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THE PAILY EXAMINER, CHARLOTTETOWN MARCH 21, 1898.

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SCHOOL BOY S QUESTIONS ANSWERED etc.” How different are the attitudes of

Sir,— When I sent the letter, which commented on Mr. Pope’s paper, to THE

EXaMINeR my intentions were, not to start a controveray, but ratherto give some | prominence to a chapter of British Histcry, |

which, though well knowa, ig cos veniently passed over by many would explain the origin and progress of Christianity in England. Had the question at ivaue been doctrine, | would have hesitated to approach its for debates the different churches

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on the doctrines of are most prolific sources of recrimination and hard feeling, and religion enrelvy de- strovs what it should cherish when lt causes even the infringement of the great comman Iment—love thy neighbor as thyself for the | The sulject being one, I felt that I mig

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weofG vd. historical discusa it,

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and I knew that the church had nothing |

to lose and everything to gain by the Open-~

ing of History’= pages.

PFhough not desirous of causing «@ dis- oussion jo drawing to Mr. Pope’s attention some detaila which must, of necessity,

change the tone ¢ f his paper, I was not enter the realm of defender of methe same

the least reluctant to provided the exrended to

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courtsey 1 wecorded to Mr. Pope,—that is |

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to put bis name to DIS productions. not intend to answer ths gentlemau who cigued himselfa School Boy” until he had ip sufficient courage to appear over his seme for 1 object to beings like him coming out who give their names, for School Boy, Veritas and

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against men

their likes, may descend below the level of the decent without serious loss to their reputations. Though Ihave urged this

reason for oot answering this one, { have heen so inceseantly impurtuszed that to avoid further »nnoyance | have consented to take to the pom more.

As many may read this who have nota school boy’s questions at hand,and therefore cannot intellig bly follow the answers, I must quote 215 questions.

Question 1. Will Mr. Clarkin deoy that Clement of Rome, writing about the year A.D, 5, asserts that St. Paul pres hed inthe utmost limits of the west ?

Auawer. A“ School Boy ” is evidently the victim of 4 free translation For general purposes his tranoclation ‘s used #0 are “to the far weet, ” ‘the bounds of the west ” and variations, Though allor any of may suitbiw, be must recognize that we should not depend on those free transla- tions in mattera connected with either our faith or the history of our sharch. I heave the original before me and the innocent cause of this excite- ment ie the phrase, eM TEPUA TNS dvsews éAfav,— “yoing towards the boucdary of the west.” If be wishes to ase Pope Clements’ words asa premises from whieh to argue le must adhere to the text.

Question 2--Will he deny that in Roman literature the “ utmost limits of the west ” meant Britain which was then the western boundary of the Roman Em-

pire?

Ave.—As! do not remenrbsr meeting this phrase or its equivalent in any posi- tion in which 1 could identify it with Bri- tain I can give oo anewer.

Perhaps the questioner, over his name, cau cite some inetances. If he Jooks at hie atlas and takes Rome as the centre of the Empire be may be inclined to consider Spain ae the “ utmost limite ot the west.” taymond, a good HKogiish churchman save: “It is the opinion of some socient writers that the doctr'ne of Chriet was firet preached in Britain by the apostle Paul’? He alludes to Pope Clement, Theodoret and others, in conclusion he says “by which it is conjectured the island of Britain is incluaced” (hat is naming the pleces in whieh St Paul preached). Raymond quotes all the evi- dence, and more, that a* School Boy’ and others have produced; yet he modestly conc!udes“ by woch it is coxyeorureD

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| Though there is po proof that St. Paul | wasin Britain there is no reason for saving he was net. He may have been in Britain. He may have made many converts,—though no tradition or record remains in proot; but if he had established the eburch there, there is little doubt but some eviderce of it wonld exist. If the church were established, there is not the least reason to beliewe that it would not look to St. Peter ang his successors for its guidance. Todefeud this assertion, I will quote from Theodorei as thie good bishop ot the Catholic Church is a special favourite with our friends. Having being thrown into prison by order of the Emperor, Theoderet sought redress from the Pope whom he styled Father of Chris- tians and the “judge in matters of faith.” [n justification of his action in referring his grievances t» the Holy See those are | his words. “Si Paulus, praeco veritatis ad magoum Petrum cucurrit, ut iis, quai Antiochiae contenderent, ab ipso afferret solutionem, quanto magis ad apostolicam sedem vestram ewrrinnus.” Translation: “If St Paul, the herald of the faith, appealed to St. Peter, for the solution of the difficulties which disturbed the church at Antioch, how much more does it behoove us to have recourse to the Apostolic See?” While his case was pending he besougbt the Cardinal Renatus io urge the Pope to decide the question. “Por,” writes he, “the See of Rome has the headsh:p and direction of all the churches throughout the world.”

Question 3. Will he assert 't a3 ag Historical fact that Elentherus, Bishop of Rome, was called Pope?

Answer. This question is not explicit This Pepe has been and is referred to as Pope and Saint. Fox, in his Book of Martyrs says, “This Eleutherus, at the request of Lucius, king of Britain, sent to him Damianus and Fugatms by whom the king was couverted to Christ's faith ete.’’ So Fox, “a Schoo! Boy” and some others, have referred to this holy mao without using any prefix. Perhaps this is not the information “a School Boy” wants. If he states his question clearly, and over his name, I may be able to supply what he de- sires. I cannot seetbe connection of. this question with the case discussed.

Quest’on 4. Will he deny that Gregory, | Bishopof Rome,who sent Augusiine to

britain in 597 A. D. denounced as the ! f5xeruuner of Antichrist any prelate calling himself universal Biehoo?

Answer, I am delighted to meet thie old acquaintance. True itis a little battered on account ot being stood up to be knocked down #0 often, yet notwithstanding its age and thie illusage it appears bale and hearty. Dr. Milner about one hundred years ago anawered it in these words: “However as the authority of our apostle, Pope Gregory the Great, is claimed by most Protestant divines on their side and is alluded to by Bishop Porteus, merely for having censur- ed the pride of Jon, Patriarch of Con- stantinople, in assuming to bimeelf the title of cecuminical_or universal bishop, 1t is proper to show that thie pope, like all others who went before him and came after him did claim and exercise the power ot supreme pastor throughout the cburch. Speaking of this very attempt of Join, he says: “Ihe care of the whole church was committed to Peter, and yet he is no’ called the universal apostle.” (Ep. Greg. I vy 20). With respect to the See of Con~ stautinople he says “who doubts but is subject to the apostolical see?” and again “when bishops commit a fault [ know not what bishop is not subject to it.” (See of Rome) (See L. ix 59). As no pope was ever more vigilant in discharging ‘he duties of his exalted station tuan St. Giregory, eo none of them perbaps exer | cised more numerous O¢ w'dely~extended lacts @f the supremacy than he did. It is sufficient to cite here his directions to St. Augustine of Canter- bury “We give you no jurisdiction over the bishops of Gaul Lecause from ancient times, my predecessors have couferred the pallium onthe Bishop of Arles whem we ought not to deprive of the authority he has received. But we commitall the bishops of Britain to vour care, that the ignorant among them may be instructed, the weak strengthened, aud the perverse corrected by your suthority” (His. Bed. I i. c. 27) (see Miluer page 284) To this qaotation from Dr, Milner may bs aided though perhaps unuecessarily the follows ing facts which cor-oborate. Pope Greg- | ory wrote to the bishops of Gaul: “Should any dispute arise about matters of faith, it is incumbent on you to apprise us of it, that, by our decision, we may definitively settle the point in question (Lib. v. Ep. 53 et-56). St. Gregory claims unceasingly to be the successor of “St, Peter Prince of the Apostles.” He states (Epist. Gregori. v., 20.) that Christ gave St. Peter *‘the charge of the whole church”. He regu- lated the succession of bishops in Spain (Registrum Gregorii)(Ewald)(Lad. vi 1912) Many other cases wherein he exercised the powers of his supremacy might be cited but enough evidence has been given to prove to anyone that when Pope Greg- ory repudiated the title “Universal Bishop” he had not cast aside his jurisdiction over the Church, but merely rejected @ title which be considered would arrogate to bimeelf alone the dignity of the Episcopacy making all other bishops appear but Bhad~ dows of his authority. He in no place showed bis supremacy more cleary or spoke more authoritatively, than when be reprimanded John of Constantinople for bis attemyt at using the offensive title. Question 5. Will he deny that when Aug~ ustine came to Britain the British Bishops refused to cooperate with bim calling hira a stranger from Rome, and this refusal shewe that at that time the Britich church was independent of Rome?

Ans. In my first lteter I gave an acconnt of tbe origin of the church in Britain. I showed that British Bishops attended two councils of the church, at doth of which the supremacygofthe pope was acknowledged, and some other facts for which please see Examines of February 26th

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did at first refuse to acknowledge the authority of St. Augustine and would not cooperaie with him, but thatthis fact shows that they were indepeudenc of Rome at that time or at any time | deny. By the word independent I mean severed from and beyond the authority of. At the parti - cular time that they resisted St. Auguatine authority they were independent in the fame sensc thata rebelliouseubject is independent of his sovereign. See Ling- and on this point. He save that the Br'- tish prelates agreed to meet Si. Augustin ’s but tetore doing so they consulted a hermit as to how they should att. This hermit advised them to watch Augnatine and if he rose to meet them they should listen to his demand-; if he did not they should condemn him of pride nnd reject his aathority. St. Angustine remained seated on their approach both his reasons and his authority were consequeetly des pised. Lingard also states. “In points of doctrine there had been no difference be-~ tweee thern’.’

This refusal of authority, instigated by one man is the massive basis on which rests the claim tnat the British church was independent of Rome. Against this bal - wark alj arguement is futile, Of what avail is the fact that the church was estab- lished by bishops sent from Rome. How little important is it that the Bishop of Auxerre was sent by the pope to regulate it. How trifling that the British Bis- hops at the Council of Sardica ac- knowledged that the priests of the Lord from each particalar province should reverence to the seat of Peter the Apostle: St. Augustine did not stand up to meet the British prelates; they thought he was proud and they would not bow to his authority, therefore the British Church was independent of Rome then and always.

{ might cite more authorities to prove that this conclusion of School Boy’s is false but I do not think them needed.

Question 6. Will be deny that when Wiitrid, Bishop of York, applied to the Bishop of Rome in 680 A. D., the Church of Britain put him in prison because he applied toa power to which the British Church owed no allegiance ?

Answer Another old acquaintance. -I mutt deny this one. I will briefly state the fucts of this case. Theodore who was appointed Archbishop of Canterbury by

Pore Vitalian, wishing to break up the large dioceees under him, divided the diocese of Noithumbria, ot which Wilfred was Bishop, into turee, for each division of which he consecrated a bishop, thus depriving Wilfred of his ‘bishopric, Against this action Wilfred appetled to Rome. Pope Agatho ordered that he be. restored bis diocese and with a copy of the Pope’s decision Wilfred returned home, King Egfrid (not the British church) no iue pea that the docu- ment had been co:rup.ly obtained, refused to carry out the Pope’s order and Wilfred waa confined. Neither the King nor the Archbishep contested Wilfred’s right to appeal. On the contrary, they sent their own representatives to Rome thereby ack- nowledging the jurisdiction of the court. The Archbishop Theodore before his death seut for Wilfrea and the Bishop of London and asked the forgiveness of the man he had injured, and in his |etter to King Ethelred assigns the authority of the Pontiff as the cause of bis reconciliation (Epis. Theod. amd Wilk. Eddins, c. 42, p. 74. Lingard, Auglo~Saxoa church, vol. 1 noteH) The foregoing is abridged from Canon Croft’s coatinuity of the E. Church.

Question 7.—Will Mr. ©. contradict the learned historian of the Roman Catholic faith who says of the Britains (evidently Britons) “the indeperdence of their church was the chief object of their solicitnde ”? To this the opinion of the learned Black- stone may be added, “The Britiva Charch by whomsoever p'anted was 8 stranger to the Bishop of Rome and all his pretended authority.”(Com. IV, 8.

Answer.—Who is the learned historian of the R C, faith ?

It is impossible to identify him by this description; for the church has had many learned historians. I have no doubt but this quotation has been picked up iutke works of some Catholic his» torian. Ia fact I have Bu indistinct recollection of meeting it, or something like it, some- where. But it is likely, itthe context were known it would, convey a meaning differing by far from the one Le suggests. He would convey the opinion that independence of the Roman Catholic church was the desire of the Britons, though the author may bave meant that those people wished to lave the chureh independent of the government. Good reasons for believing the latter to be the correct view exists when we consider the unjust imprisonment of Bishop W il- frid by king Egfrid: at the present day the independence of his church isthe chief object of every Catholic’s solicitude when he gazes towards Rorse and sees ths Vicar of the Lord beleaguered by the Infide].

The great weakness of s School Boy is that he gets alittle of the truth, and in reasoning from it instead of from the whole truth like manya wiser man he entangles himself in error.

A little of the truth, like a little learning is a dangerous thing.

And now comes the opinion of the “learned.” Blackstone, like thunder after the lightning’s flash to stun the terrified. | As no argument is used bere, it is useless

to bring argument in contradiction. I will simply quote opinion against '

opipien, I might give what Catholic authorities say of Blacketone when he touches, with that gentle touch of bis on ' Catholic subjects but I will give the opinion of a Protestant. This is what Cobt ett, a Pro. | testant, says of Blackstone“ Black stone, for ‘ instance, in his Commentaries on the laws of England, never lets slip an opportun‘ty to rail against ‘Monkieh ignorance and ‘superstition.’ Blackstene wasno fool. At the very time wheu hs was writing these Commentaries and reading them to the atudents of Oxford, he was aod he knew it, liviog upon the spoile of the Catholic Church, and the spoils of the

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Catholic gentry, and also of the poor!

He koew that well. He knew that if every one bad bad his due he would not hare been fattening where he was, He knew, besides that all who heard his lectures

were aware of the spoils that he waa wallowiog in. These considerations were quite sufficient to induce him to ab- nee the Catholic Church and to affect to look back with contempt to Catholic times.” (Cobbett letter 1 page 13) This is the character of the learned Blackstone Las written by @ Protestant; #0 please Mr. “School Boy” don’t quae him to us. I hope thacin thie letter] have given “A School Boy” the information be desires. If it were possible I would have endeavor- edio make my answers more complete ; but space and my resources are limited. In conclu-iou, [ may say, that in future I will pay abso utely no attention to “a School Boy’ or any other writer who does not give his name. Thanking you Mr.

Boy farewell J.T. Crary. Ch’town, March 16.

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