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LibeiraliRec-ord

" Scored In Debate

Opposition Criticism Answered

By Comparison Of Conditions Under Liberal Rule. Debate Con- tinued By, Messrs. McIntyre, Strong, Larabee, McNutt, J .A. Campbell,“ And"*Hon. Walter MacKenzie".

Good progress was made yel- terday afternoon and evenin! l"

tion- lie thoroughly approved of the tender system and hoped the

the Budget debate in the Legislat- Government would continue to ure, where the record of the Stew- practise this method. art Government, criticised by the The Conservative ore-election

platform was reviewed by Mr. Mc- Intyre. A promise to push for a subsidy settlement at Ottawa had been made by Premier Stewart. That was six months ago and the Premier had not implemented his promise yet. “Possibly if we give him time he may be able to im- plement that plank in his pict- form but so far he has not done so." Mr. McIntyre added.

The abolition of the School Sup- ply Department was strongly urged upon the Government by the

Opposition, was contrasted by Government supporters with the record of the Liberal administration amid applause from Conservative benches. The speakers. in order named, were Messrs. J. P. Mc- Intyre (Lib.. Second Kings), Heath Strong. K. C. (Con., Fourth Prince) J. J. Larabeo (Lib., Fourth Queens), Thomas MacNutt. (Cons, Third Prince), -:. s. campbell (Lib., Fourth Kings). and Hon. Walter MacKenzie. The latter speaker moved the adjournment,

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i McIntyre, who said the senior mem-

and the House adjourned until 10 a. m. today. ' Continuing the debate at yes-

speaker. Hon. Mr. Stewart: “Why didn't you abolish it?"

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‘THE CHARLOTTE’ FOWN GUARDIAN

mo‘, prophet» Necessary Employmml

‘the Conservatives, provincial!!- h“ some in with “not too bi! 3 majority" and a little over a hund- rred votes would put the Liberals back, an. McIntyre thought. Continuing to read from the Con- servative election Pllimim- MT- Mc‘ mtyre was challenged by the Op- pmltlon members to “read your own" other statements quoted by Mr.‘ McIntyre were from The Guardian of 1930 and had reloreiloe to the Federal election campaign of that year. ‘ Medical "attendance at the Iildlilll Reservation was referred to by Mr.

The services of men slifllcisntly well on’ to possess a truck hsd to be engaged by the Government in or- der to enable the poorer ien to get work on the gravel pits under the unemployment grant, Mr. Strong pointed out in defence of the Con- servative policy of distributing the work under the federal grant.

Mr. Mc1ntyre‘s statements not- withstanding, Mr. Strong insisted that there had been political road- work undertaken during the last provincial campaign. Mr. McIntyre stated he had written to the high. way superintendent, but perhaps ber for Charlottetown did this work these msirucuilns hm 11°?! 590i! 1'6-

the British potato embargo. Mr. m. 1g’; "a mug-lg; “A lime strong eoid- ‘smaller margin would have put the

The importance of the nouliry , hon. member from rtustlcc in the and silver fox industries was also gppogmm 1915a». ab“ haughty strongly emphasized. The Minister h, "m, "It would havg put several of Agriculture, the Hon.‘ Mr. Sharp, is President of the Canad- inn National Fox Breeders As- socii1ti0n. Mr. Sharp cited the pub- licty which the fox industry and. incidentally, this Province, had re- ceived through the co-operation of the Assocation at the great British Industries 'Fair. He also dealt with the prospectlfof the fox industry and emphasized the con- tinued necessity of breeding for quality.

that question."

Works portfolio with the propel’ f man, and they were in no doubt u,

‘belonged. Mr. Strong said in con- clullon.

1m W“, and his trip cost more ceived. In Fourth Prince;- Mr. than h, the work had been given Strong had reason to believe the‘ to some doctor nearer the scene. Liberals got “u the wmk 3nd 31° i Hon. Dr. McMillan: “HOW does the bill compare with the bill under the Lhehal Government?" 'I'l-le Opposition leader had neg- Mn McIntyre: “I hm hm giving Zected his duty, Mr. Strong charg- you the‘ statement o: the mp5 “om ed, 1n the Fourth District of Mince. Charlottetown." Inc cued numerous kistmces °I “on. m‘ hmchnuan: “Rh us ivork which should have been at- what the service cost the year he_ tended to in the D‘strict and which had been neglected under Liberal

fol-e?" M,‘ Monty": “I am ‘not d.scu5h_ rule. Mr. Mclntyreb criticism with mg that’, respect to securing federal financial

aid was dealt with.

The only money the hon. meill-i be? had ever obtained during his‘ term cf office was the $90,000 that i the Hon. R. B. Bennett gave Mr.‘ McIntyre when the Bennett Gov- ernment took over the reins at Ot- tawa.

Continuing the‘ debate at the evening session, Mr. Strong ex- pressedregretthat the Liberal Ex-

Mr. McIntyre complained that he ilad been unable to get the cost of the concrete road work done at Ilillsboro Bridge under the unem- ploy-merit grant.

I; will be necessary, he predicted, for this Government to borrow money for road graveiling, just as the Liberals had done, despite the Conservative contention that money

Conservatives did not get a. chance the conditions prevailing in Sum- to commute their taxes. nnersidc prior to the election. The

["Bucket of Blood” and rum_ had

I Mr. Strong:

‘know what the conditions were at ' 9d "m" “Fund and mm 7'1""

Referring to n enforcc- Mm I. I.’ 1A3!“

ment. Mr. Strong “answered the

Opposition criticism by exposing m‘ J‘ ‘L ' b

1V|'.r. Strong, congratulated the ‘ speaker and referred iittilfily to the death of Hon. P. A. Scul-ly and Hon. Leonard McNeilh » Admitting that thelbiberalrhad spent "considerable nroney" durinl their term of office, Mr. 15011000 - maintained that these expenditures were justified and 011011011891! m‘ conservatives to name any 619m‘ dltures which should not have been made. He instanoed roads and bridge work done by the Liberal! l"

"Speakeasy" which had been re- fen-ed to by Mr. Allen as having been a scene of disturbance rec- ently, under his (Mr. Allen's) gov- ernment had been called the

been openly sold by the glass. "Up- stuirs was the apartment of his friend Shaky Toad, whose affi- davit my hon. friend procurcd and produced in this House. That was the condition." his own oonsiituenoy- , Mr. Allen: “You seem to know." Wm‘ "Nd w mm- w‘ w‘ “I was Stipendiary I T3599 belmved that the“ w“ m’. Magistrate, and I certainly do :50 “lifeline m the 75m“ “tam-

Bci-h kinds gave satisfaction in his district.

that time." (Applause).

Conditions Compared products was referred to.

ma‘ low price of agricultural ‘this

ing still further for a removal of Stmng tuniedwbeiunies by ciHIlI-‘QHIBCI- addict-tho’ linemen have

thewcrk. Nallmflilcnnmials"

(Applause)

w. IoNutt warmly lbwoved of to the political party MIMI!!! h! the appointment ‘Of HOD- DI‘. Mac- linlian to the col-trolls of Public

Health Education. .

are. The Government's ambition in this regard, he thought, should be such that it can be said of them as was said of the Confederation

giride, they bullded better than they knew." ‘ ' i

In conclusion Mr..MbNutt dealt eloquently with the reputation and record of his District which was one, he laid. of which any representat- ive might wall be prmld

"There is one we will have other members 0n thlt side of N10 to out out.” lb‘, lfeliuttecontlnued. House out in the cold. So I think "mat is the lflpllll of sol!!! and honors are pretty nearly even oifextravagant highways as monu- menis to our public men- If menu-j ‘Th! People in Surnmeiside were meats are to be built, I think they quite able to fill the vacant Public mquld ha phced in our cemeteries."

Critioimihadbceuofferedtothe . i

direct the Conservatives had not implmQAIQG their election plat- form. IkJMeNutt was confident that attire Dppoflune time every plank in that‘ platform will be im- M it“??? star, giving the ncmiuiciui the the Government to rebuild. in a menneradaqucie w the needs of today and of future generations as well, the public buildings which have Ncently been destroyed by

Fathers: .“Providenos being their

Mr. McIntyre: “I will admit that we should have abolished it, be.- cause I don't think it is of any use. It is going in debt every year and you can get school books in any store just as cheap, or cheap- er. It is only a white elephant and my advice to the Government is to abolish it."

Reviewing bther Conservative election planks Mr. "McIntyre de-

terday afternoon's session, Mkzlidc- Intyre said it had been nec- essary for the last Liberal Gov- ernment to initlate a new told. system to meet the increased de- mend for goodaosds at- bhipping points and elsewhere. The Gov- ernment, after due consideration. divided the Province into twenty- five road divisions, placed a high- way superintendent in charge of

but permanent work.

Charges Ilxiravagancc

chasing Agent and purchasing new

must not be borrowed for anything

The criticism of the condition of the Liberal asphalt street; work on Malpeque ‘Road, prior to election, was assailed by Mr. McIntyre. He also charged the Government with extravagance in employing a Pur-

Ministcr of Public Works had left‘ his seat immediately after his speech. Ho was going to ask Mr. McIntyre about the letter he had issued to the road superintendents; He was also going to ask him if he: had warned the hon. member from‘ Rustico (Mr. LePage) about writ- ing letters. Mr. Strong instanced a’ letter which he (Mr. LePage) hndi written and which Mr. Bethune

Mr. Strong reviewed trenchantly the conditions prevailing in Prince County Jail under the Liberal ad- ministration.

The fiasco of the Montreal de- tective. brought here and sent home again after he had uncover- ed evidence which would have re- sulted in the conviction of sev- eral leading bootleggers, was re- ferred to.

brought the speaker. to the tariff question and to the subject of Recl- procity.

If anyone needed Pmwcim W“? it was the farmers and not "i0 millionaire manufacturers, he said.

Mr. Larabee cited prices previous- ly paid for farm eonmodii-ies end the more reasonable rates at which farm implements eouldthen be W1‘- chased. Premier Bennett's "hlutlns

MR.J-A.OAMPBEIL

Congratulations were tendered the speaker by Mr. J. A. Campbell, (Iiloirrth Kings), who. after. intre- ductcry‘ remarks, said that the period previous to 1027. when the Conservatives were in power and when money wag plentiful. was the time lniylllch our financial con-

each division and equipped him with a road grading machine. This method, Mr. McIntyre believed, would have been followed by the Conservatives had they been in power at that time. In addition to the heavy graders, six 30 h.p. trac- tors were purchased, and with this equipment, the Liberal Govern- ment in three years widened 909 miles of road and machined over 2,700 miles.

Credit for the initiation of a practical road gravelling policy was takm by Mr. McIntyre. At that timb‘ the Liberal Government did not know that there was any gravel in the Province that would be use on the roads. They called for "endefifiltrfiifi? ‘iidt bfiibifly offers to supply gravel for one year. The Government was almost fo to give a three year con-

. They did, however, have en- ginegs from the Department of Mines, Ottawa, come here and survey the gravel pits. The money granted each year for road grav- elling was only sufficient to meet the contract requirements, so that no money was available to open gravel pits. Shore gravel was how- ever, used to some extent. When the three year's graveling pro- gram was up and the contracts expired. more attention was given to local gravel. This method, Mr. McIntyre contended, was unavoid- able in the circumstances.

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Road Gravellng

The gravel placed by the Con- servatives, Mr. McIntyre contend- ed, was cf less value inasmuch as it wssinot pure gravel and would not be as permanent as the inl- portedmaterial. The small ‘cost under the Conservatives was idue to it havingbeenplaced near the pit. If they had to transport it from Nova Scotia, as the Liberals did. the cost would have been much greater.

In some cases, Mr. McIntyre admitted. the cost. of gravel placed on the roads under the Liberals was $4.00 a ton. in other cases it was under 88.00.

‘fliers was no reason why Pal-

ecnwood and other Government! 5"- MI- 5"" 1i "I hove no

institutions should not be oper- ated at a less cost than lash year. Mr. McIntyre continued: because living expenses had declined 20 per cent and in some cases 50 per cent.

Mr. McIntyre quoted a letter sent out by the Public Works on June 30,

ents against unwarranted expend- ftures during the election feath- paign. Despite every precaution. he said, it was difficulV-toldvoid election expenditures onlfhlikrcadi as "the people ‘nsisted on “‘ them."

Continulnl. Mr. McIntyre said he regretted to learn that tenc- ers had not been called for ra- planking Hiilaboro Bridge.

Mr. McIntyre Corrected l

' tives for which there was no ex-

ciared that these pledges contain- ed "nothing new." The Liberals had already given attention to the secondary roads, amended the Road Act to provde for statute labor, given crrf-rcemerlt to the Prohibition Law, etc.

Crlticises Enforcement

The present enforcement of the Prohibition law Mr. McIntyre thought was disgraceful. Men had come into the Provincial Building drunk, he charged; and this was happening "every day." Two elections had already been won by the Conservatives on Old Age Pensions, Mr. McIntyre main-.. tallied. Notwithstanding this they had made no move to ‘ plemelitf their promise. He understood that other Provinces were taking ad- vantage of the Federal increase to ‘l5 per cent of the total payment, but this Government had not stirred a finger. _ Fishermen today. MF- M01119?“ continued. are in the same predica- ment as are farmers, and not much can be done for the industry un- less world markets are opened up. The present condition the speaker blamed on high protective tariffs. Admitting that the unemploy- ment relief money was difficult to handle, Mr. McIntyre maintained ‘ there had been political discrim- ination shown under the Conserva-

cuae. The Conservative leader was criticised by Mr. McIntyre for hav- ing implied in the election cam- paign that the Liberals had in- creased the interest charges on the debt by 100 per cent. This, he de- clared. was a misrepresentation. In 1928 the combined interest was‘ tllflfrlLw-nct $70,000 as the peo-E pie were led tc behave; rin in--' crease since 1922 of $48,201.71. This‘ represented the amount the Con- servatives had increased the inter- est. The Liberals, on the other hand. had only increased the in- tel-est by $35,306.08 during their term of office. Mr. McIntyre offer- ed to table these figures if the

Department of 1881. cautioning highway auperintendi-

_‘ Inca was shown by the speaker to

‘ would be no need for this borrow-

' kept its promises. Mr. McIntyre

Premier wished.

doubt you would. But I prefer to get my figures out of the blue books."

Debentures Issue li

The Government's debenture issue| to pay bank overdraft and rebuild pllilic buildings was criticised by‘, m. McIntyre. The Liberals, on the‘ Qother Mild hid been justified in then‘ borrowing, he said, because thw found a new source of revenue in the Domicile Companies Act.

" The per ca/pita debt of the Prov-

be the lowm of any Province in Canada: also we have fewer munici- pal debtl. That did not Justify the 170ml"!!! 0f 81.000000 and there ing if the Bennett Government had

thought. We would have plenty of

had read in the House-a letter in I which Mr. LePage had promised political plums to an elector if he voted the right way. The Lib- erals had talked about disgraceful incidents. "If ever there was a dis- graceful incident it was that letter, written by the member from Rus- tico and read on the floor of this House," declared the speaker._

Mr. Strong wished to remind the Elf-Minister that under Liberal regime the Fourth District oi‘

Zi‘£$;.2.i“.‘;i§1..2f.§‘.°°.‘f.f¢. ‘i:

occasion, to two Prohibition officers . i» u». ii m sll=zttzzzziezzzlllmzzcizlazi “me at sows‘ ms rderence had under the Liberal regimeyand which been to a, Prohibition officer and a h” n“ been Dtrmghtened out _‘ fidtfilliifitt“i.f‘éfi.iliiiiii- ciao-boo vino» on o- n t . ‘road-to Borden. formerly a very grea er expense, he said, than was dun em s Md the case under the Liberals. g “ “m” w“ ° m‘ ‘m’ other instance. This road had been improved since tile Conservatives came into power. l Mr. Lee's violent campaign against the "lawyers" in the last election, was referred to. He, Mr.

cars. ..Hon. Dr. Macmillan: “Do you think I ought to have one?"

Mr. McIntyre: “I think you ought and I think you'll buy one."

The removal of the gravel on Queen Square and the permanent paving cf the square was also con- demned by Mr. McIntyre as ex- travagance. Trips of Government members to and from Ottawa were referred to slightingly.

Mr. McIntyre said he hadbeen

MB. HEATH STRONG

Replying to seine criticism of the Opposition. Mr. Heath Strong (Fourth Prince) scored the sugges-

tion of Mr. L. R. Allen that the Premier's car should have been charged up to “technical education." Mr. Strong was surprised at this suggestion, but he recalled, on an- other occasion that a school of whales had been stranded in Prince County and the Liberals had charg-

Lea, had four lawyers in his party and it was not their fault that they were not all elected like the mem- ber for 1st. Prince, in whose dis- trict $83,000 was expended last year. ‘ Mr. Lea had also stated to Mr. Strong in the election campaign,

“Those cases," said Mr. Strong, “were adjourned i0 Charlotte- town. The bootleggers all canle down on one train in the mom- ing; they called it the bootleggers‘ train; and they went back again in the evening, quite happy. There had been no trial.

“That detective," Mr. Strong charged, “had them iill cold. He had the biggest bootlegger in the _town cold; and they knew itwBut they let him go, and that bootleg- ger was llevcr caught under Lib- eral rule. At the time Mr. Sharp ran his by-election against Mr. Campbell. that same bootlegger went and drove voters to the Port- age Poll on election day. Further than that, he was never fined un- til the other day under this Gov- ernment, when he was convicted and fined $400.

Mr. Lea: “That must have been the second offence."

Mr. Strong: "All this time my hon. friend from Rustico was ‘standing by'. They dismissed all these cases right under his eyes. The hon. gentleman told us the other night that they drink whis- key by the glass down in Rustico. ‘ I don't know about Rustico, but I do say that if he wouldn't ‘stand by' so much and got busy he would get some of these fellows behind

powder" had been of no benefit $0 our farmers. he maintained.

The low price of eggs was referr- ed to especially by the speak“. who said this product should now be sell'ng at 40 cents a dozen.

The conservative platform had been largely borrowed from the Liberal policies, Mr. mrcabee main- tained. Their promise to enforce Prohibition had not been cal-rled out. He IIISlZBJICGd the disturbance in the jails. The Government had svcn had a fire in one 0! Q19 10118. 9'51“

public buildings." Mr. I-ereboe added that he did not wish- to ‘blame the Government for the P's-l- conwocd and College fres.

The Iihlconwood fire invesflgatim had revealed only one thing-Mill there was uMEICGBDOSS on some- body's part. When the firemen had arrived certain members of the staff who should have been on duty could not be folmd.

Mr. Laralbee disapproved of the appointment of a Purchasing Agent

placing the temptoti to “will? within any pal-soul's power. ‘rho agent appointed, he said, had been a‘ strong Conservative worker.

MR. THOMIAC MONUTT

same as they llawin nnrlynll their:

and enlarged in the dangers of °

ditlbu flhould havebem mauled with.

~ Tile farmers would sooner pay a

reasonable tax than see the Prov- ibcs go bankrupt, he thought. Yet during the years the farmers were able to Ply their tanesthe Con- servatives had reduced tapes to the extent of $800,000.

Campwll defended the poll tax and regretted the opposition to it by the Conservatives.

Iftberceverwssatimeinthe of tbs Province when our clgtzmgrslrclrld be pressed upon the Governlment it was at this ‘psi-tabular time, Mr. Campbell continued. (applause from m. 10' Page). ‘the femurs were encouraged to believe that this would be done. he declared.

If the conservatives can now eccnonfze on road dxpenditurcl. they can give the credit to the Irkacral Government which had done so much excellent work on the roads during the past foul‘ years. | He would not be surprised if eomo i f the i ervatives were afraid to go to bed at night, Mr.‘Canlp- ball said, for fear they might see m, gi-lostscr people to whom they had promised old age pension-l.