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Provincial legislature. March is, Afternoon deesicn

Continuing the debate on the draft address, ‘Premier Saunders said he had a few remarks to make in're- gpeCfi to the speech of the leader of Th‘, opposition. The latter had made gomo. comparison between the speech as delivered each year. Naturally since we have the same departments of government from year to year, the speeches will bear some resemblance. Yet never in the history of the Pro- vince were the various departments in such splendid condition as they gre at this moment. Of course, it is the duty of the Opposition to cri- ticise. "We never hope or expect to receive any great eulogles from that quarter," the Premier declared.

The leader of the Opposition had said he had no apologies to make for taking up considerable time with a discussion of the Premier Ssunder would do the same. no was not. particularly interested in the ancient history of these claims. however, when the Duncan Commis- sion sat the then leader of the Gov- ernment presented a certain brief. The Opposition leader went back to i881 to refer to a subsidy under a Conservative government; yet his own brief before the can Commission showed that in very- year this Province had with- drawn 8200.000 cf our interest bear- ing capital from Ottawa, andaas’ a result of the “etupidlty" of the gov- ernment of that time we have lost rt the rate of $10,000 per year since that date, without calculating inter-

} ' time, and he had only "referred to Lands Liberal Governments _

'Passlng to another statement of the lender of the Opposition, that the present Government had only been ableio get "sympathy" in the of our subsldyelsims, the Premier asked: "What did the conservatives get in their four years of office?" As for the i927 Dominion-Provincial con- ference which he, Premier Saunders. attended, none of the Provinces got any settlement at that time. The Western Provinces. however. since been able to arrange satisfact- ory terms and he had_no doubt that before the end of the year our claims will be ‘completely settled. It always takes a Liberal MOI/CRIB!!!“ to make these important settlements. l-low- ever. these matters take time. .

it‘ ia_ quite true that he briefs of Nova Bcotia and New Brunswick be- fore the l uncsn Commission are very excellent, the Premier continued; but those briefs pertain largely to our school lands. Now it is very hard to convince the other Provinces that these claims are just. At the i927 con- ference they simply ridiculed them. l-le believed they will have to coin

before the Privy Council. so far as Maritime claims at the Dominion-Provincial. conference of i027 were concerned, we were glvenIa whole day tor‘ file our briefs. The Nova Scotia and Newlrunswick re- presentatives did not take any more than half an hour each at the most. Premier Saunders took up an hour and s half and hia colleague. Mr. In- man, took aboutthe sometime. As a result they got more than sympathy - they gotan expression of opinion that the Premier was sure will haves great weight when our claims come to be settled. The Premier thensrgad from the precise of the conference, quot-

Again. the leader of the Opposition says that his government secured the il25.000,inorease in 1821'. "We know perfectly well," the Premier main- tained, "that the Prime Minister of Canada came down to the ‘Maritimee to get firsthand information and he appointed a Royal Commission-to in- vestlgate." The Conservative repro- sentatives in Parliament said: "We want no Royal Commissions"; but the Prime lid! ' ‘ , g the interests of the people of the Maritimes and as a result we had one cf the finest Ccmmissio ever graced these Province . It is true that the then Premier of this Province went before that Commis- sion. as did other citizens; and, as Commission recom- mended that this Province should get $125,000. The leader of the Oppo- sition might just as well say he v\\s responsible for‘ the grants to Nova Scotia or New Brunswick as claim

comment on _, the Island's claims, which opinion. the report said, might he said to have been shared by ‘all the representatives. . Since the other Maritime sentatives spoke only for s short time while both he and Mr. Ininan spoke for an hour and a half each. Premier Saunders would leave it to his hear- ersio judge who made he impres- sion at the conference! from Liberal members). . "I am certain." the Premier re- peated, "that before ‘ another year rolls around you_will evidence of our labors in this regard."

waslooking after

ltfr. Dunning vs. Premier ling amount. lt was secured, Premier ' Gaundere maintained, thanks to a Liberal Government at Ottawa and through the efforts of or. Cyrus Mac-

Bo far as subsidy settlement is con- cerned. he askedz" What have Nova scctia and New Brunswick done in Have they taken any action?" He was informed by lion. Mr. Dunning, Minister, of Finance, that they had done nothing. But this Government. he declared.‘ had been insistent in its demands.

‘lion. on. MacMILLAN: That a what Premier King said,

Premier's statement Challenged

The 140.600 obtained through the Canadian National Railways, contin- ued the Premier. was also secured without any "credit to the Consens- in this Province. The railway committee at Ottaw- decided on this matter. MY- D- A. MacKinnon, M. P., who was on this committee, insisted that the Msritlmes were entitled tc certain monies in lieu of taxation and the Minister of‘ Railways agreed. At a subsequent pominlon-Provlucial con- feronce the matter was brought up. There was no indication in the ro- llort of that conference that the Pre- ier of this province had even been Present, milch less presented our

live Government

The Premier said he would coma to that later. The leader of the OP- positlon; he continued asfldespotic" a refusal ‘ spondenee durinl mic thereoess of the sessions 1m and ‘I020 with regard to our claims. l-le hadfeven gongso far as-to, intimate that tllerewas no correspondence to‘ table. He. Premier saunderl. had I right .10 insist that his statement H would be accepted in the House. The opposition leader had; no right told- sinuate that there was no correspon- dence in view of the Premier's state- ment to the confiary.

liortlsn. cranium That ls the mstsiale taatleverlseardmyben. friend state that there was corres-

HON. MR. QTIWART; I have made the statement on the noor of - this Rouse that I was present. lily lion. friend should have the coilrteay to ae- fivilt my. statement.

ERDHE SAUNDIBJ: I am 0i!- lfls that here la a report, supposed to be accurate. and it ddefnot mention

l . PREMIER IIAUNDEI: What did you ask me to table, than? llolmglae-rswaainr askedyW to table the oornlflondenoe; but this lstbofiretilleydlllltlmatedwlie-

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on. lseolanaau: Correct. Thrarticii. the Premier continued

claims had been that the matter was “just another Tory red herring." This statement, he declared. was absolute-

oa of 1m for the report of his speech. The fact was that he had been dis- cussing the reforencfto the claims in thelpeech from the ‘Throne at that

the matter" as a chestnut. 1 on. uacssmmrs: so you did. then?

Defends "Chestnut" speech

Premier fiaunders‘ maintained that his reference had been to the Speech from the ‘rhrone, and that he had said. _so far as our claims were con- cerned, that we ere all in favor of pressing them with aamuch empha- sis es ‘our freight rate grievsncoand other matters. These were the things on whlcnwe should get together, be- cause we need increased subsidy on account of the Ilact that our debt is growing to an alarming extent. The reference to the subject matter in the Speech. he had said, "almost seemed like a chestnut"; but he “was not cal- ling the claims chestnuts." If there was ever any occaslonin the history of his life that he had over-pressed with aealand emphasis the important of getting our claims adjusted, it had been ‘on that occasion, and he would challenge the Opposition to refute that statement. The Premier admitt- ed he was unable to give the name of the newspaper from whose report of his remarks in. 132d he had quoted It msyhave been the Patriot.

The ‘Premier referred to other cri- ticism in The Guardian with respect to his attitude on subsidy claims. He quoted itas saying that his "bluff" was called when he refused to table certain correspondence relative to the period between the sessions of 1m and ‘i930. He was now going to call the Opposition leader's "bluff" and if the latter wanted to see that uua pondence he could treat it con- fidentially and read it now.

HON. MB. STEWART: Tilers will be a question cn the Order Paper to- morrow.‘ ' "

Was Told to “"60 Alone."

Premier launders maintained he was not there to make equivocal statements, and when he said there was correspondence he . d that statement to be accepted. He then read a conlmunicationl to the late I-Ion. Mi’. Robb, dated September 2d. 1920. in which the sugested ap- pointment of a board of experts was referred to. Mr. ltobbb reply was road to the effect that the arguments could be submitted to the depart- mental officials. Another letter from the Premier, dated October ‘lth. stat- ed that he preferred going to Ottawa when both-Mr. ltobb ‘and the Prime Minister would be there and asked for an interview for the purpose of securing such final adjustment of subsidy claims as was contemplated by the Duncan Commission. ‘the let- ter referred to "your further suges- ticn that this Province should go alone" in presenting-the claims, and stated that the writer would be pre- pared to go to Ottawa at any time.

At that time Mr. Robb took ser- iously ili and passed away. No scon- 'er‘ha'd the preson‘ Pinance Minister been alimilltcd that l- ler Saund- ers askedfor an appointment on inn. u. HOIIDMr. smeloir pressed the pandlas a result the Pre- ‘ o _ a “accompanied by senator ‘nfcArthur. On Saturdeiflthv! had _'a "conference... and ‘on Monday. ash. so, the Treasury, Board met- ‘lfhefhad an interview with the Prime Minister and the Minister of nance. While the Plnanoe Minister feltihat a committee should be an- pcinted he did not feel that the com- mitloe should‘ come from his own department The people" in the last. think that the Westistrylflstodom- inato conditions, Mr. Dunning said: and in the West, unfortunately. they think the same about the liast. The

do the right thing by every Pro- v ce. The Minister did not believe it would be in the jlarltimes‘ inter- ests to get a committee appointed from his department because if the recommendations did not happen h be in line with whstoilr people es- mm, they would say the committee

did not leave Ottawa untii- two days ilaterf He was interviewed 011.111. n- turn by the Patriot representative} and he told this representative ag

"Panama cannons: And that h“ h‘ m“ "1"" “"9"” W! Iaald-mir subsidy olsimswese "chest- 1 "1"" I nutsfl‘.

ial" Audit was put there. through no fault of mine, and I ven- ‘tura to say it was through no fault of the Patriot," the Premier main- tained. "It was simply a mistake that very frequently happens. Nothwlth- standing that I had this in my hand, on another occasion when a certain gentleman came in I inadvertently called it a minute of Council ' wean of the Treasury Board. so that ls how mistakes are liable to happen. What object would I have in trying to claim any credit? ‘These gentle- men would know perfectly well when they got the minutes of the Treasury Board. So long as we got an_Audlt Board to investigate conditions, what more did we require? And if the word "Special" happened to be writen._l don't know that it makes any differ- ence. It only goes to show how these gentlemen are looking for some fl- cuse to throw cold water on it."

mier declared that he had devoted a great deal of time to the consider- ation of subsidy claims. Ho had re- viewed every line of evidence taken in the Manitoba case. when h; saw that Manitoba was settled with ‘he felt that now was the time to press our claims as the only remaining landless Province, claim accordingly.

we have not secured any additional subsidy, these things are not done in a year or in a “They take time; and I repeat again that I am convinced. because the Pin- ancet Minister of this country has said g so. that he is willing to settle andl adjust our claims and I am satisfied‘ he will do that. I hope that this time next year we will be able to an-‘ nounce s satisfactory settlement. Had Mr. Robb lived he would have been anxious andwllling to help; but I still have the greatest oonil- dence in the present Minister and I am satisfied that this time next year we will have a pleasant announce- ment to make." '

referred to another gentleman who had mad; some study of those claims and presented them to the Charlot- tetown Board of Trade. ‘that gentle- men happens to be a senator of Can- ada. He was doing his duty andthe Premier had the greatest respect and admiration for his ability, So far as the enator's ideas are concerned, in ’ many respects he agreed with him. especially with regard to the difficul- ty of getting consideration on the questions of school lands and the re- turn cf lands to Quebec.

Finance Minister that this Province should apply single handed. That is what he wanted every province to do, to stand on their own feet. "l don't know that he had any serious

going there, but he did make the suggestion, ’Come alone and make your claim.‘ Was I going to suggest that we should co-oporate after he requested us to go single handed? Certainly not."

the AmherstWinter Pair, the Oppo- sition leader had said that the Pre- mier, in~ his gone too far

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that we should do everything _ to further co-operation. he had nev- er suggeeted Maritime Union nor had he ever given the matter any thought or consideration.

of a Royal Commission to arrange final settlement of our claims, the Premier disagreed because we had the finest Commission in the persons of su- Andrew Duncan, Dr. Cyrus llacldiilan and Col. Wallace. lf the Government had suggested another commission the opposition would be the. first to criticise. The Duncan

Ibderal Government was trying to

readjustment and reassessment. The leader of the Opposition says that allthisboardofauditorscandowill be-anoiliaryto going before the led- aral Government. But according to pection i of the Board of Audit Act there is mrovision among other

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impetuous way, had in his remarks on Maritime co-operation. If ever ha, Premier Saunders, knew a party to act first and think afterwards it was the Conservative party when they decided to adopt Government Con- What he had actually sald"at Amherat._the Premier declared, was

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This was a reasonable and equit- able method of adjusting the matter. the Premier believed. The Liberal Government always acts wisely and rightly when they undertake to do anything of this kind.

Manitoba. as a result of pressing its claims, is to receive $4,500,000 for subsidy arrows. In view of the fact that we were the only landless Pro- vlnce that was left. this Government got busy ‘and prepared a brief on this subject. This memorial was filed in Ottawa by the Premier on Jan. 20th last.

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