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' r r ‘ . .. “' , . . would no l v I Q-It would be a beam with two A—-N°- was. the beam fill" Where the light was 0r any conclusions gotutmllhi- hi" 03;?" “MPH”? t n Si‘ 1 t moves in it. which would so across Q-"imlie W" w‘ "1' u‘ ii" 9'1“ “he” "" ‘w’? m“ M“ “mum m’ m m mail-cubic was that y A-No sir y ' y the wall and then a llah‘. piece a’ iii" °i "is "iii"! ‘ii’ "m" Y” ‘Am’ s!" 0' I m’ m" w“ m“ ' M‘ A. Th: .13.... noticed rim. it Q-Bow oounllnasdid y" t‘ . . . mum,“ Wt, the (pp? went in» telook at m mt wir- Q-Was there my tackle? lathe ceiling? when the it mt ~ a ‘ii _ u, c re? A. yeg gu- 1 egg years ago hadauch headway that w p Y have out there? .1 , Apyut it would (it oygi- m; wlr g ame up wile Ar-No. r A .8" t how n: ted‘ Th a 3 mm hum" _ I _ l en e a r u A-Through MicQueerfs room. m. Btewart. theQl-e hvsahittgmbeu: t m." naming???“ 13v, u‘ you. ptutou ‘ma-Z bgtitnzafiown to 1 1_t_ a; .,_. I ‘ts-How was that moulding secur. 2:11‘): into the attic? ymxQg-gxtixllllt never been used in A: About Minna‘? of how me n" Emma? Q__whn we w“ we hm um .‘ '%filld frompaae l) Q-In that unfinished attic there AFNuued with small bl-gg nails. Q-Up in the blind attic, wliei-g ib-NQ Q. You any the wire was 00ml!!! A-It is pretty hard It, had out there? . ,_,._-. l were two or three rooms? $860M: It coma be ‘any tom did they come up? Q_ (Mu 3",) Th, to, 0t the down through a hole, what did you u, judge how the fire si 1. t A._!bur inch. Mr. Trainor told , t t A-Ycs- om s-on rile outside dormitory, to- dumb waiter shaft was closed? 4° "mi i" Q—-Whaa did W" fir" --" ° inc it w» 4 inch. They had small" _ luau, : 1 ' Q-dh whit section o! the blllild- Q-Did they have lights? A_n could be mum 0th It would “um the other amt I L ye,’ tut A. There was nothing to be dun’ the fire? er hue than that for smaller lines I t n" - In: wan those old fashioned types A-oile in each not he huu to tuhe 0th Q-On the Outside dvrmlwfy- Q~ B!’ "hi"? “M” it‘ A-About ten minutes a: ciahl. Q_.3° ma; our, water wasnit teat m I I N "Ii "W" "iii" Q-‘Mir 5mm“ “"3"” w" Q-You could take it off with Show me where the wiring camel A. Boards Q- Willi-w" d“ W“ 1° “P? Q-Ycu save "is "m" ed at all by the city firemen? t : A-‘Ihere were all ever, but they in this room your hands? up? Q. Werc these boards nailed? A- x m“ “i! i!" m!" 1 W" "P A_1-[enry Jenkins. km, ‘in " _- I W" ma"? in “w” “"- (Mr- 3°") Th!‘ l‘ l" m’ ah" A-No, not easy. The brass was A-Tha line came up throulh here 4- Y". sir. it was all fastened "n" I we” m w‘ ‘ Wm m’ " Q-Dld W" 1°“ m“ u‘ ‘J Y“ Q—Because the hose would no! ‘ “ * t Q—But there were some there? part. put u, thttth Q.“ “m, up in the uuiinmted solid. mm’- "d m‘ “m w” h“? were in the flre room? fit? z ‘"71"? we" "an" m“ by Palm" 9-9“ He”) The" we" at has‘ Q~If you were a little bit desper- attic part? Q. Nailed to what? ‘hm’ I "m up “d puma e A-Yea, I was sitltna oil iliit =5‘ A-Yea. \ .' '; h’ and Wakwh. thirty-eight lisliie 1°? “"9 5°” °t ate you could take it off? A-Yes. A. Beams running tacross. °°rd thrown um glne. I went right direct to the at- Q_.pid they try or examine it a1 f‘ r7 v Q-It does not make any differ- fuses? t a-Yss- M" 5mm Q. Then the dumbwaiter shalt Q- Th‘ w" w“ mm W“ °° uc. " nui- » , “iiflfh an : ~ once who by. And the iype of fuse A-Yes, sir. ‘Fund thut w“ up tram the Q4)“ tt touow the tuulu hotth wall that is the walls surround- n“ "am m Q-Bad the fire broken thriii-‘lh A-No sir. l don't think they did “~11”? a _I . '

block used ordinarily. €X¢9l>l~ D"- Q-Dld you know ‘J19 “P543151! 0i 1100f belqw? wnll qi Lhg building? 1118 the dumb waiter shalt, what A‘ Ye,’ t the roof then? -not to my knowledge. I was in i“ 11 - V;

ihapa in a case of the intakes and the fuses? A_Yes_ A__'me south wan were they? glgwit‘: u" you A-Y“. we engine wom- .’:.l;;.:. —' ";_

iror power, would be the screw type A-Ycs. ihiriy aillperes. Q_Aud went up the Stde 0t the‘ Mu Bach A. Brick on three aides. Q‘ trzen” h“ could euuy "uh Q-Ycu saw thai? Q-‘lhey would naturally set your o. ' "' t?

lfuse, the socket type fuse? Q-Thirty ampcres? wall in McQueen; room? To the Q_1=\ggm ilie unfinished hurt 0t Q. What was on the other aide? a“ t y 5.51", uggigguiieg? ‘us. l" :

t A-Yrs- Bir- A-Yes- ~ " ccilingl ulc attic cculd you see wires gcing A- W°°¢ A Pretty close to it. o-ncwr A-Yes. "ma? L‘ Q-w us 8° 4° iiie "warn "i"! Q-Thsi is a very hear-i’ iii"? A-No, that is as m as it come. up? Looking c: rilc wall coilld you Q‘ A“ I u’ “"°°"“”“ m” ‘m’ q‘ On a chair you could 5o coa- A-We ‘will iii“ °“i ‘i '*“° ‘°°"i Q (Mr. Been-what was thn

b‘ the building Where the fire orig- A-Yes, sir. a very heavy fuse. Q__u stopped tum, m the whet ‘out: up, that the ens side. I presume it stdetmy mm tum thut, in gcb to the side of the building. u,“ tum u; hue Depammut. up. t m ‘iii.’

incited. can you tell me difinltell" Q-How long have they been A__yeS_ A-Yes. woumb? the mum side o’ the dumb A yen Q (Mr. Stewart) You went in the uuratus to get the“? _ ugh,“ m

how many sets of fuses lvere ill that time? Q_Y°u Said it m" to the tenet? Q_H°w were they promwd’ m waiter shaft, was constructed from Q: Ho‘; high w" the cent“ tn north west unmet. u; the wing‘ ' A_They Just brought a Sm“, t w: iii

Wins? 1 111"" by wsr i“? “s” ‘i’ A-EY" silica I “mi ‘"8"’- rb-li did not come up any fur- rile unfinished attic going up tilc “i” °° “m” °' "W" this attic? 1 would say it was a A-Yee. truck first. run-u ‘

I s"- °iis w m" i“? Qriiiei’ W" "Si"! "m" "h" ther. n branched across to the toil- blind attic? ' A if" merry low ceilinz. isn't it? Q-Whai did 1°“ 1W ‘mi Y“ Q-Diu they buns a ha"? an: w A-Tilere were five. you rlvent there and you Just wri‘ et. A-They weren't protected. Yes,“ u you know? A. No, sir, fairly high. I would went to the attic? - A__1 couldn-i; gg.y_ r “it _ Q-Five sets? tinned using them? Q~Isift the toilet across the attic Q-Tiley weren't covered with ' ' ' 111C186 flbulili the 59ml! lifilllili I! U"! A-It was lull of smoke and fire Q__wuu tt the uhemiml truck? __ 3 A-Yei» 53'" A-Yes- 5"‘- floor? beading? Q mere was not just m open- ceiling here. . gull the patients were coining down. A-Weii I guess it was. It was one m l Q-Wiiere were "WY 1mm“? Mr- Ew- A-Yes. ‘PM 1:8 h; the brick m the doom’ w“ Q; How lcuiz was the piece of Q-md thop who were sleep‘ of the small trucks. °° A-Ln the basement. Q-Were all the fuses of those Q-Tlie wires came up on the in- Q-What were they, lust tube? in No ‘h, drop cord from the ceiling? mg in the attic come out? Q_w" m,“ only one ti-uek "Tm m

_Q-~All in the basement? five sets thirty amphere fuses? slut at the muth “h 0t tuoquem.‘ A___Y”_ I q. Th.‘ other m“ M" m i“ A It wag ligngirlg down five feet, 540m, w," cmm‘ down mg m," out? ‘b. t ac:

A-Ycs, air. A—Yes, sir. room-l Q-To wring were they gggigmdp u to“ know we” comtmzted at probably a little more. mil-g, Moat of them were down. - 5;“ tutu Q-Did you have a supply of ex- Q—Dld you have spareiuses? A_yegt Ar-To lhe wall. hutch, ' Q. And if there was a drop cord Q__wh° w“ l‘ tug ueig? Q_what w“ the m“ m“ t‘ ‘wit. ll.

tla fuses? lib-Yes, we always had spare fus- Q-D1d they go right up to the Q—Was it a brick wail? A_ y" hanging down ifive feet from the d Mom“ comet, .

A~Ysa sir- sr- , ceiling of McQueervs room? A—'No, wood. Q uhuwtm ma,“ hum the cellins and you teak a chair and *'°w“° Jew“ m A__An°ther uuch with u,“ ma, Q-H0w many outlets were their Q_H5,ve you ever known these _li_ypg, giglii; up, Q-You went up to the blind attic hmuch 0t the mutt.“ mutt h‘ the stood on it you could easily reach it? Sheri-an and Henri’ Jiiiiklm- h“ them on En the true“ ln the wesiem wing? Perhaps you thirty umrphere fuses to blow out? Q_Aud then crossed on the tgil. rmu ygu went even- to where the htthu utttu and goth‘ to the MW A. Of course thecord might no Q-And were they able to Bet a; Q-md they have mm t” m“ Cami“ "m" "m" we a" Swami! °i "is “is Wins? ma? wires came up thrvush the attic Varlah-Bark room cut dlascrlally m” m” 3"” m’ ‘m’ ‘ hm ‘mm we pm o! the am“ trucks there eventually? A-NQ m" “"771” ma“ wmg- ‘A-No. they were on the liisldd- “euiiiil? FY01" were Where did iliel’ across the head of the dumb waiter Q‘ w” the“ my “h” "mm “wmer? 1-: think there were three. Q-speaking scout the outlets, Q_Huve you ever replaced my, Q_,I,hey were not ‘exposed? gut than? why you went up there? A-At that time, no sir. _ t Q_D° you know mo m‘ pump“ how many were there? A__we huve changed them. but A_No_ Just t“ u “he comma to A_1=»mut when they “the up, A Y” m,‘ A. No, sir. Q—Wirat about McQueeua room wtm o“ lee l" A-I cannot sive that lo you iii-i? no‘. for being blown out. ill-lg toilet, Q-You are up in the blind attic Q, 30y, w", thtte Wu." "cub Q. Were you having any trouble their? ' A_§'° m I "w" "w t‘ N” the

how. I had "i "will" °' ‘m’? Q-Why did you chahss them? Q-This line was on the celiina? and tracing the wirlns. how did ed? Wm‘ u” “Sh”? A-Tlmi” wk“ my Wm m“ n-w rn r ‘

lillllt in the buildinfl. A-We would be changing them A__.YQ5_ t they ‘go? ' A_ gluten“ with ingulutloh pot. 5- NO- 9h‘- 1118 9° 8°‘ h!” l" “l” mm" The Qlger? 51o“ the" when t the, u Q-cCan you figure it out by fuses? around for dampness. They would q__il had bggdlng Qvep it? A-They went over the centre of celain blocks, square blocks to wires Q_ These uuhts tn the utttc do“ whole attic was afire and blazing. were “ling l” t‘ t

D A-Yes. air. get corrugated up. _li,_Nn, the dormitory. e one en each end, mttory tn the Mcvhmtusurk room‘ Q-You blew the whistle? A-No m not down when m” ._ i Q—-Dovm in the basement. how Q-The dining room is damn? Q--It was open wiring scrnss the Q-What happened there? q. (Mr. Stewart) That was up u“, we... they continue." lk-Mr- Jtiiiiii" "l" i“ “m”, m, utu, ‘tt

many lilhll were till"? A-There would always be a cer- ceiling of the attic dormitory? A—Tli¢y branched from there in- above? A Jugt Qufngd oi; Aa soon as he told me about the Gino 3°“'kn°w what m“ n A-Nirie. taln amount of dampness, scrubbing 5.31m to this room. . A. Yes. Q A twttch? fire ‘I told him to blow the whistle vmved? l’

Q-Nirle lights in the basement of with u-nrm water, v Q~And then into the toilet? Q-‘lhey branched diagonally to Q. Up in the blind attic? A, Ne, air, p, butter; on the light, and I ran to the attic. r A_The his pummkm m t

the western wing? Q—Aild brass and copper is hlgh- A-Yes, the Sark-Mcvarrlsh room? A. Yes. Q How um they tum out the Q~Were they b81118 fl-iil’ "ti" _ u ‘or m" ' f A-That is in the dinins i‘°°iii ly subject to corrosion? Q-was there a. light in the toil- A-Yes. Q. (Mr. Beer) Were these wires light m the attic dofmitgfy? then? ' ‘a“_;:y our mm would b‘ lulu‘

over where the fuses were. A__.Ye5_ ct? Q-By doing met they would 3n fastened on the top of the dumb A, Thgre w“ g gwiggl-l ouggiug . Adm” we" mm‘ thu hon my tmcm M“ and “m! w‘

' Q—-Nlne in the dining i‘°°m- m“ Q-But you never tried lighter A-No, almost directly over the dumb walt- will" $118"? D0 W" 311°" ll the" the door. Q_HW w“ 1t working? no u“ n n!

many in the rest or the basement? tum tn there? Q_R was not use“ H Shaw) was u uomeluht hutch oh the top Q You just stated you could not t~e preasur of the tank as a source

A-The water was very sood but

A-‘Ihere were three from that A_'Nu_ A_N° it was not useth luqiiglit uluttgstdh of the dumb waiter? much the light in the ‘imic dgl-m]. mm w“ no p t h S: “;Pti;“tm"~ii.i’°‘m§$iu§:“f°" u, the rest of the buildius- Q—Dld ycu have any lighter fus- Q-The ligile that was used in Q-Bis? hut War iii Say this was A" N“ m‘ w"? Q-Were you down on the lower wuld they have sot any pressure? ""1 Q-That‘ is in the Mfilifi-Wii-Y? es? mg agile delirium-y wgllld be about the shaft that came along here. Q; The"? W" 11°" A. No, air. “w”? ‘A N t t d at Sm m. an» ‘IA-Yea, air. . A-Yes. ilie calm-g oi glig dni-lniwy-yr Here is the Mcvarish room, we will A- N°- "i" . Q. Was it necessary for them to A Y“ m m “m? gedfi: b“; ‘ht yum Q—-Whtt about the section of the Q——Wl'i3.L were they for? A-Yes. draw a line. there is the dumb wait. Q- what distill” W°ii1ii W" 56V be reached? Q_How about the prom“ the“? t: ° ‘d nnecwd its“ with the .. . building west of the dining Timmy Ar-Wllcir they were putting in the Mr. Stewart. n? "I would be ‘mm the central point A. Nam‘ that u the "mm they A-It was better on the lower; e: ‘i: cum ut ‘th pwum- up the basement? new work in the other part of the Q-wculd that wll-Q touch the A--The wires run right across m the “d '3' the M°v".“h‘5“'k Ware so hllh- n m‘ ' w° d z at do a but h, A-Going right throush to ilid building we used only fifteen. dumb waiter box? m"- ? branch? Q. whatvabout the suit-Nev“. oomYh have flredrillthere some t? thidsecgn t storthwnhw-rhen . basement.’ _ Q___How tong have they been. at A_Yes‘ it “m fight by ‘t. Q_Ru;m across the mp o! the A. I would say about nine feet. igh mm. wuid the light b, "ugh. ‘:3 W wou niznpu dsrous . m n ~ y Q4301“ over towards the in- the ‘york? Q-It did not run through it? shaft? t Q. Nine. feet, it must be more ed thump t esY was only f y rtzun ‘MENU o Iil-mary in the basement? A-Jrile female side was all c0m-' A-No. right alongside. A-Yes. , I ha“ that? 5- “(i-w- n°t "Rim"? 39m"! “P A- es‘ the"? that tank when w“ u ' t " s A-Tbdr is the dlnihs ruiiui- nicicd. " Mr. Beer. Q—Ycu had a lisht in the centre ‘Ant I "gm? “Y ‘i "Wm l" “b?” ah a bed or something. Qr-LYW "m Q-Tiie mill‘ “iii Y°;ih “"1? v2 i i . . i t , th . A- . » -. ' - ' ' Q-Where were the cells in the Q~It was completed? It was just Q-The light in the main dormi-t- of the att.c dormitory? egq e3“! eltrokrtlglytwvavzntlltloolftk 8M6- Q. There was no open wiring in Q-Mz“ about the ha" on mo” ttznlieisswtt: hunger,’ inrmltemllteuamp? V H ‘h _ l‘ basement loos/Led? the last year yvu had lighter fuses? ory room was about in the centre _ A-—Yea. ' ' ‘he S“'k'M°v‘"l5h "Wm? . y p "- A_vfl_y n", the centre 0t the A_Ye5' o! the room? Q_Huw was it fed? Kenzle. is how far or at what dis- A, No, air. occasions? A-Yes air.

tance apart were the porcelain blocks supporting the wire?

A-Fairly good shape. I! "i"? were any leaks or anytliiii! "#10118

Q-If you had pressure would at you have enough water to keel

Q. (Mr. Stewart) Were all the lights in the attic controlled by one

buildlnfl. ‘r Q-Were there extrajights tilcre?

Q-Let us take Ilia cottage, you live in ille cottage?

A-Olf this line. Q-Was there another line run-

Ae-Yies. I Q-‘Illare was another light in

' i A- o" every °i'°55 beiim- it h? e re aired them. . feeding a hose that would be putting A-Yes. sir. there was. a iisiii A-Yes. not now. i the room occupied by McVarrish hlris siralsht down rile building to "i ° w i’ V . . Q. On every cross beam, _ tth e? 7 ‘hem Q-You did We m m and Sam m We" missed? none $2..» Th" —- "id h" the ax; crlfifw wgierrsocixt tbhye fir: way the pump Q-m“ “um be one more? Amyes‘ AA,“ ‘Acme Mk “the M°vmsh' si- Ne. sir- cure dorlrlito r y Q-wculd they tum an all lira was wcrlrinll-tlrar is 4i Blllona i A-Yes. sir. _ Q~It was electrically lighted? Q-Jn what part of the room? Sark room to the centre of the attic Q. But the" were no“ on the A Yes m” hose at once? ~ Both pump! “e on the “me we" ~". Q-Woilid there be any m?" A-Ycs. A-The centre. ddmritcry. tut, o. the dumb Waite, smut, ' ' ' ' i l" ' a . <- .'I‘h Ilhti lat! - uldbeonaa di: dthrohth lights in that section? Q-Wllat capacltytfusus did you Q-Was it open wiring on the Q-Tlwfe was Ht 011B Mme. We A Nu’ Shh asqwem are was a 8 n u‘ a tc A “gm o’ tzfiuz; the wan“; 2:” lgfhgzmxzuld beugo beset??? , . 5"“? the” w” °“° as y” go have ‘here? “"1"!” ““d"s“md' ‘i ‘mm’ “m” m“ i“ Q. And yet it would be at least: a Yes air you w uldwhave the llosc turned i usin. ulc two pumps toseiber 0m "'4 DU‘, the door in the hall.‘ m e A-Jrwentyfive, A-No, it came through the ceil- order to hoist food up to feed the three feet? Q‘ u é“ éontmued separately? ‘filteythiziiwlndw m L“ them m ca" the hm” I Q—NOW. Mr. McKenz e. 0S Q-Thal; is very heavy filse? lng. Patients? A yes Sh. two and oh‘. huh tent A' Y t i ' . i ' ' ' ' - . . t l ' . - lszhts would be all from those sets A-'I'ilere was more than one line. Q ~ SIIPPOSC something went A-Yes. anyway, Q. Tehserse rwas a door there be. thzziilitlgufotulecgilltlilthtg “It: x? largo: 121330“ you had used 10m t,

f ‘Q there wa th coilvalcs to tl wr 1th til ' whil wei- Q—And w understand that the i dag. air. direct from the board. 5 e w‘ " ‘e ‘mg “' ° “m” °‘ ° e Q‘ 5° m“ “i “m” b‘ “m” "we" "iii "i" ii°iiiiii°fy "iii ii" A-No sir.

same yum gallons out of the tank before the

up ‘above the ceiling. how would use of this dumb waiter had been lace between thm, m. t , w“ ' i q-Those five sets of fuses con- Q__Thcrc would bc quite 3, mlm- you g0 about repairing that? discontinued and other means o.’ 5mm“ the top ht the dfigrbiieait: m?“ $352k Q-Oh the first floor they W011i: firemen got there? _ itrclled, or safeguarded. ¢li9 Weswi“ bel- of lights on that line? A-Ycu would have w get up ov- transporting the food was used? mutt when the putcttuth w“ used? w“; that d”: “pt locked u“ 5'" “m” “ Dream" “f! n "mud 5'4!“ “ha” w“ l‘ 1°‘ o‘ “n” mm: only? A__ytl5‘ uulte u mu et-htuu mat i‘ hot-mutt A Yes’ tut the “ma? v get less the farther up you woul going. ‘that was what was killing ,, A.__Ygg, 51:, _ Q-You are quite familiar with Q-How would you get up over- A-Yes- Q, Did ygu name any flack A_ Y“, um 3°? me wmure‘ Q-There were fourteen lights in the wuthg throughout the whole head? Q_1t w“ supposed to he Secured the”? Q A8 a technical mm. m. m? A-Yes. t t Q-I think if wehrevert to Am the basement? lvestern wing? A-Iil the hallway there was a on eccil nccl-l A_ Nu u,’ th, Wu.” Wm tuht heme, you would m" mhdend Q-was rile pressure any d" ai‘ srlcan aailane it will he eisier rs A-Yes, sir. y A,_YE5_ hatch. A-Yiis- - Q. Do you know how old the wir- mm uii mule, what mitht h“, "it Ii u" n" 411115 m“ ii W" "lure filil-‘l- The ‘capacity of thr Q~W0llld there be m0"? ma" Q-Was it all concealed wiring? Q-Whlch hallw-ay? A Q-eso that no person could gain ing was? uuuged mi; git-t‘ “M, the nth you the “mm d me n"? tank l“ Amflmm “mm” l" that on the first floor Inside of the ceiling? A-Jcearllng into the big dormitory entry to it? A. No, air, it was there before my have thought it over, you would like AgNo w‘ A-‘mlmo’ , A_.0! the ward? A-No sir. not all. Q—-That would be over the stairs? A-Yes. time. u; feel you we". not t-gtpomiblt tn Q4315 W" "I511" m“ 7m“ ‘Nb Q43‘? W“ kmw the “Vac”? °' ! Q-Ol Ward 1 and l? Q-Was most Dilly? A-comilig up the stairs, there Q-Was this secured at each Q. were you ever informed cf eny way? Bi‘ iiiililillf Willi? Biimiiieiii 011 w‘ the pump on the flre departmeni A-Just three items on each A-Mbst of it. was a hatch in the ceiling above fleas? any leaks thrcush the roof there? a. No, sir. °°iiiii °i m’ 1°" Vim“? 9mm" . ‘ , ‘Mt Q-J-Iow was it lip in the attic? rile stairs leading to the attic dcrnl- A-‘Ycs. A. No. sir. a You would like to feel that? A4?" "i" -*"N° "i- _ Q-And then there are some Pul- A-The wlrcs in the attic were all itory. You come up the stairs and Q~Are you sure? Q. Did you ever lmuw oi any A. Yea, sir. Q-Th" w" Bmfimly “W” Q-n 1' 1-000 3mm“ i‘ minute