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==<—osJ—--- - -— Sa — SS : : _ om a n-ne mane ’ “ OOTING | 96 a he same time F caumot see} dn phe Despatch of the Secretary of State, a copyof| Hon. Me. DINGWE{A.-A1 am thankfuj for the LEG ISLATIY i COUN CIL. earn ite, | ena he fon "the peavite of the | which Thetd in my Neots f

his Grace says, with re- lanation of his honor Mr. Palmer, for [ certainly

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ee 4)10. |eountry; if you ean convince me tly it‘is, I will! gard to the electors, “ T would require rlerably apprekend that a change bad come over the : te — - . ™ ; | ion can t 7 : ’ high “qualification.” New, what does i s Grace eee Govesdiness ; bat his honor's explanation Honse in committee on the Eleeygy Counc ily Hon. \ir. PALMER —1lis honor Mr. Huajchinson!| mean by this? le meins that the electors should | is so satisfactory that 1 am willing to leave the Bilt. Moa. Mr. Forgan in the chair jis evideritly m very bad humoyr to-day. He has| be of that = ot peregas wine ave - stake e the — - it is. . nen i re attributed motives'fo the present Government for | country, so that we mighthaye an aristocratic Upper ve clause they agreed aft : How. Mr. SINUW BLL . In — a int acing thie Bill. He ge it was for their own Chumber which wouk wally represent the latdect House rasp and proggess reported. a - constitativu “ this Council, ” pened pent | adeantages atid ends—tor the purpose of securing | interests of the Colony. Well then if we take the deija aout aaneeegnen watit will cust the Colony,or whether any of your the position of the members of this Gourd. To be] despatch as our guide, we should take wimg ee ——

Hovere have made a cuiculation of the

: it, and Ld not think that £100 curreney will be cust! Lalse wish to know whether this

one consistent he should go a little further and say it ‘ , louse is) ig to prevent the Liberals from coming to the! gonsidered “a tolerably high qualiteation.” If te bave any more authority over the revenue! 1) hustingse. What ‘advantage, Task exn it be to the} this body were to be eleeted by the same electors, think this 1s the proper time to understand those | Government of the day! They have a majority at} you might as well have but ove chamber. There questions, as at present the House of Assembly | present in the ¢ onnenl, and also in the House ef | fore I cannot agree with the amendment proposed Mew moncy matlers with a very Jeajouseye. | Atmaubly, And if a amioety of the sae party | by his Howor Me Walker, ford guid rues i . : would not be returned to the latter at the next! crease the quaiiheatic ’ ; Hon. the PRESIDEN T—Doee his guer mean | general election, what guarantee have we that a} motion is wate to that effect I wiil support it. that this House should have the power to initiate) majority in favour of the present Government} yfon. Mr. ANDERSON — When this Bill was meney votes ! | would be returned to the former from the SAME | Dawsed last year there Was no ( ualifieation required How. Mr. DINGWELL—Yes; that is what 1 | Cemesnantes t Does mas this show the futility of | tor candidates, and I was gatistied ; but as bis Grace mean. Y think theae questions are reasonable, | hie honor’s arguments. There is nothing to prevent | the Seeretary of State ne tolerubly high qua- and may save trouble and misunderstanding with | one perey ee gUvIng Nae er, e public oo litication, all | am afraid of is that it is not high the House of Assembly in fature time. What are | 0 : ‘ir i till it on a oa : — Tt ote . tt ie k enough to secure its passing, because I know that we te gaia by an elective Couneil if we are aot to } C tn a aan wt ae ee © : spe oe | the people wish to have a voice in the formation of ii iit te . aii oe ake Arguments are very Inuch out Ob piuce .| this Honge. I would therefore be willing to raise have ayy more contre lover the sevenue t they re mind me of the fable of the wolf and the | the qualification higherin order to seeure the passing have wow! It will cost the country some thou-) lamb which went to drink at the same brook. lof the Bill. ,

MISCELLANEOUS,

A DUEL ON THE TIGHT ROPE.

The taste for repe-dancing which the celebrated madame Violante brought into fashion in the early part of the last century ourished nowhere «o much and so long as in Dublin, where the agile lady es- tablished herself, and opened at heatre, the attrac- ions of which fora time surperseded every other place of public usement. Madame Violante was the Blondin of her day, but more of an artist, and less of an acrobat. She treated the public to seenie effects they had never witnessed before; she trained some notable actresses—among whom was

gands of pounds te elect this House. _ Ilon. the PRESIDENT—His honor gays that it Hon. Mr. GARDINER moved that the qualifica-| Peg Woffington—and carried rope-dancing to so { fun. the PRESIDENT—Not thousands, hun- | is the first time he has heard me speak abont paying | tion be £150. 4 high a itch’ that ths boul ined et Dublis talked dreds. | the members of this House. Now, { have nee} Hon, Dr. JOHNSON on rising to second the mo- | of) and attended to, nothing else for some years.

been of opinion that as long as they were nomina- ted they should not be paid; Dut what I said was | | that [ would not go to Georgetown if the Legisla

How. Mr. DINGWELL —Yes, thousands at) every election J alep wish te know if the mem-| bers of this Council are te bear their owu expen: | ture were held there. ses when they are elected f | The first clause were then agreed to and the

Hon. Mr. PALMER—I certainly see nothing} second read. improper in the questions of his Honor, and while! Hon. Dr. JOHNSON—TPhat ciguse says that on the Bul is ander consideration is the proper time | the Bill being coutirmed by Her ey this House | may think proper, and } further think that he is en- dancers, who had established themselves and their tw understand them. His Honor asks whether it) shall be immediately dissolved. » Se I think the i titled to the thanks of this House for doing so. ropes at opposite endsof the city. One astonished hts: ee "0" genni -| Lieutenant Governor should have some diseretion-| on. Mr. PALMER—Thoagh J admit that there pes at oppor Te city , t és intended ty exteud or abridge the privileges of| 7 power, Because a Despatch confirming the Bill |:. oe 5-2) of force | poe monte foe tuicins | the natives of the then fashionable Liberties, the this Couneil, or, it L understand him aright, whe-| might be received by him at atime when it would | Fe ee iiation bos the eaiete te hoon aroma other amazed the dwellers of the New Town, who ther bt, are to have the Su er, when eleeted, ot} be very intonvenient to hotd an election. toanal ta the House of Adeiiale and asit eaheum had not then extended to Merrion Square. They initiating money votes. Now, I do not think it ls} Hon. the PRESIDENT— Suppose a Cg pose {fixed by the Gévernment at £100, E think it would | had arrived in Dublin on the same ‘day, set up a to pat the Conneil ey the samy foot- | arrived when the Legislature is sitting, this House | je very little use for us to try to raise it. their rival camps, and sent forth their manitestoes ing as the House of Assembly in that respect; the | might be dissolved in the very heart of the Session. The question was then put on Hon Mr. Walker's | next morning; aud henceforth there was nothing Hill wifl not bear that construction. It leaves us| vnunet iw debate the _clause WS | motion and the House divided ; but contention at dinner-table and tea party, in gest ac we are at present constituted with regard Scaled ie Aicannahaneannes int tha thesis “sy eras _ Messrs. Walker, Mutehinson tavern, coflee-house, and billiard-room, concerning de ee, | — > ae os phe a el the Act not exceeding six mouth. ee s : connie. Hon. the President,Hons Mesars. tive moral, social, and acrobatic worth ot Signor pr pared to say to what ext P ee Ou the 7th clause, relating tg the quaditic ation Of} palmer, Johnson. Anderson, Gardiner, Haszard Sarfuico and Monsieur Perote. the Legislative Councas, in the proviaces where | electors, being read— ad eoder, a tga ell er their names and titles indicate, the one was they are elected, extend; but 1 do not think they! Hon. Mr. WALKER moved that it be amended! “xo fie mofion was lost. an Italian and the other a Frenchman. Sarfuico have the power te initiate money votes. It, of | by striking out the werds “ oue hundred,” andin-} phe @vestion was then put on Hof. Mr. Gardi-| was young, mesecular, and tall for a gentleman course, rests with the members or this House to, sertiag the word “ ye I think, said his honor, | pers motion, and the Honse again divided : whose business had to be conducted on the tight- say whether they will contend for that power or | (hat if it bs intended that the two branches should) Cowrents — Hon. the President, Hons. Messrs. rope. Perote’s age could not be ascertained ; his not. For my part, I would not feel myself justi adversaries asserted that the blackness of his thin

hair was owing td dye; he was small, slender, and wind-dried, professed to haye been brought up on

tion said—I am of opinion that the interference of

the Secretary of State is verv proper, because by :

this Bill the crown is daleeniinn 4 power to the | DY, and her theatre ‘nome inte other hands and e* .

people; and therefore Her Majesty, or rather the | uses (it is said to have become a Methodist Chapel), Colonial Minister, who is in this respect the guar-| the relish for this species of performance was strong dinu of the prerogutives of the Crown, should exer: | enough in the public mind to produce a kind ot cise the right of making any suggestions which he | civil war regarding,the merits of two rival rope-

Long after the day of her management had gone

— eee ~ Cot ae be such a very | Gardiner, Jobnson, Anderson and Ramsay—.

. . . i ” ¥ a ~ | y ereuee in the qualification Non-contents— . Me . Palme r Haszard fied in introducing such an avendment as his neo ir DINGWET Se alin ‘ | Now-conrests—Hons, Messrs. Palmer, ' 7 mse Pe - Mr. DINQWELL—I think it is hardly con-) yacLaren. Sim Jutchi Falke Jine-

lioaer aoe — ee ’ a =| sistent an the state ofthe country to say thas the | Seley. ee te eae adherayce = ne ace room te a wealiBcation of 6 a e the other House is! So it passed in the negative. Honse resumed and other brauch of the Legislature with such & large | jot sufficient for an © .octor for this. | progress reported. Adjourned for one hour. ° majpriy. I shail notoffer anyamendmentezeept; Hoa. Mr. PALMER—TI must oppose that amend-

with regard to the serutiny; but I net sud | mgput, and I think their Honors in, moving and sup- | Tuvrspay Artrersoon, April 10.

. . +2. . ting it, are acting yerv inconsi ‘$ 4 “y Ke nt ‘ } ; r ss : apy fault —_ his Honor for asking es | ah Sala ven ae oe re ae again in committee on the Elective Coun- | glass on his back, and balanced his swerd on his Siena. If such a power were exercised DF have the qualification the same ds that of the elee- Pa od | chin with a taciturn stateliness sufficient for a

seranches of the Legislature, I think it wiuld be ‘attended with a great deal of inconvenience. We! sill still have the power to negative any Bul. All) the appropriations come up in one Bill; we have | the right te exercise our judguent ypos, each item, | and if we are dissatisfied with ang of them, we | would be justifiable in rejecting the whole Bil, if| there were no other expedient. We would then, Le responsible to our constituencies, and it would ee with them to say whether we oF the Howse | people having more of the interests of the country of Asombly were oe . . jatstake. If you take away that qualitication you

Hou. the PRESIDENT—Itis very little use to! pat this House ona par withthe House of Assembly. talk about this Bill, because I believe it is the de-| You would then destry all analogy between the Hon. Mr. RAMSAY—1I am sorry that his honor termination of the majority of this House to carry Upper Chamberand House of Lords, some principles | yg». "Publher eounet agree with oe sain I it through. But with regard to the question of of which we should follow. This bas been pointed | eubssitted a similar resolution last year and there | his Hower, Me. Vingwedl, I think it is a matter) 7 poe oy ee a4 his Grace the Secretary | wis 4 majority of this House in favor of it. I om] for very grave cousideraticn: fur if the country is of State. © appears to know what we want bet- | 031) of the same i. I think we have a right! pent—that the

| ter than we do ourselves. 1 do not adhere to that |, ; . ' alo : te be put to such an enormous expense, your) _). + i ws weiter : to judge for ourselves about our local affairs ; and | Mensth aaa weigh the subject —- cae re anes high oe ne tas te old if you canyas Prince County at the present time I | > : : Z } : cation, OCR : a a “ Eg . J 1 cannot agree, with bis Honor in saying that it/ believe it will be for the benefit of the country ; and | 7, Comident that you will find 99 out of a 100 who will cost theusands of pounds; but I believe * I hope and trust that no support will be uiven to wae, Me SIMPSON From his honor’s own ad- will cost hundreds. | the proposal! to ‘rednes ik. um not standing here : et ¥ ‘ Hon. Mr. DINGWELL—Time is money, and! to deprive tiny blaes Of persons of a privilege ; but when I consider the time that will be spent at| a aide ; af ee aarte are not as capable Leoti beli . 2 ‘ | of judging what is for their nefit as some others th a _ ee . Meet hel ¢. Many men have to submit to what is for the t —— _ a wh bot Bay Ww! general benefit.’ “For instance, how many men have | cost et " j

r nite , to submit te a taxAtion for education, who have al- | Hoa. the PRESIDEN] =I quite understand | ready educated their ¢hildren, or who have none his Honor now, and I fully admit that it wiil cost) educate !—but it is for the benefit of the country

the reyenue and country ngs. What bene-

ters for members of the other House. 1 should op- | Hon. Mr. RAMSAY moved that a clause be in-) ¢ardinal in full canonicals. His Gallic antagonist pose it either way, because it is necessary, if we | sorted to prohibit any member from being elected wish to breserve any analogy to the House tude from any other county than that in which he resides. - 7 e ’ > > _. ie bl . . ay to raise the standard of the electors. What we want! ee PALES . — ere — ne a is the grave, sober, settled inhabitants of the Colony. | at ut I do not — at oe be aved poly % We do not wish the me . * aa ne present time. , appears [ © the feelime at) We do net wink the members of this Honse elected! rostut w allow the fering ue select tele member | her, subject to a suddenebullition of party feeling. There | is enough of that element sending members to the House of Assembly. We want a selection made by

talked with immense volubili

and exchanged repartees with his Dublin

lony for a given time.’ I scarcely think it would! he was the last scion of anoble Florentine family.

‘| sembly; and tloagh [ would like to see the Bill | embrace the views of all parties, yet I cannot sup- port his Honors amendment, as I fear it would 6b-

| struct the Bill.

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| other, but their mutual hatred was said to execed

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some intention of that kin y | fluence the Frenchman’s movements in

least in Prinee County, for if the people are so| lowed him, and set up his opposing camp, much in favor of the measure they will certainly | return a man from their own county.

Hon. Dr. JOUNSON—Mempbers will not be sent | jy to this House to represent any disteict or party, but | 5», ithe whole Island; and if the electors think there is a man jn their — ae eo ey suit them, : : ; | they will certainly select him without restricti Jarge. It is, therefore, better for a question of this a by law ; if a. they should be at liberty to/ morning in the

those days, Dublin had not seen their

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fit ix ty be derived from it! ~ There are ne greater | oe Uke a Se “- a clase of re Who are | choose a man from another district. controversies arose — social circles split and fell privileges coveeded to this House ; and lieve | tter w ‘er eguyiig oan aor pte = —— Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—Last year his honor, | away — people altered their willis — old friends A 7 > priv 2 e othe

it would embarrass any Government to give both presen,

ad = class we do them no harm, becuase we do that Houses the power ty initiate money votes. I) vi ich is calculated eventually, if not directly, to do

hope te see the day when the Government will | them a benefit. It is necessary to have laws to pro- have the sole coutrol over the revenue. It is 86/ tect property, and those parties will partici ae in fos Nova Scotia; the Government initiate all money | the blessings of those laws; they may theu be con- ees. But if it is to cost the country so much, | tent to abide by the judgment of those whe are more arket advantage will it be? Now. 1 will just put capable of deciding. They have the privilege of # case: suppose the liberals have a majerity in YeUng tor nembersof the House of Assembly. We ‘the H of Assembly and the conservatives ia|* . re contracting, _ eevee Se — See i : ne which they enjoy, and they should thank us for shis House ; and a the liberal majority pass} doing se. Therefore, I oe that hon. members the Revenue Bill, aud the liberal minority in this wil} ‘see the necessity of allowing the qualitication House are unable to carry it, what is to , "}| to remain as it is, at £100, for I think it is very mo- are the interests of the country to be sacrificed? | derate. Few men in the country, asa general rule, How Mr. HUTCHINSON—There must be a have farms of less than 50 acres, and those whose

seconded it. I ani still of the same opinion ; for if candidates have liverty to go to all parts of the Is- | land certain individuals from Charlottetown will | get themselves returned in spite of fate. I think | the members should represent the counties in which | P@ they reside. of Perote; he bowed to the carmen, and wanted Hon. Mr. HASZARD—I do not see that we can | justice for Ireland. The high Tories and friends do any harm by arene the ehoice to the electors) of government, on the other hand, lent their theinselves. Some of the very best representatives strength to Sarfuico; he was a reduced gentle- reside beyond the bounds of the district which they | man, and no doubt of sound principles. The Lrish represent. ‘ } i Maal \ ce Pe — . | party being the mest namerous, gave Perote a

n. Mr. GARDINER —I shall snpport — y all é : ati : sre Me wee ame eee i loeeaas ae considerable maajorty; and what was still more in didates from Charlottetown coming to the conntry | the Frenchman's favor, the ladies threw their I : with their kegs of ram,and collecting crowds round | weight mto the seale. In spite of the better louks _ improvements are not worth £100 mast be pro-| earner promises from them —and in this|and higher pretensions of his rival, Monsieur Pe- | pounced transitory and unsectled, and we cannot way they would choose the representative of the | aan compliments and general dey etion rely upon them. The privilege should therefore be | district. © withheld from them tillthey doacquire that amount. |] do not think they have any right to go beyond! and | Hon. Mr. DINGWELL—His honor, the leader! them. x |of the Government accuses us of inconsistency.

with politics, as what in Dublin did not! The

swelettion.

lion. the PRESIDENT—Yes; but in the mean- time the ewuntry would be ruined; it would be!

filled with Yankee rum. a an Ser) |e oan ad ota rity should be returned, what would be done then ? er , % (and in their influgnee, great as it is, and bas been You cannet then create five new members in one Last year when this Bill was introduced, there | cial ee oe eo ag ago ee ene in all anes and res, had a power on the banks aught. You cannot increase this House nor dis-; was 10 be no property qualifieation at all; Ido net} CGoxrxx1s—Hons. Messrs. Rameay, atclinsen of the Lidey in sume day s arficient to swamp any solve it. Therefore [ think your Bill will be fonnd | know how such a change could have come over the | and Gardiner—3. opposition. Monsieur Perete’s fame and eash-box te be a total failure. You will find that it will be | minds ef hon. members. If it ie the Despatch of | Nox-coxrexrs—Hon.the President.Hons. Messrs. | Went up at a raté which threatened extinction to almost impossible to carry on the principles of Hlis Grace the Duke of Neweastle that has ehanged | Palmer, Johnson, Anderson, Haszard, MacLaren, | his rival, till the Ltalian’s ingenuity found out a ible Government. If the erown had the | 4 ~ wher ~~, — 1m = eu ieee | Simpson, Dingwell and Walker—9. mode of making things wore than even. Sarfuico . ran te of im ance to the capatches o ritish Soi i » newative. ane : _ Dowatt rs -enty eS ao we ae a = = ome . oe noblemen, dictating to our poor Colony what course The — st rami vacating their| — we ie sige : . aead = a - oe would be different; but by this Bill you deprive! 5, pursne with regard to our own aifairs. | icadiia Uadamatees elit aiiie: Gian Mie nae s | feet above anything Perote had ever attempted. it of that power. Therefore I say you should lon. Mr. HUTCULNSON—LI intended to move | Tes. Dr JOUNSON— They Se ss din Kock me The bare advertisement drew a considerable house pause before you pass this Bill. Then agzia his) that the qualification should be the same us that for! he pe-eleeted. That principle is adoptod in England. | the first evening of exhibition, and when it went Jfouor, Mr. Dingwell, has asked the question,and | electors for the other Hoase, but 1 am willing to) and I suppose it is found to have some beneficial cf | abroad how he had carried the sack, balaneed yiis Honor the President of the Executive has, | fall back aul support the amendment of his honor, | fect; but L cannot see the propriety of adopting such | the sword, and drank a glass of wine tothe health through inadvertaney [ suppose, neglected to an-_ et alker. I have listened 4 the arguments of | 4 course here. The people who select a man as! of the lord-lientenant, Perote’s popularity fell to ewer it, whethor the members of this House are a ne a yaa aaez ther Teprenentaive mnt have conddenes in bin, freeing pint In ain hi mast ntonshing feats , i te “me jj * . a - . 7 oe =) ; Hare cannot see that aeeepting office disqualifies) wer i ‘“auisition: » stoo me leg { Sp aene pio weeny edie my fo eeere| into the kitchen, but not into the parlour, to say | jim in the least. And if be dpe bast he oaly woes cara iGenth the tletoet eee —— a

vld, espoused his cause as ladies only can;

the rope, and considered it the grandest and most elevating of liuman pursuits. Signor Sartuico was grave, silent, and even dignified. On the hemp he danced the latest minuet, carried a hamper of

ty throughout his per- | formance,generally in hisown praise and that ot his science, as he pleased to eall it; related his ex- periences, delivered his opinions on men and man-

from any district so long as he has been in the Co | audience. Signor Sarfucio assured the public that

"| tind support at the present time in the House of As- | Monsieur Perote boasted his descent from a line _ of rope-dancers, and took special pride in one of his ancestors who performed before Henri Quatre, Each gentleman prefessed to know nothing of the

| that of ordinary tivals; through their respective satellites a whisper oozed out that they had tra- velled and danced together for yea: 3 on the conti- ir quarrels had latterly been such as to call for police interference—and. that they had separated with vows of vengeance on each other; was supposed to in- particu- mission there can be no need for the measure at | lar, for wherever the Italian went, there be tol-

They were both excellent in, or rather on, their suliar lines. As ropes were walked or aonece uals, d they divided the town between them. w- agers fought their battles over their cards; young men quarrelled in coffee-houses, and met next Phenix Park about them; family

Mr. Ramsay, proposed a similar resolution, and I) passed cach other without speaking—and engage- ments were broken eff, on account of Signor Sar- tuico and Monsieur Perote. They got mixed up

| popular er Trish party were the chief supporters

I would confine them to the counties, for to the fair sex carried the day; the ladies, young |

gisdatare sat in Georgetown, I would not leave my home, my family and my busiuess, and attend there for a £106); avither, J am sure, would my

hon. friend the leader of the Govermment do 26.| ment in the other; for I maintain that the inhabi- |

lt is ne inconvenience for mewhers residing in Charlottetown te attend here, it is rather a plea sure; but it is tue much to ask gentlemen trom, the country to attend here and spend their time | aod their money without any remuneration.

Hon. Mr. PALMER—I dil not expect when I moved the House into committee that we would! have a contest on the principle of the Bill; bat 1)

see tis Honor the President hag buckled on bis) and I was pleased to see that he did not; bat it ap- |

armour and atiacked the principle with renewed vigour. He thinks tw¢ eleetive bodies might come to a dead lock, and wouders hpw the kev would be applied. Now it is quite possible that ageh a calli- sion might take pace, just as it has already Laken lace when we have a nominative Council and an! # lective Houge : but 1 do net apprehend that it would | s#imihijate the constitution if it did take place J bis Estand wonld net be more liable to such a collision than the other Colonies which have adopted the prinei

initinted , the Lower House were sent up here aud we refused to pass it, then each House takes | tae ibility of what it dues. The Howse of Asse was always rer

never; tuen both will be respensibie. lon. the PRESIDEN I—This Bill provides that |

that he may vote for members of the House of As- |

sembly, but not for the Council. I Lope the men | who are prevented from voting for mewbers of this | Monse will not vote for supporters of the Govern-

| tants of this Island should not be put on a par with the inhabitants of Britain, where the population is so dense. Alimost every man, when he comes here, looks ont for a piece of land, and settles down upon it, and why should such an individual be prohibited from voting, though he may not have £100 worth of property. His hovor the leader of the Govern- ment Mid not say a word last year against the quali- fication ap: J the same as that for the other House

sears that sotue anaccountable change has come ever tis mind. I suppose the Despatch of bis Grace the Duke of Neweastle who kuows very little about ns has produced the change; but it is very likely that these very words have been put into iris mouth from this side of the Ailantic. E Von. Mr. WALKER—A poor man’s labour is his

‘eapjtal, aud I certainly think that £50 is high

enough.

' el Hlon. Mr. GARDINER—T do not know why we | ' ; iple of an elective Council. Suppose a Bill! should reduce the qualification, for 1 think it is too | why you should loose contidence in a man because lf

low at £100; I wish we could bave it higher. this House is to be elected it should be chosen by men having a stake in the country. 1 do not think

ponsible, this House | that any person having the good of the country at |

heart would suy that £100 is too high. ; lion. Mr. RAMSAY—If we are to have a qualifi-

to a small district, whereas he is an officer for the whole Island. 1 therefore object to that clause. - 1 think the principle should be abroyated.

Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—If there is any good

| iabenee, should depart from those great principles | which have been established in deed When i the bait of an offies is held out to a man, is be the same man that he was before? He should then go | back to the people, and it is forthem to suy whether | tney have the same confidence in him, and if they | have they can elect him again; if they have rot they can say no, we will not elect you, That isa rivileve granted by the British constitution and I Caos it will never be surrendered. / Hon. Dr. JOUNSON—I am an Englishman, and an old Englishman too,and [believe that Englishmen | at the present day would not approve of that clause. | You have no business to elect a nan as a represen- | tative in whom you have not confidence. His honor | suys that wheu the bait of an office is held ont toa j man that be is changed; but you must have time to know whether he is changed or not. I do not see

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Ilion. the PRESIDENT—I must congratulate the majority for inserting that clause, hen the pre- sent majority came into power they would not ai- | low any member to hold an office; but before an- |other session passes L rather think you will find

this House can neither be dissolved nor crammed. | cation fer the electors, it shonid be a respectable | public officers holding seats in the House of Ags- Hon. Mr. PALMER—Very well, they are re-! one. Iam of opinion that both the clectors aryl the | sembly ; and therefore [ think some new light mast

sponsible to the people, amt that will be brought to} bear which is the only remedy for muiny constitu. 4ignal diseases—publie opinion—that mast regulate the matter. If a large number of petitions come In from the conntry, the Legistature will have to act | accordingly. I think this is quite sufficient ; becanse | any constitution is hable wdutem ptions ; but these) are evils which will work theif owy cpye. His) homer says we cannot prevent thase evils by 3 new creation. I dou not adwit that even now we

ean do se. That power may not he conceded to a’

future Government, at lenst they eannot obtain ix at any momeut. Lf the House er Chamber of Re- presentatives need reformation, and the power Is in their own hands they will never be reformed. At the time ts which your honor has alluded there Was an extraordinary state of affairs, and an ex traerdinary remedy was required. And with respect to the question whether the members are te ‘be paid or nut wien they are elected, if his honor had wdverted to the debate of yesterday, he might yemember that that question was asked by fris JLonor Me. Walker, and in my re ve _a — one of the greatest objections to the Bill ; but I saic that if the wished to have the power they muust pay for it is honor s of the onerous bal of geutlemen from the country sitting here without pay; his honor's sympathy has broken out ve nodes His friends sut for years and years pode him without pay ; why were they not pai theud I ueverh oe — the cause + S se country pombers as be has done at present. presev! Geverument has said that they will not pay them till they sre elected.

Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON —Iis honor the Leader of the says thut if this Council should evutinue a» it is wt present constituted, that the same course could nut be pursued in case of an

“ ‘y as has beeu formerly adopted. Now this appearé very steanve to me; it seems as if one party were to have a privilege over the other. 1 thought from the tirst Lime this Bill was introdaced that the was to get 4 Council here so con- structed that it could not be removed or reconstruct- ed in case the Lilemd —, into power, so us

frou deing auythmg. And I f enormously high q ion that was required for candidates by the Bill of last year

was tor same .

dion Mr. Simson —t presume that we are out ot order Mr. Cusirman, io diseasxsing the pemmipia 4! the Bill now ; but as the liberty ef doing so has Last

bees to viber members, 1 wish also to make thera , fi poh . says, in for the parpore of

rmenttrom, ing. Jn the

meays tung

the other party in a better position if they should wer, because it — a by the

Bane wencies. They wi su ) elervted bout the same time, for Ue Bill provides slat they eball be elected us soon as it therefore harmonize better Assewbly. Suyinw that they cannot be removed is

mot correct, beeanse they “must back to th ee oe four years. Thy 1 aubestace that there js auy ground for the fears which his Hu appease yo eure

rtain. Wheutiey ure elected

believe they will be Hoa. Mr. DINGWELL—Any party that is in lie interest us well

Wark for the I look me

now how; and w arouud experienced men at this Board, I let

and fuirly—let us do for the better

ure.

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nestly for tue Ww

candidates should have a property qualifieation, and last year I contended that that tor the candidates should be £1000; but it was reduced by the Llouse of Assembly.

y . “ye . . ; lion, Dr. JOUNSON—Sowe of the arguments of | | am surprised at the position assumed by his honor | grand; the Frenchman determmed and unflinch-

' have dawned on the minds of the present majority. | [think they find that it is almost impossible to carry

on Responsible Government without the heads of | departinents on the floor of the House. I must say

in any part of the Bill it isthat part; and Tam sur- | rised that his honor Dr. Johnson, who is an Eng. |

effect; notwithstanding his bows, the carmen ran /to see and shout for lis daring antagonist: and | though his compliments rose if possible to abigher | key, the ladies deserted him and tis rope. At this epoch, it became public by their joint | advertisement that Sarfuice and Perote had made | friends, Why and how, their most confidential |advisers could not declare, but it was generally | believed that, as became hiv position, Perote had made the first overtures, and Sartuico, remember- ing former days, and not unwilling to rule over his | enemy, agreed to let bygones be bygones, and re- | ceive him into his service. They were henceforth te act together, and the suriises, speculations, and reports that went through Dublin, when that announcement was issued, was unexampled, Would the Italian bring down his rope ? the Frenchman elevate his? Would the stage admit of twe ropes?) Would there be anything | more than the old tricks? Heavy bets were taken | on those important questions, and a full hour be- fore its doors were opened, a crowd that might have filled a building twice the size, had collected in front of Sartuico’s theatre. The getting iaand getting places was a considerable business ; and when no mere seats could be found for the ladies, and no more standing-reom for the gentlemen, the curtain rose. Then whata surprise for the eager faces—what a disappointment of shrewd conjec- | tures—what a losing of heavy bets appeared, for there was Sarfuico’s repe alone, at its highest ele- | vation, and there were the rivals both upon it, | The Italian looked more than usually grave and

Would |

hon. members are ou the assumption that we were | Dr. Johnson, for it is a principle admitted in Eng-| ing, as if his courage had been screwed up for disfranchising # certain class ef persons, but this is; land. For instance, suppose lis honor were elect-| some desperate purpose. ‘The one bowed solemnly

bogmes Jaw Itwili with the Honse of of

not the ease. We are endenvouring to reconstruct the Constitution of this House and should endeavour to have it established on the very best foundation. Last year I took the liberty to move that the electors should be 39 years of ave; that was not disfran- ebising any class; it was enfrauchising all above that age. This House should be elecied by a fixed | poretes. having a tixed stake in the country, and uiving the welfare of the eountry ut heart. Vagree | with his honor, Mr. Gardiner, that it is two low. | £100 sterling would be more acceptable. It would | tuen have a similar etlect to the amendment which | J proposed last year. [ut to say that it should be the sume as that for the other House is altogether

| unreasonable. Hon. Mr. PALMER—Ilis honor, Mr. Hutchinson, says that 1 was willing last year to have the quali- the same as that of the electors for members of the House of Assembly, and I have been uccused of inconsistency because I yo for that clanse now, which requires the electors to have a qualification. Now, I can inform hon. members, for their gratili- cation, that when this measure was first introduced into the House of Assembly, I couteuded stroagly for a qualification of both tle electors and the eleet- ed; but Lhad to give way to the opinions of the more numerous; and why did I doso!? Simply be- cause I did vot wish to lose the Bill. That was not inconsistency ; and the same feeling induces ne now to vote as I iutend to do—to maintain my consistency by carrying this Bill. If I thought the Duke of Neweastie, or any other Colonial Minister, would assent to it. L wonld till go for having a qualifica- tion in the candidate, but I yield for the pu of carrying my object, for it is better to have the Bill as it is than not have it at all. As to the remark of his honer, Mr. Hntchirson, about the class of persons to whom we do not grant the privilege of voting for members of this House not yoting, as he bas expressed a hope, for the supporters of the Go- vermment when the time comes; if they do not 1 suppose it will not be bis honor's fault, for I dare sty his honor will be found leading up as many of that class as he cau find to vote aguinst the Govern- ment. All I can say is that I wish him joy of his company. It is not Irkely that I will be in the con- tention. Tam sorry that we should oceupy se much of the time of this House, going over what was fully discussed here yesterday ; bat hon. members do wot to be satistied with an answer. was ing not long ago ef a parrot which had been taught to speak a number of words. It was placed near where a bricklayer was building a house, aud some wag learned it to say, “sore mortar.” The hod carrier would no sooner go down with his hod than he would hear the cry from the top the wall, “ more mortar,”’ and supposing it to be