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VOL. LXXVII. NO. 302

aanservatives Lose Bid To Adiourn Flag Debate

OTTAWA (CP) —— Creditiste MP Gilles Gregoire quoted Greek and Latin authors and reams of statistics in the Com- mons flag debate Tuesday to support his argument that Con- servative MPs have spoken :00

long.

Mr. Gregoire said the Com- mons has wasted 28 days in va- rious stages of the flag wars largely because the Conserve lives had abused freedom o speech and repeated their pleai lor a plebiscite endlessly to pre- vent the issue reaching a volt

Addressing himself to Oppos- tion Leader Diefenbaker (kept home with a cold) he quoted Cicero in Latin and translated

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ais opposing the motion were four Quebec Conservatives. eight Creditistes. 12 New Demo- crats and seven Social Credit

MP5.

The adjournment was sup- ported b Conservatives. Ralph Cowan tL—York-l-lum-

her) and Bert Leboe (SC—Cari- booi_

Horner said the flag (it!

Mr. ‘ bate should be set aside to open

the] way for the daily question period and study of government bills such as the labor code. railway changes and amend- ment of the constitution. Because of a quirk in Com- mons rules. the flag debate has

Mr. Gregoire compared Mr. Diefenbaker to a grave - digger who turns up bones. The bones represented the traditions oi Britain. which were dead in Canada.

He said it would be wrong 20! Parliament to order a flag ple- biscite. E l e c t e d representa- tives of the people had a duty to make decisions for their con- stituents.

He had counted 18 Conserva- tive MP5 who had made three speeches on the flag issue and two who had spoken four times The Word "plebiscite" had been uttered 4.081 times The debate had absorb 14.800 man-hours. counting the 265 MP5. the House.

CHARLO’ITETOWN, CANADA WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1964.

Debris Found In Hunt For 2 Missing Trowlers

WEATHER

Cloudy with snowflurries: cold; light winds. Low-high 8 and 20. Thursday:

cloudy and cold.

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Makes One Sighting-

. HALIF AX ‘CP) —- RC.‘\F.‘shcr of (fanso. NS Identities of search and rescue said Tuesday l h“ "9"” were W" hat"

. ‘ ’ h I _ h V6] The men on the Marie Carole inight "are pan“ .a were identified as Capt, Ed. .S'Ehlfd wreckage at two p“lmsimond Richard and crewmem— .off Nova Scotia where two fisha‘hers Alphonsp Doyle. pie", iing vessels With a total of-ill poiripn R0531“. Lapiem, and ‘Imen aboard have been missmg’Redger Cyr. Mi are [pheved ,for a week. from the Magdalen Islands.

l TWO RCAF 399W"? aircraft The search was started Dec. from SummerSide. P.E.I. sited 3_ one.day after a vicious wind ‘two pieces of debris—one with and snow storm hit the area

a flat! on it—“ miles east 0‘ where the Acadia Sea Hawk .Canso. NS. An RCAF floats was believed operating. it was equipped Albatross was di- expanded Monday when the 'verted to the scene but could Marie Carole was reported mis. :not land because of rough seas.sing,

‘and darkness. An air force Ar- A mm or ,3 plan” m

8118 in the 533M 3'93 repnrted ocean - escort Swansea: five .Slg‘htlng Six Pieces 0‘ bun'COl‘ other ships took part in the hunt ored lumber.” Tuesday‘

“We beneve this is the area The. Acadia Sea Hawk and the ,where the Marie Carole was'Marie Carole both were origin- :fishing," a spokesman said. The ally SCh€dUled ‘0 I‘Fllfl‘n t0 Pnl‘t ,82-foot craft. out of Quebec's‘flhjhe'r (Etc—m_'..md_..._ay' .._._ EMagdalen islands. carries five

’. .' nmen. C ' f Another Greenwood-based Aij—

i M gus reported sighting an oil

.slick and debris so miles south on Education

lof Sable Island. where search land rescue officials believe the

ifishing vessel Acadia Sea Hawk M G v’ {out of Muigrave. NS. disap‘ o t lpeared a week ago with 14 men

‘ahoard. ‘. . ‘ l . mm 1 The Canadian survey ship 21.;Sfdrh2yiiilznc’igym ehnight :

into French: “Howlon Will you “"99" "m the Que-“ion Del‘iud abuse of our patiencc?g. . How ‘0? the 135‘ seven Sittings- Com' Ething members 0‘ the me“ far will you carry your audac- mm“ rep‘lrls 5W“ ,35 the ""9 Debate and questions on the iiy"" . “commend‘nfl a smgle ’9 . flag added up to 1257600 words Mr. Gregoire lLapointel also maple 19"” “3g. mike pre""‘l""°‘3iuntil Monday night ‘he said tinled Greek poetry but did not “‘1‘”. the quesuomng 0‘ cabin“ ' "All madmen are 'not locked translate it. He said this was “"5"” up." he added amid applause “(ting since the Conservatives . Political observers could not from a public gallery. which is speeches were all Greek to him. irecaltl an instance when the forbidden. . V .ques ion period as been sus Marcel Lambert (PC — Ed- ” “071°” DEFEAT“ pended for so long. monton West). the 41st Conser- .lust before he spoke the The Conservatives first mu vative speaker in the latest Conservatives failed in their tion to adjourn the flag debate phase of the debate. accused second attempt to adjourn the was defeated 129 to 55 Thurs- Mr. Gregoire. of desiring to go! flag. debate foe the day, The day night. Standings in the the Conservatives. i motion by Jack Horner iPC—‘ Commons are Liberals 129. Con- "The braying of jackasses !s Acadia) was defeated 139 untes‘servatives 96, New Democrats the loudest noise in the barn- to I 18. Creditistes 13 and Social yard." he said in an obvious to Lining up With the 108 Liber- iCredit nine. ference to the Creditiste.

Minister Threatens Action On Furniture Deal Stories

OTTAWA tCP) — State Secre- any cabinet minister or MP had favorable consuleration to this tary Lamontagne said Tuesday received campaign contribu- payment pan. | . published reports concerning his tions from a Montreal firm now The urchases were mane N E L50 N CASTONGUAY personal furniture purchases in in bankruptcy proceedings. The from a firm headed by Max and! . . I (centre) Canada's chief elec- 1961 and 1963 include insinua- bankruptcy is being investi- Adolph Sefkind. Mr. Lamon-i im-ai Dimer and his stafif tions of improper dealings rated by the Quebec attorney tasne said he had been a friendl 9 Susan Petrie and Ron Stew: wimh are false. general’s office. of Max Sef’ki'nd since early‘ 9 seen in Chariouemwn

connection with the setting up of a provincial commission to decide on boundaries for the Province‘s federal clcctoral ridings. (See also story on page 1]).

Red Premier ' Seen Ousted

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art. or HP inld reporter-S after 8 f‘nh' Mr. Lamontagne told The. Ca-‘ H d I last nil hi. '1“ I ar here in lnei meenng he intends in "lake nadian Press that as soon as he “There. was' never any ques- l a . g e) e ‘ e myself mons order paper. he reported Lamontagne said. “Mr. Sefkind. I N b I B G The repogisi‘publitshedén Vat;i in prime Minister pearson that never received any fa v or i n i a n e n ' gigs”; 1W3: 99'“ l0 “‘9 “"93 "f‘edtlcation in the province met couver an oron o. 5 mm he had bought furniture from through me from the govern-i ,. . . ‘ ‘ *3 e 53“ - with] th b‘ I H i an. . OTTAWA ‘CPl~-Ll\'lng costs . By ROBERT BERRELLEZ I ' ° C“ "‘9‘ yesterday- mons order paper Nov 27 by my no favor. f t . -- . . . . e e n . , Donald Maclnms ‘PC _~_ Cape “:11an ‘ mm he ‘w muting afien‘gflonmwlgubgi high in November With the con- ist Premier Cheddi Jagan‘s Peo-i The ocean - escort Swansea ' mier Waller R Shaw said "ti Breton South). asking whetheg e mums“ we" made '19“ back to '~ hm" y imnert [glee t_index'itncreastngn I ple's progressive Party movedwas speeding to the. area east was a private talk with the *' ‘ ~ - ‘- ee-en s o a poin or one- . . V i . . . . ’British Guiana National Assem-ldrnpped Ioniz~burninz flares and. sirlch during the commission’s flangéégnrg‘rse {gmmtfxlz' and $3n31?tb2:$rlma‘ypggsmlee $32: from 135-6 3 mom-h “men Canada's chief electoral of- Mel boundaries commission in ibly election returns. But it ap-JSOnn buoy! 0" Wthh the Ship 00"”? 0f i"V€Sli23ii0fl-" rented at a rtment 'n M n . . . . . . . . . l . Plane Destroyed real afth a; Liberia“ 8)“ going too (at... tistics said Tuesday that the terday that the. fall of 1966 ap- sion Will be composed of four inhiain the majority required for The Canadian Coast Guard j public announcements to make paw” and he became a cabinet Lamontagne me: index at Nov. 1 was 1.4 per cen. pears the earliest that a fed- members and Mr. Castonguay him to retain the premiership Ship Montmorency was sent to “at present" but expects that . . - dex of 134 The index is based ter a readjustment of the rep- SlOl’I. The chief Justice of each . . . r ' some BS!) Hustler bomber car- real Outremont-St. Jean in the (Continued on page 5. 001- 7 m ~- - ~ - . - - ‘ Official returns from 23 out. of 1513m- “111 he dehw‘rt’d 10 th' 80% mng an unarmed nuclear bomb Commonl ong :94:f priges equalling 100 resentation of the provmces in groVince appomts a chairman .35 voting districts comprising 72‘ The 138 _ foot Acadia Sea 1. emmem “within a week" ~ “WAS PRIVATE CITIZEN" N B J d ponents of the index showed in- Nelson Castonguay who was 0‘ comm‘ms 1|Mom‘s the Other. l ‘ L' 'ted fM l v ‘ ' ’ ' f ill on a mm at the Bunker Hm _ . . t . ' . ,. I . _ _ cries Iml. o ugrave. “as missmns repor “i be made a... force phat Three airmenlmg‘ht: s13651”piirecllienseedeai‘r‘ioili‘nt- 0 o u creases. With the transportation in the pt'ovmce to meet With "V0 members 0‘ the Cnmmls' “‘6 Jaga" 79'5" mm :giozlsa'liskippered by Capt. Ronald Mar public “amu- cahinei study," i . . ma w en ~ .. 4. Col Paul K Carlton b85911 :85]; “will; Citizen." Thé DES index 0‘ average be“ on the setting up or an Mr casmnguay said Jan 25llighilressr‘rlggeshyBiighhgrfiposmonl ' ‘ ‘ n cc. 1 . be rented the . . . . . . I l ' Mmmandfl‘. emPhBSiZEd that’Montreal apartment because 0 in September compared 5‘0“, 581d “1‘ ‘5 very “nhkely °°mm'55‘°"3' . f d . ' h 81 It will be the duty of theforJatzgnitthe Premiershlnslyasl . . ex ‘03. [awe and Montreal and received 0 Ijre ericton lawyers Ralph 195 a year prcvmus' to. c anges In elector electoral boundaries commis-fexpec e 0 go o a coai ion‘ I d N B F p m“ and mat “0 harmful?!“ bill on Jan. 21' 1964‘ for the V. Limerick and DaVld M. Dick-l boundaries before that time sions to set the boundaries of headed by Burnham, a pro-i n ' '

all the actions needed to protect saw the question on the Oom- tion of a gift of any sort.“ Mr. i from a uesiion ut on Com- ' . . q p tth f‘rm' but mat it had m m in Canada rose to a recordl GEORGETOWN tAPi—Marx-‘Dflm’ FLARE-‘3 l FOH‘MVinz "l" meeting. 919' ig . . . i ‘ - i - - . .‘wben Mm Lamontagne fur. The minister'said any effort to fifth of one per cent to 135.9 mm the lead Tues“), mght "I‘M Gama Where we aircraft had mmmlssmn on matte" m Bomb-Carrying . . . . . . . real firm "seems to me to be The Dominion Bureau of Sta- ficer said in Charlottetown yes- each provmce. Each commis- peared certain he would fail toicnUld “hnmP- The premier said he mm M Whe Mr. . . - . .. PERU. 1nd. (AP)_A sumfi minister. He represents Mom_ reporters an”. the cabinet higher than the November. 1963. era] election could be held af- is a member of each commis- of ms Brmsh colony the area 30 miles sou”, of Sable the cnmmissionvs final ) caught fire and burned Tuesday seven main °°m' the House 0f commons' d the Speaker 0‘ the House ‘per cent of the registered votelHaWk- working {0" Acadia “Sh'l Prt‘ml" Shaw said the “"m’ were injured. index unchanged. Chief Justice Thane A. Camp- Sion- “9 for the people's N - electoral boundaries commis- is the deadline for naming the: 8 P L H H I . f :10?ng wages and “lanes was ' In the absence of a majority} ll e there was no danger of nuclear his frequent trips between Ot- OTTAWA ‘CPl‘APPOimmentlwith 203 a month earlier and ghat poutical Dame? mum ad‘ l ' U radiation ws . . . Th. ‘ , . . . . s releaged tuna] amount of $5_055_ son to the Supreme Court of 9 "member {00d Index rose and consequently any federal electoral districts Within the wager“ socialist. Burn h am 1

“Wm” "‘9 3"” “"‘Sl .. New Brunswick was announcedl “’"r'll’ihs 0‘ 0'1“ P" 09'" ‘0 132 election in the meantime would rovinces Mr Castongua said FREDERICTON (cpl .— AI hic levcs w n (2 {ggagfltle‘except those who foughtimcfipfedbafimgfi’; hfaglxeafi'; Tuesday by Justice Ministerl fmm 13‘ in OCWber- Prices belcarl‘ied 01” under Preset!t :He said. that in someyareas “’35 “peeled l“ 10'".f"rcesv‘."th‘ Eighteen persons were lcftlof ‘Capitai The cause at the mishap m added. The Bank of Montreal reau. ' . _ were higher for eggs. lard. beef, legislatlomn commissmns are gomg to the ultra-Conservative Lnited‘homeless here Tuesday when was renamed in satisfactory the mum . million . dollar SAC was appoint“! to collect the out- Mr‘ Just"? L‘mend“ 9d“ oranges. pot atoes, tomatoes, Federal legislation provides have quite a problem." Force to marshal a bare ma-ja two-alarm flfe ripped throughlmndmnn in hngpita] he” Tm. alert plane was not learned im. finding accounts and in MaI‘Ch Elite; ggaghewafieymimgswglf celery, dairy products and for the setting up of an elec- (Continued on page 5. col. fil1jority in the assembly. lg‘s’sbuéliggigci m (1215:5351: b31552 da‘, night su‘nering "a Redizhilsxig:gngohmc:gngg 3::yfeiiihnialgogliaygnfiifalgsflwas); D681 Judge‘. 0f the SupremB honey' Low" prices we“ {9'} ,‘and heavily damaging thelburns." It was believed he fell Mrs would be appninmd in month, .Court. He fills a vacancy cre- ported for sugar. grapefruit,i 0 “other. ' y ‘ v. d.afier the scraper hehwas using ‘9“ .__: The bank said it would give laled recently when Mr. Justice bananas, appies, lettuce, cab.l I S a . Three busmcsses item “may came m contact Wit a power A. J. Cormier of the New Bruns-| iout and two others damaged in llflf‘. 1 ' Portions of the city. includinl

wick Appeal Court was a - balge' onions' canned flu” and Ithe ate afternoon blaze which

roke out in a half-block area of the Beaverbrook Hotel and MOI

vegetables and fresh and cured office, were Without power it!

Tremblay Explains

Furniture

OTTAWA (CP) — Citizenship Minister Tremblay Tuesda y gave details of a furniture pur- chase by him which he said has been the subject of rumors in- volving his deputy minister of industry be- :srfiggs election to Parliament

Hf! told a press conference buying about $4000 worth of Italian- and French-style furni- ture for his Quebec City home from a company now bankrupt.

He identified as part of that N""l‘nn)’ Max Sefkind nd sat Mr. Sefkind also was part of

actions as Quebec it

Purchase

another firm. Rec-Stone. which received a $600,000 or $700,000 loan from in Quebec municipal- ity after he and two other One bec deputy ministers sanctioned

Mr. Tremblay said he had re- ceived no gifts. furniture or money. from the furniture com-

f pany. Futurama. made no down

payment pending receipt of the full order and the total bill and, finally. paid for the outstanding amount after uturama went into bankruptcy. late in 1963 or early in 1964.

CORRECTS HIMSELF

He said. in reply to a ques- tion. he had discussed the mat- ter with Prime Minister Pear- son but. when asked the date of this talk. corrected himself to say his discussion had been with State Secretary Lamon- tagne and Mr. Lamontagne spoke to the prime minister.

Mr. Tremblay said he made the Futurema purchase after seeing furniture in the home

years. Gerard Levesque.

He later identified Mr. Le- vesque as having acted on be- half of Rec-Stone Corporation— another of Mr. Sefkind's ‘nte'~ eats—in obtaining a loan from the municipality of Ville d'An- ion. The loan application was investigated and approved by three provincial government de- p to, including the one of which Mr. Tremblay was (1090!?

minister. He said he met Mr Sefktnd

P pointed chief justice of the Court of Queen's Bench division of the Supreme Court.

Mr. Justice Dickson was at» pointed a judge of the Court of Queen‘s Bench. replacing Mr. Justice C. J. Jones. who has

resigned. He was admitted to the New Brunswick Bar in 1947.

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A comrade of Fidel Castro's guerrilla days. Augusto Mer- ilnez. shot himself in held Tuesday after being fir- ed as labor minister. a gov-

t -ernment communique said.

He was in critical condition. He fought at Castro's side and later became defence mints tar. The communique uh!

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f . the orovlnccv would share the

pork.

A rise of one per cent. in the housing index increased it to l39.3 from 139.2. Both the shel- ter and the household opera- tion components increased frac- tionally.

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WASHINGTON lAPi—Presi- dent Johnson a nd Britain's Prime Minister Wilson searched Tuesday for a satisfactory way Ito bring about a major reshuf- 'fling of the Western world's nu- clear defences, but 'wound up

‘ saying further discussions are

necessary. ' The president and prime min- ister concluded two days of con- ferences. and then said. in a

1 joint communique. that they

agreed that the objective. with respect to nuclear defence. is: "To co-operate in finding the arrangements whidi best meet the legitimate interests of . members of the (Atlantic) alli- ance. while maintaining existing safeguards on the use of nuclear weapons. and preventing their further proliferation." e that. while it number of elements of this

prob! . considered in what they called an initial ex-

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he was fired because 0 “serious administrative mis— takes but- which in no way af- fected his personal. moral and revolutionary honor and un- questionable loyalty to our cause." I Washington offl- cials new signs of a critical power struggle within the Castro regime.

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vinces have agreed to share. the cost of improving buildings at the Halifax School for the Blind. president H.L. Roper of the

change of views. this was "a preliminary to further diSciis- sions among interested mem-

VISITS CANADA TODAY Wilson today visits Prime. Minister Pearson in Ottawa. ‘ Some of the points in the comfi munique: l I. They voiced again a deier-, mlnation to support United Na? tions peace-keeping operations. and to strengthen systems of re- gional alliance in Europe. 'hn Middle East. and the Far East —NATO. CENTO and SEATO.

2 They spoke of an urgency for progress on arms contrii and disarmament.

3. They agreed on a need for improvement in the balance of payments. and in the produ.-tl- vity and competitive position of both nations. so as to bolster economic strength. which they said is vital to fulfilling hcavy international responsibilities. NATO PRIME TOPIC ~

NATO and a proposcd multilateral nuclear force Wcro the prime topics of the Johnson- Wilson talks.

On this they said:

"They recognized the impor- tance of strengthening the At- lantic alliance in its strategic. nuclear defence. They discussed existing proposals for this pur- pM and an outline of some

school's board of said Tuesday.

He said in his annual report a plan originated in l983 provided

managers

estimated 3520.000 cost by an- nual grants over a five-veer pe-

iod beginning in the fiscal year. emu. I

The amount of each grant by the av- erage percentage of pupils each province had in the enrol- ment during the previous five years.

INSIDE TODAY ‘

Births. deaths 3. It Classified M. 15 Comics . ...... .. 13

. . It Women's , . . . . 0

Finance. moi-Irate i:

new proposals presented by the 5‘ man scraping snow from root of one of the buildings fell dress shop;

. ,, “They agreed that the objec- .bers of the alliance. .Continued on page 1 3

PRESIDENT JOHNSON

Harold Wilson goodbye outv

side the Whitq‘llouu Tuesday H

b - ‘ Regent street. apartments were also destroy- s a S c u e ed. An estimate of damage was ' ° not immediately available.

There were no injuries but a ‘ and-a-half storey Ramey build- the ing containing Eda's Place.