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Tituasiuv. February 19, 1852. AFTERNOON Sl'l"l‘ING.

Fislt Bounties.-—'l‘he llou. the Colonial Secretary presented

I Petition from Martin Collins, ofSt. etcr's, fisherman, set- ting forth, " That in the suntrner and fall season of the past year he prosecu the Mackerel Fishery on the Northern coast of the Island, having cleared at the Customs for the pur- pose on or about the llili July: That his vessel ofeiglity ions, which was built for the purpose, was launched, on or about

the 95th day of April, but. being unable to rocnrc the neces- sary general supplies here. be had proceed to Boston to pro- cure them; and that though every exertion had been used, by him. to expedite his return to the Island, he was not able to

aeaern tab it, until the time was passed, ivhen, according to the Act. he should have commenced his voyage, in orrler to

have a legit right to the bounty: Tlitit he had, nevertheless,

imrttediately commenced a fishing voyage-. and continued

‘ "actively engaged therein for a period of four months: 'l‘hat

although he is sensible he is not in a position tosay that he has literally complied with the terms of the Act for the Encourage- meat of the Fisheries, he trusts the House, having a regard to the facts. will consider that he has siibstziutially conformed to the spirit and essence of its provisions, and see fit to extend to him, the benefits contemplated to be conferred on the labour and enterprise of persons, who should engage in the fisheries, after the passing ofthe said Act.”

he statement made in the Petition, is srrpportcd by an alli- davit of the Pt-titioircr.

The Hon. Mr. Colcs presented two Petitions of a similar nature; one front John McLeod, senior, and John Mcl.eod, junior, of New London; accompanied by a certificate of the declaration of the Petitioners. to the effect, that their vessel was fully equipped, insntied, arirl victualled, and that they had

rosecutcd their voyage without deviation by freiglrtirig, and that they had caught on the said voyage, about one hundred quitttals of Codtish, and ten barrels of l\lttt:liet'el; a second t'roiii Donald Morrison, of New London, merchant, setting forth, that on tho eigth day of July last, the Petitioner fitted out a vessel expressly for the Cod ahd Mackerel fisheries, agreeably to Collector McNutt‘s fishing pass hereunto attached: That he remained on the fishing ground till the tweirty-first day of October, when she came iiiio port and entered the cargo of fish, consisting in part of I25} barrels of mackerel. which were cleared for Halifax, with 00 qnintals of Codfisli, according to the Naval 0lliccr's certificate attached: That his vessrtl would have been on the fishing ground cit the date prescribed by the Statute, but salt. barrels, &c.. could not be obtained in New London, and had to be procured from Halifax, which occasioucd the delay; That he is ofopioiott that ho had complied with the essentials and spirit of the Act, brit. although his vessel was on the fishing ground for three and a linlf months, as the dates were not identical witli the provisions of the Act, the Governor in Council declined granting a warrant for the ainorint of Bonn- ties to which he considers himself entitled. His remarks, it would be observed, were directed only against the claim t'ur tonnage bounty: the requisite uantity of fish liaviug been caught by him, the Petitioner (illr. Morrison) was entitled to the Bounty. Mir. MtmNEY. He would oppose the Petition, on the ground. that having made a law, they were bound to carry it out. 'l‘h'.:re were nrany petitions of the same kind; but the House could not entertain them without setting aside the l'.iiv. It had, heretofore, been the practice for parties to apply to the House for grants; and, if they had a friend or two in it, they would drum up recruits, and carry the day. Was that fair legislation? It was not. When they passed It law, he would wish it to be carried out. It was his duty, as it r0[it‘o.'scnt:ttive til" the people, to know no mart who prrtitioiicd the Mouse, unless his applicatirm was lotltttlerl in justice. on. the Colonial Secretary liaviug moved for the appointment of a Coininittcc to wlroin should be rcfi-rrcd all such Petitions, that tlie_v might report thereon to the llouse. a short discussion ensued, touching ilro propriety of the llousr.-‘s entertaining any Petitions oftlic kind. lion. Mir. Port: was decidedly of opinion, that it would be best to shut the door at once against the ndniissioii ol'an_v such demands. The (Jovernrncrit. said the lion. member, had spared no pains to enquire fully into the nature ofthe claims for bounty which had been preferred to them, and they litid rilluwed it in every case in which it seemed to be fairly due. They had no desire to repudiate fair claims. But, for himself, he would protest against the reception of such Petitions, as those which had just been read. Unless they meant to set aside the Law altogether. how could they consent to entertain Petitions for bounty, when the Petitioners themselves declared they had not so complied with the provisions of the Law, as to be legally entitled to what they petitioned for. lie sincerely wished well to the fisheries. and tvas willing to grv all reasonable and just lengths for their encouragement; brit vvhenthe Legislature had just passed a Law in which rules were laid down for the guidance of those who embarked in them, with a view to obtaining the bounty provided by that Law, it vvasimperative, not only upon the Government. but the House, to grant no bountiea, save to those who had complied with the rules so laid down. Ifthose who lind not cornplied with these rules, were to have the bounty avvarded to them. it would create much dissatisfaction amongst those who had obtained it only through their observance of the Law. The bounty ought to be zrllotvcd only in such cases as it could be awarrlctl by a fair llllt‘l’plL‘la- tion of the law. The amount of botinty already given was nearly equal to the value of all the fish that had been taken; and, where hundreds had been required. on account of the last season. thousands would be required for the next. But, should such Petitions as tliuse which had just been presented, be entertained, they might, next year. expect to have presented so large it number ofsirnilai ones, that were they even redirect the Public Treasury should be thrown open to the Petitioners without reserve, it would be iusuflicicnt to satisfy them. Willi respect to Colliiis, the lion. member observed, that although, according to his own showing, he had no eloirns to the tonnage bounty. and ought not to receive it; his title to the premium on his catch had been allowc

The object of the House, in passing the Bill, had been the proriiotion ofthe general good, by tho ciir-ourugr-mcirt of our fisheries; but that object would be lost sight of, should they allow bouiitics or premiums to any who were not legally cu- tirled to them, by liaviug complied with all the provisions of the Act. The ltottntics camc oiitoftlic pockets of the farmers; and they could receive nothing in retrirn. unless the fisheries should be both extensively and successfully prosr.-cured: and, to that end. tlioy who purpnsrsd to engage in them should be made positively to understand that their claim to the botirtty, and chance ofsuccess it the business, would depend altogether upon their entering upon it, and faithfully prosecuting it accord- ing~to the law.

Ma. LAllll't. lfsuch Petitions were to meet with the favor- able coiisideration of the ouse. the might as well say at orico that all who applied for the botiiity sliuitld receive it.

Mr. Pai.atr:it. They had passed a law for the encourage- ment ofthe Fisheries, _and that law_clear|y pointed out, to all who wished to entitle themselves t6 the bounty provided by it, when they were to commence their fishing voyage, how they were to be rovided for it, and how long they were to prosc- eiite it. as that law to be observed, or was it not? if it I'll. it 3'38 Intel] Vary improper that either the Government or individuals should be allowed to pret'er Petitions. to that

use, for the sllovranes ofthe bounty to those who had failed to entitle themselves to it by a compliance with the law. on. Mr. Wursrrirr-oiv replied to the observations of the lion. sad lssrnrd member of Charlottetown, that hon. members frequently felt it to be their duty to present Petitions,altlvougli they were not prcpsrcd to support the prayers of them. It '00 llll °Pl|ll°|I. with respect to such Petitions for the tonnage bounty as he expected tv re the House, that some of the Petitioners. even although they had not been able to comply with the strict letter of the law. were yet fairl en- titled to the bounty, whilst others of them had no ‘on efaints srlistsvsr to it: and the best way ofdcaling with r em all, he thougltl. would be to refer them to the consideration of s Com- mittee, to be reported upon according to their difierent merits. It vvosld surely be a better way than for the House to waste tlisir time in I discussion concerning the tactile of every such sotul is support of Colliris‘s Petition, but also in favor or all _ . lived out vcrssla, ssprescvrbed by the Act, with thdsssfids istaotiss of prsssestiog tbs fisheries. and who ital astaslly does so for the period specified by the law, al- bsd not been sblstoelssr outsti the spfilntad iuaistsined tlistthe e insf vast

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fishermsn who understood his business, observed Mr. Davies, and he lisd gone to Boston to fit out in the note way as the American fishermen. and the success which had attended his prosecution ofilie vn_vagc. was a proof that all thatwas wanted

_ to secure the "prosperity of our fisheries was that they should

be prosecuted in suitable vessels. properly fitted not, b inert acquainted with the business. r. Tliornton olisi.-rv that the bounty ofa few shillings per ion was as it matter of mere tiioonsiiine compar with the benefit conferred upon the country by the prosecution of the fisheries. The law was s new one, and, for the first year. they ought not to be too rig- orous tii the interpretation of it. It had not been promulgated in sullicient time to afford all a f:iir chance of complying vviili the very letter of it. They had not always adhered to the literal interpretation of such laws, as witness that for the en- couragement ofthu st-til fishvry. as also ilrat to encoursg ' the ex port trade in (‘odfish to the West Indies; and it won unwise and unjust to do so iiotv. iftbc really wished to err- courage the fisheries, as they all professcil they did. _

ivlr. Ci..tirii believed that some who ho exactly complied with the law, might have very strong claims; but where parties had fitted out their vessels with it double intention of first se- curing frcights and then trying the fishing, they could have none. lfihe House, this Session, euterininr-d the Petitioiis of parties who were not legally cntitled to the btiuntyntliey would, next year. be in a manner lloodctl by sucliapplications. He would vote against such Petitions altogether.

Ilon. Mr. Cot.tcs. Tlrcre was a difference between not complying with the very letter ofthe law, and an actual vio- lation ofthe law. Parties who had ubtaiiied fishing passes, whose vessels were properly equi pod and manned, who had actually cleared out before the Utliccrs had received their in- structiuus under the new law. air vilio i-.nl prosecuted their fishing voyages fur the time prescribed, were, in his opinion entitled to favorable criirsiderutioii. But the case was differ- ent with thnsc vtlro li:id taken freight, uudcr pretciice of pro- curing supplies either in the l'nited States or at Halifax, and who had not comriieucctl the prosecution uftbcir fishing voy- ages, iiutil a fortriiglrt ora iuoriili aftertlre appointed day. By sticli delay. the Island was a loser, ns respected the quantity of fish taken by them. wliicli could not be so great as iftlrcy had coinrncuced at the appointed time, and continued fishing during the prescribed period. lftho bounty should now be granted to such parties as had not coniincuccd fishing uiittl ti niontli rtfti-r the appointed time, the iitiiiiber of such irregular claimants would be greatly increased next year. 'l'hcy must convince them that to succeed tlicy niusi be out in time. The Act has been passed for three years, and they who were not prepared in time last year. and who have consequently missed the bounty, will most likely take care to secure it by tiinely preparation and action in each ofthe next two years. He would not nlijr-ct to the appointment ofa tfomritittee bv whose

' ' ' ofthe 1' ‘ ' ‘their report concerningthcm, the House miglitbc informed \\‘lll('lI were, air which were not, entitled to their f-avorable consirlcrrition.

Mr. Mr~.\'i-:ii.r. said, when the llill I'm the Encouragcinent ofthe Cod and Mackerel Fisheries was before the louse last year, he opposed it, because he tlroirglit the bounty policy a bad one. The llill. however, passed into a taw; and. that being the case, parties, both within and out of that House, should be governed by it; liui, to entertain Petitions for the tonnage bounty. from llItll\'ltl|lt|lS who were not legally en- titled to it, would be for the House itsclfto set aside the law.

Mr. l*‘rr.\sr:ii would not object to the appointment ofa Crim- niittcc, lnit he would object to the prayer of(.‘ollins's l’c'itiott,

bccziusc his not having coiniiicnccrl his fishing voyage at the appointed time, nus owing to his having gone it trading; and he would oppose the allotvauce ofthu boituty to arty who a - plied for it uudnr similar circumstances. Mr. You said, if they tvcre to entertain the Petitions ofsuch parties as had not cornrticnr-ed their voyages until a fortnight. three vreclts, or a muntlr after the tirneappoiutcd, it iuiglit appear that they were in some measure pursuing air cxzinrplc sci forth in the Script- ures, by admitting parties at the irintli and tenth liners; but it did not seem to him .'i right way ofdoing business.

The question was their putt on the lion. l\lr. \Varbirrton°s motion, and the saint: having been agreed to,—IIon. Mr. \\'ar- hrirtou, Mr. 'l'horuton. Mr. Montgoincry. llon. l\lr. Jasdine,

d Mr. Benton were appointed a Cornmittee accordinglfi

The llill for the Incorporation of the Sons of Tempsgsrtee was read a second time, coniiriittcd, and reported agreed to.

‘- Al"'l‘lr'iR.\'0ON SlTTlNG. l HOUSE IN CU.\l.\ll'l"l'l~Ili Oi" SUPPLY. ’ Roar) Saitvicii. .. llon. Mr. \VllF.l.AN submitted the follotving Resolutiott.;ttnd in doing so, he observed, tlnrt tlu-rc was still due on Notes o llrrnd, given to Rrvnd (.‘uitrini.<sioners for seed grain, &c.. in the years ‘-17, .'-IS, and '49 it very large sum, amounting he believed, to £3000 or £4000; for the recovery of which, there. appeared to be no means but the acct-prance oftt ork 0lI roads rind bridges, by tvliicli amount, or at least. by so much of it us could he tirade available, it wits proposed the specified grant for the road-service, should be increas- ed.

R('=ult‘€rl. 'l'|nit the sum of Two tliousaiirl Five ltitndrcd pounds be granted for the Service of the Iloadri and \\’liarfs for the present _\car, in nrlditiori to the ainnitnts which may he l(‘:tllZt'tl in labour on the several l’roini.-in-ry Notes due to the Govcriiiiiciit by destitute scttlcrs for seed grain, &c.

llou. Mr. COl.l".S. lle prcsuirinrl, the lionorzrblo member who had rttibniitted tho llesolutiou, cont;-riipltitcrl nu tidditiririnl grant of £l0‘tl for Clizirloltctottn lluytilty. llc tvris truly surprised M. the large iiiiiount i-till due for seed groin and trienl, lllltl ho was of opi- ninn. that the best way of recovering it, would be to trike it in work upon roads and bridges, on liberal terms; say at 5s. it dziv, or Olltcrttlzle on contracts There were notv thirty-one Road Crviii- iiiissirtiicrii, niiil M itli respect to tlieseiiiitsttiriditi, debts, he thought, the best plan vioulrl be to give to each C0lI|lIIl§§lt|nt‘f, till the ‘INI- settlcd Notes oflliriid. given by iudrvirlunlii in his tllr-ll'lCl. or neigh- boiirlioud, vtitli iruitructious to take work in payrncnt of them on libr-ral terms. ’l'bcre was, he believed, an inclinrition on the part ofthe pcnplolo pity; but it was utterly impossible, as respected the majority, to raise money for the purpose; however, should they bcnllowetl to give work in payment us he proposed, the princi til port of the aiiruniit due, vvould,hs thought, he recovr-.rct.l. It iriig t, It ' 90010: ii’: til-jt-ctcd to his proposal, that tiny tvork so taken in payment would be very opt to be sliglitod, but he would rciiiind such honorable tneniberii, that the Coiuiirirutioiieis were not irovv as formerly reinunernted by it ctiiniriit-ion of 5 er cent. on the amount cxpen ed, but were proprerly paid for their services. ‘or- nieily on it contract, any of £20, vihicli required It week for its completion, l'| Conrriiissioiier received no more than 20s., although he spent nearly it whole week in lDpt!flltlt.‘Iltlll'|g.lll8 vvoilt. ' ‘ effect ofthe new system would be. to secure a f.riilrl'ril performance of labour and contracts. He would propose, that tlis whole ninount ofthe grant for the lload Service. should be £2750, over and above all that might be recovered on the Notes of Hand.

lllr. Wl(il|'l‘.\lAN, The sum proposed by the Resolution, was entirely too little. Much more was required for the internal irri- proverncntri ofihc country. As to looking for the realization of any thing of coriscquciice on the Notes of Hand, either in the shape of Money or of Labour. it-ithont litigation; the lion. Mr. Coles. must know as well as hirnself, that it would be useless. At the hciit, iii any tvny, the Notes of lliind would be found to be next to vulueless. The grant for the Road Service ought to he £4000 at the

east. ‘

llon. Mr. PUPE ivr.-rintriincrl. that the roads gcnerally were in ve_ry good order. and that the House could, with propriety , econo- mrse with respect to that service. The ordinary grnnt—oii an ave- "“!° "50" -€3°"° I )'¢-'||’—wou|d. he was persuaded. be found quite

a clear. With respect to the Notes of Hand, an idea ha it believed, ot abroiid, that the amount due on them would never be called or; but if orders should be given for its collection, he Wt‘! opinion, a very considerable sum would be received. The whole amount due. he thought. might be about £4000 or £5000; and ifthe list were looked over, it would be found, that many coald atford to y.

Hon. . r. WHELAN. The amount proposed was a ver liberal one-—£2b00 in cash, besides what could be recovered on the Men of Hand. Should the amount recovered on the Notes of Hand amount to only .£Ill00—-a fourth or fifth of the amount dse——thcy vvou_ld have 13600. Under all circumstances. tlis proposed sum was as liberal as any honorable member could reasonably desire.

I r DOUBE. The Notes of Hand '

worth the trouble of looking after. And did not lnrnes? V hat cos he more absurd than to propose sn lttld Ml. W50‘ 0' I" Midi. it was admitted, that the poverty of I s poop u gssmlly was so great, that it would be an extreme or folly to look to them for the payment onus nor; of }{.,,,| ‘high they vs krsssdc‘iini‘.lsa.. is ‘I1, '48. '40! The grant pro posed was far from sslclent : than was esssidsnu. any 1! as sesssat ofoontr-asrs psrfovstad sa Wbsrtb and Drug.“ ma ;::h|hdststatslsbsIr had but: sapsadsd as is. ma. ha

Mr. l‘.‘\l.5lER. He had expected. that now Ilespoiisibls Go- vernrnant was estalvliultod, the inonibers of our local .\dininistra_- lion would. in all their proceedings, copy the practice of Great Ilri- r.-rin; for the country had long been assured. that that would be the case. when once the llespoiiaibla System should he concedi-tl to the Colony. He had therefore. expected, that at the opening of the Cornurittss of Supply. the Chancellor of the Exchequer would have stood up in his place, and have stated. what amount of Ile- venue was required for the coiiteinplatcd expenditure of the year. and what arnotrnt oftuxes would ave to be vs . to locum tlttt requisite revenue. Ila lind expected, that he (the Chancellor of the Exclicquer) would have shown the Corrrinittee how much could be misc fioiii suclirind such sources of revenue. and have given good reason it by no more could be realized. lmfurs they proposed such a very inadequate sum for llonds and llritlgcl. II llltll Itllllled in the Resolution just rend. Before the reign of Responsibility comrnencsrl, the “ Liberals " could never raise the Road Service vote high enough for their lilting; their cry Will lllflflv "oh. It’! not enough—it's the People's niou.?. and the only way they get any benefit by it, let it be incvetts ,"—aiiclt WI! lllfltf cry. Wllttfl the corintry was deepl in debt and the Revsn|IG_ fflllfll 0ll'—fl|1d financial prospects bs ; but now. liberality and Liberals scorned to be quite difi'erent in their signification. Should 00 llfsfil’ lltflollfll be granted, than that proposed by the Resolution, Ill! 0|’! |l|f0tJ5lI- out the country would be, that it wits not enough- '1' 0 money granted for the Road Service, was all that returned l0 ")0 P¢°Pl3 out of the taxes paid bv them; the amount in the ROI‘-l||l|0l| lint-l9|' present prospects as painted by the Liberals. should 00 tl0l|lIl¢Il- “van when the revenue was small, it very liberal grunt Will tIlWI,VI mode for the Road Service; and now when they werf Wltl by “fit! of s flourish, that the Colony was in is state of financlttl lifttlttfifllyi its credit good, and its revenue increasing. were the Pl'‘‘{Pl° 10 50 put off with the paltry aunt of £2700 I'or Roads and Broil“!-’ I‘ was not enough, and the people would not be satisfied Wtlll ||- ll was known too, and admitted by all, that the Statute 1-itli!-‘lit’ Sys- tem did not work well. It was true. there were more ll0ntl_Corn- misrlionera than formerlv; but there was no int rovemflll III Ill! workiir of the svsteni;'the labour was. every w etc, more 0!’ lei! sligltletfot‘ evaded. The people. themselves, saw tlnit it Wollltl lie nitich better. and operate more equally and justly. even slwtlltl “'0 whole nniount annually required for the Road Service. l-‘° "tile" out ofthe Revenue. than that the service should be provided for by it direct lnlvour llll. falling so ineqttitably as it now does on the Pot": and he expected, that unless some miraculous iniprovenient should take place in the working of the present system, the Legis- lature would soon be driven to confess, that it would be much bet- ter to provide for the whole ofthat Service out of the general Re- venue. than partly by grants and partly by labour. its at present, even if to meet it, they should be obliged to increase the rid r-alorem duty. The poor man, were this the case, wool pay no' more than the anrount of the indirect tax included in what he paid on ' lirnitetl expenditure. for tho dutinbla articles consumed by him; and the rich itinn who might consume to the ttiitount of £-l00 or £500 ' Y0": ofsuch articles, would be compelled to contribute in pro- portion tn the amount of his consumption. to long. WSW". 1'' the llottse should not feel disposed to adopt that system. the only course lefi thetn to approach tovvirvds it would he, to grant a large sum not of the revenue, whether on the increase or not. Ft": until it should be demonstrated to the Committee. ll! 30"” Mic“- lnliun from Government members, what the revenue and vvlint the expenditure of the year were cirpected to be, and that a large sum could notbegranted, he would vote for an iurrense; and i t country was really as flourishing as they were told it WM. I suiii, ver iiitich liirger than that proposed. iiiight stitel be allowed. ion. Mr. WA RBURTON. lle disagree altoflfllher with what lisd fallen from the lion. member for Charlottetown, vi ho seemed to desire that a large amount should he irnnaally grant- crl and expended ripon the roads, whether required for the re- pairs of them or not. ‘ ‘