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\~ ~ in” thc kbt Conditions M“ Maritime!- has been made inrthe Ifizzhttloczflllfllllmlfl in the notgb- I i provinces and lit aililellfs minis ls a matter which has “lat (om; g great deal of am, and some very content ous _' “ion to,» The Lactic-q of thc cggigon told us that conditions 11h; Maritime Pr-ovaiceri today lfiplitino a6 the)’ always WW9‘ ‘_ SAiUN-IIERS: so rhr as our ' are concerned. ' H v M}; MYERS; I inicrred m what be said that our ollllfll" nities.‘ in these Provinces, along g line of niurkcts ur e-iili l1! I d_ “my were in previous h, . y hon. iritllll. I am sorry 5 "Qmust be absolutely iillllll“ ! . he fachg in make such an sertion. Cunlllllllllfl lll lWlFlllmC ovlnccs are not nearly so guild may w”... some years aso- l d occasion to illl-y ll Vlllll l° NW“ otla during the past Slllllnlil‘. anil h, when yep ge among tho DW- e themselves their yo“ Bel “ll pprtpnity oi finding out iiiiévfilgle thins ,aa_ they really are. u“ 8...: 1 yglterl one village ( ova Scotia last summer) where . ly told me that a few years IE0 ey had eleven hundred lwlllllfb- ti last summer illl" Wm 1"“? ree hundred llWPl-f? "legging: at had eons lo_w°lll°l'“ E thg United States. What is ml that village. l» lllmllllle- l“ “quill” u of s number oi towns and vili- es throughout Novn Scotla. _ d public speakers have advance rious causes and ransom ll" illl" ndiltlon. i think 1 would be sir t? . saying that among lllll Wver?‘ liilons eXlITulBllll~ llY _ f] lterem . blic men oi tiie Mfllwllmilpgi“: ncca. nine out oi evcry l9" l‘ .

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. h, but ,1 was just wondering If i! tr not thc low freight rates "lit ll Q mggter, Take trade conditions ith Nova Scotia at the‘ preseilit [mph A few ypars ago our catt e euiei-soh the island. if they uutud a market for their bet-i, out it to Trenton, New Glasgow- urmouth, Pictou and other NOV" -tlan towns. Today Wlllll lllBY M‘ cmpt to get irito that marketvavilil m“. be“ they ere met by ‘file rn beef that can be lllll l‘; on“ ooks in the stalls iii Nova. f“! l ,,,- gbven or Chlhlrfltfiiid ‘a ‘flour {M ouder ll’ It is hit-ill ""5" l: i low rates that id illl! m“ “'- “ure. What is true r-i bsel l’ uiiy true oi huiiter and 8885- 'nii tlfllltkhillly true of Itorsckup: ho isiuitu ad wcli as l" , 4' ' cotila. Not only has thc marketing no of this iiiduslrv bwll- ll“-*""’.l" u b,“ we Why bructllllg and Iran.- m‘ or hgrggg on the island invt en "dcsttrilyflil 'l1el'°"ll rolmr llhln the last few dlly-‘l l-wll ‘will; 2' g5 o; western horsra hrr ve i. were sold ln _’ q. my hm; friend kiiow that.

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imt is the remedy? l llllnl‘ l ow what it i8. lllll ll- "llly m“ 2° ceptabic. It seems to mc that t ° ma,” ym- ghe present condition “u”; in ghg Maritime Provin. c licc In the industrial life 0f cu Provinces. Wlllllll "4' "ll

"m". "a hggn dcutroycd- A a“; ere-ago the industrial towns ilia eW_ Brunswick and Nova Scot uued with their mines gind fac- rlep. What is the inattcr. We K0 t a great deal oi trouble, talkinK bout 1m ration and wundcrlllu M; 51,, 5 we can take. To my iusthe bee: immigrants that we n have on the island or the Mari- m9 Provinces are the boys llllll iris that we raise here. ilut you now the industrial conditions l! q ‘preucni time arc Ivcil "l"

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lcturcd outside of those Provin- brcught down from Western g-Iroight rain aaIlnl-m‘ emtne United States. We MW ut ouruivcu In this poaitlonftblt shad of being amlnduelrll- 99°- Ie we are completely depflnflfll! n the Central and Western Pro- ne”, and“ upon the United Stated pcrtntionm.

lt was not always thus. Previous confederation we bad a busy in- ‘sirial liie in the Maritime Pm- ‘lices that provided labour and markets for the produce of r farmers. We arc not golds llllb discussion oi the merits oi Con- deration. but l will venture illl! adoption that we have lull aflillfl m]; through confederation that n only lie t gained by co-cpora-

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‘t-on. We want cc-opsration bc- tween ‘Jic iii-sinus men of the Maritime Provinces. between thou who may be in the posi- t.on oi manufacturers and those whose huclnese it ls.to hand out ‘the manufactured goods to the coll- sumcr. We often hear the cry.-lt la dlnncd lnte our can Mun Q|1¢I\|'h|‘—“BUv AT HOME." I would very much rather sec a cam [Imgn lo MANUFACTURE AT IHOME. To our business men I will ,make this assertion that we far- lmcrs will buy just wherever you teach us to buy. it you tench us. to use Ontartc miltiliilpcly; if you per- lsist as you are doing in bringing in ‘wagons, cans and rlclgiia and putt- ing them on thc market and deal- ing them out to uc .we will learn to buy them. if on the other hand. you are fai- sighted enough t0 adopt a policy of manufacturing these articles at home, going after it in a sysiemauic, business-like way with co-opdration Iietwccn those who mani.ac.utr these ar- ticles and those whOsc business it is to put them on the market, I thinkihat something yet could be done to build up the inducttuai M6 of the Maritime Provinces.

We do not want to be grouciierst We still bt-ilsvc Lherc are great posinbilitlcs ahead for the Marl- tlirie Provinces along the liuc oi agncuiture. Notwithstanding any remarks that may have been iuailo -'iii this Iioutie to the contrary W“ as ahulcuiturlsus ‘ii "this Province and l believe in thc other Maritime Provincce. are all the time mak- lug progress. Despite the fact that m" pepuigtlon is bciiiig deck-Rd year after year, we find thabthll agricultural production of the Pro- ving, h,“ been eteadily mounting; so that we as farmers are wcii able to look after our own side of the production and, if file business man would look after the other and. it is not our business to mun- ufacturc. it is riot our business .o place the mnriufacturd K001"! °ll thc market. That la the work oi those engaged in trade and com~ merce.

But if we expect to increase agricultural population on the i8- lund I am airald there is a dis- appointment in store. We are often advised as farnie-rs that it would be better to divide our farms; l0 0\ll' tlvate a smaiiler acreage llllll lllll- more people on the land. l think I tiiidcrsiand farming collllllllJllll “S wt-il he any mun in the Province iuid I believe that under lllflfielll renditions that idea is a fallacy- it ls illl absolute impossibility A smaller acreage would mean a dif- itrerit clans oi furminz llllllttfiill- m; it would mean grow-hrs slut-ll grime and garden truck dlllll’ order to be successful in that imi- wt: must have a rcudy illillle mark- ct -to consume our products. We have not such a market in this Province, nor do I see any Dfllflllfllll of it in the‘ future. We then. 0i irecessity, would have t0 K9! °lll liiio thc markets of the larger cit- ies oi Canada where we would he fuel-d with the cost oi transports- tlon (whether it be high 0r low) and competition from those who

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: Duplication of Industries I

l Mr. Speaker. when the House lmuh rggm-is at six o'clock we were ‘discussing the question oi the in- diuitrial life oi the Maritime Pro- vinces. it is iiot my intent"!!! l0 'uiiiluly ir-Difliig thc debate but l would like to say in Daflslll! al this stage oi the question that we in this Province. “m1 I D79“ some all over the Maritime Pro- vinces as well, have suffered in days gone by from something which ior want 0i a better term l might cull duplication of IMHO- gripe, By that 1 mean unwarrant- dvlliitithii I have ZIlV-iiifld ill 1M past, that every time a lit-lie in- gush-y would start up in thc Pro- vince and was on d fair way l0 success. someone else, or some otbe i-compuuy. vlswlus llwlr 8W- cess, would start iii aionl! thc 881M! line. The result has aiwayll bee" disaster; lllele “'°“lll ml be enough business to keep the two running, and generally both 0i them went to the wall. Now this kind oi thing mlsht be vrlllelmd- We have in the Maritime Provinc- es today an organization known as the Ma-rltlm-e Devciolllllelll All‘ socintion which may be 0f Riel" benefit along this line. The whole fit-id should be carefully cllllvase‘ ed by experts who are thoroughly conversant with the Bllllllllml- 5° that, duplication of industries might be largely prevented.

I will pass on now to a icw re- marks aibout the Dtpartment over which l preside, l am ve-ry 5°"? to notice that the Opposition. eve" though there has been no election since I last held thc floor a KEW hours ago. has dwindled from the respectable number oi five down to one bare representative oi that grand old Liberal party. (Lauiill- tcr) I am sorry some oi the other members of the Opposition are not In their pieces because i in- tend to direct a few remarks their way. The hon. ihembr for Summer- side( Mr. Mohrthur) levelled a few mild eriticams at my depart- ment. Tliey were nicely mild id- ticod. Ho need not have been airald to resume his seat tonight for any- thing that I intended to do to him. (Laughter) Be went so iar as to tell us that criticism had been levelled at the Dellflfllilelll l" some member of the House. ll l~° the value" of the DoDGrl-Illllllli whether or not it would be better to close 1t up and do without it al- together. My answer to that e. that long after the member for Summerside will Iiave ceased t0 occupy that seat. Ill“ -D6Dllfllll°lll 0f Agriculture, poi. M)! he" lllll- in gvgry government ythroulhulll the world. will still go on doing its good work. Hiavc itionii and Ill-I:

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mDllrlmenti-You might go back to the year 557 B. (2.. when we are told that no lees a person than Ouniusluc. before he turned DTIHlOBODlIBT and religious leader oi topic. was Minister o! Agricul- tur _ China.

My hon. friend for Suuimerside was almost tempted to question whether‘ the Department hes been functioning at all during the past yell‘. his cbiei reason for doubting it being the fact that be has not seen any letters in the public press over my name. My reply is that he will see very few letters in the press from rue. l have no desire for publicity along -that line. Some men are different. I know. They are very fond oi see- ing their names in print and var- ous means are employed from ".iuie to-time in order tto secure this publicity. One man .took a trip to the Ulti Country, ill cadcr to ge-t h'.i name in the. papers. l cvcn heard of an Irishman who hangtii himself, to get his name published.

Dairy Production. .

There is u. paragraph in thc Speech that has called forth more than the usual amount oi debut-t, and that is thc following: "While the price of dairy products and potatoes was somewhat lower than that of last year. it was more than effllt by the ‘higher prices for pork, poultry and Iced grain." That has been called in question by the members of ttha Opposition they deny the veracity of the state- ment. lt is my purpose to ccwrcct \ill:ill along that line, in the f-PSL place, l wonder if the Opposition really know what ilie deficiencies in the iluiry production for the putit year have been, and how much lcc-way had to hemade up by the increase ln the prices of pork. poultry and seed grain. l have here some figures that might throw iirlit on that question. (l am glnil to notice that my hon. friend for Suiumerslde has come hack to bear us company.)

So irir a-i dairying is concerned, the record for the past two years is iiot nearly so dark as the iioii. iilismbcrs opposite ‘SQUID to he- llevc. In the year 1923 thc cheese factories made 1,811,535 pounds of cheese. the value of which was all-Khalil). in 1924, we increased that to 2,047,124 pounds, valued a! 2320.433; an increase in the quan- tity of cheese of 235,658 pounds. The price of course was a little lower.

W: mfldg 1,515,301 pounds of but- ter in 1923, valued at 8646.874. in 1924 wc increased cur make of bul- tci- up to 1,636,497 pounds, valued at 8572.779 .

comparing the two years. we find that this great . deficiency, that has been so held t-p to us, amounts to the modest sum of ex- actly sixty-one dollars; that is to say, In the daliying industry, the each receipts were sixty one doli- ars less in the year 1924 than in 1923.

New, lVlr. Speaker, taking into consideration the prices of poi-k. pouitry and seed grain, I would ask ‘thc Opposition tif it has not more than made up this deficiency of gixty-eng dollars? That is the an- 'cwcr to that criticism. The para- graph ‘hac a perfect right to appear tn the Speech and it |l absolutely correct.‘

. MR. Dennis: My I ask a ques- Lion‘! . HON. MR. MYERS: Yes.

MR. DENNIS: My statement was in regard to the quality oi‘ the products, only. Was my statemen correct? ‘

HON. MR. MYERS: Ii the Sentie- mun will possess his soul in patien- ce I will come to that; but l hate to be ruched. i can assure the lion. member that among my volumin- nus notes that point is not IOFKDIt- en and it will be covered. I would like i.rsi. to say a few words with respect to technical education in this Province, and that will open the subject to which the hon. mem- ber irom Oihcary has referred. During the last campaign. in fact for almost the whole term oi the late Bell Government, a great deal oi adverse criticism was levelled at Tec nical School which hail been c ated by my predecessor in office. in the city of Charlottetown. So far as l was concerned myself, during the campaign oi 1923 l was very csrcfiii what 1 suid about that institute on because whisre education is concerned‘ it finds me ever ready. not with criticism but with a helping hand. To bear out my statement along that \line 1 have qnly to mention the fact that when I took charge oi -the Depart- _nient, when the Stewart Govern- ment came into power on the 5th. oi September 1923, i made no in- tcrruptlon in the work oi the Tech- nical School or in any matter af- fecting technical education. I look- trl the situation over. l told the Principal that he was ires to go ahead ior the coining winter, to rlo just what he had been doing be- fore. I assured him that the re- sources oi the Department were behind him so far ius advertise- mcnts were concerned and that I wanted him to make the biggest success of the Technical School during that winter that it was poss- ible to do. I iurther told him that tho firtuicoi thatSchool would dc- pond upon the work that lsaw carri-.

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ed on during the winter, I watched‘ the institution very carefully. Scarcely a week passed but I made- a couple of visits. and I saw that good work was being done. But I also saw that the expense of that inctitifiion was certainly out of all proportion to the results obtained. [For instance, they had a Principal employed on a yearly salary. They also had attempted to establish a herd oi cattle ou; there; a vary unlikely place, as you gentlemen know, none bettir than the mem- ber from 0’Leary. They had a herd- man employed by the year, look- ing after those three cows. They had a janitor looking after the place. also employed by the year; three men oii ytuily salaries. ‘l made up my mind that it would be beyond our resources to carry on as they were ‘than doing. 'l‘hc School was closed down at the

ififlllilacksmlthlngl, iiid we Jud the Federal Government taken over the‘ Women's Institutes of thc Province and pay half the colt cf those". and the IlJQFt courses con- ducted therein. (Appluum).

We WLre also able to cuccccd in having a ctmmerclal course put on in Prince of-Walcs College. That might require a word or two in ex- nisnstion- We have in Prince of Wa-les College one oi the finest in- stitutions of turning in Eastern Canada, presided over by a very able stuff. yet» it did not seem to be illl ng the requirements oi the Province. altogether. When young men entered the College, it did not makc any difference whether they were looking flit-illl to a pzcftssion- 1i life, a iiil-illICSS life or an agricul- tural ildc; they all had to go through the ohc mill. The same

oiid oi March, but i noted that good work was being done along some Iints and I was unwilling to see it entirely broken off.

You know Mr. Spcuker the con- ditions in the Province e0 fa-r llH our young people arc cane-truer]. at the prrurnt time. You know that some years ago at every cross- roads throughout the Province you would find l1 number of in-

courss was open to the young man \vho wnntcd to go hack tn tuc store or to thc farm. as wan open to n

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uiitci- a prrifctuslonal cares-x. Wc did not coihiitlcr that was right. We LUHSlillGll llr. ltobcrtsou, principal 0i the Coilfige, Thti was when wt wet-t llirilllillilliii: with Mi‘. (,li'a\v~ ford, llilil i want to say that our success along iiizit lute iviis larg- ely due iii the aid we Au-rilvi d from

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penter shop, tailor shop, paint shop, shoe maker's shop, and so forth. That encouraged young men to go and learn their trades. All that has dlisappi-arcd from the face of our fair _Province and for our young men now thcre are only two careers ahead; one is to farm and the other is to go away. Up to the present we appear to have dis- covered no way oi retnlning them in the Province and when‘ they go away I for one would like to see thcni so itttcd that they will not have to lake up manual labor in the- neighboring provinces. Technical Education.

It was ior that reason that it was decided to give our young men the fullest benefit of a ic-cli- nical education which the resourc- es of our Province could stand. With -that end in view we got the director oi technical education, Mr. Crawford, down irom Ottawa last October, and he brought with him a very nice letter from the Min- ister oi Labor, Hon. Mr. Murdock. under whose department the tech- nical grant is administered. Mr Crawford was inst-rusted to make special concessions to the people of the island due to our isolated position and the difficulties cover- ing conditions here. I may say that the technical grant has absolutely nothing to do with agricultural education. neither will they apply it to anything pertaining too clos- oiy to agriculture. it was not giv en for that purpose at all. W-t- hail to step pretty lightly with Mr. Crawford along some lines.

You will ask, How did we ecc- ure the assistance of the technical grant for thc dairylng Industry? Simply by using our persuasive ability. We told Mr. Crawford that ‘t was a manufacturing industry and we succeeded in persuariig him to accept It at that .(Appiiiuiiei That is how we were able to secure one-hail‘ the salary oi a dairy inspector.

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We furtlicr iur-utfonoil to Ml‘- Crawford tiint wc would like to have some night schools eeiiiltliah- ed throughout the Province and we ask-ed lf- thc Federal Government would hear part of the expense 0i‘ these, Thei reply of Mr. Crawford was that anything along the lint.- of edacrit-lonto improve our young tnen in thc~work they arc engaged in would receive assistance. We took advantage of it in the George- iown night school. i might mention that we have in the cue-item end of the Province one oi the night schools I have cvcr seen lu operation, Wc have hchlnd that night school a wonderful young iiian in the person of Mi". Lloyd Shaw, one oi our prtseiit school iii- spoctors. Mr. Shaw has been able to take boys and grown men off the streets in Georgetown who two years ago could not sign their own names. I had the pleasure of at- tendlngthc closing of that school some fear wceks ago. and those students, so far as a business training is concerned. 8P6 59*!" equipped today than the young men taking the ordinary course in Prince of Wales College. Part of the expenses of that night school will be borne by thc technical grant and we are free now to go ahead and qrggnljg QUIOI‘ night JOYIOOIB in different sections of the Pro- vince and it is our intention to do gc next season.