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.-—._......_.___..____j_. unlloa continued for. a short time; ‘:1 the Budget speech was well de- A llvsrld but since then the leader of the Government seemed to be , carrying a chip on his shoulder. .:It was rumoured that he had been sitting on an “egg" for a while and something had gone wrong with the egg. It is \vell known how a clucking hen will bohava under similar circum- stances. The Premier showed signs of discontent and it was evident the en was not fertile. Charac- teristically the Premier took his ill-humor .out on the Opposition. but they were not the only ones Iubiec ‘ to his blast. "He has vented his anger on the farmers— that body which he was elected to lead on two occasions-—nnd also on some of his own members," Mr. Bell said.

Alarming Debt Increase

Mr. Bell noted that when the Premier entered the House in 1935. when a Liberal administra- tion took over. the gxrovincial debt was In the next'iive years. at the end of 1940, it had increased to $9,700,000. In 1946 it jumped to $10,400,000. in 1947 _to 314534.000. and on Feb. 28, 1950, It was 315308.000. or an increase

‘Of five million dollars in the last three years. The Provincial Treas- urer is budgeting for an overall indebtedness for March. 1951, of 515339.000. This does not include the month of March. -1950. The to- tal estimated indebtedness at the end ‘of the fiscal year 1951 will therefore be seventeen million dol-

rs. .

From 1873. when the Province entered Confederation. to 1935 the debt under all governments over a period of approximately seventy years was five million dollars. From 1935 to 1951——a fifteen year period of Liberal administration- it increased by twelve millions.

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In 1935 the debt ” amount- ad to 8873.009. lfr. Bell continued. By 1951 these charges will be over one million dollars.

He had every hope that the new Provincial Treasurer (lion. Mr. Darby) would economize wherever possible. but the situa- tion was admittedly a serious one. - Three years ago much satisfac- tion had been expressed with the new Federal revenue of over a million dollars which was to ac- crue to this Province, Mr. Bell continued. "We got that. and it just seemed to go into the melt- ing pot." he said. “Now we. are apparently as badly off as ever. and this Fall new arrangements must be made. 1 don't want the Premier to give a wrong impres- sion at Ottawa about our proa- perity here. When he goes to Ottawa they may quote this art- icle from Time Magazine which most of the hon. members have read, and which paints a very rosy and misleading picture of our fin- ances."

Premier Jones: "Would my hon. friend suggest how we can con- lrol Time Magazine. or how we can control the Press in any case. 1t is no fault of the Government."

Mr. Bell: ‘'1 have been_watch-

ing_Time Magazine since. I trust that there will be some retrac- tion of this statement. as I do not think it shows our correct position. and it is going to.ba to on prejudice later on."

Falconwootl Barn

Among iicms of controllable ex- Denditure Mr. Bell listed the ex- penses incurred in building a new I-‘alconwood barn, which could have been done at a saving of’ $20,000. and the money put to other purposes. The former Min- ister of Agriculture (Mr. W, I-‘. A. Stewart) had stated that a nood annex to the barn could have been built for four or five thousand dollars. He said it cost about

Premier on this point.

Premier Jones: “There is no dis-

pute. The cost has ‘been tabled; Let my hon. friend not be quib- bling." Mr. Bell: “I repeat that an an- nex to the barn sufficient for all purposes could have been built for $4,000 or $5.000. There is a re- turn hers lhowlng an expenditure of 521.000. 1 don't know how com- plete it is but I know that in many of the questions I asked. I got evasive answers. and I.am more inclined to credit the ex- Minister of Agriculture when he says it cost 330.000.

“What do we find in this barn today? Are those good dairy cattle in this mansion? We find only the young cattle thei’e,— possibly shivering and shaking while the builder of it, the man who drew this $15,000 cost plus contract. is basking in the hot sands of Bermuda!" (Laughter).

"It appears that it was the leader of the Government that had the whole say in building this barn and letting the con-

Attorney General. a Deputy At- torney Gsnsral. and three Crown prosecutors. and they still have to go out and hire other lawyers to conduct some of the cases.

In gmersl government the cost in 1925 was 355.000; In 1&5 it had risen to 381.000 and today it has jumped to 5355.000. “Then is room for saving h e." Mr. Bell insist- ed. "in salaries which have in- creased to a terrific amount."

Travelling Expenlol

In 1944 travelling expenses for members and other agents of Gov- ernment for trips outside the Pro- vince amounted to $2.119. In 1948. the year of the Dominion-Provin- cial conference. it had understand- ably increased to $5.200. In 1947 it dropped to $3.600. but in 1943 increased again to 34.300; in 1949 it doubled itself to $8.990 and this year it is over $10,000.

There was also travelling ex- penditures incurred locally by members of the Government. In 1944 these amounted to $2.400. and

tract." Mr. Bell continued. "Why? We know that the Bergmann Con- struction Company had consider-‘ able to do with suppiylng_ this building. and we know that the head of the Bergmann Construc- tion Company was a particular friend of the Premier's."

Mounting Costs

Mr. Bell went on to complain of the "astounding rule" at which costs were mounting in the‘ ad- ministration of Justice. There has been very little crime in the last few years. and the costs should be getting smaller. In 1925 the ex- penses under this head amounted to $33591. In 1935 they increased to $54,000. in 1946-47 to $114,000,. and in the 1951 budget the cost is estimated at: $139,000. A large Part of the expenditure in- curred here is an unnecessary salaries. Mr. Bell maintained.

Not many years ago the Jus-

$30.000 but there seemed to be some dispute between him and the

tics department was run by prac-

tically one man. Today there is an

by 1950 had increased to $5.650. _

Totalllng these figures up from 1944 to 1950 Mr. Bell noted that travelling expenses alone amount- ed to $66,728. "I submit that this matter has got out of bounds al- together." he said.

He noted that for the most pill‘! these bills were for even amounts -5100. $150. $200, etc. In only one case, that of Dr. Clark who rnzide an investigation on turnip r;-mrkcting. was there a report tab- led in the House. Dr. Clark's ex- penscs were $319.82 but for the most part just lump sums were charged up.

Premier Jones said this was customary practice. When he went away himself he might stay a week or ten days, and he would credit $100 or $150 for expenses as the case might be.

Mr. Bell: "We are glad to have that expianation."\

Premier Jones: "And I have to pay my own liquor out of that- for treating." (Laughter).

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check should be kept on these Io- oounts by the Minister. The totals weretoo high. Premier Jdnes: “It is $3-W I day for a room at the Chile!“- If I took a suite. like even’ 0111" gmlewf CdIna"d.p It lNOIlltl- D0 or a I)'- .

Mr. Bell recalled the Prcmllr stating .a couple of years ago that Beach Grove Inn could be obtain- ed by the Government for 81.1.1110. The members approved at that time. but since then hundreds of thousands have been expended on guts building. The work. he un-

erstood. was on a cost plus basis and the total cost was half a million dollars. , Not A Farmer F ‘er lidr. Bell was pleased to note an increase in the estimates for Agri- culture. Sometimes he thought the Pnmler was forgetting that he is the leader of the farmers in this Province because he was returned as head of a farmers’ government and is a farmer himself. Premier Jones: "I would like to correct that. 1 am leader of the Liberal party in this Province and I represent nothing else. I don't want to be put down as a lawyer Premier or a farmer Premier; I represent the people." Dr. Macltdiilan: “Only 51 per cent of them!" (Laughter). Mr. Bell: "My hon. friend does not like me to refer to him any longer as the farmer Premier. but in the last election he liked to be designated that way. M 1985! by They used to call him ‘the Farmers’ Man of Action‘." Premier Jones: "What are you doing yourself. trying to be a farmer? You are fooling around at lt." Mr. Bell: "My hon. friend was not successful as a farmer until he became Premier of the Province in 1943; but if he has objections to my designating him a fanner Premier 1 am not going to get him any rnadder than he has shown himself to be now. “The farmers are getting ‘action’ from my hon. friend all right; but they are not getting it in the right way. Instead of running to him now they are running full tilt from him." (Laughter).

“Sucked In"

Listening to the Premier's re- marks to the Farmers’ Federation delegation. Mr. Bell said he was reminded of what children say to each other in their games when something goes wrong—-‘You were sucked in.‘ Why did the Federa- tion come before the Legislature this year’! Because they were in- vited here by the leader of the Government on more than one occasion. At a meeting in Char- lottetown during Farmers‘ Week on Feb. 35. 1949. the Premier ad- dressed the Federation and said he wished the farmers to take the initiative in suggesting things to benefit agriculture. Later. in March 1919. the Federation came before the House and the Premier commented on a number of items in the brief and thanked them for coming here with their sug- gestions. assuring them of as wel- come back again next year.

"Those were the leader of the Government’: words a year a o; be welcomed them: back." . Bell’ continued. "So I say that they were ‘sucked in‘, because when they came back in response to his invitation he blasted them almost out of the Assembly room. Not only that. but his colleague in his own dim-ict (Mr. Dougaid

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Premier Jooc.i: "Does my hon. friend know who represents the farmers? We have the Agricul- tural Council today. a group of men who make up a brief and pre- sent it to this House annually with no fsmfsre at all. We try to act on that brief. and we have acted on it this year. That is a more important body than the Farmers’ Federation. Their brief is better studied. in my opinion."

Mr. Bell-recalled that the Fed- eration brief of’ 1948 specifically thanked the Minister and Deputy Minister of Agriculture for valu- able mpport received. They soil- cited co-operation and guidance and in 1949. when they came back to the Legislature. they again stated. as directors of all the farm organizations of the Province. their wish to co-operate with the Government in every way pos- sible. The names of the various organizations were annexed to their brief. .

This year in their brief the Federation gave the assurance that their efforts were not those of a glorified grievance committee, but that they represented also the rural and provincial organizations and farming communities in prac- tically every school district.

“|neffloIent" Farmers

"I submit that these members of farm organizations who were coming here by invitation had no right to be insultod." Mr. Bell said. ‘To my mind that is what did happen to them. When the Premier of this Province ‘tells them that over fifty per cent of thorn were inefficient he should be ashainadofhlmseltbacsuaaif they were ineeficisnt the blame phould be laid upon the Government. He had been leader of the Govern- ment for the past seven years."

Prentiss Jonas: know when to class you: farmer or what."

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self who will lose pigs because the roaring of tiioamaahnais changes from time to time."

lion. Mr. Bskcr: "Did you ask for advice!"

Mr. Bell: "Yes".

Premier Jones: “Didn't you

know enough to give a little iron to a young pig?” . , Mr. Bell: “I don't know if you grow a litter. but we miss a lot of pigs. usually sixty or seventy; and we give them iron. tool,’ Premier Jones: "You should be there all the this yourself."

Mr. Bell: “I know. but your ex- ample is set and Iain trying to follow you: and perhaps I won't be a succaslul farmer either until I get to be Premier!"

Artificial Insemination

Continuing. be criticized the Premier for "shutting down on the artificial insemination unit." In 1934 the Pruner had said this was a modern way of raising cat- tle and itwss at his suggestion that the unit was established in this Province. It functioned satis- factorily for a while. and it would have continued-so if it had been left to go on. The last year the unit was operating, in 1949, the cost to the Government was only $2,200.

Premier Jones: "I said last yet: that at no time did this Gov- ernment ever‘ag-ice to have an artificial unit here. That was turned down, and it was only by accident that they got some money from the Department of Agricul- ture. They got $8,000 or 89,000. and when they couldn't raid‘ us for more money last year they quit. We were never into it."

Mr. Bell: "Apparently the Lead- er of the Government has gone back on his theory that it was a modern method. But there are many who do believe that still. and it was discouraging when they got orders from ’the Premier to close up.’

Premier .Iones:' ‘'I didn't close them up. I didn't have anything to do with it. They didn't get any money and they closed up them- selves."

Mr. Bell quoted from a report of a meeting of breeders held in March. 1949, in which the work of the insemination unit was review- ed and at which it was stated that a considerable portion of the money was used the previous year for treating cattle for vagin- itis. Even today the Experimental I-‘arm. where the unit was. set up. continues to maintain it for their own Ayrshire herd and distribute seed throughout the Province to other breeders of Ayrshires.

“I remember dliiferent members of this House mocking of the benefits of the unit when it was functioning here." Mr. Bell add- ed. “And one of the greatest boosters for it was your own good self. Mr. Speaker."

Mr. Bell complained that Gov- e’i-nment loans for tourist promo- tion acem to have gotten out of hand. It would be good policy to have an annual report giving the details of these loans. with the amounts outstanding. He under- stood loans had been given for overnight cabins where none had been erected.

I-ion. Mr. Mathesont “No, no." Mr. Bell: ‘'1 know of one case where the Provincial Treasurer holds a mortgage of $1,000 on the land. and no building: have gone up...

Need For Abattoir

Mr. Bell said he understood an abattoir was to be started by pri- vate enterprise in Charlottetown some time ago, and there was some suggention that the Govern- ment might hei-p. This would be of great benefitvia promoting New- foundland trade. where the de- mand is for chilled beef. As ti-is situation stands. there is no pub- lic slaughter of beef in Charlotte- town except what is done at the Canada Packers plant. They have the veterinarian and the plant. but it is for their own benefit. Quite a lot of money was spent on the proposed plant, but it has been held up for lack of capital.

1-Ion. Mr. Matheson: "Couldn't they become incorporated and raise some money?"

ilifr. Bell: “But I think the Gov- ernment couid very well back their bonds. I see where the Curling Club of " i-‘m got a loan of 815.000; also the Gulf Broadcasting Company got a loan from the Government."

Premier Jones said that in those cases the conditions were

fulfilled. and other communities could do the some if personal bonds were put up.

Hon. Mr. Matheaon: ‘Thu-e has

not been any application. in my time. to the Government for this 9...”.

Mr. Bell: “I understand some encouragement was given by the Deputy Ministers. but the matter has been held up because the as- sistance was not forthcoming."

Livestock Graata

Maintaining that an-ieultural conditions were not as reusurlng h the Premier had, stated. Mr. Bell proceeded to quote Mr. II. R. I-lsnnain. prssidont of the Domin- ion federation of Agriculture. sad Dr. II. M. Robinson. secre- tary of the Ontario Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association, to thiydfaot. In approved of a suggestion made by the masnbcr for st. Polar’: t‘lIIt_ grants be made