Pageld The

I Ottawa lloport I By Patrick Nicholson ‘The most acrimonious discus-

sions of this aesgion of Parliament are being heard behind closed doors in the secret committee planning new rules of procedure in the House of Commons. Mem- bers of all parties agree that For- liament sits for too long each year: but they are unable to a- gree on changes in the rules aim- ed at shortening sessions.

Parliament drags on and on largely because many leaden- iongued members waste time read- ing speeches aimed at their con- stituents rather than at their fel- low legislators. This happens es- pecially during the opening debate of each session. after the Govcrnor General has read his Speech from the Throne. This document. writ- ten by the Prime Minister and his advisers. outlines the state of the world. the state of the nation. and the government's proposals to improve both. For three or four weeks. many members then ex- plain that all that Is needed to make the world in general and their own prosperous little con- stituency In particular a happier place. is I new bridge at govern-

ment expense across their little Punkeydoodles Crick The government has proposed

that the Tlironn Speech debatc should be limited to a week and it half. A similar restriction is proposed for the Budget debate. Liberal committeemcn have also proposed that debates on supplv should be limited to one dav each on eight occasions in each ses- sio. These are the traditional times when private members can raise any grievance in the nation- al interest. They sometimes lead to long and important discussion: such as this session's debate on Howard Green‘.-i proposal that .1 parliamentary committee should study the worsening unemploy- ment situation across Canada. and recommend steps to remedy it.

Finally Liberals have proposed that examination of the estimates of government exnenditure should he restricted to 20 days. or less than one quite inadcouate day for each dc.-nartment's bill averaging $200.000.000.

Muznllng Future M.l"s.

The prrlblem is that this Par~ liamerit is not just changing the rules for this Parliament: but for all future Parliaments too. It is \videly felt that M.Ps. should not be deprived of the occasions when each and every one has an on- portunity to raise grievances in the interest of his electors or of all Canadians.

Responsible members of the op- position. and I understand this es- pecially covers C.C.F. members. oelleve that any change made should only be with unanimous consent.,They are determined to 'ight tooth and nail. and if noc-

Tiiursdsy. June 10. 1954 '

Held For Giving False-Testimony

(APi—A former private who told investigators she saw Wilma Montesi thrown into the sea was arrested today on ll charge of giving false testi- mon_v.

She is Posilide Gansaroll. 32. one among many volunteers who have claimed inside information on the death of the girl, which has become Italy's most sensational post-war scandal.

Wilma. 21. was found dead on the beach at Ostia April ll, 1953. A young magazine editor, Silvano Muto. went on trial on a charge of spreading false and alarmist news for writing that she was a Vl(‘llm of a narcotics party at a fashionable hunting lodge iiearb_\'. and linking the case with figures high in Italy's society and govern-

ROME. secretary

merit. The trial was halted in March and further investigption ordered.

Miss Ganzaroli declared she and a male companion saw Wilma thrown into the sea while they were concealed behind a clump of bushes. But the man denied it.

95531‘! to stay here talking until the Fall in support of their stand. if they suspect that the Govern- ment is using its top-heavy ma- _l(ll'IL\' to steam-roller the niinority against its convictions.

Tedioua Readings

One popular suggestion heard by the committee is that the time limit for each member's speech should be cut from 40 to 30 min- utes.

Even more nffcclive in rcducing debates in essentials would bc rigid enforcement of the rule that members must make their speech- es. instead of rcading them.

The unhappy consequence of to-

day's collapse of the art of oratory is that may individuals are congenitally incapable of

speaking to the point for 40 min- ules. Some such are elected to ev- ery Parliamcnt. These write out a treatise of about 5,000 words. and then mumble it in a monotone to a bored and empty House of Com- mons. Worse. sometimes we have members who can neither think nor speak. These. barren of original thought. treat their dis- interested colleagues to a read- ing of a lavish selection of other men's thoughts, generally quoted from the daily newspapers. '

Today there is hardly a balter‘s dozen of true orators in Parlia- ment. such as Diefenbaker, Winch. Pierre Gauthier Iwho mostly speaks in Frenchl. Coldwcll. Sin- clair and a few others, who would rate a placc among the great non- reading debaters oi our grandfa- thers‘ l".1i'liamcnts.

llsini Neii T€si§' On Candidates For Priesthood _

by BOB JOYCE Canadian Press Staff Wtitvr

MON'l'REAL. lCP)—-The Roman Catholic church In the United States has started to use intricate psychological tests to screen can- dldates for the priesthood. it was disclosed Tueaday.

Two American Jaauita said in in- terviews their order already is testing the scholastic ability and personality oi candidates for its semlnsries in the eastern United States.

Rev_ William 0. Bier. secretary of the American Catholic Psycho- logical Association, and Rev. Rich- ard T. Zegers, both of Fordham University, New York, are two of a group of Catholic priests from both sides of the border attending the 14th International Psycholog- ical Congress here.

At meetings ’f‘uesda_v the psycho- logists disciissed such things as use of electronic computers. instinctive beliarior in animals and use of tests to probe motivation and be- harior.

KNOWING TRUE AND FALSE

Referring in the use oi psychol- ogy in religion, Father Bier said:

"True vocations to the priest- hood cume from God, but the prob- lem is to winiion the true front the frlse. in addition the fact that ;i man has a vocation to the priest- liood doesn't mean that he has the special abilities requu-ed by the order to which he applies.

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The National Catholic lduea- tional Association at its last. meet- ing in Chicago at Easter had two panels studying the use of psycho- logical tests‘ in estirnating voca- tions. Both panels decided the test; were useful but should be c n- ducted. and the results interpre d by a competent psychologist.

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rather zegera said Catholics aeo- no conflict between experimental psychology and their religion. ‘'11. fact it's a principle of the Catholic church that there can be no essent- ial conflict between science and religion." he said.

“Every priest has got to be something of a psychologist in and out of the confessional.

‘We don't agree with the often- heard view that ain LI just a mental disease and that all wrongdoera are merely ill. But we how to a middle course between two ex- tremee—the view that man is never free and that he is always free.

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"The more our priests know about psychology the more they will help those that come to them for comfort and advice."

ROLE OI‘ COMPUTED!

Proirsor Charles P_ Wrigley of the U ivei-sity of Illinois said that electronic computers. or so-called mechanical brains. have a large part to play in psychology but they will never replace the psychologist.

Dr. Wrigley aiad computers make calculating so easy that there is a danger numbers may sometimes be collected just to! their own sake.

‘Great selectivity and great re- straint will be needed if this new medium is to be used property." he said.

A native of Auckland. New Zea- laiid. Dr. Wrigley went to Illinois from McGill in 1951. Previously he studied at. London university.

He said there now are about do electronic computers in the United states. each costing between 8250.- 000 and 5500.000.

The original Harvard machine sometimes took seven seconds to perform a multiplication and up to a minute for a division. The

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Ex ruse: Criticism Gambling Views

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Rev. William G. Berry oi Tor- onto. associate secretary of the board of evangelism and Ioclal service for the United church of Canada. told the Saskatchewan

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