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i??? was only every weatfattempt on the

part of the Premier to bring some credit upon the Government for the wonderful way in which they fost- ered those industries. Why does he not come out andvsay that a. great deal of the auccme o! those indus- tries is due to the men who were in charge of those nlzations? And tboflfnen would probably have made a success-of those industries-no mat- ‘ for what the Government did. If the Government gave them'free offices and lent them men, and. so on, in Sims building, it was not" reriTly the Government that did it-it was the

people. They paid the bills. But year

after year we have had the same thing - out of the mouth of the Premier- the wonderful work that the present Minister of Agriculture did when he was in here before, and which he has done ever since, in order to-pro- moto-rthese industries, and especially the seed potato industry. But the unfortunate thing about it is that -now it has been the means of bring- ing the farmers of this Province to the verge of rulnation. '

Mixed lFarmlng

l ' 1 have heard the Minister d ss- ricuiture say that mixed farming is the prong thing for this Province. 1

believe he is talking absolute sense"

when ~he says that, and I think it was I serious thing lf the farmers» of this Province have been led away too much into this potato industry. which, after all. is more or less a gamble.

"Our marked progress in dairyirlg," he says, ‘iswindicated by the fact that our butter graded the highest during the past year. of any in Can- ada; and. our cheese graded a close second to Ontario, whldh Province

.ittained the highest grade in- Can- ada." I would like to ask the Prem- ier. is that the first time that this ‘happened? Is it" the first [time in

, the history of this Province that our

butter graded the highest in Canada and our cheese second? Does the

Premier know when ,it happened

first? Does he know what Govem- ment was in power when that very notable thing which is recorded in the Speech from the Trche transpir- ed for the first tinlein the history of this Province?" It was not in the days of the Stewart Government, was

m (Applause). " Thosr wonderful

things which are-recorded now in the Speech-from the Throne have been“ going on for several years, and

a good many of, them happened for

the first time under the regim‘; of the Stewart Government; and If that very satisfactory condition of affairs is possible in the Province attire pre- sent“ ime, it ls due principally ‘to one man, the man who has thg superin- tendance of those matters in hand; that mplendid official, Mr._ John A. moribund. the superintend'e'fi€“"of the dairylng indust y in this Pryo- vlnoe. And perhaps my hon. friend the Premier knows under what Gov- ernment he was appointed. It was not under the Saunders Government

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but it was under the Stewart Gov-‘

ernment. My hon. frlend—the Min- ister of Agriculture notes that down. because when he gets up to reply he is going to say that" the "Stewart Government had nothing at all to do with his appointment. But they had as much to do with""it as any Government. It is one of those ,ar- raugelpents under which the Gov- ernment pays one-third of the sal- ary, likp the appointment of the Provincial health ofilcer. I

lion. Mr. Lea: Where is the order- ill-council appointing him?

Dr. Maolvlillan: I haven't __got

charge of the public documents of

"this province at the present time. Iron. Mr, Lea: Ask that it b, tab- led. ' - "" Dr. Maoltflllan: I am not requir- ing it. if you want lt, ‘you ask that ~ it be‘ tabledl Are all llibolntments by order-ln-oouncll recorded, in the history oi’ this Province? Hon. Mr. Lea: There are all recor- ded- if they ' are appointed by the povemlilent t Dr. Maebfillen: We were~ at this ‘point before, and "my hon. friend ‘pried ‘to soy that the Stewart Gov- ernment had nothing at all to do with the appointment of this gentle- man. Yetwe gave him omee room:

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Poultry Business

Again: "Our Egg "and Poultry As- sociation v tinues to make‘ gratify- ingprogrem." , The Premier elabor- ated on- this, and be was right at home; in fact, you would think he was talking as an ell-superintendent of a chicken farm. I believe it is a Job it which. he may devote his wonderful talents when he attains the real object of his visits to Otta- wa-that Fourth Judgeship. It is a splendid hobby for a Judge to _pay attention to in his spare moments, that particular form of development in ‘ickens whereby “you can re- place "the yellow, tough fibre of the chicken with that white, edible, creamy, product by the use of a proper admixture of certified milk_ instead of grain in the feeding oftho chicken." (Laughter). We expected a lecture from the Premier, and he certainly gave us a lecture on oer- tain phases ‘of agriculture. A gen- tleman who has travelled as much as he has is very interesting. In fact. it was something like a. reading- of Gulliver's Travels. But whe'n he was telling us a. fewthlngs about this. Egg and Poultry Association he might have said that thejssocistion stands unique in thehistory of the Dominion as the most successful co- . operative organization in Canada. It is too bad that it was organized many years ago ~by a. Conservative Gov- ernment, and that the great devel- opment of this indust y, bywhlch so many eggs are now hatched in these Jnoubatory, wer; introduced also by a Conservative Government and fin- anced in the first years of its opera- tion by a Conservative Government. Th9 Premier could have told us all that and then we would_ have known just how much credit to give to the Government of the day, and how much should go to the Government under which those things were or- ganized andto the-men who are making a suc of the business.

The same is true regarding the improvement of our lambs and bac- on hogs. Whengmy hon. friend was through discussing lambs, we knew beyond peradventurp of a doubt that the Minister of Agriculture in this Government had changed the tasto of the meat of our lambs dur- ing the past couple of years; that that peculiar flavor which is all its Bwn, developed during the Saunders regime. due to that splendid man who directs the energies of the Min- Mry of Agriculture, (Laughter). He didn't like to say that hlltlsfll. 0h. nol He is too meek and modest. But the Premier has no colnpurlction in that regard; he tells.us everything.

“The year 102B," we are told, "has been a year of agriculture} improve- ment." gind this improvement is summed up by the Premier in the last words of‘his speech in this dc- bate, when he seid that the teachers chose a most‘ incpportune time for making their demands. as the con- dition of the farmers "has never been so lead in the history of the Prov- Compare those statements. and you will gather lust how much has been done iorA-lsrlcvlturejyri ing tbs year. Why. then. this "ll!- glorleus boasting in-ithe 6th para- graph? Is it necessa y, or is it non- ‘Fllse? ispblawi- " - '

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Fox Panning

Paragraph ‘l deals with fox farm- ing. will the Premier indicate any- thing that this Government did last‘ year for fox farming?‘ Not a single thingl The most that was ever done for fox farming was when the Ste- wart Government put through“ a grant of 6.00001 order to establish an experimeptgl {ox station in this Province, and when the wide-awake prop of Prince County. who wanted toget that station there, came for- ward and put up the money them- selves. and took the station-to Sum-

ernment of expending that money. That lithe most that was ever done to help the for: industry in this Pro- vince; It has been built up and fostered. not bi’ 011° Gillemlnmti but by the brains and enemy 0f private indiVlduals. Then why should it fig- uleln the 8900011 M!!! ¢\I.°__T|l"'\°'- an something accomplished l?! "IR

My hon. friend from Sulhfnerslde mbqgfl ug in dgin-es which irannot be disputed what a w ul indus-_ w, u; 'fi_._g3,lflf|j000 elm out of

indium I know of: when foxes NI- letered laatyeafi" are worth 01000-000

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The nest "paragraph deals with ‘ nus Govern- ment. surname to t-hl 811mb mm

W! ‘N IWQIMMI 0.1"" ' , something won= ~ ;_' " . for or the technical ‘about mind. rlfllligtbfi llinilterof to introduce I bill‘ in the

grant ‘was

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a very proper thing for the Premier to have done, because it is money which is available for this purpose, and this Province. 1 think, would have been one of the provinces that would shave suffered lf that grant had been cut off this year.

So fares the technical grant is concerned. we were never ill g. posi- tion" to take Juli advantage of that; but the argument presented by the present leader of the Opposition was this, that that grant, which was de- voted in other Provinces so largely to purely technical education, might well, in Prince Edward Island, be ut- ilized I include agricultural subjects. Bo great was the forcgrof that ar- gument that the recommendation as madp by the Duncan Commission "that so far as this province was concerned the Dominion" tech- nical grant mlght bemade available for agricultural purposes. Then the Stewart Government had to confer with officials of the Department of Labor, whereli/ a certain ‘agenda was drawn up, and we were reaping the benefit of this grant when we went out of power.- It is out of this grunt that the salaries of those school in- spectors are paid, about whom the Premier referred in his remarks. If’ there isany credit to be given fur this technical grant, then I claim that the Stewart Government must not be forgottei; and if we had re- malned in power we would have had itlextended to include school teach- crs. .

The Patriot, when this wonderful Speech was given to it for publica- tion. in referring to the technical Erlmt said“ that the matter of tech- nical education was inaugurated by a Liberal Government. was destroy; ed by _a Conservative Government undue-inaugurated by the present Government.‘ That just shows how much dependence can be placed all a newspaper report of that kind. It is true we closed the Technical School, because we found out it was not worth the cost, that it was too expensive a business. tile continued the short courses substituted there'- fore; courses which did a great deal of good. AMIIQW we come to the present season, where nearly all- thoso courses in technical education have been abolished with the snoop- tion of somp courses In domestic

' That is the manner of “re- establishment". under this! Govern- ment.

Flshrles Instruction

The next paragraph deals with the fishing industry. ','Ii. is gratifying to note that 'free instruction is now

available for our fishermen-o. short course now being held at Halifax, N. S. in the preparation of pickled and boneless fish and in the co-op? erative marketing of fish." I do not know very much about this, I think my hon. friend from Morell, when he gets up to speak, will be ablejo

tell us all about this matter, and how plant over at Halifax is going t0 be to the fisher-

men in this Province. I understand it is a freezing plant. I would have liked the Premier or some one who had talked on this question to tell us whether those plants are ex- pensive. I do.not imagine it will do a fisherman very much good to go_ over there and learn how to freeze the product unless lt‘ls possible to es- tablish a plant at homc. Are they ex- pensive plants; Mr. Premier?

(The Premier did not reply). Dr. MacMillan: I will ask the hon.

gentleman from_ Summe ids.

Mr. L. It.‘ Allen: It depends on the

size and capacity. They have them all sizes from a piano-weighing about 500 lbs. io big plants weighing t ns.

Dr MacMillan, That is the kin of

information we want. The thing is practical?

Mr. Allen: Yes-very. Dr: Maclvllllan, That is-the stuff

.we want. Therefore it should be ad- vertised to the fishermen of this pro- vince. If they can get the proper in- structlon and if those plants can be madeavaileble to 0nd. or more fish- ermen, then it has merit and I be- lleve it is a good thlngflt was estab- lished by the Dominion Government, ofIcourse, and the Eredit must go to that Government and not to my hon. friends on the other side. '

“Satisfactory prosrees." we are

cold hi the some paragraph of the Speech from ‘the ‘rhrorie. "has been made during the past year in clean- ing and improvinlrtise oyster beds in Richmond and Malpeque Bays}! . I wnguever aware that there were two Bey: up here, Rlchmondwnd Mal- pequei I guess I must be letting out. of date. I was always under the im- pruned that it was calf one Bay, but it that there are two.

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eradication been completed in uuusqyuughaibuebnatsumyit to make. ‘Mohave ehsy msonnw believe

within . ihsyuxt m.

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vlved." I hope it is true, because that oysterindustry was a. wondelful Business at one time. But if anyone will take the trouble to examine the

that it declined gradually, yeartafior year, for a great ...number of years. Whether the oysters ran out natur-

mud destroyed the, beds is still a question; but it was always‘ sup- posed that with the introduction of those small oysters a disease was brought in from the Southern Slates, which destroyed the oysters. ‘Now I do not know by what ‘author- ity it can. be.said that over the whole of that area,_many hundreds of acres in extent, it has been estimated that the disease is extinct. I suppose it is one of those wonderful things that is quite possible under this Govern- ment, and we shall only have to pos- sess our souls in patience to find out whether it it true or not that within the next two years ouroysier indus- try will be revived. The junior mem- ber from Summerside gave us-some examples which, if they become gen"- eral, will no doubt have a great ef- fect 0n_ that industry.

Education

Thednext matter we come to is one of great importance. I refer to‘; edu- cation. It is quite true that any one reading- this paragraph for-the first time would, be rather’ impressed: “The standard of educational offic-

'lency has not been lessened during

the past year." But when one anal-

at all. Why the paragraph is written in that particular style I do not sup- pose any person, except the- Premier couldtell; because he, is the author of this wonderful effusion, Did he expect that the standard of educa- tional efficiency would be lessened? It what‘ he says is correct, there is probably danger in the year to colne.

“My Government has increased the number of School inspectors in the Province to nine, in the [hope that by closer. supervision the young- er teachers may be materially. as- sisted." There is no doubt that the appointment of additional inspectors would be a help; and tile Stewbrt Govemmefit made ihe arrangements for, them, but if they wanted to in- crease the efficiency of education in this Province there were betterlways 0f 00in: it than by the appointment of inspectors. and- more especially than by the appointment of persons’ who have no qualification for in- spectorship. There are certain quali- flcatlolls necessary for school in- spectors in this Province, and some- times it is welLfor a Government in making appointments to scan well those qualifications before‘ doing so;_

them again. But thegreat question at the present time before the-Gov- ernment and before the teachers, if we believe what is in the press for the last fewweeks, this question of salaries. The Premier has said many things on this question ;he said that the increase asked for by the'téach- ers is $87,000, a large amount which is made up of a demand for an in- crease, for teachers of from one to two years experience, of 1_0 per cent, froin two to five years, of 25 per- cent; from five to ten yearsn of 50 perceht; and over ien years, ‘of 100 per cent. Hejweilt oh to show that 40 per cent of the total increase will go to fifteen per cent of the teach- ers, and that these teachers are nearly all in Charlottetown and Sumnlersi’ . I am not questioning the figures at all, but the wholsjpolnt is this, that we do not believe that even in Charlottetown and in gSum- moulds cur teachers are over paid.

Salaries Question

1 will submit that statement as a reasonable proposition.’ The‘ highGst salaried teacher in this Province gets $1800 a year. Do you think that a man who has spent a lifetime in the profession is thus overpaid? I know one spegiflelpstanceof a. man with a- large family-fa man who is not‘ in robust health and who fre- qlfently has to call in akiocwr. And sometimes doctors are expensive if we.ar"o ~to believe the hon. gentle- man from Rustlco. now is that man to get along? Is his large salary "of $1800 a year going to govery far in the bringing up of a family and ed- ucating them adequetely. - ‘

_ Hon. Mr. LePage: Ask the farmers in the country what they think of an 01800 salary. .

DrJthoMillan: That is’: very in- telligent lntnpection which‘ the hon. member frohl Rmtico puts up as a rebuttal! but 1 am in a position to know just, howfar that salary goes in this particular case. There an oniyaveryfewofthosemenpefi haps a fewjqaders who stand at the top of the teaching profellon in thisrrovlnscrme who si-s sides thlllv Iam. It iaagoodlong whllssmser ttilght school, but r em itlllreolem- Mi‘ iheblg salary I resolved’! fi-

olaiulifimmiiabwmsitnlsallumq - _ .

records of"that industry, he will find "

ally or, whether the dllilng of the.

yzes it, there is simply nothinggln it‘

otherwisethey will have to cancef

. made of great importance irflcduca-

lion. Mr. Les, You were‘ pretty well paid. r

lion. Mr. LePagc: I think you were over-paid. . ' ‘

Dr. MaoMlllan, Very likely I was. (Laughter). not is the reason next. But this particular farmer of whom by hon. friend‘? from Rustico speaks abused me one-time “ I asked for_an increase in salary, through the method which is lust now recom- mended by this Government to tlle teachers. “Goto those school trus- tees with- whom you are engaged, and if you are "doing good work they will increase your élpplementflfl _ In this, particularr instance I went and asked for an increase in upplement and I got an increase of how muqh? Ofififteendollars for the year! And this farmer to whom I applied never spoke to me afterwards. 4"

A Comparison

‘Ihere is a. great deal said about the teachers" essy gob; glmply pp. cause his hours are not. longer and he does not go to work on Saturday. Let me DOint out that there is noth- ing for them to do on Saturday, or they would do it. The routine of work is laid down by Statute. If the 090910-01 thisProvirlce want them to teach longer hours than from half-pest rilne to half-past three, why do‘ they not say so? But it is a, vervjsillv thing to say that be- cause they have that“ much time of! "they are better paid than others are. The point is, are they paid enough? If you look at the increases ‘handed out the other-day in one of the cities of Ontario, it would open your eyes; $2,000. $3,000 and up, al-l mostmdoubled. That is the way they paid their teachers and there is no question raised there about them being over paid. .

. Teaching is a difficult profession, and especially so 1n this Province.“ "We ‘all realize that, but the ‘question l8. what are we going m do about m The PWIIIWFBBYSN‘! believe that the small schools should be eliminated. How can a teacher teaching all Brades do well. There should be grad- ed schools.’ That‘ is quite correct. He has arrived at the point I have always pointed out since the days of "W; best-oi-ell Governments, the Bell Government of‘ which my hon. friend the Premier was no mean fol- lower. It Wfl-Fthat Government, he says, that handed out the first in- crease to the teachers; but that, of course, is not cdrrect. He always for- gets that under the regime of the Hon. Chief Justice Mathieson theiegphpps got an. increase .of $50,000, which probably in those years meant just as much as the $100,000 wllich'came later. There w» certainly a. great 49.1 of difference indlts meaning to U"! PWPIO. because \yhen Premier Mathieson wanted that money to in- crease the teachers’ salaries he went to Ottawa, he. realised. on those