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art Government; that tile-y are m

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Prince County Jul

I might also refer to a few tiling; ins’. are hoppullng m (p; p31,“ County Jail which I iilillk should b: nought b0 the attention of the At. torney Ceileral. My hon. friend, in his speech on tile Draft Address, stated that the ecnditiors in tlle jails were quite different to wildt they used to be in tile time of tile Stew».

lonsor oniovinz til iii jlil; that they are no: _ all tiley, want to cot and drink but 11',» kept, strictly cn prison fare. But let m2 icll you, Mr. Speaker. ,t‘l.~.t if yQu visit the Summcrside find placards or signs givilg iv 1210795 to visitors. and tilese vi are permitted to call and lnrkc

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Allsust 1,027. The first thing he 41¢ was to dismiss nil those road pun-q] men we had and lvllofntcd new men ll ho had no experience at. d], Hg w; them to drag the roads. and it took ‘mm lw° Week! to set started. As a ‘Iffilllt. of course. the roads were “lllmul belns dfflksed sol» two 0i‘ three weeks, or a month, .and at ma: imfi of the year. when the road; get Yum“ Very qulzkly, it meant poor roads all that fall. He wanted to do sommhing great, and he started im- llledlate‘y by formulating a. plan tq procure these great monster ma.- Jlilncs, He. gave all order for, $01,000 worth. and he borrowed $100,000 on the credit of this Province to.buy these machines. 11c did not spend all the money; he still mu $9,000 or it, What has he, dons with the balance? it has gone into current revenue, l believe, to be spent on other works.

lThct. Mr. Speaker, was a my"; v10.

lotion of the statute which author. ized him fo borrow that money for those machines. '

Costly Repairs

Vie. lillli that the repairs to those mélcilincs for the first year amount- Pd l0 313926.91. 'I‘herl the parts, or extras. cost this province $0.337."109; or in all an additional expenditure of $8,264. And, Mr. Speaker. those were new machines! New equipment! and they eosf. that much fhe'_ om your. What will they cost the second your, or the third your, or the fourth your? We know that a new automobile does not cost very much in repairs and ex- tras the first year; in fact. practical- ly nothing. But the second year you

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themselves quite at home provided they are there within certain ilnurs. More than than-Yam toid nu good authority that a, few \\'l"(‘l~IS M10 they had to call plumbers into lllr‘ jail. It appeared that the solver pipe got. clogged and they exnllllned it and could not find the trouble. They had to take up a considerable amount of piping and destroy tile flooring of iha building, and they finally found

What the trouble had been caused by

an empty teddy ofrum that had been put there by one of the inmat- og cf the jail. I do not know whether ill} Attorney General lift‘; ‘received any kncwledge of that, but such are illl facts.

Han. Dr. Grant: H02‘: an empty teddy of ruul?

Arsenzult: Tltnt is what. they called it. Perhncs nly hon. friend might know more cbzut. it than I do. But that is what caused the trouble. so if. appears. l‘ Sneaker tllzt there are bnotleggcrs {gilt in file jlil. The Premier stated that tilcrc were not twenty-one prisoners in the jail. I have enquired and I am informed

could it b:

. on good fiilllivrllf,‘ that tilcre were

__ fenders, he said.

twenty-one in the jrfl at the time that/statement was made by the leader of ille Opposition.

Premier Saunders; ln-chiilliinn. nf- \\'8l‘fi

Mr. Anermuif: Well. iliPIP.

__ twenty-one in the jail. and they were = mostly prohibition offenders.

. only six prohibition offer

Premier Saunders: The‘? lvere

Ml‘. Arscnaulf: There lllfib be a let outside. (Laughter), At rrlyv rate,

. there were tlventy-nnc in jail.

. “will these prosecutions before this Magistrate. or of such crndltions ex-

, 3V8, him too sevcrf}! at present. His J-llention being called to these mat-

Prrmicr Saunderr: That is perfect-

‘ l." right.

g .

u, ,1 shall dcni for a fr": minutes n-vy v i [ilk

"s Iier in his place. and ft will be a

Mr. Arsenaulf: So that after all the administration of justice l.l Prince County has not h."."ll ll‘) to the standard it was when our eond friend lVfr. Stclvnrt. now louder of the Ohpesltion, was Attorney flwlcrui. Vie. never heard of filc"e coulniciu s

Ming in the jail. PTI".‘I\_"§ I have Iuid enough to put the Attorney General on his guard, and be will watch the department more closely M" year. We do not u-lril to crlfl-

ifif-‘l. he will no doubt cndes-vor t: "V6 the conditions remedied.

Public Works Dcprlrfmruf

the D!¥D.’il‘~'ll""fl' cf Public Works I see my good friend the Min-

food chance for me to say a few "Ords to him. It m"v be dnnrerous 0 tickle such n hugs lifinister. but Ishsll seek your proferticn._ Mr. losaker. should rs vet rs (‘INN as hs lid this morning. when fb- nrlvllws ‘l “m”! 11s"- win-s nlrl beer was Milled him. He sremwi to be very ouch annoyed about» that.

lat mo first conqrstaure Mm ca ill 00h in furniture. If you vi-i‘. ill-dill» m will find mt w. big is a replica or Prnridmt. Hoov- dlsir: only it a l-.-.-+~l m c~rry

“I710! Vikht. fbsu-vhwrl.

.I.Gfi' cruise are lie-m of

lbcglll to spend a little money in ga- grage bill, and repairs, and the third lyear quite a lot. In the fourth year gyou spend very much more-In. fact n. good many automobile owners think it advisable and profltableto exchange their old cars after lbs third season and buy new cars. '50 that we can foresee our Mfnflfcr try- ing to exchange these machines in two or three years; calling up Sllut John again for s. frule. (Laughter and applause).

roads so constructed with those ma- chines? It was certainly laughable to see certain portions o! the roads, the way they were turned up, and how deep the drains were made. My hon. friends did not seem to want to drug the roads at all. They were scalldalized if you mentioned it f0 them, “on, 110 we have done away with the drags. We are keeping them out of sigllt. We don't want to see any more of them." But what hap- pened? Pieces of road that were con- slructed by those bury machines ._were impassable for months owing fo jthc fact that they were not drugged ‘after construction and ‘offer every train in keep them from rufc." The [condition of those roads was terrible ‘for quite a few weeks. If you do not ‘believe mo. I am sure the Liberal

Imembers on that side of the House

!\vill substantiate niy remarks. What docs the Patriot say about it? I think those quotations were given to you already The Patrot doe, not believe in the system inaugurated by our

lliilllistler of Public Works: "We sfiii

ibclleve that u few men with horses

‘and shovels and clrlsfl-tlilt is BM-

iute 1fib0;‘—“should keep many places that are notoriously out of repairs in

‘ivory fair condition." 'I'hs.t is what

illie Patriot says. That ls what we

yllad and I believe it is the only sys- itcnl for this Province; to get back to

[Statute labor; get the men in every

fsection cf tlle Province to come out

‘ml tile roads early and fill the holes

hhfili drag the roads andmake them passable, instead of waiting for the

biz; vfilflfililllfs to coins from Charlot- tetcwn. 'l‘llosc machines eanno: trav- cl nt susll s. speed referrcdto by my hon. friend’ from ummclrside; they are slow moving Instruments in the bonds of u slow moving Minister; and the men should coma’ out early and drag those roads a: the proper linle. This was what tbs Patriot sug- gested, and I congratulate the Pat- riot on speaking its mind on the

question. More Liberal Criticism ~

The Liberal organ says further: At present‘ if. is nearly M‘ bod o! It ha, ever been." That is some recom- mmlstion for our good Ministsri

hey go further and say: "What needed u s sort or patrol or upfr- ln; at the bud places without fin ‘do- lny of inking in grcsf sfrofchcs of roads which m nun-Ill! in Mr condition." _

That ls exactly the course whlfil we had adopted, and which the pru- ent Minister should hovs followed from the first.‘

Apparently our Bobd friend at tho head o‘! mu Dsplrilnlni. is not ado- able for this Province. ilo shpuki

nlnintained for at least two will , the beginning of the anon so

ml; the roads thoroughly. it is s wutc or moms to

Q) Hnlster of Pub-

machines u tbs! were

11o firmed power in year without tho patrol gfltk

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And what about the quality of the

dcr the patrol to be established

our roads. open up tbs drains 0' 7- ‘ k “ll-

is so access: , for their mainten- once.

Our lateral roads are no‘. receiving the attention they should receive, and the Pstrlot on May 3i. i928, took a "T053 stand against the Minister on this point. They said: “The approach- es to the city urc'fn s. slate of dis- grace. annoyance and danger." “We have advocated the employment of a. proper road maker. No such [$075011 3s "Inked in_ road making in this Province." “A reasonable exercise of common sense‘ would remedy the whole matter in a very short time. Perhaps flsors is too much red fupc and too little necessl y practical work." Again, in another issue. they say: "It if. not often possible for us to agree with The Guurdlanfl-but they do on this occasion when it says: ‘lThe humpback: raised on some of the mods musf. be levelled off and the whole road sysfcrn must be smoothed, otherwise it will he impossible go horn decent roads."

Yet my hon. friends did not want to use tbs drags. They did not want to remember anything about them. because the system was started by the Conservative party. We saw that the Bell Government had construct- ed roads to the extent of $450,000 and had neglected to inaugurate a system of upkeep, so that most of the money that was borrowed and expended on those roads was being wasted. The Patriot seems to have been aware of this, for after quoting

ditlon of the roads under my hon. friends administration, it said: “This is correct, and it is ho use for any mun. engineer or Mherwlse, to ut- fcmpt f0 treat it lightly. Tho roads no pofffvcly dangerous." Certainly, beacuse if you make the ditches twice as deep-you are going to narrow the road bed considerably. That is what happened in tllisProvlnee last year.

"What is the Trouble?"

‘ We take it that. the Minister, when ho started without authority from this,Legis1atura to get those ma- chines, wlthcut knowing whether the Government would sanction his ac- tion or not, was a hard man i0 han- dlegl-Ie was stubborn, and he was go- lng to have his own way about it. And the Patriot says: "What Is the trouble that the people cannot be listened to in this regard? Although woiuvo’ given advice repeatedly and the Patriot Office has been besieged with complaints. yet the humpback- fng of the roads is persisted ln." And they conclude: "We wrife strongly about. this matter, because the public no insisting upon the trouble being remedied."

Now what has our Minister fo say pbout‘ that? It evidently mode him think, because we see that he is now calling for tenders to construct two or three hundred drags. It is true he lot the drags that we had rot and be carried away and destroyed in the different districts. He thought they would be no good now. with these miraculous machines. and he did away wiih them. Now he is con- structing new cnes. I have net seem a sample of them. ,ond they may be something like the wonderful ma- chines suggested by my hon. friend from the ‘Second District of Prinz- who used to twit us for not getting a machine that would take the whole vrldth of the road. with a big trac- for in front and to or three drags behind. That machine, he told us. would-go at the rate of thirty-five miles an hour. I presume they will have something of this kind in op- eration rmd they will have to close the road h? advance and put up a sign: "Mr. lllciniyres’ machine cem- fng now. Twenty-four heurs’ notice: Kcépoffi’ Then they would open u") and let the traffic come through. tLoughtsr).

Road Gravclllng

I wish to make s few remarks about the g-rsvellng of the roads. That was one of the bi; schemes of the Minister of Public Works. He wanted to borrow $500,000. I believe, but we kept him down. The Opposi- flon, _f. _,i- repeated fights and logical arguments, gof. him down to 0:00.000. And orule 4200.000 author- iud to be borrowed. -he has now used 0150.000; and again the amount spent on growling the roads is only 088,000. ' has tho remaining 007.000 gone? Into current revenue and expended there fn order to allow flsuufo show a small deficit of 01500 Thlffl the way they did fl.

l Tho manner in which that gravel- fnl wt! distributed was very amus- lng toms. I might sum um they "punctuated" the whole road‘ system will: gravel. when you come to a "chins" you have _f'o pause. You kl along Ibo rotd and strike a ___. ‘Mich of navel; you slow the suing very slowly, and ,_n,hy phlim further. m mm

, of ‘gavel; another similar polch s little

mu m‘; lflllllflflhll u.»

l", F]?! being put on the mental stage; it. is true we found ‘wr pgrllgr); {h0g3 “e the .14" hum- W399i‘. lb! lllvl to slow down that tbs ‘sections Jllllllflfi- to each lrs that mv hon. friends cut. ou the

D, .

The Guardian on the dangerous can;

rill: rlvilurrrrlarnwu GUARDIAN

so often. But we find that with all this $150,000 of borrowed money they only gravcllcd twenty-five miles of road. We have in this Province 4,000 miles of road, and at that rate it will be some ‘lime before they are grav- eiled He did twenty-five miles the first year, and I presume he intends to do the same thing next year. bor- rowing another $150,000. At that rate do you know how long if. will fake him fo finish his program of gravel- ling the roads? 160 years. And how much will if. cost? Hon. Dr. Grant: You needn't care. You “oi-rt be here then. Mr. Arscnault: But l am looking to the interests of the future gener- ations. I am not looking forward to what will happen to these genera- tions when I am dead and gone. We don't want ‘lo reap all the fruits of our labor. It will cost my hon. friend $24,000,000 to gravel the roads at; the rate he is going; and I am not mentioning the cost of the machin- ery. 8100.000 worth, he says. is good for ten years; so that during those 160 years he will have to renew that machinery 16 times and spend in all $1,600,000 for machinery. And this does not include all the long distance phone calls to Saint John. tLaugllt- er). Now you see bow ridiculous is that boasted program, that ‘we have now‘gravelled twenty-five miles with borrowed money. We will find that the remote sections of the country will have to pay road tax instead of commuting their taxes. They will have to pay that in cash for the next 160 years if my hon. friend stays in power; and these good men will say: “Never mind, pay the tax and in 159 years from now we will see some gravel on our roads." v

My hon. friend the Premier says he takes a. holiday v every thirty five years. So _in that time before our roads are gravelled, be will have four vacations. (Laughter).

No Pcnsrzncncy

Now, Mr. Speaker, you see how ri- diculous that programme is. And it is being done with borrowed money. You can figure out for yourself where that. gravel will be at the end of those years. It will be sunk; you will never see a trace of it: because there is. after all, no permanency in grav- elllng roads. We ‘cannot afford to continue that extravagance with bor- rowed money. We shall have to act down to a. policy of grovelilng a fclv chains or miles out of ordinary rev- enuc. We sllould stop inlmediately unless we can gravel the roads fronl the money we are now receiving from the increased license fees and fronl gasoline tax. Let me say, Mr. Speaker, that it was the [intention of the Stewart. Government to do this. We made a beginning in gravel- ling roads out of ordinary revenue. It was our intention to apply a large portion of that gasoline tux and tile auto license fees above the amount required to meet our sinking funds for highway purposes. for tile pur- pose of gravelling low lying sections. At the present time the Minister of Public ivorks is receiving a large source of revenue from the automo- bile owners of this Province. as the following figures from the Public Ac- coullis will about:

In i026 we were only getJllg from license fees $71,987, and last year Llley received $99,496; or an increase of some $28,000. Now 523-000 spent in graveiling would make some show- ing, and the pEcple would not be so frightened cf the extravagance of the system, tar-wuss it would be moll- ey that. is paid in every year, and we could afford l0 spend it on the roads whet: we derive ihc revenue.

From gasoline tart we got $172325 in 1923. [inst year they received $35.- 624;'or lm increase cf some $22,029. With the $28,000 received from the auto license fees in excess of what wc'recelved in 1920, this would make a total of 850.000 that they could spend every your on gravclling our roads. Tllig is the way ill which the work should he carried on, and not on borrowed money. I think I have shown, Mr. Speaker. that the pres- ent system is entirely too extrava- gant and too expensive to be coll- tinued in this Province.

Patrol System Needed

Continuing the debaie after recess. Mr. lirscnault said:

I was dealing with the Dcpartlnent of Public Works and showing the fal- lacy of the large programme of the Minister of that department in grav- cliing our roods with borrowed mon- ey. At the rsfc tlllf he ls now going If. would take 100 years 0o do if: It would cost 804.000.1100 ind at "If! end of his term-ff bs remained in office that long-he would have no per- mansnf. works left behind him. “first wo require in fills hovlnce In will! the Stewart Government Inaugurat-

ad; a road patrol sysfcm. It is true that during the first year of pur re- slms this system was in an experi-

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patrol man were perhaps foo large, and the following year we reduced them to sections of about six miles to each patrol man. As you are avrare, Mr. Speaker, owing to the condition of our soil there is no ms.- terial to build roads of any perman- ent nature. It Ls necessary that we should give constant attention to our roads; that after every shower of rain the roads should be thoroughly dragged; every small rut should be filled and tile surface dragged so Lhut at least for a few weeks we may have good. smooth roads to travel over. Now this system was discontinued. to the great disadvantage of our peo- ple. Tlle ear owners are paying suf- ficient money into the treasury to permit theln to have better roads. There is enough revenue collected from the auto license fees and the extra gasoline tax to give our car owners betier service. Their system of patrol, if l can call it such, ls en- tirely wrong. They have assigned to rash of their twenty-five section or mad supervisors— who I suppose they mean should correspond fo our patrol men-MO miles of road to lcok after. That is entirely too much. It." is quite impossible for a super- visor to look after those roads. The most they did last summer was to see that Liberals, and Liberals alone, got on those reads to do the work; and that kept them busy. But we claim that the patrol men should have small sections of five or six miles each that they can look after and devote their time to profitably. They would then be able to perform their work on these roads immediat- ely offer a. spell of rainy weather. when the soil is plastic and dragging would be of great benefit. _ Now we find that outside of ille gravcllin; programme undertaken by the Minister of Public Works there has been great extravagance in the ordinary" yearly expenditures which are made on our roads. For many years the amount expended on those works was very much below the amount. expended by him during i928. We find tilat in that YEaT-JIIZE first full year of his admlnistratiorw he spent tile sum of $i99,9l5 on roads. In i926 tile amount we ex- pended was $122,530. In other words, bis department spent $77,426 more on the roads than we did during our last full year in office. This docs not include his exfrovoganf. programme cl‘ glzlvcliillg wherein he borrowed $150,000 and only spent 583.000 for the purpose for which the statute was passed.

We find also that he spent more nlcney on Pslconwood Hospital than we did in 1026.

DJyle's Bridge

Strange to say. Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Public Works abused us very severely for starting the build- ing of Doyle's Bridge. He charged us v/lth undertaking this big bridge for the purpose of getting Ii few votes- half n dozen. or so, .he stated. Yet we find that in his first year in of- flee he completed that bridge at; very large ekpcndifure and moreover bzfadrnires that beautiful project so murll that he had a photograph fair- cn of it and inserted in his report on Public Works for last year, along with his road machinery and all the grand and noble works that he boasts about.

Neufrage Bridge, another big pro- ject which he construction and which is featured in the Public Works report. was begun. ,it seenls. for the purpome of buying a few vnics yet he lakes great credit, for it. It is somewhat of a eulollgatlon of his personality; and it must be u bi; bridge to correspond in any measure wlill llim.

Grand River Ferry

Tilers are many other things for which I could criticise my hon. friend For instance. the handling of the Oand River ferry last fall. I am in- formed that that ferry, which rend- cred a very useful service in that part of the country. was hauled on to the eel grass on the 3rd of De- cember last to alvsit the high tide of December 12th in order to be hauled cn the shore. The service was dis- rupted a long time before the lee made and was hauled in several days before tile tide was expected. I am informed. also. that tllers were half a dozen or more hungry Liberals along the shore after the ferry was on the eel-grass. looking for the job of brshing the ice though there was no sign of ice in the “harbor.

Again, I think my hon. friend has been extravagant in the supplies of firewood to the Prince County jail. My attention has been called several time; to the appeal-once of a big yard of firewood lying back of the Jsii. the most. of which resembles vlbst we call bean-poles. Perhaps they intend to go info the planting of beans in the vicinity of the jail;

‘ bcrs exhaust their constructive criti-

Wcstsrn road. (Laughter). I think the Minisier should give us some in- formation in regard to that.

Mr. McIntyre Hanging 241k

In case 1 lnlgllt annoy my hon. friend too much I will leave ills de- partment for the present. bllt I may say that I do no think we have been treated fairly on tllis side of the House. As you are aware, Mr. Speak- er, the ltfinlster of Agriculture has been seriously ill, and consequently could not be in the House to give us some information about ills depart- ment, wllich we require and should receive for the purpose of debating the motion now before the House. The Department of Agriculture is a very large one, second only to that of. tile- Department of Public Works. We on this side should hive ilad the opportunity of bearing our Minister speak on those departments. There was certainly no excuse for lll_v llon. friend the Minister of Public Works. He sllculd have given us his plans for the coming year. I do not think that he feels as big. as important, as he did last year when he launched

out Info that program of i road machinery, or be would ‘ have at least have spcken on ills Draft Address and given

us some information. We are here f0 criticise and which hi5'flCll0I\S, and every opportunity should be giv- en v the Opposition of doing this in the Interests of the Province, He has not yet spoken, either on the Draft Ad- dress or in file present debate. Is hei hanging back until it is foo late for any criticism to be made up his re- marks. Does he wish to remain in his seat and let the Opposition meni-

cism, and then get up vrben nobody can correct him. and make as lllRlly mistakes during the cooling year as he has made in the past? He eer-, tainly; could not blame tile Cpposi-l tion “i811, but tile people expect him l to express himself no": so that if’ there is anything wrong the Oppusi-t tion will have tile chance of correct-i ing him. Educational Flcbiscite ‘g

Now I wish to say a few words on the Department of Education, and I trust that you will allow me to go back s. few years to the period when Premier Arsellault introduced a pleb- iscite for the purpose of carrying on education in this Province. That. plebiscite. introduced in 1919, was abused and nlisrcpresclmcd by tile Liberal candidates contesting that election: and where it was opposed and criticised it was defeated; as in Prince County. fer instance, where Premier Bell stated on many plat- forms that if the Arsenault Govern- ment would only prdctinz economy, if they would reduce the large number of useless oiIiciols ill the Provincial Building, and so forth. they would have ample revenue at their disposal to pay the teachers more hiOIi9y.| That plebiscite. which was on a slid- ing scale of from tvro ‘lo four dol- lars. gave the Governlnellt a chance to put on a fax in order to satisfy the teachers‘ demand. It was voted oil-favorably in Kings County, where Mr. Bell and ills silpportcrs did not oppose it; but it was defeated in Queen's and Prince Counties where it was strenuously opposed. If that plebiscite had carried Mr. Speaker. this present administration would not have been visited with this swkumrd situation that arose here lately. So after all, we find that so far as fore- sight ill educational platters is con-

“we want more money; we are not

‘teachers. Hs was told before that

ihc lQl-a-nrs ind education genera-l- ly We find that in 1010 prior to the coming into power of the Mailliasop Government, the teachers were get- ting 0181.000 of tbs grand total that was paid for education in this Pro- vince. The Motbioson Govcmment came in in 10:2. m lsls. afm- m- mier Mathieson had proceeds to Ottawa and had go: sddltiopa‘ ..\-.'_- cnue, the teacher; were getting 0260.- 000 a year; ol- 1o other about $81000 of an increase. The Bell, Gov- ernment cams in in' 1019 and they expended on edu- cation $259,000. ‘file Stewart Gov- ernment, in 1925. increuscd that amount to $452,000. We find also that the teachers were batter satiefi- ' "~- der the Stewart Governmsn. ..ld‘ there was abetter attendance. For instance prior to 1010. the average attendance was only 11,000 pupils a year. During the Mathieson Govern- ment it increased somewhat. despite the fact that it. was War-time, and tile older brothers being called sway the younger children had to stoy home to do the farm work. There- fore we did not have the same chance to make s. sbovring in those yllfil nevertheless the average enrollment was increased.

We find, under tho-Bell Govern- ment, when everything was normal again. that the enrollment was low- er than during the Mathieson re- gime. It increased again under tile Stewart Government to 11.424, or an average attendance of 12,000 instead of 10,000 as under the Bell sdminip- trstion, and the avenge per cont-In of attendance for each pupil w» 70.3 ss against 63.3 during the Bell regime. . '

Teachers Satisfied Under Stewart Government

Our teachers, I repeat, were satis- fied under the Stewart Government. They paid more attention to their schools and the pupils liked than better. The condition gsnersily~in the educational department was bad under the "Bell ‘Government; and ‘history seems to bs-rcpcsting itself with respect to Liberal administra- tions. for what happened this year? The teachers went ‘to the Saunders Government with a definite 1'90"”?!-

sufficiently paid. We give "you twelve month; to get this matter fixed up and get us an increase in salaries." They came back again this your. and tile -Premler did not have the money. but he told them he us; try- lng to get increased subsidy from Ottawa, and when he secured that he would give the teachers first con- sideration. We have asked him to table the correspondence in connec- tion wi.l'l this matter. but the re- ply lle gave us was that “it wasnot ir. the public interest" for the DB0- pie to know. The teachers did not take that excuse, and when he could_ not produce anything on paper to show that he was trying to get that money they gave him the ultimatum that they were going to strike OX1 Tuesday after Easter.

Even in the Speech from the Throne the Premier announced that. he could not do anything for the

they wanted more moneynand when they pressed hirn it is rumored that he told them to go 0o M)‘. Stewart. and see what he could do for them- a fine way to try to zit the goodwill of our teachers, by turning tbcm down fiat and telling them to go and see the leader of the Opposition! These teachers felt that if the Stew-

eerned. the Conservatives, lit" many years back. have been the leaders. Tlley have been the ones who could study and appreciate the diffiruldcs in that department. and who could solve the problem of teachers‘ salar- ‘cs when solving was required.

We remember that. a. few years ago when Premier Bell came into office. he was faced with the same sizuation a; my hon. friends were faced with this year. The teachers were ellllnor- ing for more money. They knew that Mr. Bell was responsible for having this plebiscite defeated. and they canle buck and said: "We shall have to get more money- or we rlllllf‘ And what did he do? He paid them more money, but he did so by Increasing the taxes on the people. lie did not, as he promised. go to Ottawa to pre- sent our claims and receive assist- ance. He chose the more easy course of increasing the taxes. Iic increas- ed the land und income taxes. put on a poll tax. and in that way'col- lccted from the pockets cf the peo- ple of this province an additional amount of 0170.00 a year. Witll this amount he was able to pay the Leach- ers more money; but can we give the Liberal administration of those days any credit for solving tile education- sl question of the time? I claim, Mr. Speaker. that. we cannot.

Conservative Increase for Education

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Conservative Governments towards

srt Government: had been returned to power we could ‘haveo given them ,mnre money with the revenues at lfllli’ disposal, by practicing economy land not embarking m these big lgravelling programmes, by reforming {the law of this Province and getting ‘the revenues that were available ‘from the Prohibition commission- land which this Government could 'li0Ve taken had they wisned to do :50. But no! not one dollar from this isnurcc would these genflemfn sc- irept. "Rather have the teachers dis- §satisfied~ratber close the scbooLs al- ‘tngeiller-Ahan i-lkc onsdoilsr from that Conlmissionl We will feed the ioifenders in our jails; we will" give ithem more groceries than they ever [got before; we will supply thorn with meat, and lots of it, oven on Fridays; ,bu‘.. we dsre not touch one cent of that money which ha; been derived from the sale of liquor." And yet their Liberal friends of. Oftnws are deriving millions of revenue from that ‘source and expending If, and properly so. for tho. bonslpofjbe country. ‘ The ‘illreufcned lfrlks

friends were gutting _ _ from the collection ecu-lb some ‘us;

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The teachers saw‘ that myhoh. 010.000 more

ihlt they were cell-n; sumo in Gasoline tax; that they were letting incl-assert revenue in fool owing to the largo-number or. our: purchased in this Province: and ls it show what ha; been the attitude of any wonder they, worc- dissltflid

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This threatened strike, 4', an fact first they had to goon even for one day. has bad a bad effect, on the children of generation, if not of the nest g stion u rail. 1n is easy for us to our eyes and think that childl- not notice these things. ‘Pilaf; from being the case. Those chi are at the impressionable age c incidents of that kind make a lznpressiom- Imagine them retu

to school and bearing that the s 0' has been closed because the tea b13018 not paid. They go llome. some of them bear their parent posing the teachers. some of favoring them. The child, who is? "W" "v love and honor hLs tea h .~‘t “Cling "to enter his ll ‘ 2nd t.. teacher, who is to be a mentor and an exnmn the ellild- loses his influence. m‘ way an incalculable wrong has done lo, the pupils, and if. will - years for that wrong 1o be rlju _ And you gentlemen are rsspo 1e (Applause). " ' The idea ofgoing to your dist calling meetings and giving s. n as you would an auction sale 1m pres! I have in lny mind oil-suit.

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notice written by one of the me from the Second District of and I shall read it to you:

TO THE ELECTORS OF

2ND DISTRICT OF PRINCE’; At the coming se of the fslsture. ,whi:h ope

ers for increased salaries must; e f considered and dealt with ill so é

will cost the tax payers $78000. one of your representatives I to know what your desire is in’ gard to this matter. Shall we g the demand and increase the es to that amount? Let me k‘ w your wishes by letter or peiltionr’ fl ' Our present laud tax amounts‘ itofi ' $11,000." i; » Or in other words-die dldn't~,llayl it; he" is l very astute nlanwbuffhefi‘ lsff. the people to draw their own fin ferencc that if they gave the tooth ers their increase it would ' doubling the land taxes on everyi mer. That is what he meant than beliuvc. _ L, Mr. W. H. Dennis: Is that si d?» Mr. Arsenault: That is signed by? William n. Dennis! (Laughtcrxil It simply means this: "Don't u me instructions to Increase their-rial cries, because you will have to twice as much as you are now ‘flay ing." What about other sourced 0' revenue? The gasoline fax. the tau fomoblie fees, the road fax that ooy‘ are new collecting? What about‘ ‘uc ccsslon duties that have add proof deal of revenue in the. ro vlnce this year‘! Not a word"aboul;; that, or about this $30,000 that yo are giving towards a Sanatcrium‘. , Hon. Dr. Grant: Why didn't yo increase their salaries? q Mr. Alsenault: We were not fun-f ning this show. _ ' lion. Dr. Grant: You ran-if; fo . four years. ' Mr. Arsensulf: We ran it for¥otuf years, and during that time qthé?‘ teachers were teaching. (Appl e I gave a statement showing th a tendanco during our term of o ices) and if you were listening and dbuldl l. understand it you should know h we ran It to tile satisfaction of that grate payers. We did not give out c a statement as this, that if the rebel“; ers asked us for u raise u-c wbuld- ._ double their "faxes. (Applauscl. l y. It is rumored. too. i.llat tile {mil ' member from Bedcqllc railed a llfrzet-l; ing at which only," a few lillfll cdf and he was fold. l lmdezxstnlld. t‘ Bf; back to the Legislature and HFQhlI‘, _ own judgment. That. vrns wllatg elected him for. So my lloll. f didn't get very much encourage! there, and Iam proud of thafif the sake of the dlskrict. l Mr. Horace Wright: It shéwet’ they had confidence in their wire-joy sentative. . ,l _ Mr. Arse-mull: I think tllcyioltll, him: “What did we gel. a rr-nresqlf five for. if you have fo come an us what to do. We might, as scnd u grslnnplione And of course be airlift like computed to u grumaphmve rein lo be came back. lLaughter Blidifll)‘, plnusc).