml. lie would say. mount-a for “algal-sud “god-uni ,0, ordmm, "W, m, m“ om having been landed last year off mend “W, Rum“, m, Nfemd ptlfvlglzeiwg ll duet?" vulflvtd by rt is not being kept." (Applause). the difference between the salaries. "$3,; “- gugg}; addition." he said. “we have ci.- ll" owl- Abelll B0 per cent of "is to the Police report and taken ex: e ‘é t, ' “Li,” fl” “m?” ‘f5 I m“ ‘hi’ ‘m- Wlllbm“ l‘ 3° h" 111° l° me“ s“ ‘he W?" ‘ 326:“ worth o! w“ certain saw convictions obtained by the RD. Bepuon to the fact t5“ cenam lgmflggflrslligglllmogmglgfgtnmqat talking politics rather than pro- coming to Charlottetown to inspec‘ m“ m” m“ m“ m m“ d“ l° git: we“ ‘mimsummg “quot “m” "m" l" “mm” ‘i m‘ glhinn ii enlolrd 'b ‘the rrrgvinoes hibmo“ enhrwment‘ what m m “u” the fact that we irlstallud 5 51mm- t part of he work seemed to mm interest m are yum,“ the“ L m8 me c“? M Ytw Province; department wants is reliable infor- m. Dennis said there was noth- g r "t “l. Tl". ‘°°°“l“‘t..‘°' l l“? “i...” t“ an: u» v this? o: his". fi°trii‘°liu’.‘;..l°“eéi.éi’ii zlilz.t"ir.railu r...:":..°il; “M” s“ “g a‘ m‘ “ m much liquor landed and that they Ponce ‘fommef’ “i; I $21’, mm; fleets itself later on the Provinces. Th“ y sum“, u, a doubtful p“, ‘m,’ mm or mm, Wm‘ m‘, mere so; Your Doctor for Foot Ezdulfiiflnl"

bill, but this year it will be in oper- ation full time and the saving will be greater. ‘ v “Altogether we uvsd $18,000 h our public works programme due in the installatlonpf blowers‘ and self- icedlng machines in aonneciirl with our coal burillfll operation We hope to make an additional saving

there tlih year. nndto ruiuoe vol‘!

materially the ordinary repair cosh.” (APDllll-BO.) "In addition, we have made a Iubstautial saving in the plirclll-se -of meat, which amounts this year to $608. We purchased meat at 0 1-4 cents when the market was low last fall, and put it in the cold storagei plant at Fhlconwood. 1t is taloen in daily to the Jail. 'i'his system was inaugurated by this government. and it is a big improvement on the economic gide. over the system ple-

. viously followed of purchasing inset

in the market daily, at. the daily prices." (Applause)

his. lolPage: "There was $14 for shoes for prisoners last year. I would like lo know what that ll for."

Hon. Mr. sharp: “Don't you think lhey require shoes?"

Mr. LePage: "No."

Hon. Mr. MacPhee: "when s pri- soner serius a fairly long sentence, and if he lg a good prisoner. mil

. works assiduously at the tasks as-

signed to him by the iailor. when the time of his release arrives some- times his clothing and shoes are entirely worn out. it would he most. inhuman to turn such a. man out in that condition." Mr. IoPage: "They should leave their slices at homo after that." Hon. Mr. MaoPheo: “We didn't Wlltlt to turn them out in their bare fee ." Mr. InPsge: “$300 for hardware. ~ That seems to be aria amount" - flan, Mr. sharp: “While I have not the specific items with me. I know that the amount is correct and the vouchers are available in the oillce for the member to see them." The item carried.

Ian. AND oolrmr noon. rltmca oomnv. $4.900.

0V0!

Mr. Allen: "Thst has been accumulating."

Implant en into a new nonunion: h the Dominion cov- ermnsnl with rem-d to the Itemi-

‘l! “‘ l2“

{Imam-rm has yet humming.- Utlflagoifilpslssiuustlietycu

intend to enterinto s. new agree- ment with thc RCMP." Hon. Mr. MlcPbee: "You."

they be "singled out" in the report? Premier MacMillan: "Every case

gmph." M?

have not been able to seize any worth-while quantity of liquor proves that the Government has been lax in enforcing the law." The former Provincial Police, he main- tained. did much better work. In support of this argument hecited from a reporttabled in the Dom- inton Senate, giving the customs and sell-mu over s. period of years. Hon. Mr. MacPhee: "I might re- mind iny hon. friend that that II- laies to the preventive service-not tho Provincial Police."

Mr. LePage: “Call it preventive service or whatever you like to call it. but those. are the facts. I think the Government shoilld see that the conditions that occurred last year will not occur again. They had two men at Rustico last year. 1'01‘ #8111916. and what did. they do? The hon. member from Brad- a ans said that we had fellows ou Hill‘! too, and one of them was 40in! 110311118 but lesmirig the lad- ies to swim. That sounded very bright."

Hon- Mr. MocKenzle: “ ‘Teaching,’

,, .

I said.

Mr. LoPage: "Well. teaching then, (Laughter) This is no]; g, matter to joke about." One con. servative member, he continued, had advocated Governmnet Control and said the Liberals. if returned. would put Government Control in too. l-le. Mr. ‘ioePage. could assuro the committee that the Opposition had no notion of diverging from the Prohibition Act.

Premier MacMillan: “That is great."

Mr. IoPsge claimed that the two Police officers at Rustico had not done much. He kmw of cases where they should have collected more lnomy from drunks. In one case he knew of, thgy had token a drunken man home instead oi lock- ing himlipThst was a“nice act" but 1t wasn't thier plsoes to take a drunken man home.

A SERIOUS CRIME

_ Hon. Mr. McKenzie said he ms surprised at the attitude of the member from ltustico. Ha had cen- sulod the report of the Police for blinding out one particular case, which concerned the stealing of sheep in the ltustioo district. This was s crime from which the Pro- vince had until recently been free. The Police had secured convictions

es and sentences in thb case. and the

Rustioo member says it is not a vary serious offence! Lest fall, lVEr. Mackenzie recalled, two girls who were their livelihood in Charlottetown ind been robbed on

" their way to their boarding house,

and the suspects wore rounded up, convicted and sentenced to ten

era, s verdict which was received with public approval ill view of the nature of the offence. A great deal of the credit should go to the Po!- iee. under the Provincial Ponds, he recalled. in the district adjoining hisowrhtherehndbeensossoof fox stealing. m. Macltensleh fulcr- pntation of the lsw always liari been" that s criminal case cannot

be settled. -

‘Mr. T. A. Campbell: "I ill-upon to knew a great deal spoilt the case iuqueltlorhlrisstospoint of order. The remarks which the hon. member is beginning to make re- mot on the decision which was elven by and I submit that no such mu ON '

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the conlmunity

. s court in this Province- al-ks the Mounted Police.

lllfllble. n. It. Ilsolerilitzywho I'll.

Mr. Campbell: “The Magistrate who sat on the case was my late father." " '

ENFORCEMENT A'I' BUSTICO

continued to run at large. 1's that

’ friend: m-

- foree-l-les- afigreetv-ad

form with which the Provincial Police force had nothing to do.

“Let us examine the report sub- mitted to the Senate and we find that the conclusion is not the one which wqs svggssferi- lay-my hon. example in the matter of excise seizures during the years 1800 and i081, the last two years the preventive service was func- tioning, there were s4 excise seiz- useainlmmdlfltlssiainst that, there were 90 seizures. I am notrreflecting-on the calibre of the men of the Provincial force; in foot s. numlnr were taken over by the Mounted Police. Some one suggest- ed that we were attacking the Pm- vinclal Police, but that is not _cor- met. There has been no such sug- gestion from this side of the House. but the fact is that the Mounted _ vantage over the Provincial police ~in "their "fac- ilities for training, and their ax- perienoe. All those advantages which the Mounted Polico force has been able to acquire in the matter of discipline and routine, are "avail-

ISLANDEH-S IN RC. . .

Provinces, and I suggest to this‘ oom- mittee that if natives of this Pro-

beosuse they were Islanders, there

tlu member should lay any blame‘ on the Inspector, whose duty it was to make it. My duty as At- torney "Generaf was to table the report. I do not think that any un- due prominence is given to the case he mentions. This, of. course, is a species oi crime which has very fortunately not been prevalent in this Province, and it was desirable, I think, that publicity should be given to the fact that these men were, with very little delay, appra- hended and punished. I think it is not good from the point pf view of generally that any person. and particularly s member of this Asernbly. should make light of such an oflenm." (Applause)

Mr. LePage: “I am not making light, I am drawim your attention that no other case was featured." I-lon. Mr. MacPhee: “I think my hon. friend is mistaken. If he re- ferg to the Police report he will find mfeience to the other cases. It is certainly not a good thing that the seriousness of such s. case should be nlinilnlned by the mem- ber in his remarks." (Applause) ‘fI-‘eople throughout that commun- ity and the County generally were vciy pleased that convictions wen secured in this case,-not because these poor you!!! men had gone astray who had been convicted, but because with so little delay a quietus was given to this particular form oi crime from which we have ill the past been flee. As to the report oi the City Police, l might remind my hon. friend that. so hr u the enforcement of the Prohibition Act isconoemeihths‘ _ ‘ ofths Royal Canadian Police ls regarded us the chief Inspector for the Pro- vince, liavlng jurisdiction over all the Province.” (Applause)

ANSWERS MB. LQPAGWS ARGUMENT

"My hon. friend referred in the

Budget dl-vbilto to m answer to a question tabled in the Senate. and

he referred to it again this after-

noon. I have looked over the report and I cannot tlnd anything in it which supports the proposition of

the member from Rustlzo. Wt: find listed there the names and the sai- aries pf the preventive service who

are employed in this Province un-

(‘or the Dominion Government-not

the Provincial Police, as my hon. friend said, before the R.C.M.P.

took over their duties. There has been a good deal of loose talk with

regard to the scope oi the dutlrs oi the Provincial Police and the Mounted PolioeoMy hon. friend re- ferred to the work which nine men did in comparison with the Mount- ed Police numbering thirty or forty. The member knows perfectly well that these men were employed solely under the Customs and Ik- cise Act, and that they had no duties as Provincial Police. Be knows that the Mounted Police sin charged with all the duties of pol- icemen. aild that these dutfns in- clude not only the duties of the Provincial Police but of the‘ prev- entive service and of the enforce- ment of tho Migratory Birds Act as mil. They are doing the duties that those three forces did. and also a further duty in connection with the guard at the Receiver Generals oi- fiee. Thou four duties which were fonneriyearrled out by four difibr- slit forces are new carried out. by It is only lair that in considering the number of

of course. "The member from Rustico has

senior inembe

position. says’ he is willing to exhibit the

agalnhsferrcd to conditions in that community. I cannot subscribe to the impression which the hon. gentleman would leave in the minds of the people that Rustico is (L very lawless place. I do not think Wdc- serves the criticism which has bean made. I always regarded ltustioo as g veg-y splendid community in that regard,‘ and I can bell the member from Itustlco that I have in my files letters from prominent citizens. including olergyrnen, commendln" the Police for the splendid work which they hove done there." (Appk-lse.) Ifvmy hon. friend wish- cs at any time to look at these let- tors, I would be delighted to show them to him.”

Mr. IoPage: “There are a steal many other people that have letters- I have had o great many letifll and have passed some tllme letters along and have notified the Police with regard to them. if my hon. friend tells us that Rllsllloo l5 a lawless pl808-—" Ben. Mr. MacPbee: "I am not saying that; you were telling us that." (APDlIllSQJ Mr. loPage: “The fact that yolll‘ mm get only six convictions does not bear out that statement. There has been landed i.n.this_Pr0vlnoe. mostly along the north side. at least 50.000 to 70,000 gallons of liquor and all that has been seized. ac- cording to the report. was uboul m gallons.“ _

Continuing, Mr. LePage said lbs people were not satisfied with the W5“ ~ The ‘m- ,from New Iondon had tried to snap at him when e, Mo". LePage. lllld tried to talk about prohibition. In the member's own district they vmre lon"ing it by cITZOBS- Th" member had referred to girls win were robbed in Charlottetown, but it was not the R.C.M.P. but the Olty Police, Ml‘. IoPage said. who were instrumental in arresting those culprits.

ME. BETIIUNE REPLIES

sented the persistent Nfleolloll-l made upon the Itustioo district by the last speaker. Durins the Dost four years. at every session oi this House. the Liberal member had questions on the order fill-Pull‘. null‘ m; how many gallon; of liquor had been landed at North Rustioo. Mr. lePlgez "I navel‘ put a ques- tion on the order palm‘ with roi- erence to that."