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LLOYD HUGHES Clive Brook Louise Faaandn 3 Flockoliffe Fellowes l Hedda Hopper Lilyln Taahman Gale Henry

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and Expenditures and the people were given to understand that the Government had carried on the‘ business of the country and had re duced the puhlic indebtedness. l drew attention last night to the fact thai they were ignoring entirely the ‘amount laid out on the railways; and that therefore they were not showing fairly to the public the fact that we are weighed down to- day much heavier with patlonal ‘debt than-we were four years ago.

".\lr. Sinclair has referred to something tonight] which he never riientiuned at any meeting that l can recall. He never told the peo- ple until tonight that they had ex- pended $290,000,000 in capital ac- count on the railways.

llON. MR. SINCLAIR: I didn't say it tonight either. I said the management increased the debt to that amount by borrowing off the railways; not of Canada.

.\lR_ McKINNON: lan'g that a nice way to mislead the ,. ,.' ' The management increased the debt by borrowing 8230000000. By ‘borrowing from whom, I would like to knowf '

IlON. MR. SINCLAIR. Partly from the Government.

MR. .\icK.lNNON: Partly from lllc Government and partly from the people. And who are security for the amount borrowed from the Government and from the people If it is not the people of Canada? (Applause)

The money ls borrowed, 8290.000,- oflu, and laid out in expenditure on the railways of Canada and it is put up as not a debt, not charge- able to anybody! ls that what we are to believe. Yet the people oi Canada are liable for $290,000,000 that they were not liable for when these people took the reins of pdw- er three years ago.

IION, MR. SINCLAIR: No!

MR. McKINNON: Who is liable for it, who has gone security, if not the people of Canada? (Applause) if they go and borrow $290,000,000 lrom the bankers and loan it to the railways 0n the security of the gov- ernmeul of Canada. who is respon- slblc? lsn’t it the people of Canada?

.- ' noses-r VIGNOLA u ~

i

The Maritime Chris- tian Fundamental- V ist Conference

TO MEET IN SESSION AT TRYON. P. E. l.

last August lhc above Associa-

Scotla at a Cotifert-nt: w Ministers and Lziytncn Th» call tor the Conference hail lice-n sent out _ ,3 ' by the joint aczicn of tll Nova Y Sootia Soul \\'in- A-sociaiion. and the Prince Ellw. d l~l1ill(l. Un- ited Prayc-r Circles. The speaker along Fumloiiii-tini:

ion." Dr. Shields ls r

his paper “The Gospl \Vli:lliESS-" He int-ought‘ the ConfLrt-ncc

above Association. in order to

scheduled to be held at Tryon. P. E l

The dates set for this Conference. are Nov. 3, 4. 5th, and a splendid programme has been arranged. ‘Ministers of the various denomina- tions. including. Baptists. hll-=t.hmi~ ist_ United (lhurcuh Angl-ican. etc, have acted on their rights as in- diviidunls apart front their (‘omnr unions. and lintlittaleti that. they Ilntonti in in: pro-soul. .\ largt- and influential hotly of l¢'\)'lll"‘ll from I’. E. I.. arc nxpvcirni. if lilo wvztthcr permits. and zilsn a 4l“'l";!_iill0ll are coming from Nova Si-(illn,

The obit-ct of tin ('lllli‘"l'l*l‘il'.fl' is b0 hand tcgt-thvr in ilcfinitc effort. along sane lint-g of ('llll(ll|('i, those ministers and luynu-n, who are alive tn nhcsnmlc spiritual zipztthy. that liiorlcrnisin iluivl-s in Church Life, and who also arc. ili‘ii“l'fllill'i’fi-

w ms far its in flu-m lir-_-, in siztnd lhy “The ifalth nnct- int‘ nil tlulivt-rctl t0 the Sziinlt-l." ‘

til tho tsnming ilI(‘l‘illlK_ are Presid- rnt, llrv,..l. ll. liaggull. Stu-rotary. ‘Rev. Dr. ‘J. J. Shiv-y.

New-Fcpartureavin l A Golf Qualifying

WI‘. NNlNES On tho Sea. En!-

fand. October 2i.—--A rndicnl depar-

- ture in ‘the method of qualifying . for the British npc-n golf cliznnplon- ‘ ship will. ihr llLflirlilliltil ncxt year. when sectional qualifying unnpotl- tions 'wIll ho hold. two in England and one lnflcolland. This was an- nounced following a mretinrr of tho dhlmplcrmlilp commit-tee . lv-ro- at which the- plan W35 sitggeslr-d lily reproach-moves 0i’ ihr prnfeiiaiml- -e.1s' association. l-ie-rotofom qualif- ication miay has hot-n hcld just be- fore tho championship proper on two rolmtifoivr- of thorn visually that nn which liv- championship is context-rind. The R0 i-nirnnis with tho lowest modal l-zl-nni-t [liii-lqflfl inin tho championship ronipctillon. Nn information is lIVZIiilITiIiP. as in how 3th rfoilejgn golf invaders will qual- if linden the new plan. but details

' wlill be announced later.

people of this island ‘to pay their

Special Lines. wag tn‘. Rev. Dr. T. T Sh t-ltls of Toronto Canada who ll.l$ with oth-

pospular prvachcr in 'i‘or>ilto at the _ present tinw. far out-rating any $v§1~9°0-“3’0°- other in the filly as is tcstifleil by 19-33. $3o2-000.000i the tremendous crowds that guthen-Ilili- to hear his m ssauty and the still in Afton llall, that included in that larger multitude that wr-ckly read $fill3.l)i!iJ.0U0 and $361,000,000 for the

a Soldiers vital message. on thrcc successive $401K“) and $35,000 dove. and the result ‘We Slwli" bY Willie in 192i it was only $9.000. the enthusiastic organization of time‘ H,“ "em goes down every yea);

glue everybody time to slillely study the issues at stake. three months rwas allowed to complete the or- b‘ ganizarion, the name to take place p“ ' at the next Conference. which was."l°"'

This lnlc-rlnl Offlrors. oil-civil un-l

Isn't that just the same. so far as {Janada is concerned as if the peo- ple of Canada had taken $290,000.- 000 out of the treasury and loaned t to the railways? What la the df-ference? It has to be repaid some day and who is going to ro- pay it. (Applause) is it not the people of Canada? Have not the

share. I defy Mr, Sinclair to show

tutors oLi-lllhoditlhl. the reason and not any supposed benefit to Canadian farmers. ' "We have in Condensed Milk Factory. As s com- pensation that the manufactuera got in France, there was an in- crease in the duty on condensed milk sent into France with the re- sult that while $560,000 worth was sent there in 1922. only 67,000 went last. year. The markets of France in so far is a great many of our agricultural products are concerned was taken from ire-except in some cases where there was nothing go- ing in- I "At another meeting when l re- ferred to condensed milk 1 wad met with the statement that there was no increase in the dl-IIY- M! statement was denied I have here a schedule showing the increase. It shows there was 50 par oeng increase In the duty. Hon. Mr. SINCLAIR: Not under the Treaty. Mr. MoKfNNON: Under the treaty. There was an -rrangament made with France making fixed charges that ooilld not be reduced, and one of the Items increased was endenaed milk; increased from five francs to seven and a half francs. Now, ‘l am going to refer to what my hon. friend has probab- ly in mind. and yhat he referred to at some other meeting. He made this statement that there was a preference 0t 50 per cent. given to France. He did net tell us at tho other meeting that this was a preference of 60 per cent on the difference hot the minimum and general tariff. l want you just to notice this: There ls something “cute" at the hack of it; something shrewd. eral tariff happen to he the same

ttrenorcnaaqsggioquim”Northshormasvenasstboroab 1' - 1 I El?” “mo”, q,‘ "m. pug!“ system of w and harbordzodg- ' privileges anew by manufls- his “washout s Profiles-Jot» ~ . * .

cent. of nothing is-nothlngl

"I will give an instance of one article. On oats shipped into France there is no difference be- tween the general and minimum

tariff. A preference of 50 per cent the candidates, was ‘warmly

on oats would be absolutely noth- ing. ‘When you come to other pro-

small percentage of a reduction;

case of condensed milk the 50 per cent. increase is put on the whole face of it raising the duty from flve francs to seven and a half francs. _ “Take some of the goods on which there is an increase: on your poultry from 20 francs to 25 francs. an increase of 20 per cent; on your

pork, an incroase- of 12% per cent.

tlon of from 30 francs; but how much fresh butter will go to France? And when you come to salted butter there was an increase! derful French Treaty works. (Ap-

the contrary. (Applause) “ihat is what I referred to when

w» .ntt'y' were reduced. hunk at Afton Hall and l will

plause.) "There was an increase on pota-

uon w“ organiz_d in Tmrovyot-a wc were given to understand that toes of nearly 100 per csnL, from nf (‘liristian h- ordinary expenditures of thepiu francs to 79 francs. I producedlmore

One franc and it would have been

Iltloubled. On clover seed there was

tnr f.0m the same book tonlgntpm increase of 20 per cent. and on

. l5 the Canada Year Book for 192-1 h.- szime from which Mr. Sinclair ..tcd. it is published by F. A. t-lciantl. King's Printer at Ottawa i.I'F'I‘ the authority of Thus, A-

er lnfluent al Bap ~t Ministers >_ H1 h f. _, _ (I , .2 F,‘ . _1 tits cre are t e igu.es. ggltém"llihlfel€'l‘liélliilediilllt ii-[llltllnllfifli- l “"6 them in mum‘ numbers)

1v m‘, {"051 {otal ordinary expenditure of the

$303,000,000; 1921. 1922, $347,000,000; 1924. $324,000.- I drew attention to the fact

nuntry 1920.

yours 1920 and 1921 were items of Civil fie-establishment, respectively.

If there is anything wrong with these figures, then there is some-

thing wrong with the book that was

shed under the direction of

Mr. Lowell ‘ "The public debt of Canada for i921 according to page 755 was $2.- 3-l0.U00,U00. In 1924 $2.417,000,000. an increase of $77,000,000 There are other expenditures but I have tak- _en only the total ordinary expendi- tures. That is what it is classed as, lf you go to the other extra- ordinary expenditures such as rail- ways or anything elso.—i say, ii you take one why not take them all‘! Why not take noel office 8X- pt-ntlilure in the same way."

, Air. McKlnnon cited from a mpccrh on the Budget ihy ‘Mr. Euler,

a supporter of' the King Govern-

mcnl. that tho not debt without the capital expenditure on railways

‘was $52,000,000. lie also quoted an-

iother government supporter Mr.

‘Alarler who said during the Budge; ill-halo “We roally cannot go on spending money like water on the railways."

' Mr. McKlnnon went on to ex~

plain that when the railways were

lukvn over it was necessary to ex- pend money on rolling stock etc..

'10 tho t-xlcnt of $40,000,000; but by

102i they had reduced the expendi- turc down to $l1,000.000 and the

railways were getting nearly on a

.pnying hasla. in 1922, according to

Major Graham Bell, Vice President

n1’ the C, N. It. the system was in splendid condition.

l Aftcr some further remarks on |iln railway question Mr. MeKlnnon mntln reference to another state men-l. of Mr. Sinclair's regarding butter importation. lie had said at

IAHOII Hall that there was no but lr-r imported from iinitod States

"Phat wan the statement Mr. ‘McKin- lnnn had contradicted by showing that for the years 1921 to 1924, 5,- ‘000000 pounds had hoen imported

‘from the Ststes- 1n fact he was ‘really under the mark as the actual

iquantity was 5,255,280 pounds.

i The Famous Freneh Treaty.

i Speaking of tho King Govern- ‘mnnt treaty with France Mr, Me [Klnnon cited Hon. Mr. Lalfolnte, a Cabinet Minister who elated ‘to flit House that the treaty was aegotlat e at the instants of the manufbo-

‘.

()‘.\'l—. .\lin.ster of Trade and Com-l

other i'arm products the duty was increased.

“On the other hand there was a reduction of the tariff on such lgootls coming from France as:—— Brandy, champagne, wines, silks, satins, velveteens, lace, silk blous- es, silk clothing, gloves, toilet pre- partitions, soaps, perfumes, statues. lchlna, jewelry, precious stones. ‘ribbons, embroidery, artificial fea- ‘there and flowers. purses and poc- kethooks." (Laughten)

l Dealing ln- the same way with the Australian Treaty, Mr. McKin- non showed that in return for low- aring our tariff bars we received from them the privilege of send- ing in such articles as newsprint.

‘Mr. McKinnon denied having said that the King Government had built ~2.000 miles additional

railway, to which Mr. Sinclair had referred. His statement was that the Government bad committed it- self, with what they had built. what they had arranged to build and what they were planning to build, to the amount of 2000 miles. "When you come to figure out all the proposed lines and all tho lines they have surveyed for the purpose of building railways I think you will flnd l ant about correct."

Mr. McKinnon concluded with some further remarks on the tariff.

Mr. H. H. Jenkins.

lMr. R. H. Jenkins added very little now matter to his previous campaign speeches, While‘ he did not deny the reported statement of Major Graham lBell in the Patriot of October, 1922, as to the promis- ing condition of the railway. he quoted by way of offset another newspaper despatch pu-hllshed two days lsoer expressing the hops that a more satisfactory condition in re- lation to railway matters would be brought about.

He defended the exportation of such raw material as pulp wood on the ground that we have forests enough to last us for all time pro- vided they are properly conserved.

Ho dealt with the public debt. the tourist traffic, preferential tariff and the probability of the Liberal candidates receiving the support of those who had voted Progressive at the last eloctlbh. He concluded by reiterating lrisfiaun- shine doctrine" that if he couldn't conscientiously boost Cannda he would go some place else and live- lnstoad of remaining to grouch.

Mr. J. A. Mosservey.

lMr. J. A. Messervoy. the Conser- vative candidate, received an en- thusiastic hearing. il-fis address was also along much the same lines is previously reported. l-ls pointed out that ll taking our raw materi- tis away Canada is being drained of her life blood, because upon these resources depends the m- ture of our country. He empha- sized the need of developing Brit- ish and home markets; of a selec- tive system for securing immi- grants, and the advantages of an deems-railway line between Char- lottetown and Borden. and from lloaat Itswsrt orJoyalty to the . .. l-i. . 1‘.- .1 "I 3,. r vzgsnu‘:

Thlawaa

CT-u lottewfln I

if the minimum and gen. dnction made on agricultural int-

there ls no difference, and 50 per of these implements to tho people.

ducts you flnd it will make n very tiently but on the other hand, as in the at any length. The King Govern-

IIIII. too. he minted out. should foeelvo this latter advantage.

Hon. Mr. Sinclair's Reply.

‘Replying to Ir. McKlanoni question as to who was security for the railways in Canada, ‘Mr. Sinclair contended that it was the railways themselves with their as- eete and property. “Who lrgoing to repay the loans that are made by the railways increasing their debt? The persons that are going to pay those loanr-to pay the in- terest on thorn-are the railways themselves, out of their earnings as the earnings are increased and show that they will be able to do lt. The earnings of the railways are the money they earn in freight. passenge rates and express rates throughout Canada.”

‘With the policy that the Govern» lnont are putting before the people for control of our two national ilnes the railways, Mr. Sinclair "said, will be made to take care of their own indebtedness; to pay their own in-

AilEiiA Riiiii.

woits will open in the Arena Rani. Great; preparations are being made. and a most successful week is an- tlolpated.

The Rogers ‘Amusement 'Com- pany will arrive here on Wednesday night with earloadaof attract-lone. some of which have ‘been labely sec- ured in New York. The work of

so that all arrangements will be complete for the opening date. Among the attractive devices will

turouseiie. Baby Aeroplane Swlngd

terest. to pay the fixed charges and carry on without being a. fur; ther charge onthe tax-payers; but.

in a business-like way without uti-l clue interference such as political patronage. For that reason. theyi were placed under corporate mun-l agemertt. The Conservative Party; are not disputing t-hat; it is- onlyl the small little harping crlticismi of the candidates we have in this county. ' I Whatever opinion Messrs. Euler and Marler expressed in_the il-louse as to the ‘finances it was amply their own as private members and did not bind the Government. lMr. Sinclair insisted that the re-

plement duties tlidiower the price

Premier Stewart Answers Mr, Sinclair.

iPremior Stewart. who followed till‘ plauded. As the hour was late and many in the audience had been pa- standlng throughout the meeting. he did not wish to speak

ment, he said, is asking for a re- newed mandaté to carry out four policies: transportation. immigra- tion. flscal policy and Senate llc- i form. There are two questions that might be asked: What has been done along those lines in the

confidence and

either of those points. “We have heard about the

is perfectly correct.

this tlelbt and the railway will pay it.

era ‘purchased a threshing outfit, and you purchased it credit. You might say that the threshing outfit owed the debt, and the threshing‘ outfit would pay it. (Laughton) But is that sane reasoning? isn't it the owner that mull: take the-respon- sibility. Whether or not therall- ways will pay, the people of Can- ad must pay the debt the same as the owner of the threshing outfit. He may meet with losses every year. He may wear ou ‘ that threshing machinery and no clear a dollar, nevertheless he will have to pay every dollar.‘

‘l-low‘ far have the railways gone in paying off the debt themselves? They have v19: this far that they have incr" Pu the debt today un- der this piessnt Government ac- cording to their own statement nearly $300,000,000. How long are they going to ‘be paying off the debtatthat rate’! it lsllke the cat climbing out ofthe weii and alip- pihg back each time further than It crawled up. (Applause)

lPremler Stewart then referred to the Crows Nest Pass agreement which gave tothe Western grain growers a valuable concession on rates. We have been choked in these Maritime Provinces ,by the oxhorbitant freight rates on the Intel-colonial. ‘The opportunity which onh Maritime members (and Mr. Sinclair among tho rest) hurl.- was when that Crows Nest agree- ment was in Parliament. That same statute should have-‘Jlewered the rates for us on the lntsrsalenl- al. They had that opportum and not one of them so far as t re- cords show raised his voice ill Far- Ilament even to make the slggss- tlonl (Applause) _~, Premier Stewart did not wish to deal with the question of immigra- tion to any great extent at this late hour. He would meroly ask what the immigration policy of the King Government has Ibsen so far as this Province is concerned. It has cost the tait-paYora nearly 043M300 a year. The result to this Province has been simply a black eyo. (Ap- plause.)

‘Referring briefly lo the Fraser Mitchell matter. Premier Stewart said that he wished to take the opportunity of enwhatically en- dorsing lseiorc tho- public w-hat had been said by IHon. Mr. Myers, Hon. Dr. McMillan and other members _o,f_ the Provincial Government. It has been fully discused at meetings and in the press, and he would leave it at that. v _ _

lDealing next with tho tariff. he referred to fertilizer and asked if reduction in duties had made the price of this product any cheaper.‘ From an ofllcial of the yPouttoe Growers’ Association lie was in- formed that the ieducedJarifl hail effected no reduction. ‘Iut it has destroyed the business of Canadian manufacturers of fertiliser, 0d it has taken to the Un Gtatoa a lot of our geodpnone _

"We iiear about our ‘bloated mon- opolists.‘ of Ontario and Quebec." he continuedt "but the indus- trial combines ars in t ‘ whore rths Lilnr buy our goods. d. port fore Iitmdlldttl l own Industries? 1's be

10°." toll?

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and twelve other novelty concess- ions. With myiriads of electric lig- hts_ engaging music. and scores of novel features. the Fair molds pro-i

they mugt b9 allowed to ggrry on ‘fill-SB 0f n week's pleasune» 811d en- useful activity.

AIiSPIBES ilBEiiliiEllA. A. ii.

One week from today ‘the frigljdyment. lEach night a door prize Pair being conducted ~by the Aheg-{of $5 in gold will be awarded the

setting up will begin on Thursday,‘