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: > rotected by some such means, in a short time we will have ,they can, and abolish ’these offices altogether. 1 do not see|on it. It was nothing less than that he had received that money Colonial Legislature. es timber left for any useful purposes whatever. lone the public lands should be oak into a domain for | Without warrant. With regard to the vouchers, they must be | Mr. YEO.—In Lot 11 the timber is nearly all cut off, their especial benefit, or that they may give the privilege to’ something like the thing before people took them ; but a man and there is searcely a chip of iteleft. whom they please, und Government be none the wiser. It! 0d ay eo oa be suspected, would desizg to have vouchers | Hon, COL. SECRETARY.—It has not been cut off since | is a species of favoriteism, and ought to be done away with. "ee. coe meas

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY.

Tuvaspar, April 9, 1857. Hon. COL. SECRETARY said, the Commissioner of Crown

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AFTERNOON SITTING. PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. ( Continued.)

the Government have had it. On the Worrell. Estate the They ought to be dismissed from office, and give the public system of charging stumpage has been practiced, and per- an opportunity to have full scope of all the timber that is to | maits were given to the Commissioner to let parties cut timber be obtained. If there is anything remaining (A member— for a consideration; but I think we should follow out the | There will not be much left) the people who purchase can get

Hon, Mr. PALMER.—As the Commissioner could have Hon. the Speaker's suggestions, and preserve the timber on jit. As to the Selkirk Estate, I think it Government land

no authority to measure his own expenses; he should have | drawn up his account, and present it to the Governor and |

the land for the purchasers. Mr. MACINTOSH.—It is wrong on the part of the Go-

already. I have heard that the bargain is closed with the proprictor. [ mention this as no fiction; but have it from

Council. This he should have done; but has not. It is e™™™ent to grantstumpage. That is one item which might | good authority. This estate will also, no doubt, be put upon asked why he has acted contrary to the provisions of the | *S well not be refegred to; for we shall never see a penny ‘the same footing as the other estates, now in the hands of the

Land Parchase Act, and without authority. And how does | the Hon. Col. Secretary answer? He meets not the qnes-| tion directly, but refers to the Commissioner of Crowa Lands under the old system of Government as a precedent.

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of it. Hon. Mr. LORD.—I mast say, I cannot go the length

| Government. There has been something said about bonds, ‘and so much being secured upon them to the Government.

some hon. members go in following up this debate. There is| The Commissioner has inserted in the Publie Accounts, to ,great blame attached to the Commissioner of Public Lands, | the credit of the Government, the sum of £14,000 upon

But it should be recollected that tho officer alluded to was|224 Some hon. members go so far as to say that he cannot | bonds. It is, however, said these bonds have been relinquish-

under the control of the Crown, and was by the Crown al-| lowed a certain per centage upon the moneys collected by | him ; but vouchers for the expenditure were submitted. Still, | when we claim a similar right now, what does the leader of | the Government give fur reply? His reply is similar to | every other argument when an unanswerable question is | propounded: ‘ O, we find them as bad under the old sys- | tem, scores of times!”’ But, sir, two blacks do not make | one white; neither will the answer given by the Hon. Col. | Secretary clear the Comiuissioner of Public Lands from the | charge. of overstepping the bounds prescribed to his actions | asa public officer. The time ought to arrive, under Respon- sible Government, when a proper responsibility would be fixed on every one of the public officers. When it arrives, |

we will have officers who will be responsible to the people ; | ~~ "a Se oe i stg losing affair. But if 2s. a ton were charged‘for timber cut

on the Public Lands it would be much better, as no one ould object to such a reasohable charge. It has been well said that the Worre}] Estate has been an unfortunate affair, ‘for the former proprietor was fleeced out of it by designing

but not before. The Hon. Col. Secretary alludes to the | Surv yor General, over whom we had no control, and wou-| ders if he ever presented his accounts to the Governor and |

Council, before disbursing his expenses. Does the fact of

his not doing so justify the present Commissioner of Public |

Lands in acting likewise? But the Government of that day denounced the system as unsound and corrupt. And if it was then considered corrupt, under that corrupt system, as

the hon. member, is sometimes pleased to characterize it, |

what should it be thought now, when the genius of Respon- sible Government is said to be purity itself. If this system is to be sustained, any officer, casting his responsibility to the winds, can continue its practice ; and what he pays him- self, he can keep in his pocket.

flon. Col. SECRETARY .—The hon. and learned mem-'

give an account of the mouey he has expended. True, they do not say in plain terms that he pocketed the money, but something tantamount. If he were inclined to be dishonest, I defy this House to prevent him from appropriating the public money to his own use; for if he had a bill to pay, and were so disposed, it would be an easy matter for him to put on ten per cent. more than he paid. But no man can accuse Mr. Swabey of acting in this manner; and therefore it would be well to be a little nice in examining the Public Accounts before venturiag such a surmise. With regard to letting out the public lands for stumpage, if my suggestions were carried out, such a system would be abolished altogether. It will not pay to employ wood-rangers. By the Accounts

‘it would seem that £36 was paid to wood-rangers, while only | | £29 was received for stumpage, which shows that it isa

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men. Asregards the Commissioner of Public Lands, 1 have nothing to say for him. He has kept his accounts loosely. ‘There is, however, one thing in the Publie Accounts with which [ am not satisfied, and that is the expenses incurred iby the Commissioner of Public Lands. What did he want _in the country every week? His services were not surely re- ‘quired so often. Could he not perfurm all the services re- quired of him without going into the country every week ? Lf such a system as this is carried out, the public property ‘will soon be swamped. There have been complaints made

| that the Public Accounts had not been handed in until a late

, « La c aw Ira te T] othils : . - . - ber who has spoken last, says there is no responsibility in | day of the Session. Let them be in future handed in at the

public officers, meaning of couse the Commissioner of Public Lauds. Now, I will tell that hon. and learned member that

proper time, and then there can be no cause for complaint. | , Then it is demanded that a Special Committee be appointed

the Government gave the Commissioner authority to dis- | t, investigate them. I hope it will not be refused. I also

a *oaesr ro > ue i 2 7 : } Y 1 > * . . '* . burse the Becessary ek penses incurred by him when absent! hope the vouchers will be laid before the House. This is from the City on the business of his office. The minority | not the place to discuss the correctness of these accounts,

are picking at a bone; but they may find no pickings to res |

until we know they are incorrect. But I cannot think,

ward them. The account of the disbursements are correct. | notwithstanding, that the Commissioner wishes to defraud Vouchers for every one of the items can be produced, and} the public, as bas been insinuated.

have been examined by the Special Committee. The hon. and learned member for Charlottetown says the proper way | for the Commissioner to do, is to pay the money he receives | into the Treasury, and if he need any given sum for dis-| bursement, he should present bis account to be examined by | the Governor and Council, &c. Ihave answered this ob-| jection before, and pointed out the difficulty, nay, even the | impossibility of doing so in all cases. Does the agent send home all the money he collects, and then ask for his salary ? I think not. The Commissioner pays into the Treasury | every month all the money he receives, except, perhaps, a |

and other vecessary expenses. ‘The hon. member is astray in saying that the former Commissioner of Crown Lands

was under the contro] of the Crown. He was as much under,

of Pablic Lands is. And by reference to the accounts fur- | nished to the Government and printed in the Journals, it! will be seen that Mr. Wright in selling Crown Lands, | charged bis own mileage and expenses as well as commission | and wages to chain-bearers, and ouly paid the balance into | the Treasury.

Mr. COOPER.—This is not such a trifle as some hon. | members would wish to make it. We are about to get | £100,090 sterling, to buy up lands in this Island, and if this system is to be pursued, it will certainly lead to a bad end. | I will state that I never saw tke public accounts sent to this | llouse without vouchers.

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amined the vouchers before subscribing to the correctness of | these accounts, they have not done their duty.

Hon, COL. SECRETARY.—Capt. Swabey showed them | his accounts. It was their place to examine into the cor-| rectness of the same. If they did not do so, then it was, not the fault of the Government, but their’s.

Hon. COL. TREASURER said that the Auditors ex- amined all accounts in the treasury, even to the smallest item, and he could not help thinking they had done so in the Land Commissioner's office. He corroborated the asser- tioa of tue Hon. Col, Secretary, that the Government had | authorized Capt. Swabey to pay all expenses incurred in the. —e of his duty, and allowed him for mileage and horse- |

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Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH.—If the Auditors have not | done their duty, the House of Assembly have no other course | to pursue, but to send for the vouchers and examine them. | The auditora areasham. They examine the total amounts | of the Commissiover’s account, and then pronounce them | correct, without knowing they are really so. Asto the Com- | missioner taking upon himself to disburse the expenses of his office, my opinion is that the Act does not authorize him | todo so. It allows him £300; but no more.

_Mr, YEO adverted to the amount paid to the Surveyor | General, saying that his salary and expenses took the cream |

off the land. ‘Then, he said, there were wood-rangers, and | find themselves, after following their ignis fatuus for a money receive

o there was no account of them.

_ Hon. the SPEAKER.—One great curse to this Island, is the letting out of large tracts of land for stumpage. A

* gentleman has told me that saw-mills are a curse to the |

country. They are the means of destroying the forests, and |

/Commissioner to travel about the country every week.

Hov. Mr. MONTGOMERY.—It has been a rule that for every item paid there should be an account rendered. In fact, for all Public Accounts, even to the smallest items, vouchers should be laid on the table. Under Responsible Government, such a course may not be deemed necessary ; but formerly it was considered indispensable.

Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—I am certain that if the hon. member would ask the Commissioner, he would gratify his desire to see ali the vouchers, which would correspond with the detailed accounts before the Committee. But Go-

mon : " ‘“ vernment did not ask for vouchers for every little matter, as | sum of £5, which he expends for chain-bearers, horsehire, the Auditors’ examined his Accounts.

They have more con- fidence iu him, than to suppose he would render a wrong

pounds, it is better than to dispense with them altogether, and lose twice as much ; for, if the timber lands were left free for every one to cut timber on, there would, in a few years, be very little timber left on the Public Lands. As to the allusion about'the travelling expenses of the Commissioner, when he goes to collect the money due to the Government, would you bring tae people to town, for the sake of such a trifling sum, causing them perhaps to loose two or threo days of the time which is absolutely required on their farms. If the Government, by the expenditure of a trifling sum, save ten times the amount for the people, I see no cause for com- laint, but rather for congratulation, ‘

Mr. T. H. HAVILAND.—I rise to say a few words in regard to the affairs of the Worrell Estate. The hon. mem- ber, Mc. Lord, ceusured the Commissioner for keeping his

accounts so loosely, which is as much as to say he is unfit |

for the office he holds. Well, that is at least an admission. But, sir, by what authority does the Government allow the Commissioner to expend the public money? If he is under the regulations of the Land Purchase Act, it says plainly enough that he shall be entitled to three hundred pounds a year, but no more. What authority then can he have for oxpending more than this sum (his salary)? It is said by the Hon. Col. Secretary that it is beneath the dignity of the Government to pay chain-bearers; and therefore the Com- missioner is justified in overstepping the bounds of his authority. Sut it was never intended to invest that officer with such authority, and if he be allowed to expend a few pounds now, by-and-by he may be upheld in expending thousands; and if the Government should purchase other estates, he will, having such unbounded control of the public

ed. The hon. member, Mr. MacIntosh, said they were. If such is the fact, what business has the Commissioner to charge them to the eredit of the Government. While I am on this subject, I would ask what has been done with the back rents due cn the Worrell Estate? I was told by a gentleman, some time ago, that there were £7,000 arrears on back rents due. If they are swept off the books, it should be known. If not, the amounts should be included in the Public Ac- counts. I hope we shall have some account of this item, as it may be important to know how it has been disposed of. Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—If I heard the hon. mem- ber, Mr. Macintosh, make such a statement, 1 should have

due, to the best of our knowledge; but it may happen, as | before, that when they come in we may find many who have had receipts for money charged against them, which they have paid to Mr, Desbrisay. In reference to the back rents, if Government get £500 they will be well off. It would be better to wipe them off altogether, or, if charged at all, let

immediately contradicted him. There, is, however, £1,400) itr | examining them.

Lands had never been called upon for them ; no doubt he had vouchers for everything he had received. it was the business of the members of the comuinittee to see to it before that time. The accounts had been before the house three or four days. Had the hon. member for Prince County (Mr. Clark) produced his vouchers ?

Mr. CLARK said, those vouchers were paid into the Treasury, and were charged. He asked who certified that account. The best course was to adjourn the debate, till they got the vouchers before thein,

The motion was then put-on the resolution, when there ap- peared in favor of it—

Hons. Messrs. Palmer, T. H. Haviland, Montgomery. and Longworth, Messrs. T. Heath Haviland, Yeo, Laird, Cooper, Clark, and Perry.—10.

Against it.—Hons. Co], Secretary, Col. Treasurer, Whelan, Lord, the Speaker, Mooney, and Wightman, Messrs, Munro, McIntosh, Dingwell, and McDonald.—11.

Hon. Col. Secretary moved that the Speaker take the chair, and the chairman report the report agreed to.

Mr. T. HEATH HAVILAND thought it ‘vas very indelicate of the Hon. Col. Secretary to move that the Speaker take the chair, considering the peculiar manner in which the committee of public accounts had been appointed, that not one of the minority had been on it. Then too he had proposed the motion that the Speaker take the chair; and had, he(\r. H.) supposed, a majority to back him. ‘There were many other things to be examined into in those accounts. If some of the minority had been on the committee, as they would have been in every other civilized community, they might have had an opportunity of

Hon. COL. SECRETARY said, the hon. member stated what was not true. It was tie place of the minority to examine the accounts before them ; they had the whole acounts on the table ever since they had been submitted. ‘They might have made inquiries of the chairman of the committee of public accounts ; and they had a chance of examining them, as they had beeu

it be for the two last years, and let the Government take it | wr: SS MEMaT HAVILAND ihe ah eal Minuit» out in chain-bearing or in opening new roads, which would is ve BU’, Eis thee badass baa ih y a oe ee ic caked exainining them ; but they had not had the chance of knowing benefit the people _ : , ; the whys and wherefores. If they would have asked the chair- Mr. LALRD.—There has been a gréat deal of unfairness) man of the committee on public accounts, they would not have practised all through the whole aflait of this estate. It! known, unless he was in the secrets of Her Majesty’s Govern- would be better to give it up to the people altogether, and be} ment. ‘This was the place, when the house was in committee done with it, than to have it a load on the country. on the public accounts. What were they in that committee Mr. DINGWELIL.—L was an advocate for the purchase for, but to see that the public accounts of Prince Edward Island of this estate, and thought it would be the means of freeing | YEF® Correct; and if anything were doubtful, to put questions

wae tie # . why it was so? ‘This was the proper committee to do it in. the peopie from the bondage of leasehold tenures; and i Hon. COL. SECRETARY replied that the vouchers for the

believe the Land Purchase Bill will in time work well, or [! jrems alluded to by him, were there, if the hou. member pleased should not haye supported it. When the Loan Bill was) to look at them.

mooted, L supported it; fur I thought we could do good to| Mr. CLARK said, he saw no great necessity for that hurry ; the country by it, and confer a boon upon the peeple. It is, they would take up the time with Brls detaining them; and ‘however, objected -by the opposite party that if will not be now-they had no time to wait on those accounts. He said, of

‘self-sustaining; but I am willing to take a share of the re-| there were any more items such as that alluded to by Hon. Mr.

AF ' a <9 Nias ms | Longworth, he would not sanction them. | sponsibility upon my shoulders, for the sake of making the| Hon. T. H. HAVILAND said, it was plain that the minority | tenants of this Island freeholders, It is not measures that! hag not taken advantage of the opportunity they had of ex- \the opposition are arrayed against, but it is the mea who aimining those accounts. A book was brought befure the House advocate them. I do not think the Bill wiil injure either | for the first time He had asked the chairman “ Did you see proprietor or tenant; bat rather be a benefit to boib. As) the vouehers’?? He badsaid,* no; {sawnone.’’ How, then, to the complaints made about the working of the affairs of 8 it possible that the minority could know ?

the Worrell Estate, it should be recollected that it is yet) , Mon. Mr. LORD was curprised that the chairman of the : . . wt) 4 Committee on public accounts, had not been sent for. tie only a new thing, and requires time yet to bring it aboat.

; ’ . ‘ . | ought to know about the matter. When the affairs of that estate are got in proper working) Mr. TP, HEATH HAVILAND said, he must rise to say that order, it will be seen how satisfactory they will be. How-| the hon. member was very fond of launching out ais censures ever, there is one privilege which the opposition cannot de-} upon the chairman of the Committee, who was a young member prive us of, and that is, to hope for the best. Some say it) ofthe House. The whole burden ought not to be left upon hin.

will not pay 25 per cent. ; but I hope it will pay 75 per cent. | [f any censure should rest on any one, it was upon Hon. Mr.

‘ me ; ) Wightman, and not upon his (Mr. Haviland’s) colleague. Hon. Mr. PALMER then submitted the following re-| Hon. Mr. WIGHTMAN replied, that if the hon. member

| solution :-— | found objections, he ought to have asked to see those vouchers. Resolved, Tuat it is opinion of this Committee, that the | There had been so much said on that affair, that he thought it ‘the Commissioner of Public Lands, in Charging the sum of "as for cavilling. Every item in the accounts had been before

1. S| £267 7s. Ghd., for disbursements in his account, submitted to | e committee and approved of. account of his expenses. ‘he hon. member, Mr. Lord, | £267 7s. Ofd., for disburse nf

oe , au thinks the Government ought not to employ wood-rangers. | the contre! of this Government as the preSent Commissioner | But even, if after paying them the Government lose a few |

: . | Hon. Mr. MONTGOMERY said, the proper way would bs ’ « we. ¥ © <n . a a eoear , sh ua aot macaaee aeee ee | to report progress ; and let al! those vouchers be brought forward. L ‘ ’

j yoy oon , . Lon s re Ww Ie amount no vouchers have been laid before the House, has! Hon. COL. SECRETARY said, because’ there wes a maj

: 6 the Goloniel Se _rity of the House that did not doubt the honesty of them, were acted contrary to the requirements of the Colonial Statute, | 0) ty deluy 2? Was the House to be detained in its business,

under the authority of which he received his appointment as pecause a few members pleased to doubt the vouchers. In such Commissioner.” jthat account there were £200 for disbursements. That was

Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—That resolution puts a | not the time to examine inte them ; the past fortmght had been wrong construction on the acts of the Commissioner. He the time for that purpose. Sureiy the committe were to do it;

i J jit was enough to ask the chairman of that committee respecting ye NUNES ed NEES Biv SbOTE Same Ty IN ena jany item. But there was a majority of the House satisfied with Hon. Mr. PALMER.—The Land Purchase Bill says the | them, there was no occasion for further inguiries. ' money collected by the Commissioner must be paid by him} Hon. Mr. PALMER said, he hoped hon. members took a into the Treasury, and if he requires any money he must get| better view of this subject, and remembered that 1 was the duty

it by warrant, as any other officer is compelled to do. Now, ) of the minority more especially than the majority, to ferret into

: . ema h li _ con-, those accounts ; and when they and the public knew that the if he i nen nisenn( tp peene f ie ee Bill )}accounts befure the committee involved sums nearly to the trary to the express conditions 0 ~ oo ets ane *lamount of £50,000. He asked the committee, the accounts

he is at least deserving of censure. The hon. member, Mr. | having been before thei from five o’clock up to the present Lord, praises the Commissioner on one side of his mouth and | hour—to eight o'clock, if they were to be limited to three hours cepsures him on the other; but, sir, the method of giving’ to examine those accounts ; and however necessary they might a blow and a kiss alternately is not the thing. We must be| think it was to put forth remarks on those accounts, that they bold, and censure where it is deserved. were to be closed up—that the committee were too arbitrary,

Hon. Mr. LORD.—I will oppose the resolution. No! public officer has been asked for vouchers, and until they | have been asked and cannot produce them, it is not fair to censure them. However, I do not wish to screen the Com- missioner of Public Lands; but I will see justice done, as far as in me lies, T. Kirwan, Reporter.

Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH thought all the vouchers had not been sent tothe house ; for unless he had happened to get hold of one of them, which had it gone to the Committee on public accounts, they would not likely have seen anything more of it.

It was an account of Mr. Stamper against the Government for a travelling desk, 35s,a knife 6s., &c., for the Surveyor | General. ‘Those things ought to be examined into.

Hon. COL. SECRETARY explained that the Commissioner |

money, be greater than even the Col. Secretary himself. I | agree with the Hon. Mr. Lord that there is no need for the’ About the Worrell Estate being an unfortunate affair, I fully | agree with the hon. member that it has been a loss to a

concerned, and if its late proprietors was enriched by the

sale of it, the Governmont will, before it is off their hands, |

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time, at last up to their neck in the “ slewgh of despond.” Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—Government could make an order to disburse the expenses of the Commissioner. Mr. MACINTOSH.—Still, such an order don’t justify any one who abuses his authority. But I think the Hon. |

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of Crown Lande had to go to the Worrell Estate with bis books

in order to settle with the people. He supposed, if a travelling | desk was provided for the Surveyor General, such an article

and would shut up at the hour of seven o’clock ; for he under. stood that there was a desire on the part of the house to rise at seven o'clock. But no, there was an objection then from the Hon. Col. Secretary himself, that they should sit and go on; yet they had no sooner got intu that subject than the Hon. Col. Secretary showed great excitement to get this committee closed > and indeed he might think to carry his purpose by threatening those around him, end hope to end that investigation if he chose. He (Hon. Mr. Paliner) appealed to the pub|ic whether the mem- bers of the minority bad not been stadiously kept from the Com- mittee on public accounts. Now, too, when they were on those accounts, they were to be shut up and the time for inves- tigating them limited to two or three hours. Some hen, mem-

' bers had stated that they had various other items to inquire into,

andsohad he. He thought something was to be done about the accounts of the Worrell estate ; and he could enumerate six or seven more items which he had marked for discussion. He thought if they silently submitted to that arbitrary motion which

in similar situations. When the| was then put to close the committee, and close the investigation Deaton tie ot Coes tense tee so far as oe were concerned, he said then, thet they deserved

Commissioner of Crown Lands visited the people, they were | 80 anxious to buy the land that they prevailed on him to take

to be hissed out of their places by those whose interests they

the money, and he had at another time to enter into the accounts | would thus sacrifice, as those who voted for it would, if they the money received from them, and he paid out some of the did so. But he wanted to see if there was a majority present

d. There ought to be a separate account for it, | who would go with the hon. member, Hon. Col. Sec., and close | he must say. ‘he members of the opposition took the whole | the committee, when it was asserted that there were several

of it for disbursements ; but it was no such thing. The mem- | items to be discussed yet.

bers of the house knew that the Commissioner of Crown Lands

Hon. Mr. MONTGOMERY thought the hon. member should

‘had never been brought up to business; and therfore he was, sot compare the Public Accounts with the Bill before the House = ’

not so particular as a merchant would be in putting every thing | to-day. The whole Isiand had a right to know how the amounts under its own heading, not thinking that it would be cavilled contained in those accounts had been expended ; but they had

12 a few years we will be unable to obtain boards for any Col. Secretary is right when he says it is better for the Com- purpose whatever, without importing them. If the Govern- | missioner to go into the country for the purpose of collecting, tment would protect the public property, by employing wocd- | than to compel the people to come to town for the same pur- Tangers, and give them a few pounds per year for their ser- | pose.

Viees it would not be lost, but be a positive gain tothe; Hon. Mr. PALMER.—As to the advantage of letting the, country. In New Brunswick the case is different, where the , public lands out on stumpage, [ think with Mr. Lord, that lorests Of timber are almost inexhaustable; and no wood- it will be a loss to the Government to maintain wood-rangers. |

rangers are required ; but in this Island, if the timber is not, It is better to give the people a chance to obtain tinrber when,

£200 a year ; and he might find his own travelling desk.

at. He had put all under one heading ; but all the iiewa were | not that interest in the B.ll alluded to. [t was gentlemen of there " the majority who were now acting in an arbitrary manner; they

Hoo. Mr. LORD said, if that was a sample of the vouchers, would not allow the Chairman to report progress. “Many xecoints

‘he would like to see the whole of them. He had courage) had not been brought forward; he thought the Chairman should ‘enough to state that be would not sanction the first article report progress, that they might see what was in them.

. ; be “ort > 7 .. i ¢ if ' > that the Surveyor General was paid Hon. COL, SECRETARY asked, what then was the use ¢ Chpsged in i xe, anw tbe : . {having Auditors. These genilemen were opposed to the Go-

Mr. COOPER said, to say the least of the matter, it had | vernment in every shape. Some hon. members said they had been very loose indeed ; and they ought to express an opinion | nol had a chance of examining those accouate, aud stated Ut -”

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