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THE CHA WN GUARDIAN

Notes By The Way

Saskatchewan II warming up for the provincial election on June 2, now only ten days away. The air , temperature was up to 95 degrees in the shade In Saskatoon on Mon-

ylhat £0112 of

totown:

Maritime Stationers, Carter I 00-. Queen 8060i- A. Univ/n. 8tnnip"\enuur. ll ll Bu It t . are“: Dllilzflrl: 2o rivrh-i: Park M‘ J. D. Taylor, urulion riireet. _ ni-iii-iiniii mu: 011-. "M"

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The GUARDIAN may be ohtuinedironi ‘the following nlento in Charlot- _ \V .0 _.\\’righi, Kent Street ‘Veil.

W .i\. Johnston. Noiituifllf- * ' Old South mo‘. .-\I*'""l'» l!

FRIDAY, MAY 22, 1925

J. i‘. Duly. Queen Street.

Hteplien bully. Richmond at. it. ‘fluimiui \)'l|lie, 125 lfllm Art“. tn-il (iuuuct, iii-cut George bl. hirer-i, nuninicrnlde. ii Pnquet, hfnuriii. are». ' beliuttx hay; Agency, Mew lurk

ARBOR-EMPIRE DAY

If you are tired trying to make a -fire with

Airbor and EIIIDIFB Dliy wail be

-. i It I

poor Coal, end your celubmtul In] nllud our 1on1)’ ill‘; ' (‘Ullllllfy sclioos t ay. s L‘ . - trouble today lirution Iius hci ii an annual event

ordering a load of SCOTCH COAL At

i. Pitlftlftl a ti.

Phone 240

ilurin-g tlil~ Ilifr time of praoticailly all who arc living £0113)’. “Vilma” Illll, In the birthday of "Victoria the Good" and, after her death. contin- ut-d in hcr int-riiory as Empire Day. ‘ii-any hallowed associations ‘cling "the Our-en's Birthday.” commemorating as It does one of the

u rou ii d

brightest. ‘periods and many of tho lllfflSl important events in the his-

“? " lory of the British Er-npirfl

g 1 y‘ It ‘is tilting that the day should he ’ seriously. t-ujoyrilily and insructiv- Q t-Iy observed, fitting ‘that the chil- ‘i . I dren of today should be jreniilndhvl of

the ‘way their heritage has come to them of the sacrifice, the hvrolsiu and ‘the patriotism that have liuilt up the greatest Erivpirc that the

We have 1500 Bushels of '0‘ Etnpml good heavy Hecleaned white \\“IlIiL'I1 is now theirs to maintain. to Branncr Sced Oats for spur Cash 90 Cents Bushel done up in Bags of 3 ' hushels each. Bags 10 Cents '~ each extra.’ F. O. B. our Seed

ivorld has evir soon, an .

, improve, to live for and, If neces-

sary. to die for. per bushel. _ Provision has been made In to- day's ‘programme, for rcfrence.

(IiPUCi and indirect, to these vital

i

Q st matters. The programme will be ‘ ore. = ,

‘ rzirrioil out under th-c British flag, . woo Bushels o‘ exgra “tho flag that bravcd a thousand

'yi.>‘ai'.s the battle and the breeze."

instructive addresses will b‘? ‘given .

h)’ patriotic

choice Imported Banner Seed

‘lllbillllltfilit citizens,

EDITORIAL NOTES

iii-tn‘ tlie mogr-illscrlnilnuvnz Liberal can now find only iin ht:- uasioiinl hole in the road to coin- iplillln of and even the conservatives

are complaining of these

The “mo. of May" this year will be the 25th but will be Ill-st “B e"- Joytihlo a ‘holiday as if it fsll on Lhe zicccpted date. "A rose liv any

olhi-r name. &c.”

One irresponsible auiru drlvwr in 1i thousand will make the ‘mad dan- ‘ginr-ous for the other 999. If that. ONE is looked ‘after by ‘the authori- ties lh‘ ‘others cun look after tlhcrn- selves.

“The fierce light that boats upon n,throne" is rinthlnig’ t0 monkey with. The Which migh-t hc ‘ixcusuhle ‘in n taxicab

cquivocation

ili-Inr who secured an illegal fare through trickery, ‘is not. on‘ly Inex-

cus-able ‘hut dnmnulble in a prime llI'Il1I‘SiI"i". -it should be Infra dig for it prime minister to equivocate.

The shore front at Victoria Park is ‘-_o b» protecttrd from the cn- crcach-mcnts of the sea'by a con- crete wall. This is a move in the riglit direction. Wonder when ‘that

pot=~ntially' beautiful sheet f water

day last. Down here we neverhave

It near so hot as that, even summer election. i - ,.

taking n Cabinet position King Government.

In

Premier next year, as he will hither be defeated at home or elect- cd to go to ‘Ottawa later.

Some months ago a rumor crop- ped up that Hon. Dr. Baxter, M.P., for Saint John, would retire from federal honors, ‘for the time ‘lit least, and return to local politics as leader of the Conservative opposi- tlon. The Fredericton Gleaner now confirms this report, and states that at a recent meeting of the 0ppo~ sition, Mr. C. AD. Richards, the pre- sent loader tendered his resigna- tion, and In doing so intimated that lion. Dr. Baxter, with whom he has

always Ireen friendly, would suc- ceed him as Conservative leader

In provincial affairs. An Opposi- tion convention will meet In Fred- ericton next week when it is ex- pected that a formal tender of the leadership will be made to Dr. Baxter nnd accepted by him.

That no Dominion general elec- tion will be held until 1926 was

intimated by George W. Kyte, M. P., chief Liberal whip In address- ing a political meeting in Windsor, OnL, on Monday last. As in duty

in mid-

One canvelu against Premier Dunning in Saskatchewan is that he is about to enter the federal arena th’: ‘ For that ren- sou the Yorkton Enterprise, Pro- gresslve, intimates that his useful- ness is gone, that he will not be

y £11m: l. i... w. a4... no.

A LITTLE OLD

it has been well said that every» body has a right to be well horn. \\licri he is horir into tlie world lie has ii right to get an oven chance: with life.

Now most of us, If we think the inritti-i" over seriously enough, liavc conic to tlic conclusion, that all things considered, we have bet-u dealt with very fairly.

Some of us would like to he tullci", shorter, heavier", or lighter, perhaps would like to have u more pleasing tiouutcnunce nnd so forth. Now wliwt you have with which to battle with life, is what your folks gave you, and what you have slut-o done with your body.

What I am thinking about just now is tlie great number of “ner- vous" cases that nre seen about us. Petitilo who are just u little oddin their ways, who do not seem to mix in, or take part iu, ‘the various activities of life.

Some have vague fears about (lurk places, open or closed places. four of fire, or trniiis, of ships, of high buildings, fours about their heart, lungs, or. othcr parts of the body. They ge-t along pretty wcll but nevertheless they ure not normal.

Tllull tlicre is tlie epileptic, that unfortunate who always lives lii fear of these distressing attacks. And again there is the inelan‘ clioly type, the mental depressive type, whose thoughts are satire- liiues on suicide.

What is my point’!

Government forhnvlng kcpt all its promises and he says It stands! strorigrr now after its fourth ses-‘ slon than any previous governmentl since Confederation! That was nl lofty flight for Mr. Kyte.

known as Government Pond shall be; trarisfbriiried ‘iiriiao thy.‘ thin-g 0i

Also Imported “Abundancw and other var- ‘

UV’ t r ‘I? ' ‘ m o y ‘StHlI-{S- suitable for the occasion, will

‘tiiiii of their teachers and thi- pro- glirvwiiugs will be witnessed by par- lrii-nts and generally. We _._ ltrust IIIPH} will ho a "goodly attend-

till-Ill’

Mammoth Late Red Early Illcd Timothy 1 and 2 grades.

and chm", choice 711mm‘ of citizens prist-nt at vat-h of

‘Hi.- schools to express tht-Iir ‘inter- _ ‘ill-st iii and their sympathy with the & C0., Qulllli‘. s-diugs of III!‘ hliiiplrc Day cele-

4 . . i; liratutin. w; Llmiltld. t Supplementary to the Empire g flay programme Arbor Dav will ‘he observed on the school ‘grounds In ‘Irv-o and srhru-b planting, ‘games Zlllili uth“‘r amusements. As the historic “tZ-ith of May" faills this year on Sunday, t-ho holiday ‘will be observ- ed on Monday. 25th.

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APPRECIATED RECOGNITION

It was eminently ‘flitting that Ills Honour Lieu u» ‘nu nit Governor llotirtz should extend 'hls ‘official pal-ronavi-lh to the exercises 0f the (‘zulet Corps of the (iity Schools on tli‘ ‘ ciccaslon of their annual lpllbllllc inspection. \Vi,“.‘i[

Selenitc Hard Wall Fresh Cement Lime in (Tasks and

Barrels Carloads Just Received.

These ‘two cadet t-ortis, Kent and Queen Square Schotolrs. ‘have for several yleors at- tracted interested aittentiori admiration.

THE ROGERS HARDWARE C0., Limited. '

and in their dilfferent man-

euvers, on‘ their own campus or on public exhibition, thellr soldier-like

lllpcarantie. their excellent ilisclp- lino and their thorough knowledge or‘ lllu various military evolutions have ‘been a source of pride to ‘the city. The complements paid thiom on ‘this ‘lair-st occasion ‘by Cadet 051100!‘ Cllimiin Logan were wel-I merited and Willi“! the results of the various inspections throughout the Mil‘itary District are published we cxpeq to see these ‘tvyyo coi-‘ps mentioned among the leaders. This Cadets and’ tbtt ftlttfuctors "*9"? "Piireclated the kindness Rilfl lhWBMhi-lnelg _of yhmliogmir ‘n ‘helm; ‘lament fltyl-Ile ‘jlllblln Ili- BDOCUOII and, ‘In his tflllclal ciipac- "y M! the moiii-eneii-taivvirfllhrr-ir MSFMY- ‘MUM title Statute’) from the young recruits, smug ti» 4,, it ohmrld be, ‘and all clauses of citizens fully appreciate hhB till/bile spirit and hel-pful sympathy shown Iby lite ‘Honour In every Imowm-ent that makes for the betterment and walla/re of the City and tprotvlncg, The Lieutenant Oovanim- ‘n the social as ‘well an the official! cen-

WHEN YOU GO AFTER THE BIG FISH

You must have a depend- able rod, a good line and a hook that won't lei 'em get away.

Lin‘ addition to these you must have patience. We can't iupply you with the patience

“but we can chow you the belt in fishing tackle.

=5... oun WINDOW e:- ‘ Eon: vou euv ‘FHA-T FISHING ourrn‘

MeDONALD e nnantzv

lug at an expense ‘whiich would he

sh“: Sung by the ‘pupils “m,” dime but a {Human M "s woflh m m‘? suiuil tlicir chalice is of being agalu|

City,

ln a certalnlsoclety notice sentl to‘ tlio editor of a country news-E llllillid‘ the dnforiuatlon ivzis incideirb: ally given t-hat Mrs. Jones, who was

wltli licr gloves on," to which the’ tsdlitor added, -by way of emphasizY lng the common lot, "We ‘u-ecd ouri bread with our gloves on; wlt- need‘ l; “with our troueens on, ‘wt: need: it wit-h our ‘boots ou, and If our_ suiliscri‘be-rs pwid up wc would ‘have it."

Lloyds R-egtlster reports a some- v/lrat ‘untisiial case of iplloit nsponq ulhjilliiy. / A islllp, iwliI-le compuleorilyl collision

been iin

and ‘hcld to The owners claimed ‘re-I ‘payment thy this State of daIm-rhgos ivlrlch they had paid. The Supreme Court of (iormany ‘held itliut illie state was liable for tlic wrongful =ict of the ‘pilot whiilie‘ compu-isorlly in change ofuzhe ship as a smite of» finial and ordme-d tilrat ‘payment ‘be .‘uade accordingly. This (Idclelon, however. wiill not apply generally as a pilot ‘its only an advisory officer and does not take conltrol of the shlip. ‘In liltlmilflgff of the Kiel Onnnl and also of the Suez Onn-nl. the giilot Is an office-r of the State and ‘the State ‘is resporiislhlctor his riots.

blame,

This Is Queen Akxandru Rose Day. when tho la-dics of tlie l. O. l). E. will ru-ake their annual] appear- ance on the strnrts, ipersonnlly or by amiable young ‘lady proxies. sell- ing roses or rather glvllng them ‘in return lior a small cash contribu- tion. This is ‘one of the iIc-w sour- ces of revenue available to ‘the independent Order of t‘he Daughters of the Empire, one of the greatest institutions in the Empire. Their good work during the war ‘will never ‘be fully repaid. The I. O. l), E. has mlwn an motive poi-t In tlie educational-life of tthlo Empire, having among other good ‘vmfltg, an. trirlllilslied scholarships available to deserving yflwn! ‘men in every pm- vlnoe and in every dominrion‘ of itilie mtpire. We, u cftiiaene of all classes. cantidpe little In the good work ‘by ‘buying a. rose today 4mm

pifirimn

m of the province 'and Governorl ‘has Odmhlbly ifit-Ierl t‘ I hi‘ mm nimble: M» iiirh mil

_ Ihoaoureiik wolitiion. r h!

Awnefliwv -~ ‘ -.< ~-

i . ,1.‘

Ind 4| Itill dd“. ..

"I6 7mm! ladies who will greet us H! tlleetieetn.‘ Let every one weer f! M"! ‘i068? to show their owl-eel:

|capPd

It was a message of cheer, how- ever, for the rather down-hearted’ Liberals and Progressives now

bow ‘

whom have come tn realize ,

elected when [lie appeal country is made.

to thc They will at

sion nnd another $4,000 Indemnltyf. which would be lost to many of them if llic election were to be licld| this year. Many things have lrap-

Durcriibcr, 1021, that tilt‘ riot i~Iiccr-_ Ing to either Liberals or Progrcr-i-l slves.

The Drury Government fell‘ In 1923 with a sickening thud. In

the some ycar the Bell Liberal Government fell in this Proviiiuii.

Since then tlie Liberal Governmental have ‘fallen In Manitoba and Allien,

ta while In British Columhin au- other Liberal Government only rs-

deferit ‘liy tile skin of its tooth. This year the Liberal Gov- ernments in Nova Scotla and New.

with slim chances of success against strong and confident oppn-l sitlonuntl In Saskatchewan the dc- lent of Premier Dunning scams quite as probable as did the previ- ous Liberal tlcfcats iii Alberta were when they occurred.

The record of political events since 1921 makes It clear enough why Mr, Kyle has spoken a word m’ cheer to both Liberals nnd tPro- RNIBRIVPB by the promise of afl-fth Indemnity. All ofllcescoklng mem- brrs of tlie Commons will wel- come the announcement. In the order of nature more vacancies mny occur within n year in the Son- ate, the Courts and other high pint-cs In the land and the prospect of Iifu appointments to new places In the “$10,000 nnd upwards" class will no doubt open up from month to mouth. while the King Govern- ment lasts.

The raliwly prosperity that the Government organ: reported as Just around tlie corner, still figures lis a hope deferred. From week to wcck the receipts fall off as com- pared wlth corresponding weeks or months of last year. For the week ending Mny l4 the shortage was $190 059 as compared with tho week of a year ago, while for ‘the period from January i to May 14 the gross receipts were $77,530,884, which was Short ‘by $6,797,827 ‘,5! the! gross receipts fortlie like ‘peri- od l‘n 1924. The falling off during that time averaged more than a million dollars a month. la It e good time to build more railways?

The death of Colonel Ghambere, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, leaves vacant an ornamental poll- tlon and a comfortable salary. Twice u year, at ‘the opening and prorogation of Parliament this of- ficial knockl at the door of Commons eegmumnions t8 ll

in... of at... tiikryo. us.

.-u.~. ‘nus; ‘\- “~r~~"l'l“-llf

Ijust and right Is lie. 2:

Tliat as everyone bus a right to

of the above types (If illlllvidllulfi should be a matter of concern to

Itlicinstilvcs and to the community.

lirvt-stigaturu are able ‘ID inform us that nearly eighly P91‘ "W" "i the above mentioned nervous cas~ cs, could be traced to one or other oi the parents, the father In about illic-tillffl, and the mother in nearly two thirds of the cases.

Now it would be u serlo-us hus- iut-ss 'foi' many people wlii have

btauty tliut it ls capable 0f bccoin- Hitting iii Parliament, so ninriy ofililtle fltltlltltlfl such us tear of opt n

spaces, or an unusual concern tiliout their heart or lungs to he dc- prlved of any freedom of‘ llClIuli. Further, some of our brilliant niou and women have been epilep-

ilti-ist be assured of another sea-tics and some others liuvc ‘been of ‘IP05 ‘limb. 110010783 111118 IOWGTHI‘ .. . . , ,

n melancholy nature, nnd no hard and fast rules should beniade In this matter.

However my idea was to bring tlie ‘above figures to your attention,

my M. the 400 "humus herlbruqd pulled since they were elected iii and let you think about them uny-

way.

‘Qwo oo+o4>0+04+o4++o+0+4¢

f .‘-: Dolly Selections i FOR i

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g ‘(iiiartllan Renders g

fQ-QQ-O-OOO-Q-oeee o-eo-e 0o v-eoo 1 May 22, 1925

‘Gian/w Arvin TRUE:~—AscriI)e ye greatness unto our God. lie is

I“ charge m, a K10] can“, ‘Duo,’ hmldlrunswlck must face the electors the Rock, his work Is purfect: for.

all his ways are judgment: ri LIUII of truth nnd without iniquity. Dcuternouiy

.PRAYER:——~Our God nnd ‘Father, Thou urt our sliniiow from tlic heat, iI.|'l(I shelter troiu the storm. water in the wilderness, tlie shad- ow of a grcut rock Iii u wciiry land.

RICHES ~

Beauty is mine,

Of goodly earth and all-embracing skies;

Of light that glows on Fricudslilifs gracious face, And In ‘Love's eyes.

Music is mine, .

Of singing winds in Woodiflllllfl. waiters fleet,

Bird songs. gay laukhlfll‘ M"! the happy lilt 0f children's feet.

And Health is mine, To guard and keep with more to seek and gain, ‘In closer kinship with out doors- Sun, wind, and rain.

the grunt

Fnlr thoughts nre mine, rare minds. rich_ in abounding zest; Through covers of old hooks i en- tered in, Loved and possessed.

0f life's

Gladnetfs famine. Higher than love and deeper than

content- Life lathe gift. supreme, a gift . d vine, With klory bletit.

All ‘things are mine, 1 envy not a queen upon her throne; Lilo lays no fairer largees at her ‘ feet frhtiiftit my own, , —By May ‘Howe Dakln

z

ferhhn. An Ottawa doepltch tells tihsruitin, are five applicants roi- the vacant place and erduoup du- tlepmallrirorn Ottawa. Np others‘

The Promise

Reviewe (Jan. '26) | . Oliver Peck 'NOWIIIG

as‘. hfim about a pendllng ‘hill. Senator B: "l can't atoll ‘WOW? must ‘h-urry ‘U0 miy chlorine treat merit." I

Senator A: "l had my third yeti tardey and any cold ‘IB gone. it’: n great ‘thing?

Such ezchnngtiis may now h? heairti almost dolly ilu eiltiher thz Senna-lie or House, for Conzreflsmeh take thaw chlorine ‘treatment when‘ over ‘they feel a cold "coming on." President Coolidge recently sat chatting with his rhh-‘iiii, Bishop Wd-lliirni F. Anderson, of Cincinn- netil, The Bishop was auffeirlil! from a severe cold. "You iruus: go down and take a chlorine urea!» man-L," solid Mr. Coolidge. “i r‘- cently cured a bad cold in‘ that inantnclr." The Bishop book on hour's tciratiment in ‘the morning and the same In this afternoon. Af- ter lids arrival Ihome he wrote back and than-Iced t-he lwesiidunt. report- ing tho-r his cold was gout‘.

The Army doctors ‘have been cir- pwimvntlng with chlorine gas ‘for two years, wnd since February, 1924. u. ‘gas dhiamlbleu‘ ‘has been m ton-slant o-pairaitlon. Tltene nioiri‘ vii-an 2000 ‘persons have ‘been treat- ed. The Navy ‘Dispensary has op- erated a. chamber since April, 1924 and has treated more than 1200 cases, Before‘ these ‘two chambers were cstnibliished experiments were conducftvl at. the Edgewood Arsenal wlrcre 931 patients were ‘treated.

hflllml. Mr- KYIO Praised the Kinybo well born, marriage in the case Tm; makggaitptglof gippfiominlailOly

4.000 ‘pe-psons with ‘hitwe btsen give-n chlorine gas utiider illrectiionpf iueu of science in tihe govorniuioiit ev-r- vice. Tfhe results indicate that ll c-iiire for cmmiion colds and whoop- ing cough ‘has berm found.

fnir-ireziching as to exceed litiiiiuu ritilllty to visualize. For insto.ii<“.| ha "Public Health Service lnis jii-‘tl liilldifltllllCfiil lllhilll a survey shows tli:it_ 00 per c<‘n‘t of the 980911‘. of III iin-lied ‘States have a. cold tinrr ii yvziir. If tllflh oold moans a cost of‘ only or.‘ dollar‘ (‘In lbss of tizu-‘l

cffltilwnry) cldtirlne gas ivoulvl sav-i us one ‘hundratl iirlllilon ilollurs till-l niiially. i In-c-rrasr-tl effilcicmry and ‘producl hlvdty duo ‘:0 aibisence of (voids can ilvt be csliiinntievl. Neithw is tilt-rt‘, my way IJQ ‘measure what t-Iie ‘in-i crease ‘I‘ii ‘human happiness would ho ‘if we could g‘ ‘t ‘rid of colds iiulickly by a ‘slur-pic, ‘inexpensive mrifhod. Still ninother iin-measur- able effect wvui-ltl be the cutting off- of ‘innumerable illseases which foi- lovv In tlie wake of colds. ‘lhio story ‘cf ehlonine ‘gag us ii (iuira-tivo agency read-a hike i; mm. anoe. ‘Out of one of tJhie most a-w- ful‘ weapons of destruction ever cori- cerived. we ‘now seem likely ui r-volive one of the girea-Jsist bléssiiigii ever klniowin to mun. The Phwflh-t research goes baick to 1918. when ‘the German; were ‘I-IBIIX-‘hlh! i/he Iimnt -II'II‘C tircncIii-s of the Alllcs w.i:‘h ‘gas ‘DIIKI it}... tn“... “hm. (‘plidemdc was raging ‘through- out fiance. It was obscirvwd ‘that whiile tilie roiir uli-ens suffers-d flhfihtfully from influenza, h)“. troops n-t tho front wire ‘practically free from it. The riicilicul officer of one American division, noting tJIIIIB COIIIPIUIOII, linfg.[j[[u|_nd chbmino the ‘t-neaitmetn-t for risplrriitory gm“. "I99 Bmflhfi hlis men. wiitli the w. sult the-t colds mid "tutu" were mm. “Wally reduced. At ailrout hi", mm“. Mme m, "m, ‘film?!’ ‘It W118 observed that t-m- “bYem in VIII/HM; turnlltll! owt war “l5” cimiailllllt! chlorine were ‘im- "mm m ‘UM Fflvlsi-“n of influenza, which took ‘siren terrible toll of tiho mltlltniry camp; lab-Col Edward H. Vedrler, M.D., of the Imny Mexllcal Corps. smite; limit the chlorine treat-them ‘has ei. i-“hed “"98 Ihi ‘the cue of oolde in T5 ‘per cent Ol-Mlith meemwiao In so our neat of hive cases of acute -I.)i‘0fi- i7illillfi.__ivllllid _78 ma“ o; .3911“, M, yngltls. Win mess of whooping- "Wmh. chlorine gas is inlmbsq, q euro cure. T’ ‘PM ‘moment ‘is not hinge... mile. Ait ‘the Army and Navy chimn- Item ‘firom ‘ill to ‘ten ‘patient; no mlmiod simultaneously. Thiay biting "ml"!- heivm- -. or mnluiiiu' wltih tin-em, endremi during who m: