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110110111‘ H great man. The rccorc of the Supreme Court of this Pro- vince, under chief Justice Mathie. son and under his predecessor, is one that any province may well be Drouel of. And I feel that very shortly we will have another Chief Justice in this Province of whom also We are some to be proud. When the time ocmes when a. suc- cessor to Chief Justice Mathlggoh 1s flllpolnted, we are going to be proud to say he was a colleague of ours at one time, that he cid his best [and that he had a hard task illid a lot of unruly folloyvers; that glctgavc them too much latitude, m‘ allmléllllll/ ll W11! the only thing 0- lit when it comes to the appointment we are going to 5ay__ "Plwlhlnll goes to Prince County!" nrRfimllllls the various birthpgrrgg nomjicthjudiciary, Dr, Mummm, Jud at the three county COW; E9“ Wore born within a racious of le=s than ten miles in Prince agile. when the next cluey '~.- e5 lllll seat. the three

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have been read by the Speaker as the proper channel to convey the congratulations and best wishes of the Legislature. 1 know that had I been Premier, that is the way it wouid have been done. I think Chief Justice Mnthieson was entitl- ed to a little more than he got from the Legislature. For many yenrs he vms a prominent and dom- lnent figure in this House. During the years that hc was Premier he made representations and a name for himself and he succeeded in proving the validity of those claims which we had against the Federal Government. Ho was the first to demonstrate them and to obtniii for this Province nn lllCl'L“.lSl.‘f‘I subsicy of $100,000 for all time lo Come." Dr. MacMillan then reviewed the proceedings under the While Com- mission nnd the tninority rcport bllllltlht in by Chief Justice Malhie- son. which left. the door open for further presentation of Maritime claims on the basis of fiscal need. ‘I know.” he continued. "that every one who went over there that day felt that we were going to

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Supreme Court judges will all have been born within another little tedious of fifteen or twenty miles in the same county. In other words all the judiciary oi the province will be in Prince County.

Hon. Mr. McGuigan: "The wise men don't come from the cast any longer”.

Premier Campbell; "Where do you come from?"

Dr. MaicMillan: "I came from Prince County too." (Laughter).

The speaker went on to discuss the federal health insurance sch- eme. group hospitalization, anc the health survey undertaken by the Canadian Medical Association in vwlleration with the Federal De- partment of Health.

Fishermen’! Loans

Referring to fishennenb loans. he notedueveral to the lvlt, Carmel Fisheries Ltd. He asked what that W215 I01‘.

Hon Mr. Cox: "To finance their

business. r-ri it ls all paid back except $2900." _.. Dr. Milcnfilillih! "I note Morris

Bernard Co. Is that a fishermens union?"

Mr. Cox: "It docs not make any difference. He was employing a tremendous lot of fishermen. We do that with firms of that kind."

Dr. MacMillan: “I thought per- haps it was because he was pre- sident of the Western Prince Lib- eral Association, or something like that." lLaughter).

Mr. Cox: “Politics has nothing to do with it."

Dr. MacMillan: "I wonder."

135611551118 ARI’. expencitures, MacMillan noted that m. Cox received $230 or more for mile.

88o. according to figures tabled.

Mr. Jones: "Can you find where his salary is?"

Dr. MacMill ; "1 “t. c tutu m" an m‘ m W“

Mr. Jones: "Can't find it." Dr MacMillan: “Well. he is get.

“I18 ‘something, because my hon. friend dicrrt do anything yet for

nothing.” (Laughter). Wllll regard to Palconwood Farm

Dr. MacMillan said he had one question which he have answered. When

would like to the farm mar agement rent away from this Province lo buy a pure bred bull,

anal came back with two cows, it requires an explanation."

Mr. ‘McKay: " ey sold two cows lo buy them."

Dr MacMlllan: "And I am told that lho cows they bought. were

not any hotter than the ones they sold "

in conclusion. he urged again the mportance of a new car ferry as

a war measure. "f hope it will not be forgotten when the adjourns, about this delegation to Ottawa regarding the car ferry." he

House

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Discussion Over P. E. I. Gar Ferry In Parliament

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spot with oanparatlvely little 1058 0i" ti!!!

to the Prince aawnu were lull} Itjgngtbypllylnflllllllldel

one; nobody realises that than r do. 1 nope 1w 011' .1“ “ll-l chamber or anywhere ell» Wlll W?" gest that the ls.and meuubers DBVB no; “n, ‘ll they can about it. If my hon. friend or anyone else can tell me of a boat toucked away in a bureau drawer 0011181711151- my boat which wecanbegborrowz o; areal, we shall have it. The taut is that such a boat 1118i» °°¢8 m

“is; 5b the present time as far as the technicians of the 01119511111 National Railways em lllld- m“ ms have put marine architects on malt very sendi-

ghlpplng Situation One word more. I want the oom- nflttgg to realize what the shipping situation is in Canada and 111 all: world. I cannot go into detaill. u I assure hon. member; that nobody knows better than I do how tight the nuppuig supply ls for the mevf-l ment of materials flllQ men. I W1 go u gar a‘, m-suy that tonight on the docks in Canada a lot N“; m, i; uwaitingshlpment to pOlDg where it would be extremely valuable in the war in which we; are all ensrsed- The I>°°Pl° ° Prince Edward Island are not £01118 w ask that, a, berth. now filled with a cargo boat which can carry llllll stuff, shall be vacated for the Plll- po” 0g building a ferry which will take, under present conditions. l- year or two lo build. The 5lilllflll°l1 may change. We hope thflt. 0X1 ‘account of the drive which is on. in lCanada and the United States DB1‘- tlctrlarly, for the building of cM8° ships. a berth may be released b6- (org very long. But I must make it clear that the drive is on in 1943-

rns cnannorrsroww cannot/sat

Tnatmlg the situation with ream‘- spec

Tthe people of Prince Edward Island

01 come when I shall fail to do my

with the Inst t ‘P6111: res to wovloin

ping ‘tfon of which I think are all retty well aware. uggest t is: This ship was built in the Davie shipyard The building

important consideration with re- t to the construction of this ship. 1 m, told by those who know that the capital cost of construc- ting s shipyard suitable for the building of a vessel similar to the Charlottetown would not be great. I admit that there are other con- siderations which would have mill- tated and may militate now if im- mediate action is not taken for the early construction of this ship: that is. getting the necessary machinery and priority.

The Charlottetown was lost in June. 1941, nearly two years ago. We have not yet reached the stage of even having planned for a new vessel. That is not good enough. The minister was right in his first conclusion when he wrote that let- ter to Mr. Vaughan in April. 1942. just under a vear ago, saying that a new ship would have to be built. There is no doubt s, to that.

I have no apology to make to this committee or the nation or

for having advocated publicly their interest on the floor of this house. and I hope the time will never

duty as a member of this house to any part of this dominion-

Dr. '1'. Y. GRANT

Dr. GRANT: I should’ have liked to thank the hon. member i0!‘ York-Sunbury for his remarks this afternoon in connection with our transportation system. had it not become evident early in his speech that he was nticmptlrll! to me the situation at Prince Etivrztrd Island to discredit the members ofpthis house coming from that Province. I fully endorse everything that has been raid by the minister for that province. the hon. nmnbel‘ f0!‘

I want the house to remember that. and. r know that the people of; Prince Edward Island. who have‘ shown their loyalty in the matter‘ or everything which has w do Wildly the carrying on of the war. wlll; recognize it as well In connection; with the building oi_a ferry o! this; sort, it ls not 5lfllply a mattfil‘ 0!‘ providing a berth and constructing!’ the hull. There is much more their, that Tonight, five hundred differ-y ent shops across Canada are en- gaged in the manufcture of com- ponents for shipping. Those are. stancard mas production

blues for a particular kind of ferry. such as this, and the manufacture of what may be special propellers. steering gear and instruments, you cut down perceptioly the output ol the escort boats and cargo ves- sels which are needed in the battle of the Atlantic. the biggest battle of 1943.

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Edward Island and the members of

this committee that we shall ex-

pedite in every way We DOS-filmy m"

the building of a ferrv which will

be adequate. in the words of my hon friend, to meet their needs;

a ferry better than the Charlotte- town, although I do not think I need have much hesitation in say- ing that she was probably the best ferry of her kind in the world.

The people of Prince Edward 1's- land rely on us to do our level best in connection with this matter. They want to be assured and they have a right to be assured that we are colng our level best. We rely on them to show the same loyalty and the some willingness to incon- viencc themselves, to make some sacrifice if necessary. as they have done in connection with other phases of our war effort. I believe that the reiance and dependence of one on the other will be quite sufficient, and will be fully justified.

Alr Service

One thing more. This is a mat- ter which has to do with more than exclusively the people of Prince Edward 1518110‘. I regard this ferry service as a national undertaking- I mean exactly what I say-nation- al because promised in the days gone by with regard to transport- ation services, that is that reason- able trunspoitation was to be given for the island itself; national in that Prince Edward Island as the crane 0f confederation had a right to some consideration with respect to transportation. It is national in more senses than that, because there are today two schools of the air training plan on Prince Edward Island and another is to he com- pleted before very long. 11hr those

ccm-‘I only want to point out that be- ponents, in order that all may be,i\vccn i930 nncl i935. when the hon. put in the same kind of ship. Whcnnzcmber you have to divert three or fourjmcmbcr of this house, a supporter m- five shops to the making of tur-‘ol the Emmett. government and a

Prince Eciivurd Island did not know that he existed. member of the Bennett government he never rose in his place in this house and complained people of Prince Edward were getting only six cents a bush- el for their asked Mr. Bennett to put a floor

Prince (Mr. Ralsionl: and in that connection I Should like to add that it would not look very 1116c 0r be very courteous to the minister if the private members from Prince Edward Island were to come from his office, after discussing the car ferry matte" and immediately ask

him questions about it in this house. Mr. HANSON (York-Sunburv):

You are hiding your light under a bushel.

Mr, GRANT: Well. before I om- through I will light your candle.

for York-Sunburv was a

part-little minister, the people of While he was s. that the Island

potatoes He never

measoffll ale otPrlnee Edward Island intuition-e- “M” u“

I l s06- ond ship. he minister has painted a picture with respect to the ship- we But I

of a shipyard in itself is not a very be

o! Prince MIN‘ Island or n Brunewlek pouttetotehl‘.

Hie nevu- oom

fact that pork sold in Prime Bd- wi-d Islam"; tot- oniy 1 1-2 cents e pound during that od. He never complained that ides were sold for twenty-five cents each. not twenty-five cents a pound. He never complained that eg s were ing sold at very low pr oes; he never complained that butter. on which he rode into power. was being used in Prince Edward Island for axle grease. The people of Prince Edward Island know all these things, and he will not deceive those people in the least. He tried that before on the island but all I had to do was to tell the people ust what I have sold tonlgh and ey were quite satisfied that every- thing was all right. The hon. gentle- man made a speech there justbe- fore the last provincial election and his own party said that was the reason why they lost the election. I have told the ple there that the hon. member or York-Sunbury made a mlstakewhen he did not take u mother calling. I raid I though the hon. gentleman should have joined the circus when he was a young man. taking the part of the fellow who never o ned his mouth without putting it. The people of Prince Edward Island will not be hoodwinked by any plerson in this house who at- temp to use the serious situation that exists there in order to get across to the people something that

may be of some help to the Tories “o6 FINISH‘! or that province.

Mr. s. 1.. mums f” W-lflhi/

lyfr. DOUGLAS (Queens): Some ' "' reference was made to Captain llll OGILVIE FLOUR MILLS (OMPANY llllllllD Read being superannuated alter

forty years of faithful service to from hon munbers and members

the public. I like to give credit when mutt l; due and 1 would of the cabinet hailing from the maritimes something about the

remind the hon. member for York- p

Sunbury that Captain Reac. navi- Prince Edward Island ferry. Per-

gated the icobreaker marl Grey naps I might add a word, because I visited Prince Edward Island in

which was sold to the Russian government during the last war. 194i. for the first time 1n my lite. that he piloted that bout safely It was a great privilege and a great across the Atlanticpceamwhlch was ‘pleasure. There may be other places infested with submarines. brought where hospitality abounds to the it safely to its destination and re- same extent. but there is no place tilrned home. Captain Read has in Canada where more hospitality been a very courteous official; and could be shown to one coming from though he made one mistake Just another province. Without engaging two years before reaching the age in the controversy with respect to oi retirement. I think we should be the ferry service. I wish to say that a little charitable. If the Canadian on my visit, and from Qommunjg. ations and personal contact since

National railways saw 119 lb 811115 Captain Read a pension, from the that time, I have learned something of the feeling of the people of

fund to which he contributed for many years. 1 think we should Prince Edwrd Island with respect forget about the whole matier- in- to this problem. stead of airing it again in public. If I may project myself into the The two ministers who have spok- debate tonight as one coming from en, the Minister of ‘Transport and one of the central provinces of the Minister of National Defence. Canada. I would say a word arising have, I believe, covered the other from my personal experience .in phases of the ear ferry situation. connection with transportation pro- We all feel that a new ferry would blems between Tormentine and‘ Borden. Sometimes people from

he acceptable. and‘ we hope to see one constructed at the very earliast other parts of Canada are too prone posslbe date. I am sure we can to think of Prince Edward Island entrust this to the apartment of as a far-distbnt province. As a Munitions and Suppy or the De- result they may not be sufficiently pai-iment of’ Transport, to be at- interested in t e problems of that tended to when the time is most island. But when the ‘people of suitable. that province call out through their Mr. Gordon Graydon government and through their re- M; QRAYDQN; Th]; “tel-noon sponsiblo citizens; when they call

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m-zons of which they can "hi: voices in their plea for better rrlffi: puftlltlml lac-titles between n“ island and the mainland. they u; not calling out for gomeflng 1n M, Cllllflll IO W115i] they rgqufl-g or 1 addition to what they are Qntjtk to. but rather they ask ‘gm y‘ Justice in a cause in respect of wril. _simpia justice must be given. One of the things whigh me most forcibly in going from m‘ mainland to the island and return. ins was the fact that trier-o ream,‘ to be such a perilous and slendel thread of communication between the island and other parts of Can. udn. I was there in the fall o1 u“ V881’. and one could not help enter. tuiniirg that thought when he r“ the many freight cars, the y.‘ lléil“.i‘“ t2‘ imrif“ ‘M “*1 um r o 1%‘ traxllsfijogawfill mobllq await: By o th flh who ra-lsed_ their voices igiaoetrppor-It“ the sozution of a problem whlq, been S0 ably presented. A; one central Canada may I slats th We- lflo- appreciate their problem We would like to help Prince E Wlml Island. and it is my hope t the discussion in thq commit“. b, day will contribute somoth h ward giving better transportatj for that magnificent portion or dominion, that province known affectionately in other part4 te

services it is just as essential as any other national undertaking and just as much a part of our‘ war effort Therefore I hone Lint,’ this committee will believe that ‘he

government is frilly alive to the necessity for providing the very best transportation facilities pos-

lslblc. in view of the cifflcultics that, surround us in these realistic times; We are fuly allio to that. not simply on account of the interests of a particular section of tho com-