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Tlon, Leaver o¥ rus Goveanment —Hon, members of the Opposition seem to think that the Jail is the Proper piace for » man who cannot pay his ereditors. ut s man may be pus ed into Jail without a weck’s nutice to took weround, and consequently cannot meet the Cewands which are made upon him, Let the ereditors tuhe security when the debt is contracted, then they wl be safe If this Bl passes it would do away with be limits altoge her; aud a aan may swear out under the Lusolvent Debror Act. I sbouid be sorry to see such asweepig measure as this pass Tins bill would bring im plemty of fees to the lawyers, at every move the poor mau would make,atter which one creditor would get everything If a man is tobe wound up in his business, surely every creditor should share alike.

Mr. lloware —Mr. Speaker, is appears to me that there ix some teed of w law being passed to regui:ste these malters, but this bill would give all a man ha: to one dreditor, llow da the people af che United © ates, Which is one of the greatest business countries in the world, do? There is no imprisonment for debt there. How do their creditors act?

Mr. Bueckex.—The lion Leader of the Government | need not be afraid of the Lawyer's lining their pockets 12 an in-o'vent debtor's case. The Unted states have! laws which we have vot. If a ereditor finds that his! debtor hus laid away his property, be can come iv and | seize everything atouee. Bat Lam uot particular about this Bul. Mr. Spesker. imprisonment for debt exists} bere, but it is a question whether a creditor should Le allowed to imprisya a debtor, unless he finds that he is.

ping to leave the country. The effect of this Bill is merely where a debtor has the means of paying his ereditore, [fa man has jud.ment taken against hia, he | wom the limits, and if the eredtor sup. ores that the man has property, the debter is brought before the judge | eud is subantted to on examination. If he bas mney this bill would step in and send him to jail, ucless he |

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gives it up to hia ecdtor, About two monchg before | wis Legislature met. L suggested the necessity of send- tog co the United States tur a copy of their laws on the subject. Sineo | bave jovked into the matter, strange | to say, [ fied that two or three years ago, a bill was | passed in New Brunswick just the same as that now |

| sume Bankruptcy Liw as they have in Canada and tbe

United States, Weare no wiser than the people of

‘will vote against the present Bill.

A message was received from the Legislative Council

‘stating that the Bill to regulate the Salaries of the At~

torney Geveral and Solicitor General bad bevn agreed to by that branch of the Legislature.

Hon. Lxapen or vur Oveositicn.—lI was going to make a few observations, as"1 find that some bon. mem- bers have altered their views on this question. Suppos- ing we had a Baukraptey Law to-morrow, there would

still be a weed of the ordinary law of debtor and creditor. |

It would stil! be necessary for Bankrupta to cross the * Herring Pond,’ 10 go through the Bankraptey Court of Great Britain, aud get a certificate which would app!y to all Ler Majesty's donmnions,

Hou. Mr. Howran.—lf we passed a law the same as that of the Dowimion, wou!d not that suit our case ?

Hon, Leaner oe Tak Opeosrrion.—Lf a Baukrupt-|

ev Law were passed here, our certiticates would be of no avail in Nova Scotia or aay other country. When this

is known it will ereate a great deal of disappointment | amons those who are ander the false impression that a |

Biukruptey Law will discharge their debts wher- ever they have been contracted. They shall still have to go to kK

freedom trom their debts wherever the British flag waves. | Hon. Mr. Gowran. —If there were stx months allow: | ‘ed a Bankrupt. and he were after that to proceed to |

England, the Bankrupt Law would not then assist him

Hos. Lesser or rae Opposition. —~We can ouly pass.

a jaw whieh will give a discharyze tor debts coutracred

in PB. Island, and which would be of no avail in other}

countries. Hon. members who are very avxious about this luw are under a false impression in regard to tt.

To say that Prince Kiward Island could pass a Jaw) iwhich would effect all the irovinees is quite ridiculous

The statement that we shali have a Baukruptey Law ts

no orgumest agzacust the Bill at preseut coder gousidera- |

tion.

Mr. Rettry.—If a debtor give up his property, is he |

discharged from the limits under this Bill?

Hon. Leaper oF rue UOpvosition,— This Bill wil! not deprive au bouest aan of his liberty. 1 shall support the motion that this House go into Cowmittee ou the whole, to take the Bill into consideration,

Resolved, That the Debate be now adjourned,

House ad;ourued.

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Ingiand, to get a cer ificate to have |

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sttil retain him iv custody. The Act of last year allows |the creditor to seize any money the debtor may have,

‘these parts are, and therefore I do hope that the com- ,and to put his lands inte his packets to fiad it. As | wittee will bring forward a trauscript of that Act. [said to the forengou, it was hard to say that since the practicable.

) watter of a bankrupt Jaw was mentioned bere in 1852 or $853, no action was since taken to have such a Law ‘placed upon our statutes, At that time a bil) wus brought in, aud io preveut basty legislation, it Was sent | to the covutry, ana surely vow after the lapse of so many ‘years a bill of that nature might be brouzhs forward. With respect to the lnsolveacy Act it would not release ‘the debtor from the ercditor abroad, but if sach a court was established here, and it was shewnu that the estate of the debtor would only realize three or four shillings | to the pound, is it hkely that any geptieman in Ureat | Britain, the United States or the Colonics would refuse a dividend? I mention this to shew that although the law could not release the debtor from the creditors abroad, yet they would Lely accept a dividend and re- ‘lease the debror; bat under this bill the creditor in this Island could take alla man had to the detriment of those ‘abroad. As a creditor, myself, if a debror of arsine fell behind, I would not like to take more from him than my sGare. I would lke to see the bon. Attorney General and the learned Leader of the Opposition unite in bringng in a good Bankruprey Act, und were they | to do so, b have such confidence in their so‘egrity ‘bat I would promise tuem betore I seen the Act to give it | MY support,

Mr. Buecken.—I do not shiuk the hon member for Belfast tas read the Bill of last session carelully, tor ul i be bad be could have found that the objections which he has taken to it do not exist, as the Act of Jast session does vor allow an Officer of the Law to take money ou: ofany man’s pocket, it merely allows him to se'ze uuuey i when exhibited to bis view. The meauing of the pre- ‘sent Bill is, that after a man ts arrested for debt, aud takes the benefit of the limits, if it should afterwards be ' discovered be bad prop tt , then the ereditor who detain ed hiw, and he may be bis only ereditor, may summon bim before a judge, and if upon examination it Is found that he hus property, them be wii) be forced to give up. There may be some migor details which way re- quire ameudment, but [ assure the hon, member that it is not an instalment of the LIpsolvent Act. OF te

Committee appointed last year to bringin an Insolvent |

Debtors Bill, Lam the ouly member trom this side of ) the House as | before stated. L mentioned the matter ta jthe Attorney General whe with another gent emanu from | the orher end of shis building are on the committee,stating

i ithat L was aware sevcral persons felt an interest in the

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.p iid on money. l cannot see that the present Govern- | do with stepmothers ia these affairs “Ss da ment are to blame, for they have rectified the mistakes qeut bad something to do with ie offspring and found which other Governments havo made, as far 5 jt a troublesome urchip. The price fixed by the late ; ‘Government was very bigh, but it would have beeu | on, Mr HEenxDenson, —[ have not the slightest pade lower if they could fairly have done ao.

‘doubt as to the justice and necessity of giving the laie Hon, Leaver or rae Goverxment.—The Commis. settlers on the Cunard Wstate more time to pay their ie sioner of Public Lauds recommended a lower figure than | Stalments Bur this matter must take another shape that fixed by the late Government. The Cunard estate, before anything is done. If a pressure were brought to | ynderstand, is at present the subject of discussion, | bear upon.the present Government, they would take the What the hon. member for Tignish advocated was a facts as they fiad them stated by the Consmissioner of oorrect principle. If the people want belp they will Public Lands, which show the absolute inability of the apply for it in another form; and the Government people to pay their instalments. The lands ov thi8 woud relieve them if it is seen that they are really iu EK tate Were Cisposed of at a high figure, because the need of assistance. It is nothing uncommon in this late Government wished to make the estate self-sustain- fiouse for au hon. member to diel! upon the wants of wg Uf possible. Lt is to be hoped that the people will his own cdnstituents. { do not kaow what the hop /not now be harrassed by the Goveruweut, because (hey member for Tiguish means about the poverty of certain are unable to pay their iustalwents, It any one who) di-triets,

\i8 able to pay should refuse to do so, of course he should) — fon, Mr. Howran.—l thought the hon. member for be cowpeiled. Those who are abie tu pay should oot) Murray Harbor should buve used bs influence to bave ‘be allowed to draw back. | the price of the lands fixed in accordance with the pov- | Hon. Leaver or tae Govexnymuent — The bon. | eriy of the peuple in his disctrict

}meuber for Marray Harbor (Mr Henderson) voted for; lon. Mr. Uexverson —From the tone of the hon 8 Bi} to enable the creditor to throw a poor debtor) member (Mr. Howiaa’s) remarks, [ would infer chat the ‘ipto Jail, if he did not pay the last farthing. Now he | people are comparatively rich in his neighborhood But ‘hopes that the Governwent will pot demand the instal-| | think the inference from public reports is, that they 'meuts due from people who have been settled eight years | are going backwards, for I hear that their yrs aud upon their farms, What is the difference between the provisions are scarce, As there is 80 much paper money | wo cises? These people were tenants under Messrs, | going up there, L should think the bon. member wou'd (Cunard, aod bad to pay ten pounds per hu.dred weres! joaye oiber parts alone, and not talk so much about aunuacly, but uow they bave their lands free by Pay!Pg | poverty, I am told that one hon. member of the Gov- joue ball of the sum which they would bave beew! cryment has been the means of forgiving debts ou the obliged to pay tbe proprietor, if they bad bought their | Worrell Estate.

lands drectiy from him. The late Goveromeut fixed Hon. Mr. Hownan —The report is untrue

the prices bigher than was recommended by the Com Hon. Leapee oF THe (ZOVERNMENT —This new pro- missioner of Pabiie Lands Now the hon. me ber posal would give the people on the Cunard Hstate six-

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wants to give parties who settled oa Wilderuess Lauds | oon years to pay their instalments. Thatis, they have eight years ayo, the Sate privileges as those wuo are) had eight years free already, and if eight more be added (wow seitiiug. tle may just as well ack twenty years yhey would get their lands sixteen years for nothing, freedom fiom paying instalments for them, at onee. | think it would be inco. sistent to give them a longer Why does be not show sympathy for people seited on jperiod than those who are settled on other estates, and other estates, os weli as the Cunard Kestate? Lf the) jt would disturb the whole tenure of the Bill. late Goverument impo-ed t *h a prive for the people) 3 ow ‘ : : a vip rg = P G a —_ - ad pl, Mr. Prowsr.~-Tae people wish to be placed in the pay, the preset Governmest wil eulertain any | same posit.oa as those who settle on lands after this Dill peation to do them justice. but all the other estates 10 | ig passed, tue isiand shal) bave equal advantages. | Hon. Mr. Lamp —It has been stated by some bon. Hon. Mr. McAutay.—I do not think the amendment | members of the Upposition that the late Government vo ail the asperity which has bees showa apon it. ‘could not fix the prices of the lands lower than they did. ihe Bal betore us merely relares to the setiiement of fhe hon. member for Murray Harbor (Mr. Prowse) asks e tiderness Lands, and consequently lands already the present Government to give these people eight years {settled nen be included DST i. Sill the c.se of the their instalments, but this would Le an act of injustice reves seitiers on the Cuuard Lsvate should ve attended) tg other portions of the Colony. I was much amused

asked for, but which bas been repealed, and there is now | uo substitute for ut. LT think the principle of the bill is| sound, but there are one or two clauses in it, which re- |

1. Oxenuam, Reporter. | matter, aud that we would have to consider the matier : . 3 3 : ar, L 10, b ; ay ay ile 4 “ :

aod L hope we will soou bave a Bill prepared that may | » beewuso they may be compiled to mortgage their! to bear the bon, member trying to defend the acts of the ' do us an instalment of a more extensive measure. but as | lands to pay their instalments. : Poop e recently | late Government. {He now comes in aud asks the Gov- settled on there Janis, cab get very little except what is| ernment to lower the prices fixed by the late Govern-

quire aweadue it, 1 kuow of @ ice cave where a judge- | Afternoon Session.

ment Was obta ned aganst a man, when he pulled out a

On motion of the hon. Attorney General the House

to a knowledge of much neces-ity to be o nsidered iu |

\ framing such a measure, b think mercantile men are

| sbeolutely uecessary for themselves and their families. | ment on lands os the Cunard Kstate. By the assertions In that case, whac can the Government do for them of the hon. members of the Opposition, the sum was

roll of money amour iag to thre bundred pounds, and | went into Committee for the further cousideration ot) better able to give information than are members of the

ssid to his creditor, | did not intead to pay you ang- supply. Mr. Reilly in the Chair.

bar. I consider the proper way would be for the Go-

‘but to extend the time for paying their insialments. The interest will be accruing, aud the debt will be in-

thing. 1 believe he doubled the money in tradi | ¥ n Ge bmitted f ing | . »cia)) j i : & ) e y in trading, but} The hon. Attorney General submitted the following pent to take it up, especially as the warter is ove which |ereasing ; so I do not think the proposal to extend the

whether he puid bis debt or not 1 do not koow. reso)ution :—

Mr McNetist.—1 bave beard nothing yet in this Bill |} Resolved, That the following sums be granted and placed |

which would cause me to support it. Cuses of the kind at the disposal of the Guvernment tor the following}

deseribed by the bou. member for Charlottetown (Mr. | services yogis ee i -

Breek«o) will occur often, if ereditors do not take the Special grant for macadamizing Main Post Road within Royalty of Chariotte-

proper security. It they will play this game of chance, | : :

they will mee! with losses. There is rather too much of town, at the disposal of the Govern- ai

this credit system in the country. If a man gives credit | aN ome. 0 9 to perties of whom he is doubtful aud expects to get it ;

from their securities, by force of law, be is not acting, | Roads at Georgetown and Royalty ov an honest principle. Thiy bill is not founded on just und at Summerside, each £140, at the J principles, because it gives the preference to ove creditor, disposal of the Government, 200 0 0) All ereditors -bould be served alike, that is, a debtor's Mr. Chairman, last year and the year before last, the |

property should be divided equally among his creditors. amount of the special grants for Summerside was placed | ¢y obtain this is to seud it down to commitice. For my |

] am surprised to bear the bon. wewber for Bedeque | at the disposal of the members for the district, and) say that the bil! was founded on just principles. Ifa there seems to be a differance of opinion, whether we! man bas not enough to pay all bis creditors, by this bill| should adopt the eame plan this year. The objection! the first would take all he tad, and che others would get | arises from the fact that in following this course, there | nothing. Notwithstanding what the bon, member (Mr.|is no way for having @ preper returo of these expendi-| Brecken) said about the man with the votes, 1 canuot tures, and this produces difficulties ia making out the egree with him. }returos. 1 bave no doubt but that the Commissioner of |

The amendment was then put, that the Bill be read of Roads in this district will always be willing to receive this day three wonibs, which was lost on the following | the advice ot the wembers of the Legislature residing division : ‘there. Therefore, I consider it better to leave these

‘Special grant for macadamizing Main Post

affects go many interests; and were a measure of this kind thus brought in, [ presume no opposition would be given to it. The Bill vow betore us does not offect the position to the foreign creditor, nor is it an oppressive measure. It issimply intended to meet the case of a

‘ deeda it away with the intention of preventing a debtor |

fiom getting it, I think if the bon. member will read the Bill carefully through be will bave uo particular objection to it.

Hon. Mr. MacAczay.—I apprehend, Sir, the hon, member for Belfast desires fuller information than he has obtained from reading the Bill, acd the better way

own part, | must be more intimately acquaimted with the measure before | can say whether | wil) eupport it or not. Hon. Mr. Henperson —So far the time has not been thrown away, for we bave obtained legal tulormation which laymen do nor otherwise get so cheaply ; but as there are other certain matters counce'ed with the sub-

ject which [as a layman do vot u. derstaud, £ would

like the Bill to go into Committee. Mr Prowse —Mr. Speacer, nothing that I have yet

For the amecdment~ Hons. Col. Secretary, Kelly,| matters in the hands of the Koad Commissioners, Davies, Callbeck ; Messrs Cameron, McCormack, & reen, | Mr. MacLennan.— Mr. Chairman, before the question when it js considered tn Cowmirtee if ft find angrhiag in it)

’ jtime is objectionable, but on the contrary it is quire ‘reasonable. Perhaps it may be objected to, on the | pringiple that it would be dcranging the system by which ‘estates are manazed. Tis may beso; but what may ‘we expect but additional troubles, when people are ua-

| m: roperty, and wh i's it int " “+s ’ | man who has property, and Who puis it Into monyy or) ibe io pay theic instalments? The Government have

‘a right to Jegislate for the advantage of the people, |whose servants they are, and [ hope the hon. Leader of Government will not treat the subject harshly, If they do net think it should have a piece in the Bill, they can ‘let it go; but 1 cannot see apy objection to the matter Mc. Prowse — I was surprised at the tone in which ‘the hon. Leader of the Government addressed this /Commitiee. He has accused us of clap trap, aod of | being insincere in this matter. This comes from bim with very bad grace. [ can assure him that I am above ju-ing such langage as be impures to me.

| Hon. Mr. Davixs —The bon. member for Murray Harbor (Mr. Prowse) has made some remarks in reply- ing to the Attorney General, which are pot very clear ‘towe IL believe that there are not sufficient grounds t) | show that the people on the Cunard Estate are unable to cowply with the provisions of the Lund Purchase Bill. | We all know that cply one balf of the estate bas been

heard has eonvinced me that 2: ix # just measare, but | purchased ‘by the people, and consequently the ‘returns

are yet atpall,

fixed at as low a rate as possible. In would be aa in-

|justice to ask the Government to give a longer time to people who have already had their lands eight years free. ‘These people have sent in no petition, and for the Gov- /erument to give money without being asked, would be liberty in the extreme.

Hea. Mr. Hexpexsox.—lI very clearly stated that it ‘would hardly be correct, in my opinion, to attach the | proposed matter to the Bill ucder consideration, aod L Should be sorry to impede the settlement of the Land Question. Suppose | put the bon. member for Bedeque (Mr. Laird) in my place in the late Government, at the time the prices were fixed on the lands, and that he con- | seated to these prices, as [ have done, would there be any impropriety in bis actions, whea he found cut the state of matters among his constituents, if be -bould call the attention of the Government to the facts of the cage ? Wovld be consider himself in any way joconsistent in ad- vocating poor people's rights? 1 cheerfully admit that t could not remedy the evil complained of, and that the people would have tu take the lands at the prices fixed upon them, or not take them at all.

Hon. Leaves or rue Orvosrrion.—However desirable it may be for the hou. members for Murray Harbor to advocate the iuserests of their constituents, and to do all in their power in this House to alleviate their pecu- jiar afflictions, end to give them the same rights and privileges which the people on the other estates have. They have vor parsued the proper course to redress these

Arsenault, MeNeil and Kickham—l1L0 . {

is put, L will merely say [have no fault to find with

Against it ~Hoes. McAulay, Havilasd, Henderson, | the Government for the course about to be adopted ; but

Howian, Attorney Genera), Laird; Messrs. Breckeo, | Prowse, Reilly, P. Sinclair, Owen, G. Sinclair—12.

The main question being put, it was resulved in the aff: wative

The Bil. to amend the Act relating to limits and rules of Jails was aved to be read a second time.

A message was received from the Legislative Council, stating that that body agree to a conference on the Bill to reguiste the salaries payable te the Attorney and Soliciuior Generals,

Me. Breoken moved th:t the House go into com- mitice of the whole om the Bill relating to the limits and rules of dais.

Hon Leaner og tae Government ~—I cannot agree With this bull, because it takes the Jast pound of flesh trom the poor man, It enables the crevitor to keep a man ip jai! and to sell bis property belure he is let out all for the ben fit of one creditor. I move that the Bill be read this day (uree months,

Mr. Reiiny.—Aliheugh | have no sympathy with dishouesty, it appears to me that the Bill now betore us isa most «xtravidinary one. We have autbority for) saying that it istetterto let ten guilty men go uopun- | ished than that ove invocent man should suffer. | am oue of those who cannot support the provisions of that Bill, especialy as @ bankeaytey law wil be intrody el} during the present session. [ move «hat the Bil be published fur general inf»mation, and that it be read

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this day three months. 4 contend tbat there is no oc-) casl0u lor it. Hon Arvorney Genexat —This Bill would affect a! man who has plenty of property and will not pay his, debts, he would rather buther his ereditur a Iie, and, for that reason { must say that | amis tavurofit. The Bankruptcy Act will not meet the cases to which this | Bill reiers. Persons who pass varough an Kogiish | Bankruptey Court get a certifivate of dicharge through out ull Lier Majesty's doumons. This Bill would just extend the limirs to the whole area of this Island. If; # wan weot off the Island to the Provinces, be could immediately be incarcerated there, for the very same | debt. If tou. mewbers will refer to the laws of Nova) Seotia and New Brunswick, they wii! find they find that. the Bankrup'cy laws are more stringent there thas bere. That matter is under the consideration of a Committee, and will be in before the end of this session, It wi)! be founded ov a Bill which was passed in New Braus-| wck some years ago, but was repealed. Le is much more soothing to a public man to legislate in tavor of the | poor, but we must legislate justly. Hon. Mr. How1an.—I move that this House go into | Committee ou the Bill. With al delerence to my bon. iriend, the Attorpey General, | noticed that at the last sitting of the Lwperial Parliament, immediately after | its meetiog, Hoa, Mr. Gray woud bring in the old | Bankruptcy Act of Canada, We fied that they bave_ the same Act ull through the neighboring Republic. there is » very large amount of business transacted be- | tweee Evyisud and the United States, this law Works) weil, and therefore we should be behind them if we do) pot act iu this matter. I think, in the view of the last | twenty yeurs of the history of this country, we should do something in favor of a Baukruptey Law, similar to (oat of the neighboring Provinces. Tne introducer of this Bill may put all the provisions aad requirements of the

i Tise to express my regret that @ larger sum wus nor giveo fur Summerside. Te soil in the vicinity of that )tuwa is soft and r quires a great deal of labour to make geod roads. When the present party came into power, irom the interest expressed by some for Summerside, it | Was expected that wore thau £100 would be granted for this service. Georgetown has had mach more done for ic thaa eves Suaimerside bad, and is now, [ certainly

think, entitled to a farger grant than Georgetown. Lt, 113 true the revenue bas fallen off some. but still L am of! the opinion that the Government could appropriate

more than £10, if so disposed, for that locality, nor do L think it would, in the ieast reflect upon the Govern-

ment if the present grant was reconsidered. Tae reso |

Jution was then read and agreed to, and is as follows: , Tr ©

Resolved, That the following sams be granted and

placed at the dipusal uf the Government tor the tollowig

i services, VIZ;

Ke per ot Bouded Warehouse at Charlotte.

town, £50.90 8G}

Deaf and Dumb Institution, Halifax, aU 8 0 Public Surveys aud Commissioners dis-

bursemeu's tu counection with the Laud

Office, 400 0 0 loterest on Prjie Debt. 9vv0 UV OU

The folluwiag resolation was then read :—

Resolved, Tuac the following sums ba granted and placed at the disposal of the Guvernment tor the foliowmy services, VIZ i—

Pubiic printing and station.ey, £1000 9 0 Incidental expenses of Luuate Asylum in

additioa ta allowance be siaiute, 1000 0 @ Mauvazement of Saving. Back, i50 ¢ 8 Public Land Office, 330 0 OO

Co.s.ctor of Customs and Navigation Laws, and Usliectors of Lmpost aud ixvise for cut por s (except Geurgetown «ud Suu-

werside,) 300 0 8 Additiona) Clerk in Excise Office, 1D 6: @ Taird Clerk iu Post Office, luQ GO

Hon. Leaver or Tux Orposition asked for informa- tion respec'ing the amount set opposite the Laud Offve,

The hou, Attorney General explained by saying that the amount paid for salaries in the Public Lauds’ Office was precisely what it Was uuder the late Goveruweut, although the arrangement was differeut, that the ad- ditioual grauc wow asked for was for the purpose of

enabling the Government to effect the necessary surveys, |

which tue provisions of the Wilderuess Laud Bill would render necessary.

Resolution was agreed to, when, Mr, Speaker resuwed the Chair, the re-olutious were reported agreed to, and leave gramted to the Coumtitice wo sit again. Whee the debace on the “Act reiatwg vo the Limits and rules of Jaiis ip this Island" was resuwed,

Hon. Mr. Davirs.—Mr. Spesker, IT have oo further tip settlers were charged much bigher than tbey were) Mr, Prowse.—I care not whether the land is settled, prouse adjourned. As/ reasons to urge against the Bill thau those L put for-|\ op the Selkirk Estate, and L do uot think thatiris fair) with Protestants or Catholics. ward this moruiy. ibe priveiple embodied im it ap- to be placing men in & worse position on the lauds of |

pears tc me tu be altogether in favor of one creditor, and gives him the privilege of taking ail trom the creditors who may be abroad. This i con-ider wroug apd vejust. No eredior w this Island sboud bave any uodue ad yaotege vver one in Hoglaud or clsewbere vi this Isiaud, and such legislation must sooner or later bring this colouy into disrepute. 1 regard our present

of which L ayprov’. L will give it my suport, while on the other hand if | find in the Bill that of which [ dis- approve, | will oppose it, IL think if 18 not eorreet to say that this Bull gives an undue advantage to the creditors ov this [sland over those abroad. L thick the sgouer the matter is diseussea in Commi ¢ e the better, Mr. P. Sincustmr.—Mr. Speaker, L vorei tor th ol! heing “ad, as L tk wht i ight be a beoefi Dili DeIng Tea us thougt it Might Ge a Deoent to have such a law, but judging now from what I have heard, ind taking it as a whole, L believe it will not be

hon, member for Murray Harbor says we may get some iujurmation by sending the Dill to Committee, but would prefer voting 1. diwa at ouce, to Wasting time in discussing it,

After some further diseussion, the motion that the

Bill be now committed to a Commitiee of the whole |

House was made, to which an) waendmaent was moved ‘that it be “committed this day three months.” The ‘amendment was caraied on the following divisioa :—

Yras.—Hons. Colonial Secretary, Kelly, Gowlan, Davies, Callbeck, Messrs Reilly, Howatt, MeCormack. Green, MacLennan, P. Sinclair, Arseuan!t, MacNeil!.—13

Nays —Hons. MeAulay, Attorney General, Laird, ‘Wenderson, Haviluud, Messrs. Yeo, Jtamsay, Prowse,

Owen.—?.

When House went into Committee on Wilderness

Lands’ Bal. Mr. P. Sinelair iu the Chair,

Mr. Prowse.—[ rise, Sr, tor the purpose of moving ‘the following resolutions :—

“ Whereas, Several persons have recently settled on the

Wilderness Lauds, known as the Cunard property. reeeutly purchased by the Government, such settlers being unable to pay

the instakweute required of them by the Land Purchase

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within the last eight years, shall bave the same privilege ap

lindalgence exterd te them, as were provided for selilers en

| Wilderness Lands under the Bill under consideration, and that

hall such settlers shall have credit for any amouuls they have

| beretofore paid toward their iustaluents.” | Jt is well known that the Canard Estate was priced

ap udvautage to the coun'ry ip its present shape Tio

Resotecd. Therefore, that all who have settled on such lands

| Mr. Prowse —Some of the peojre have settled on | yricvances, Lt is a fact that there is a large number of condition of paying at the raie of @ pepper core per) poor tenants on the Cunard Ks'are, who are unable to yean forthe fiis@ten years. Ls it fuir that the Govern-) meet their liabilities, and the proper course for my went shou'd step in and say, you must pay us twenty | ‘riends would be to bring a petition from the people be- per cent of the purchase moucy ot your farms ? fore this House, praying the Government not to be so Hon. Leaner or tHe Govenyment.—Why did not’ siyid ia their demands on poor people who cannot pay ‘the jate Goverament take this into consideration when! ypoir jpstal@ents in full. be lands bad to be classt- they puschased the estate? Tae present Government | fied according to the quality of the soil, and the late are pot called upon (to remedy this one particular case Government were bound to make rhe estate self-sustain- Without making it a general Moarure, ling, it possible. Tue proper course for the people to Hon. Arrouner GkoERal —Yre return of the Land take in this ease, would be to memoralize the Kxecutive | Commissioner bas beea referred to, togsiow that the i9-| Council, und if they did not favor the request, they \stalmeuts bad not been all paid up, and that the people | cuog d' petition this House. After paying due attention could not pay. But that offiver pledzes bimselt that to the arguments of hon members on both sides of thia those who promise (0 pay ure good acids, tuat is, they are | House, 1 do not think that the remedy is in the present ble to pay. on | Bill, because this Bill is really for the purpose of rega- | Hon. Mr, Hownay.—I thought that the provisions of | jating the settlement of wilderuess lands, We shoud this Bill were so easy tat oo bow. member would go! yor have contradiciory matter in the sawe Bull, If the jagainst them, The hon mensoer for Martay Harbor) pp, .osed elaase be inserted, we would brieg iu lands )( Mr. Prowre) thinks that the lands down there are 109) 4/p, dy settied into the Bul; therefore I ‘think my vbigh. Lf so the people there should blame their own | ()..d5 should reconsider the matter before pressing tt jmeuber for their trouble, as he was a supporter of the giiher, But it is in certain paris of the Murray Har- ‘Government that fixed the prices ou their lands. And) ).- district where the people wish to have more time to jwow the hon meaiber Wants to have the people relieved pay their ins'alments I would not like toembarass the lof the burdens which be assisted in Impysing upon them | Government on a question of this kind, and, therefure, b | We are told (hat the reasou taat the yeoyic Caudal Pay | gyick the hon. members had better withdraw it. Ifthe heir ius alwents is, that they orginaily took @ lease on peop'e are Jaboring under difficulties, lec them wemoral- ‘condition of paying @ pepper corm per Year. 1 kuow | (7. cuis House before next session, At present it is farmers ip wy neighborhood who pre'er paying rent to Worely putting the House under the vevessity of giving ‘purebasing the fiechold ot thetr farms, I have no the matier a point blank Tefusal. doubt that the hon. member told the people of the Mr Prowse.—If the bon. Leader of the Opposition ‘blessings the late Goverument bad conterred upon) p49 givea we this advice privately, L would aot have them, and that the Libera! party would never do any- moved an smendment, ‘thing for them. Bur how d-ffevent be acts sow. He a0. Ceapen or tue Oprosition.—I am not an wil tfi.dthat the Livera, Government understand the! sviser tor bou. members. The bon. Leaders of the people, and the people understand them. More free- | Upyosition has enough to do, to advise hiwescif. holders have been made acder the Laud Purchase Bij) Air. Paowse wil on quite willing to withdraw the than by any other weasure, { could agree with a re-| ne.dinent which [ proposed. " ‘mark whieh bus falen trom one bow. member to the Hon Mr. Henpenson —I am willing to allow tbat the effect, that if a plan can be devised by which the instal- proper course fur the people to pursue, weald be

vata higher rate than were some others. Several of ments cau be extended over a greater leugth of time, it petition this boa, House, but there will uot be time

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opposition to the resoluuion.

| Hon. Arronney General —Mr. Chairman, the reso- ‘Jution proposed by the hon member will, it carried, cause ‘a great deal of trouble. We bave ue petition from the people to shew that it is required. To introduce such ‘a elause into the Bill would cause the utmost confusion, | a8 it would conflict with the whole principle vl ibe ‘measure. I hope the hou. member will see the pro- ‘priety of withdrawing it,

| Mr. Prowss -—I think, Mr. Chairman, if the Govern- meot will considers the resolution jn the same spirit in ‘which it Gas been submitted, no objection wiil be taken ‘to it, or uuwillingness mauifested to comply with its ‘request. Lt is well known that ou the Cunard property,

‘the Government in one part of the couutry thau they are in apober. _ Hoo. Mr. Larrv.—It appears that exertions are made to induce the Government to give those wao have lately eattled on the Cunard Kstate another term, as

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‘those settled upon it vre poor, aud it is but fair to place them on the same footing as those for whose benefit the Bul before us is inteuded. 1 hope there will be no

will be mack better. If a petition shouid a in from to do so during the present sessioa,

[the pesple sthtieg that they eveld wet fail theie €u-| Mr. Howarr.—I do not see avy mode of relieving

i, f should oe ae oP these people on the Cunard Ksiaie who are unable ta

amendment to the Bul is supporred, the who “ — pay their instalments, but Lbope the Goveroment will

| of the Laud Office will be ye om Conineee. ig aug | Jeal impartially with them. {& believe there are a few

down in the boa, membe: 6 district s peaeraily por, persons in the district which I represent are unable to

juceording to the report of the Laud Commissioner; but 145, with whom I hope the Government will be levient.

tbe late Government wanted to make it sclf-sustaiwing. |" ‘ys wa. then resolved 0a motion of the hon. Leader of

apd put bigh prices upoo it, which they vow say the Opposition, that the bon, member for Murray

people are uuable to pay. Tne hou. members tor that tacyor (Mr, Prowse) bave leave to withdraw his motion

disiriet 7 _— . this Goverpment hens ask ag _ etials eeneneniol.

‘extend the period for paying the instaients. ne 0 :

a 7%" Se Dicuses Tbe Bill with certain amendments was then reported

these hon. members (Mr. Prowse) is anxious to know 2 eee ara Po eo