HASZAIKITS GAZETTE. MAY 20.

LEGISLATIVE OOUIGII. OKAIBER, Mosrmr, May 1. EXCLUSION BILL.

be Iion.Mr. Hoi.i..—In moving the second

rsadin of the Bill intituled “ an act to secure the In spendeuce of the Legislative Council and assembly," my observations will be few, and the little I may say in support of its merits will not. rbaps, be of muoli avail, from the expression of hostility which liss been man’ fested on the part of our Honors; nevertlie- less, the advantages that would result to the public interests if the provisions of this Bill were fairly carried out would be far greater than some ofyour Honors may be willing to admit. If ssed into a law it would iave the efsct o placing you on a liigb eminence in public estimation and beyond the reach of every im utation of self interest an motives of private consideration. And it is with a view to rocure an encrease of public res oct towards the members of this honorable idy that I am the advocate of this measure; under a conviction that in order to possess the confidence of the people, and that our acts and deliberations may have due weight, our first and best efforts should be directed to the establishment of the independence of both branches of the legislature. Private consider- ations will, in spite of all that may be said to the contrary, too frequently prejudice the judgment but when we have the highly responsible duty to perform of framing and maturing measures in which great public interests ma be involved,and by whic the well-being of every individual in the colon may be more or less affected, it behaves us to come to the consideration of them with an unbiassed and uninfluenced b rivate and personal consider- ations. The is the same in principle with that which has been recently carried in Canada. (The hon. Col. Swahey “ I deny that it is”)I beg leave to differ with his Honor and am prepared to prove, that if the relative position of this colony and Canada, as regards extent and po ulatiou, be taken into consider- ation, the num er of salaried oflicers who will be allowed to hold seats in the legislature here, by the Bill before us, is as great in pro rtion, as is allowed in Canada. Knowing, owever the opinion entertained by certain of your Honors and your determination to reject this BiIl,I shall without further preface move the second reading of the '

The hon. Col. Giuv.-—In seconding the motion of in hon. friend for the second reading of the Bill, deem it almost superfluous to offer any comments upon it at all. During the last 18 months thatl have been in the colony numbers of my fellow countrymen have been. I know, sincercl anxious that such a measure should be asse ,and I am satisfied that their

rayers wi I be met by this Bill if it be carried. Iain certain that gas of the people are in favor of this Bill, and in copyin the example set by Canada we are doing wel and following in the right th—In one of our late debates when this su ject was incidentally introduced, it was asked, what was the corruption in the late Governinentland Inow reply that it is for the purpose of guarding against such a thing thatlvwish that certain ofiicers should not be in the legislature, and that practice has been followed in England for many years: and so rigidly is the law in that countr enforced that ifany one employed in the co lection of her Majesty's revenue should interfere in Elections he shall be not only dismissed from the service but fined in the sum of £100 : and if such a rule is considered absolutely necessary in so old and well regulated a country how much more necessar is it in so younga country as this, with a view to avoid even the agpearance of corruption, that certain public 0 cars in the pay of government should not h seats in the legislature. Whenl find that this bill has been carried in the lower house by ama' rity of more than two to one I am satisfied never can do wrong in uphold- ing sucha a stem of responsible Government asl am wel aware of the private opinion entertained by the late nobleman and ' talented legal adviser from whom this blessing ori 'nally emanated,and in in impression is t at it will be a joyful day for this country when it becomes a law.

The hon. Col. SWABIY.-—Ill one of our late debates the subset now before your Honors was introduce and received then so much attention, that I think it would be taking up too much of your time to go over the same ground again, and, therefore, I will not sa another word than I said on that occasion. f the principle recognized by the bill were co no body in the slightest degree

vested in political subjects could suppose that it would receive the Royal allowance. It prevents and cram the people‘s means of choice and goes down the scale so low as Com- missioners of Roads and small debts, takin away from the choice of the people the best of the population . If that Bill were carried, the people would not have a sensible man to represent them in the legislature. I feel it to be my duty to oppose the second reading of the Bill. The hon. Mr. DINGWELL.-—If I thought that the Bill would be for the od of the country I would certainly vote for it, but bping of quite acontrary opinion it cannot receive my su port; and, without in the slightest degree seeking to make impro r reflections on or even to intermeddle at al with what concerns the House of Assembl ,I feel convinced that in sending up that Bil the members of the other branch knew well that it would never this House. Such being my conscientious eonvictions and fully coinciding in the senti- nisn expressed by in honorable friend, Col. Swaby, I shall feel it to be my duty to vote against the second reading of the Bil . Thsho . r. oi.i..—-I maintain in reply to his Honor Col. Swsbey that Commissioners of Roads should be excluded and think his Honor has made an unfortunate selection from the list in ob' ting to the a plication of the principles this Bill to sue olssrs. Itliink

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patriotic spirit, altogether‘

it wrong that any olfioer who first votes for a

rant ofmoney for the public service then in his olhcial capacity expends it, and has thirdly to audit or pallzllll own iii-counts, should hold a seat in the legislature. ldo not say that any evils linvc resulted froiu the system, but albuses might arise and this bill will prevent tiein. 'lhe hon. Col. Sw.initv.—As the subject of Road Commissioners has been introduced into the debate I avail myself of the opportunity afllirded me of contradicting an unfounded charge that has recently in the lower house been preferred against a certain Road Commis- sioner in Queen's County, for I know it to be a

(.‘oiiiinissioner"s account strict y audited before 's account, and therefore a great injustice Iias been done to that oflicer. He was pulled up before a Committee of the House of Assembly and is con not imprope y coni- ineiited on after his account had eon proved and certified by the auditors to be correct.

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ago when this Ilouse was in Comniittee on address to the Licut. Governor. the princi of this Bill were fully debated, and I then an opportunity of stating iuy opinion upon it.

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sion to take up the time of tho Ilouse with further discussion u n ' . I am still opposed to the Bill, and do not think ifit existed anion the public oliicers, would be prevented by its provisions. I am l'ully justified in drawin this conclusion from what I find now actua Iy to be the case, in that respect, in the United States, where political corruption exists to a fearful extent The argument made use of by His Honor Mr. Hell 0 convince us, that a _Road Conunissioner should not liav_c a seat in the legislature, if‘ of any value, applies equall to the Colonial Secretary who acts as Roan Correspondent, as a member of the Legislature votes the Road money, as correspondent disburses it, and again in the Assembly sits injudgeiiiciit on his own accounts. There is this very material difference, however, between a Ron ‘orres- poiidcnt and the Colonial Secretary, that whilst the former receives only £10 ll. year for his services, the latter receives 1.‘-I00 ll. year.

The Ilon. Mr. Hoi.i..—My opinion is that the Colonial Secretary should not be Correspond- ent of Roads also,-the oflices are inoolhpatible, the duties of the latter interfering too much

fact these oflices should be se rated.

'l‘h<- Ilon. (‘ol. Sw.iiiin'.— .\o. I would oppose any thing of the kind.

'l‘lie Ilon. Co:.. Gii.iv.—As to the expediency of the Attorney General and Colonial Secretary having seats in the Legislature, many do not ndniit it but rather consider it as evil. every salaried oflicer from the Government, but ‘ ould up car, from the recommendation in

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the Colonies, that they have conceived it neces- sary that these particular ofliccrs should be in the Legislature but none of the others were I‘C( uired to be so.

Iis Honor the Piusini:.\'-r.—I will not occupy

to say on the subject under consideration.

look upon this Bill, as having been introduced in consequence of the Address of your IIonors to His Excellency the Lt. Governor. and I verily believe, that it would not have been introduced at all this Session, had the Government not felt themselves urged by the pressure ofthis Ilouse. And your Honors, when I look to the Officers that are by the Bill. to be excluded from it Seat in the Legislature, I can never believe that the other members of the House of Assembl enter- taincd one serious thought, that it won d meet with the sancton of this House, (the lion. Mr. Iloll, “ .\Ir. Fraser voted for it-.") For it ex- cludcs all the leading men in the country, and I am also sure, that such a Bill was never siib- niitted to the consideration of a Legislature in any other Colony. I deny that such a system prevails in Canada, as had been asserted in iis House a day or two ago, and an Act (the hon Mr. Iloll asked for the Act in question, but it could not be found.) I rather think, indeed I believe that the majority in the Ilouse of Assembly entertain feelings of a particular description towards certain members in this Hsuse, for the 0 position they have had the hardihood to exhi it to their Government, and if it had not been so, such ollices as the Judge of Probate, the Adjutant General ofMilitia, the Registrar of the Court of Admiralty, &c.,would not have figured in the Bill before us,—but really such ii. piece of of petty legislation is entirely beneath the ave consideration and dignity of this IIouse—is not found- ed on justice—but Iias been framed with a view to carry out some purpose, which may well be called insidious. Your Honors, I feel indignant that such a Bill should have been brought up to this Ilouse. We are to too, save the mark, that is to purify I —that it is intended to make this Legislature independent! I did not know, your Ilonors, that this Ilouso

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had become so doteriorated—so sun —so i - ore and so in tted with lepros , that it stood in need of sue a novel mode ofpurgation and

cleansin , nor do I lielisve that it has, or that it is at al necessary for me to entrust you to pans beforeyou pass this urgingand purifying Bill. But his Honor Mr. I oil, also states, that it is necessary for the purpose of placin hon. mem- bcrs above all personal motives. have been in this country now nearly 10 years, but unless the inhabitants are ver much changed in their »character, from what have ever known them. they cannot with justice be accused of insidious esigns or interested motives, (the hon. Mr. Hall, “ the inhabitants of the (fity of Stagna- tion.’') on my hon. friend Col. Gray, comes to the charge and tells us, as an astounding fact, that two-thirds of the po ulatiou are in favor of this Bill, and we are to d that although iis Honor has been here only some I8 months, that during that space of time, s an able to discover more of what is reprehensible

in the conduct of this community, than other

fact that the late Iload Correspondent, who' was also the Colonial Sec-retar , had that Road .

The Hon. Josiiru Hicssri-:v.—0nly a few do s

would not have said so if he had seen s Petition. 2 The population may be hken to be 70,000 .5 for women, 35,000 i 35,000 ' Famil consists of one man and five cllildrcn, (Population Statistics show this to be the average), . being t i 8.750 1 (if the children '5 are either girls or , minors, eiii , l I 1 d 2,916 Amount of Voters in tie s an l under the new Franchise Act, 11,066

I consider it unnecessary on the present occa- . l At the that corruption, :

with those of the Colonial Secretaryship—in -

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an ‘ As for myself, I would rather exclude

the Dcspatc l of several Secretaries of State for ‘

much of your IIonor‘s time with wliat_I have ‘

hon members who have bsgjfar longer in the Colony. There is in ._ end Mr. Dingwell who has told your onors. he never before even heard of such things, far less seen them. -

Hap. his Honor (Col. Gray will sxcuse me if] “'

i ask for the evidence. His onor may refer me ~ to the Ipresontinajurity in the House of Assem- ‘ bly. think, however, that we have already ‘expressed our opinions how they have been

returned—whether they do or do not represent.

the pcople, we have nothin to do with that

matter just now—-but Petitions have been » signed for the dissolution of the present House, by about nine thousand souls, Freeholdsrs and Tenants (an lion. ntleinan “ half the number women and chil ren.") I think his Honor

irescnt iuoment. and if we take the l nuiiibor of Petitioners, it will be found we have lavery large iuajority, and consequently his IIonor‘s statement cannot full besubstanti- } ated. ldoubt not that his Honor believes the » stateinciit he has niade, but he will rdon me i when I an that lie is mistaken both in his pre- lniises an calculation. And my hon. friend ‘ thinks that Responsible Government is a great boon when carried out in the wayhe represents it should be, and [produces joy t rougliout the land, but your Ionors,instead of joy, in my opinion, and I am sure I will be borne out by ‘ your Honors when I say it, if this Bill should ‘pass, it would create sorrow and mourningx throughout the length and breadth of the land. think so, because the ople are so well satisfied with that form of sponsible Govern- ment which was introduced by His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, and are so pro erly I tenacious of the glorious principles 0 the British Constitution that they will never allow lit to be assimilated to that form of responsi- i hility which exists in the neighbouring Repub- : lie : and I am astonished that my hon. friend ‘ who has served his country so faithfully would -even for a moment think of advocating one so ‘infinitely beneath it in every respect, and so repugnant to every British feeling. Such being ~ iny conscientious opinions I have the pleasure to support the motion that the Bill be read a second time this day 0 months. The Hon. Mr. Hoi.i..—I-su so his Honor is erfectly satisfied that every signature to the etition is genuine and from the hands of . male adults.

Ilis Honor the I’aminsu1'.—I certainly think that it has not been signed by women and children.

’l‘be Hon. Col. SWABIY.-I know that very great care has been taken not to take any sig- znatures but from those entitled tovote under the new Franchise Bill. ,

, The lion. Col. Giuv.—In “the absence of his 5 Honor Mr. Holl, during the time his Honor the 1 President alluded to the conduct of the Govern- ‘ment, an observation fell from his Ilonor (the President's) own lips, which as a member of the Executive 1 cannot pass by without giving it a most emphatic denial, it was this, that the Judge of Probate and Adjutant General of the i\Iilitia, owed their names being included in the present Bill to the circumstance of these hon. .gentlemen having voted for and been instru- . mental in etting up the Address to his Excel- jlency the ieutenant Governor reflecting upon ' the representatives of the o Is. Your Honors, I deny the truth of the assertion, and I have had the means of knowing that this was not the cause ; and I will remind his Honor the Judge of Probate, that it was in the power of the lxccutive to have displaced that Judge, and will rove it from a despatch of the Secretary of State for the Colonies (An hon. gentleman “ No on cannot) Yes, and I will read it, with your Iouors’ permission—It was transmitted in the year 1348 (here his Honor read it) That document is signed by Lord Grey, and the very first time I heard of the Petitions that were getting up by certain parties for a dissolution of the Ilouse of Assembly, it occurred to me that these parties would be much better em- ployed in reforming themselves than in at- tempting to reform other people. With respect to the means resorte to in procuring si a- tures, or to their genuineness. I know not ing whatever of my own rsonal knowledge, but I have been assured ‘lfy a number of highly respectable individuals that a large portion are not bona fide si atnres

The hon. Co . Swsasi'.—I can hardly think that his Honor is serious when he adduces that letter of the Colonial Secretary as if it could by any possibility be a plied to the ofice of a Judge. Why, your onors the crown itself without a vote of Parliament cannot displace any judicial officer. It is a mistake for any e to sup se any such power exists.

The question having been put b his Honor the President on the amendment hat the Bill read a 2nd time this day 0 tinonths, the House divided as follows :

ntents.—'I‘he hon. Messrs. the President Swabey, Birnie, Haythorne, Dingwell, Beets Beaten, Joseph Hensley. Non Contents.—'l‘he hon. Messrs. Iioll, Gray. So the Bill was lost.

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A Truvsi.i.ino Po'r-raitv.—A Wisconsin. paper say that a resident in that State (pro- bably a Yankee by birth? has built in the town of Menasha a singu ar looking craft, one hundred feet long by twenty-five feet wide, containing a cabin for the residence of the proprietor and his family, and a so a large ery rrianufactory, with a full set

factoring earthenware. The machinery is propelled by a windmill, which is elevated above the deck. he proprietor designs, the navigable season commences, to desce the Wisconsin and Mississippi~ rivers in his ark, stopping wlieresoevc-.r night ‘ overtakes him exhibiting the manner of inanufacturing the article, and selling his wares to the benighted inhabitants of the region. He anticipates ii profitable as well as an agreeable trip.

GLEAEIIGS PRO! LATE PAPERS.

The Royal Mail steamer Africa, at New York, from Liverpool, brought I13 passen- gers.

The ‘Africa is heavily armed, and is fitt- ed with port o es.

Sardinia and Holland repudiate priva- teering.

The tide of Emigration is fast turning from the United States towards the British North American Colonies.

A split has taken place, at Preston, a- men the operatives on strike, and it is evident that they will soon come to terms with their employers. At stockport the men are returning to work on the innster’s terms. At many places the advance made to workmen is about to be withdrawn.

The Emperor of France has ordered a prize of 6000 frunces to be offered for the ‘most useful invention tending to improve steam navigation or the construction "of xsteamsliips. The Aciideniy of Sciences is to award the prize.

A grain of " mummy wheat,” combnlin- ed, it is supposed, 2000 years before the Christianaer, was ilunted last year in the Isle ofCuinbi-se. I.ast harvest it yielded 5l7 grains, all lienlthy and good, which have been re-sown this spring.

Wii.r.ow,DocK—SoMit1'HiNG Nr.w.—The La Crosse (Wis,) Ilcmocral, oftlie 7th inst, states that the “ willow dock at that place is nearly completed. It will cost about $3,- 000. It is constructed entirely of willow twigs, about I2 feet long, bound in bundles one foot thick, which are so ingeniously arranged and woven together, a la Rliine that it is impossible foi-the sand to work out or the water to work in.”

These docks are used freely upon the banks of the Rhine, in Germany. The one at La Crosse is 235 feet front on the river, 160 feet deep, and I2 feet high; each bundle contains about 100 small trees, and it will take about 60,000 bundles of these willows to complete the work. It is said that these willows will sprout up and grow, rooting firmly together, thereby forming a living superstructure, which will last for ages without the least tendency to decay.

NEW EMri.ovmtN1' I-‘on Wosiitn -—In working the telegrziphs al the livcrpool, Manchester, and

ondon stations, a contemporary says that young women are now engined Their agile fingers, we have no doubt, will rattle over the keys with more rapidity than any young man’s