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had agreed to the amendment made by this Couneil to the ‘ Bill for
the Naturalization of Aliens.” And also that the House of Assembly
had passed a Bill relating to limited Partnerships.

The House then resolved itself into a committee of the whole ona
“Bill to estatlish the standard weight of Grain and Pulse, aud fer the
appointment of officers for measuring and weighing the same.”’ Hon.
Mr. Ramsay in the ebair, On the first clanse being read—

Hon. the PRESIDENT—It appears that the Act to regulate the
standard welght of Grain and Pulae Was allowed to expire in the year
i860, and durtng the year LS6l theré wast no Act for that purpose. hi

. si deseripti . 8 f ‘ now appears necessary that there shovdld be aa Act on our Statute
@e - _ Seaargtien era bold * office. When re er Book OF ry late she wtandard weight of Grain, Your Honors, are
overtiment were in power, somé four or five members of) \'\. thata Petition was presented t6 this House praying to have the
this House held office, besides two or three from the Legis-) standard weight of eats reduced to 34 pomnds; but | do not think that

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af ’ a . : ‘ » your Honors will be willing to grant the prayer of the Petiiioners ;
lative Council, Toe coatemplated measure will open the because I thik itis better to havea high standard. To reduce the

that were in that hody, when the present Government eame
into power? who but the hon. member opposite; the leade:
of the Opposition ?
Hon. Mr. COLE3—The same may be said of the leader
of the Government with respect to the last nomination.
Ton. Col, GRAY —Not of this McNab, but the other
MeNab. (badghter.) Under the pfoposed measure no nomi-

: oe at | This Eslattd is called the “Granary of North America,” and by shipping
bers of the Legisiature, [ may stare that if the contemplated ee > eg oml . inary of Nc u PE
the several kinds of grain is fo consist, except that of whest, which i
Roya! assent. It behoves this Committee, then, to consider
weiyhts shail be Avoirdupois
Hon. Mr. COLES—I entertained the hope that the hon. } with certain amendments.
lof Weights and Measures may be appointed for the above named
: alifient: Adjourned till to-morrow at LL o'clock.
main objection V6 it was that the property qualification for —T mac . Farpar, March 2let, 1862.
of £5.0; sof presume that the opinion of the hon. member! Also, a Petition of William C. Bourke and Pope Welsh, contractors
of the Dake of Neweastle on this matter, are owing to his| with in the other Beanch of the Legislatare; but I hope it will meet
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plaining that the members of the Legislative Council were) advantige to a large number of people, particularly at certain seasons

Way for the departmental sys’em again, as | think it will re- standard weight of oats would not only be injurious to the shippers of
saggest wdod grain we cat obtain a highér price if the market. ft yoy to
B ll, embodying the suggestions of the Duke of Newcastle, | me, however, that there is a slixht defect in the clause which has just
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be disallowed, it is doubtful whether any measure of the kind,
to be avoirdupois. I therefore move that the clause be amended by
striking out the word “ Avoirdupois,” folio 2, 2nd line, and after the
well what they are about in proceeding —— ey on .
rDvisi ; il] that ig to regulate a Goudy Which Wil! | Motion jiassed in the atlirmative. ; : :
ana, 8 a of a B Tie remaining clauses were agreed to withont any discussion, and
me just spoken, would have made some motion ; lion. Mr. Haszard presented a Petition of a committee nominated at
member, who has just sp | ©0 ]
bat I suppose i may offer a few remarks on the general sab- | a meeting of the inhabitants of Orwell and vicinity, praying that the
mer years was, that the qualification of electors was the SAME | piace | and also praying for a sum of money to purchase a set of Seales
as that of pee eating members for thie House ; bat, Sir, | and weights.
candidates was not high enough. Vv hen the Bill was sent of Hon. Mr. Palmer presented a Petition of William Cc. Burke, South
ehe upper Houfe, this was also the principal eomplaint IN| port, praving for remuneration for running a steaiaboat from Charlotte-
F r : | of Charlottetown Ferry, praying for remuneration for running an extra
agreed with that of the other Me Nab, in the other end of the | steamboat on said i His lionor, Mr. Palmer, on rising to present
visit with the Prince of Wales to these Colonies. I expect he | Wit # fovourable reception, und T pledge myself to. concur in any
grant which they may initiate to encourage the enterprise. During the
persons possessing no property, and when here kept it in re-
memberance, and was looking round a little. He probably

move the principal objections to offices being held by mem-| (rain, bat I consi ler that it would be injurious to the farmers as well,
| been read. It does not specify of what kind of weight the standard ot
whieh this House may bring forward, will receive the
word * pounds,’ folio 2, 7th line, inserting the words—** All these
have dhe power to thwart the measures of this House. | the House was then resmmed. Chairman reported the Bill agreed to
ject. Lic «tates timt his principal objeetion tothe Bill in for-|* andard weight of oats may be reduced to 34 pounds ;—that an Assayer
I observe by his fomarks on the measure last year, that his | Ordered, That the above named Petition do lie on the table.
that be y. and they proposed that it should be £1000 instead | town to Mount Stewart Bridge.
Duilding. 1 again express my conviction that the liberal views | this Petition said—t do not kuow what fate this Petition will nicet
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had seéu the memorial forwarded to the Colonial office com-| (oo. years the steambont on the river has been a very great
saw some that bad property, and one who tvas said to have

mone ; and perhaps he thoughtas he stood before this intelligent |

gentleman dressed up in bis red coat and other regimentals,

that he would make a more efficient Councilivr than those pos-| fucilitate, by "
1 will read an extract from a pamphlet, ferent sections of the country.

Bessing property.

which, ag it was written by a person holding a ‘high office in!

| of the year when our roads are almost impassible. Tam glad that there
fare such enterprising men in this cemmunity, and | hoy e that i
zvislative grant will be made in support of the andertaking. Of all
the items of public expenditure, [think that which tends to keep uy
steam communication between different places is the most beneficial te
the people of this Colony; and it is the duty of the Legislature t
every means in its power, the intercourse between
One of the heaviest taxes on oni
| farmers is the expence of conveying their produce to market. ‘To those
| who reside near a shipping port, the expense isnot so great ; but when

the present Government, ehows the views of, at least, sOMe | our farmers have to convey their produce any considerable distance t

of that party :—

** With an independent Governor, let the Colony have an |
independent Legisiative Council—the members of which shail |”),

market, it very materially reduces the profits of their farms.

This, and the Petition previously presented, were referred to the
| Special Committee on Miscellaneous subjects. :

| Billio continue the several Acts therein mentioned, and the

Possess each a freehold or leasehold estate in the Island, of the | Bij] to establish the standard weight of Grain and Pulse were read the

value of £500 sterling — and be appointed by the Governor,
without consulting his Exetutive Council. Such a Governor
‘and such a Council, would soon do away with the feeling of

insecurity which pervades tlie minds of all who possess pro- |

erty it the Island, and prevent mer of independent meant
leaving our shores, to seek a home where property is
protected, and its possession does not mark the owner as an
object Uf insult and plunder. During the past five years there

third time and passed. 4
| Hon. Mr. Palmer moved that the House do now go into a committee
on the Bill to incorporate the Ministerand Trustees of the Presbyterian
| Charch of Brookfield, Township 23.
| Hon. the PRESIDENT—I think it would be better to pass a general
| Act to incorporate all the congregations on the Island. It would be
| the means, not only of saving a great deal of trouble and expense, but
j of establishing a uniform system, and auiform rules, inthe different
congregations. have looked through the Act which is now before us,
jand compared it with an Act passed in the year 1860, for a similar

Ordered, That the Petition do lie on the table.

The House then resolved itself into a committee of the
whole on the Bill telating to limited Partnerships. Hun, Dr.
Johnser ifthe chiaif. :

Hom. the PRESIDENT=It appears that the principle
object of this Bill is to prevént fraud by what is called sleeping
partners. 1 mean persons whd ostensibly have the appearance
of doing alarge business, and when their creditors seize upon
them tlievy find that they have pones partners. By this Act
such a partner cannot be known ; because, if, on reference to
the place where the certificate is filed, his name is not found,
he cannot come in as a partner. Your Honors are aware
that a sleeping partner is only liable jor the amount which
he invests. ‘

Hon. Mr. SIMPSON—Am I to understand that the active
partners are liable for the whole, and the sleeping partners
only for the amount which they invest ? : :

lion. Mr. PRESIDENT—Yes, that is the meaning of it.

The committee having gone through the Bill, the House was
resumed, and the Chairman reported ‘+ the Bill agreed to,
without any amendment.’’

Hon. Mr. LLUTCHINSON presented a Petition of the City
Council of Charlottetown, signed by the Mayor, praying the
legislature to guarantee the payment of City Debentures to
the amount of £50005 with interest, for the purpose of build-
ing a new market house.

flon. Mr. HUTCHINSON, with reference to the above
named petition said—Previous to making a motion to dispose
of the petition, your Honors, | beg leave to say a few words
respecting it. Your Honors will perceive that if that amount
of money i# loaned te the City Corporation, the interest, at
the rate of 6 per vent, will amount to £300 per annum. Now,
it will be some time, supposing the means is obtained, before
the market house will be built and in operation, so that any
return can be received from it. ‘he interest, in the meantime,
would amount to such an enormous sum that the citizens
would be harassed to pay it, along with the amount of taxes
which they have to pay at present. I think the taxes would
heeome so intolerable that many would Jeave the city. But
I think there could be a remedy found. 1 know something
about the working of the City Corporation. ‘There is fur too
yreat a proportion of the revenue consumed in paying salaries.

Che following is the amount of salaries at present paid :—

Navi odo POLE ei ik eee e @
Malate’, os vi cveseei ies sioeeteieuiee er?
City Clerk ee ee cece reece n eee LID 0 Oo
City Marshal...) oc... cccscaccccesss00 10 0
Six Constables, at £60 each........360 0 06
City Trees iS. ot. iv Cate ee 1O' 9
WHMREE sox cedic hone ssereeeesae @ 'D
Assayer of Weights and Measures...,146 0 0
Clerk of Meal Market. ..,....020-+-,20 0 0
Clerk of Meat Market ...........-..20 0 0
CHINE. Backes ticle ita Ce Ge
Total for salaries, £870 10 O
Printing and Stationery........-..£73 6 3
Polien Clothing. oinacicnciesessocesseste. 9 0
PES EE REE mT — ey ae
Total, £1363 4 9

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| Now. along with this, how could we pay £300 for interest

hate been driven from this Island, by disgust at its Govera-| purpose, und I find that there is considerable dilference on several | On City debentures ?

thent, severa] gentlemen with families who spent nearly £10,-
000 a year in the Colony. Her Majesty's Government may

remedy those two evils without any danger of severing the |

union between this Island and the mother country — a com-
pany of fifty regular troops, supported, as they would be,
y

large numbers of the popalation, would suffice, at all times. | this necessarily involves the expenditure of a yreut deal of time and
, ,. *;

to maintain the supremacy of the law, and preserve order—

and should the Assembly refnse to proceed with the general janother Act on our Statute Book to incorporate the sume body of
business of the country, and co-operate with the Legislative |

Cvuncil and the Lieutenant Governor, in their joint endeavors
to carry on the Government of the Colony on just and honest
principleslet Her Majesty's Government annex the Island to
one of the neighbouring Provinces of Nova Scotia or New
Brunswick.”’

1 am glad that thé hon. leader of the Government in this
House i@ coming renad ; be says that the Elective Legislative |
Couner will open the door to carry ut the departmental sys- |
tem of government. I suppose, then, if the door be opened, |
we shall soon have the whole affair. He states that ander
the late Guveromest there were seven or eight members of the
Legislature holding office; but what difference does it make
as long as the members of the Government can appoint their
own relatives and friends to office. The hon. member might
have spared his allusion to the appointments to the Legisla |
tive Council, made by the late Government; their conduct)
was, at least, no worse than that of the present party, who,
had appointed five to be their subservient tools. I think this
question should have been a Government measure, and that)
a Bili ought to have been brought down framed in ace wrd-|
anee with the despatch of the Duke of Neweastle. I suppose
there will be very littie opposition to any part of the Bill,
exeept it be in regard to the amount oi qualification for
electors.

lion, Mr. HAVILAND—The hon. leader of the Opposition.
of cour#; mast oppose everything which proceeds from this
side of the Huse. He obj -cts because a Bill was not brought |
down by tue Govermme.t; bat. Sur, I think it would have been |
very dictaturial on our part to have pursued such a course,
when the Duke of Neweastle says that his despatets was to be
laid before the Legislature. As the hon. member desires |
bomething to epesk about, | will read a resolution : — |

** Resolved, That any male person of the age of twenty-one

a or upwards, who shall own a freenoid or leasehold qua-| Conoty, for selling spirituous liquor without license, whereas he was | means.
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fication of the vaiae of one hundred pounds currency, and_
wer have been in possession of the same for a period of at}
east twelve months previous tu the teste of the writ of Klee-|
tion, shall be entitled tv vote for a member to serve in the Le-|
gislative Counsil iu this Island.”

1 think we cannot well make the qualification lower than this ; |
to fix it at a less amount might endanger the measure, by |
again preventing it frem receiving the Royal assent. I was

certainly a:mased at the probable reason assigned by the hon. |
leader of the Opposition why the Duke of Neweastle came to)
the concluswn that members of tne Legislative Council do not |
require * property qualification, viz, because a eertain indivi-|
dual, when His Grace was here, wore a red coat and cocked |
hat. Lam a little astonished to hear that the luke could be!
convinced on this point by such things. Had the hon. member |
said that His Grece had formed this vpinion on account of the

trath in his statement.
Hon. Mr. HENSLE¥—I do not rise to express my views on

the resulation just submitted, bat to state that I have strong | 20" of each county, and I cannot see that it Would le uly more is

objection’ to the manner in which th's question has been!
brought “yp. Had it been introduced by a Bill, we would not |
be called upon to vote upon any point immediately ; bet as”
thie resolution has heen proposed, it may be necessary to vote,
Without having time to give the subject due consideration. |

Hon. Mr. HAVILAND—I consider that the course which |
has been taken is preferable, beeause an opportanity is af- |
forded to vote on the resolutions which may be submitted, |
es the Bill through all its stages.

Hon. Mr. HENSLEY—I cannot agree with the hon. and |
learned member for Georgetown on this point, because | do|
not approve of voting hastily upon 4 measure of such impor- |
tance

lion. the SPEAKER—Though this question had been
brought up by w Bui. yet it would not bave removed the ob-
jection of ‘the bon. and learned member for East Point, as
clauses contaiuing numbers or amuunts are generally inserted
with a blank.

fon. Mr. COLES~-tt would have been all very well had

is matéer not come here as the dictum of the Government.
Bat, Siry 4 centend that this eriaten oo deprive ~ reat
many respectable and comparatively wealthy people of the
privilege of yoting tor Legislative Councillurs—those who hold

rty by péskesion. Further, [ consider the qualification is
entirely too high; | think a property of the value of £50 is|
quite sufficient. { mote in amendment that the amount be
250 instead of £100.

Mr. DJIUsK—I think the qualification mentioned in the
resulution is sufficiently low. 1 aw in favor of keeping up the
respectatility of the Legislature, and think that the qualifi- |
€ation of electors shuuld be fixed at £206, and that they should
be required to have the titles to their property put 0» record. |

lion. Mr. COLES—If the bon. member for Belfast enter- |
tains that opinion, he should have supported a measure in-|
troduced owe years ayo requiring proprictors to put their!
tithes on reedrit. That Bill, Lowever, was objected to by the |
Secretary of State for the Colonies, and I suppose if a clause
were introduced inte the Couneil Bill, requiring electors to
‘do the same, it would also be refused the Royal assent.

Mr. BEER—When ! look at the despatch of the Duke of

castle, where he éayt, ** 1 would enforce a tolerably high |
operty qualification 1A the ¢ase of the electors,"’ | must say
enterta‘n some doubt whether the Bill with a clause fixing
the qoalifieation st £100 will meet his approval. [ certainly
think that were we to.make it £200 instead of £100, the Bill
would be more likely to reveive the Royal assent. £100,
hawever, appears to be as high as the circumstances of the
Coluay will adwit of.

( To be continued.)
[Some further report matter which should appear in several
= mn as first page, has not yet been supplied by the

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

Tavnspay, March 20.
‘Won. Mr. Palmer, a member of the Exeeutive Council, laid on the
table tar Warrant Book for the financial year ending, January dist, L862.
On mation of Hon. Mr. Walker a Bill, intitaled “ An Act to edutinae
the several Acts therein meutioued "’ was committed to a committer of
the whole Honse, and the same was agreed to without any amendment.
By this Ul ise Act relating to the tloating of Logs, Scantling, Deals, &c.,
down the Rivess aud Streams of this fs and the Aet to Incorporate
the Grand and Snbordinate Divisions of the Sons of Temperance are

continued fur ten years.

Hon. Mr. Patover, a ber of the E tive Council,

of His Excellency the Licutewant Governor, laid on the tab

th Dies

Book for the year 1860, aus) alsothe Warrantdsoy tor the + sy

Hon. Mr. Painter aso presented a copy of a from His

pew adm Glee pty eer “ Downing Street, Feb. 7, 1862,"

a copy of the erat. . a ‘umes by
lion. Mr. Palmer presented

the pe g tone Charek of Brookfield, Lat 23, and others praying for

an Act “4

A was brought from the Howse ™f Assembly by Mr. Holm
wich « Bil! to ine: the Ming f ryterian
— iid hot ny, Miniator and Trestees of tbe terian

A mesmige was ntso from the Honse of Axsembly by the

/ time there is nothing objectia
| several congregations may

| would have to be a pretty long one, and therefore, I do not see that

| Folio, 10th line.

& Petition of William Ross, Minister of

| points, therefore I think it is quite possible that differences. may arise
4 acer be different congrevations of the same denomination. If there
| Were one general Act passed 1 ihiak it would be snificient. At least
/a very short Act to enable each congregation to work separately, is all
; that would be required. I believe that during the last 4 years at least
}20 Acts have been passed to incorporate different congregations, and

money.
| Hon. Mr. PALMER —It escaped my observation that there was

christians. If there is one Ll think it might be amended so as to meet
the requirements of the parties who petitioned for this Act. On my
return from Georgetown u few days avo, a Petition was handed to m«
praying for this Act, and L considered it to be my duty to neeede to the
prayer of the Petitioners. 1 do not see that itis necessary to have a
separate Act of incorporation for each congregation; but at the same
i ble, in principle, to such a course. The

parately, and they may wish to vary
their rules as circumstances may require. In mosteases where private
Acts are passe 1, the parties themselves have to bear the expense, and
if such # course were adopted here, they would probably Rct on the

| Hon. the PKESIDENT.—What is the amount at present
assessed for?

Hon. Mr. IUTCHINSON—The Corporation has the power by Sta-
tute to assess for £1900; and by a bye Law, which requires to be sane-
tioned annually by the Governor in Council, they can assess for £250
more for gas. Now I think some of these ollices can be done away
with altogether; and the salaries attached to some of the others so re-
duced, that we would save enough to pay the interest of the amount
required to build the inarket house. It is the general opinion that the
mayor should serve gratis; but say we will allow him £00. 1 would
reduce the expenses of the Corporation iu this way—

BAVOR + a -onseunvce Rhee dees csnwbes £50 0 0
ONE 5s dintawdnne pig tense cernccones 7> 0 0
Ce BIE ook itovt aces cinanndanecs 65 0 0
i ee ER ae 30 0 0
Cay Sarvoyer. i... c..06.<. wide iene Hania i 0 0
Cotlectne ind oad deen k4haoe ve cheodonpes 30.0 =O
Printing and Stationary............-... 0.0 0
GINS no pascccesones tepeghahereksbarage 330 0 0

Wileiaites Jie een £630 0 0

wrinciple which has been suggested by His Honor the President.
laces Lthink almost every denomination on the Island is now in
corporated, and so there will not be many more Acts required. If the}
plin suggested by His Honor had been adopted 15 or 20 years ago, |
something might have been saved, but I do not think there is mach to
be saved et this late period. Besides, if there were but one Act it |
the diifereace on the score of economy would be very material.

fion, the PRESIDENT—I do not intend to oppose the passing of

cougregation. But if the Acts of the colony are to be reprinted, 1)

Thus effecting a saving of £680.
the City taxes.
sen. IL think I have now suid enouzh to show that sulticient might be |
saved to pay the inierest on the amount required to build this market

house. 1 move tiat the petition be referred to the Special committee on
niiscellaneous subjects.

I think the Wartinger should collect

the City Corporation, I may say that L have never been a frienu of ii,

ition being re*ived

to fulfil such important fonetivna, and their thanks
for his services, are all that snch an officer looks for.
I have no objection to the
It was offered to me and I o' jected, because I do not
approve of the proposed site of the Building.

he Petition was received, and referred to the

special Committee on miscellaneous subjects.
House adjourned till to-morrow at eleven o'clock.

___ BORRESPONDENCE,

DREADFUL IGNORANCE IN ENGLAND.
No. 10.
To tue Epiror or tHe EXaminer.

Dear Str,—Having in my last two letters shewn
the immense efforts which have been made for the } PUTPO
education of the people by those Catholic countries
which are generally represented to be the most ig-
norant and degraded in the world, I may be permit-
ted to give a short account of the state of education
As England is the

in some Protestant countries.

richest, most powerful, and most energetic Pyotes-
tant country in the world, I presume that it will not
be considered unfair to take the’ state of education
amongst the English as an index of the efforts made
by Protestantism for the intellectual training of the
masses. There are no people who speak so contemp-
tuously of the ignorance of Catholic countries as the
majority of Brilish Protestants, and there are none

who boast so exultingly of their own superiority in

all things.

This being the case one would naturally
suppose that the people of England are more intelli-

gent, more refined, and better educated than any

other people in the world.

hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own
eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out

a

of thy brother's eye.

His Royal Highness the late Prince Consort,
whose sudden and much lamented death lately cast
a gloom over the whole nation, was well aware of
the appalling ignorance which prevails in England,
June,
1857. as President of the * Educational Conference’’
he gives a gloomy picture of the juvenile education

and in the address which he made on the 2

of England. His Royal Highness said :—

“We are told that the total population in England
and Wales, of children between the ayes of three
2,046,-
843 attend school at all, while 2,361,853 receive no
At the sume time an analysis
of the scholars with reference to the length of time
allowed for school tuition shows that 42 per cent ot
them have been at school less than one year, 22 per
cent during one year, 15 per cent during two years,
9 per cent during three*years, 5 per cent during four
Therefore,
out of the two millions of scholars alluded to, more

and fifteen being estimated at 4,908,696, only

instruction whatever.

years, and 4 per cent during five years.

We shall see from the
most reliable testimony of British Protestants whe-
ther or not the following text can with justice be
applied to this most Protestant country——“ Thou

than one million and a balf remain only two years

at school.
of such an education can be.

these are startling facts.”

Mr. Kay, the Protestant Travelling Bachelor of
the University of Cambridge, in the work from
which I quoted in my last letter, gives a fearfu!
picture of the almost incredible and brutal ignorance

I leave it to you to judge what the resulis
I tind, further, that of
these two millions of children attending school only
about 600,000 are above the age of uine. Gentlemen,

of millions of the English. This learned, Pretestant

gentleman says :—
“If the object of government is to create an enor

mously wealthy clase, and to raise to the highest

point the civilization of about one-fifth of the nation,
while it leaves nearly three fifths of the nation sunk

in the lowest depths of ignorance, helplessness and

degradation, thee the system hitherto pursued in
Great Britain is perfect....We have poor clasves,
FORMING THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS
couNTRY (the italics are his) more ignorant, more

pauperised, and more morally degraded than the
— classes of most of the countries of Western

jurope. And here itis that Englishmen:

i i “ght well
He is not employed as Wartinger, in the winter sea- | #lord sometimes to forget their pride in their own
: country, and to learn a lesson from other lands.

(The Social condition and Education of the People,

vol. 1, p. 6.)

© Of the children of the poor, whoare yearly born
Hoa. the PRESIDENT—I have listened wich a good deal of interest | in England, vast nnmbers never receive any ednea-
this Act. I think we should pass it as it has been asked for by the | to the statements made by his honor, Mr. Hatchiusou; and in regard to | Hon at all, while many others never enter anything

better than a Came ora Sunday-school. Inthe towns

think a general Act of incorporation might ‘be passed which would | because I do not think there is any necessity for all this cumberous ma they are left in crowds until about eight or nine
serve all the purposes required, and save a greut deal of time and | chinery to manage the affiirs of this little Town. Just look at their! Years of age, to amuse themselves in the dirt of the

tronble, and whieh would also secure uniformity of action.

present position :

‘They are in debit to the amount of nearly £159), | streets.

In these public tsoroughfares, during the

The Honse then resslved itself into a committee of the whole on the| Chat is enongh to show that their atfairs are not in a very healthy state. | pert of their lives Which is most susceptible of in-
o ’ . be by " ‘ « 1, ry a 1 os .
Ard now they come forward aud ask the Legislature to vuurantee the | pressions, and m st retentive of them, they Require

aforesaid Bill. Hon. Mr. Palmer in the chair.

On motion of His Honor the President, the 7th clause was amended, |
by striking out the words—‘ as well, ’—(Folio 8—line Y,) and inserting |
the words * the whole; and by striking out the word—* us,"’-—same

The committee having gone throngh the Bili the House was resumed,
and the chairman reported ** The Biil agreed to with certain amend- |
ments,” *

The following Petitions were presented to the House, and the samme |
Were received and read :-— |

Presented by Hon. Mr. Gardiner—A Petition of certain inhabitants |
of Middleton und vicinity, Lot 27, praying for the establishment of a |
Post Oifice.

By Hon. Mr. Ramsay—A Petition of divers inhabitants of Lots 3, 4,
7 and 8, praying for the establishment of a Commissioners Court.

By Hon. Mr. Walker—A Petition of John Preston, Tiguish, Lot 1,
stating that he had been fined twice by the Grand Jury of Prince |

guilty of but one offence, and praying redress. The three proceeding |
Petitions were referred to the Special Committee on Miscellaneous |
subjects.
By Hon. Dr. Johnson—A Petition of Mary Ann Shea, Charlottetown, |
widow, in indigent cirenmstances, praying for relief. |
Also, a Petition of Mary Connely, Charlottetown, cripple, praying |

| for relief. |

for relief.
By Hon. Mr. Hutchinson—A Petition of Mary Martin, widow, in
indigent circumstances, praying for relief.
by Hou. Mr. Paluer—A Petition of Mary Donnelly, praying for |
relicf. % |
The five last named Petitions were referredto the Special Committee |
—— tu report on pauper Petitions. : :
fon. Mr. PALMER on rising to present the list named Petition said |
—I trast that the day is not far distant when some other method will |
be adopted of vo.ing paltry sums for the relief of persons in indigent
circumstances; for I look upon it as by no means compatible with the
dignity of the Levislature, es} ecially of the Upper Branch, to sit here

spoken on this subject in the other Brancl: of the Leyislature, but had |
have sometimes preposed to place the matterin the hands of the Grand |

paraying to their honor or dignity, than to that of the Legislature.
Besides, Lam of opinion that if that mode were adopted, the object
would be much more etliciently carried out, because there would be a
greater certainty that the pet sonsapplying for relief would be known,
aud therefore, more judicious grants would be made. As it is at present,
a Petition comes ia from a distant part of the country, and the circum-
stances of the person may not be known to more than two or three, or
perhaps to none, of the members of the Legislature. Surely the
circumstances of a pauper in a distant part of Prince County would be
better known to the Grand Jury of that county than to the Legislature
Otherwise, a certain number of personas might be appointed in each
county to take charge of the mutter; and then all the Legislature
would have to do would be to vote « certain sum of money, each year,
for each county, and let them have the distribution of it. ‘The Legisla-
ture would then be free from this aunoyance.

Hon. Me, Walker presented a Petition of Mary Mullens, of Char-
lottetown, a widow, in indigent circumstances, praying for relief.
Referred to the Special Committee on paupers petitions.

lion. the President presented a Petition of William Swabey and
others, holders of marsh land on the Hillsborough River, setiing forth
that cattle which are allowed to run at large, are in the habit of
trespassing upon their marshes, and praying this Council to coneur with
the House of Assembly in passing such an Act as will remedy the
grievance complained of.

iis Honor the PRESIDENT in presenting this Petition said—It
appears that cattle are in the habitof trespassing on those innarshes and
destroying the hay which has been made and stacked. When the
Petition was handed to me by a certain person, I asked him if the
stacks could not be fenced. His reply was—No, it is impossible on
acconnt of the water. Now, if it is a general complaint,—if the |
stacks caunot be fenced, nor the hay got away whea it is made—t|
think a general Act should be passed to remedy the evil complained of
I therefore suggest that the Petition be referred to a special cominittec
to report thereon. Tum not sutliciently cognizant with marsh lauds te

esi a remedy.

on. Mr. SIMPSON—I do not think it is worth while to
put the country tu the expense of passing an Act for such a
purpose. The petitioners, it appears, bave to raise their
stacks two feet from the ground so as to be out of the way ol
the tide, ani if they raise them tw» feet more they will be
out of the way of the cattle. There are marshes and sand
hills at New London, Rustico and various other places, on
wisich cattle often trespass; but I do not concede that it is
necessary to pass an Act to protect them. The hay is quite
secure on the marshes till the frost sets in, and then it can be
removed.
Hon. Mr. RAMSAY—I have a small marsh myself and it
would be a great advantage to get the public to fence it for
me ; but i think this ig the most preposterous Petition that 1
have ever seen presented to this tuuse, and therefore, I can-
not sapport the prayer of it.

Hon. the PRESIVENT—1 do not think it was the object
of the petitioners to get the public to build fences for them,
but to have an Act passed comp-lling the inhabitants to keep
their cattle confined. As [ suid before. Lam not sufficiently
cognizant of the nature of the grievance complained of, to!
suggest aremedy. [¢ has beea shown by Lits flonor Mr.
| Simpson that no trespasses take place till the frost gets in,
, and I think it is the daty of the parties whoown the property
to pate it. 1 am content simply to receive the Petition
and allow it to lie on the table.

Hon. Mr. RAMSAY—It would be a g-eat hardship for a
man tobe compelled to keep his cattle and sheep confined in
the winter seasun. How can he keep them when his fences
ate drifted op with snow? They will walk over them.

Hon. Mr. 5IMPS5ON—If an Act of that nature were passed
it would have to be a general Act, a: 1 donot see how
farmers can be compelied to keep their cattle confined in the
Winter. They will ran over the fences when they are drifted
up withsnow. |

Hon. Mr. GARDINER—Would it not be an improvement
to have an Act to compel farmers to keep their cattle confined.
Mine are all watered in, and never go out of the yard, in the
wintet. { own two marshes myself, and [ am Jabouring
under a disadvantage, because 1 keep my cattle confined while
those of my neighbours are running at large. But I do not
take my dug ore drive them on slippery ice as some people
do. TI would like to see some way of remedying the grievance,
but I do not see how We cah pass an Act for that purpose.

on. Dr. JOUNSON~Marshes ate all private property
here, and [ do not see how we ean remedy the evil com plain-

| to veceive for it.

; tion.

ed of. it appears to me to bs one of those cases in which there uy

payment of £500) more. That, L woukl ask, has the City Corporation

dirty, immoral, and disorderly habits ;
doue since its commencenfent? It lias incveased oar taxes six fold; | 2¢customcd to wear filthy and ragged clothes ; they |

they becoun

r

and when a man pays bis gmoney he is likely to ask what benctit he is | learn to pilfer and to steal; they associate with boy:

Our streets are in a worse condition than when the
luanavemnent of them was inthe hands of the general Government. Nor

| who have been in prison, and who have there beer. |
hardened in crime by evilassociates ; thepdearn bow
can L see that thore six Policemeu are any great Lenetit to the Town. | t Curse one another, how to fight. how to gamble |

tual darkness which enshrot@s Wim.

vence in bis countenance.
is more that of an animal than of a man.

them to

belong to a generation, for whose intellectual eu
ture little or nothing was done.

SUBJECT 18 ONE WHICH DOES NOT ADMIT OF EXAG
GERATION.
se be served

which this class of British subjects is steeped

and the examples start up around you in handreds
[ have found it so in al
versed —from Salisbury to the Land’s-end — frou
Portland-bill to Oxtord—in the vale of the Torridge

and the Plym.
difficult to point out the worst.

ot

from Scotch blood!

gence of the partially instructed half of our poore:
classes? It is miserable.

and everlasting burning ; of our Lerd Jesus Chiriet

women, or by men of the lowest attainments....

rooms for the different classes ; only «ne teacher for
each sco]; no maps; very few books; and no ap
paratus for instruction.

stand the greater part of the

England.” (pp. 584 &c.)

p. 39.) What a contrast there is between the “im

in England? How many of our teachers are only
inostracted women, or poor uneducated artizans ;
or rade and unlettered pedagogues; or even immo-
ral and low-minded men? (p. 266.) There can be

#nd morality, than any gin-palace in the land
It would be far, far

etter for many a parish in

those they have at present.” (p. 277.)
Towards the close of his second volumn our can-
did English Protestant Travelling Bachelor writes:

**T will give a short summary of the present state
of primary education in England and Wales, as col-
lected froi the reports of Her Majesty’s Inspectors,
of the Commissioners of Inquiry in Wales, of the
National Society, of the Statistical Society, and of
the City Mission, from Mr. Redgrave’s reports, from
very able articles in the North British Review, and
from numerous personal inquiries in various parts of
England and Wales.

“1. It has been calculated that there are at the
present day,in England and Wales, nearly 8,000,000
(EIGHT MiLLioNns!) persons who cannot read and
write.

* Of all the children in England and Wales, be-
tween the ages of five and fourteen, MORE THAN THE
HALF ANE NOT ATTENDING ANY SCHOOL.

“3. Evenof the class of the farmers,there are grea’
numbers who cannot read and write.

“4. Even of those children of the poor, who have

wok ut the whole of their cumberous machinery! F would be williug | ad how to fill up idle hours by vicious pastimes; | received some instruction, very few know any thing

to have an Act pussed to repeal the Corporation Act, aud let the gene
ral Government assume their debts. The Corporation will never be
out of debt.

When they have power to assess for 421000, and are pay- | and they are not taught the truths of relig

ing salaries to the Y ne: : ), what benefit can the Pab-| W8y by which to improve their condition in life. | practice in reading, writing, and ‘Scripture histery.
v salaries to the amouut of nearly , What beneht can the Pa \ fing. u ee. | iS | a)

lic expect? It is altogethervout of proportion, and it is the men who | Pheir aumsements are as low as their habits.
lave means who sufler. They make as pay. Tbisis an act of gross | ¢Xcitements of | low debaachery too horrible to be |
injuctice, ‘The poor people of this Town cannot atford to keep five or nated, of spirituous liquors, which they be win to |
six policemen walking abont dressed in their uniioan, and with their drink us curly ax they can collect peace wherewith | of the Bil
Tue Corporatiog is entirely too expensive for our |
What I complain of is, that the amount collected by taxation | ©

silver buttons.

© buy them, of the commission and concealuents of |

befts, and of rash and disgusting sports, are the

is between S00 and £900, aud tifiat the whole of it is absorbed by the Pleasares of their life. The idea of going to musicx}

salaries. The revenue, it is trug, is more than that.
ing over t e City aceounts, and I see that the amount received last
vear for licenses was £469, Fines £265, Whartage -
City is in debi to the amount of pearly L150. Aud now, just one re-
mark in regard to the market house paying. i

expect from it is from 1 te 2) per cent.
for the Corporation to pay the interest from thai source.

Hon. Mr. SIMPSON—It is quite preposterous to have such a large |
amount of the City revenne consumed ym paying salaries; bat Ido not
see how they are to be reduced xcept by togal enactinent as they are
fixed by statate. :

Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—No,.—only one.

Hon, Mr. PALMER—The prayer of the petition, I understand, is
asking the Government to guaragteea loan ef £0000—to be responsible |
for the principal and interest. This petition, it appears, has given rise |

the L to some discussion on the working of the Corporation in weneral. Now, | ture of the degradation of English children with the
le ‘a talents, we might believe that there was some | and vote such paltry grants for the relief of Paupers. I have often | sir, 1 confess that though originally a supporter of tue Corporation

Act, and though I still desire to see it coutinned, yet I have been a good

olheers, or that we pay them too highly; for if we want to have well- |
qualified and trast-worthy men, it is useless to expect that they can be |
screwed down to paltry salaries,

subject for the people themselves to decide. must say further, in ex- |
pressing ny disappointment, that the. City regulations have not been |
carried out us fully as they should have been. I cannot acquit the sub- |
ordinate officers of a little laxity in the discharge of their duty.
Ciiy increases in pophlation, so will the necessity for City authorities |
increase. And as every man cannot be bis ow” constable nor his own
Justice of the Peace ; and as it is necessary that the Laws should be |
administered effectually, Police ofticers are appointed for that purpose. |

It is unpleasant for a man to be ronsed ap to rush into a mob in order | nor Write, never have been in any school, and kuow
to quell it; it is unpleasant for him to perform many of those little of-| little or positively nothing, of the doctrines of the
tices, and rather than do so he is willing to sabmit to a small taxation. | Christian religion, of moral duties or of any higher
When men accept those oifices, they should not hesitate to perform | pleasures than beer or spirit-drinking and the gross-
But whether we should concur with the Honse of Assem- | est sensual indulgence.
keeping and farmer classes, there are great numbers
who can neither read nor write, and who have never
I would like to see a good | entered eveu a Sunday school.
market house, but I would not stand up bere and say that the whole thing for even farmers, whe are members of the

; union board of guardians in the midiand and east-
country generally contribute towards the object. Let the people of | erm counties of England, to sign their names with a

their duty.
bly in granting a sum of money for the erection of a market house, is
another, and a very serious question. [ would think loug upon the
matter before I would give it my sanction.

expense should devolve upon the people of Charlottetown. Let the

,and yet the! for them to attend.
‘ to them.

}up to manhood,

Ihave been look. | meetings, such as those of the German poor, would | ! : “sae
| be scotiedat, even if there were any such meetings | structed dames, whothus seck to make a livelihooc
Innocent danciag is unkn »wn | #24 whe titerally do no good to the children, except
Read it be heeping them for a certain nrunber of honrs in
It has been estimated | tey cannot. So they hurry for amnsement and ex- | @'¢ ay out of the dirt and out of worse society.
that the expense of keeping buiMings in'repuirin this Town is 10 per | a to the yratification of sensual desires and |
By Hon. Mr. Walker—A Petitionof Nancy McRory, pauper, praying | Cent. So then, if the market house costs £002), the expense-of keep- | UPpetites.

Country sports they cannct have.

examine our criminal records or who will visit the |

back streets of any I

are fail, and count the children upon the door-steps

aceount which Mr. Kay gives of tne education of
not influence enouzh to induce that House to adopt any other mode. 1) «cal disuppoiuted in the working of it. Not that we have too many | the children of the “ Romanist” part of Germany
in which he says, ‘* All the children are intelligent, |
xt ) i ! 4 polite, clean, aud neatly dressed, and grow up from |
1 i Phe wachinery of the Corporation | their sixth to their fourteenth year under the teach-
may be ont of proportion to the means of this small city; but that is a | ing and influence of educated men.”

are without any schools atall; the instruction given
As the | in, most of the schools which are established, is

miserable in its character ; infant schools are terribly
needed in almost every townin England. Efficient
teachers are needed every where. .

| and pavements, and note their condition, manners,| | ‘
}and xppearance, and their degraded and disgusting | 8¢00ls, we have not even then one-half as may
| practices.” )

(pp. 34 & 35.)
Let Mr. Laird contrast this sad and revolting pic-

(2, p. 288.)
Mr. Kay continues thus :— Many town parishes

(p. 35.)
**About ONE HALF of our poor can neither read

cugtish town, when the schools | he

Even of the small shop

The} s

“5. Of the teachers who are officiating in many | the City is concerned, I fancy that the men who

of the village schools, there are many who cannot |

scholars.
} ‘6. A very great part of onr present village and
| town schools are managed by poor and miserably

,

“7. Many of these dame schools are so wretchedly

In this mauner, filthy, lewd, sensual, | managed as to dothe childrena very great deal more
jing it ia repair will be £900 per annem; aud all the return you czn | boisterous, and skilful ba the eonnuission of crime, | harm than good,—by aniting miserable associations |
It will theretore be impossible # great part of the populations of our towns grow | with the sacred writings, and with the subjects of

5 Of the truth or falsehood of this| the wretched instruction given in these schools.
description any one can convince himself who will4

“8. Very many of our town schools are held in
small and unventilated cellars or garrets, where the
alth of the children is seriously impaired.

“9. If we except only the worst part of the dame
school-buildings as we require, for the present nun -
bers of our population.

_ “10. By far the greater part of onr school-build-
ings have only one room, in which all the class s
are instructed together, in the midst of noise and
foul air.

“11. Many of our school-rooms have ne forms and
no parallel desks,—both of which are to be found in
every school-room through Western Europe,—and
inall such schools the children are kept standing the
whole day.”

Mr. Kay continues this fearful list up to No. 30,
showing the awfully neglected state of education in
England; and some of the particulars which be
gives of numbers of the schools are traly horrifying.

It is with shame and sorrow that I have tran-
scribed the above extracts, showing the deep and
unspeakable ignorance and brutal degradation of vast
multitudes of the richest and most Protestant coun-
try, perhaps, in the world; with shame, for, asa

| British subject, I blush to think that any persons
Itisa very common | Under the Government of our beloved Queen should
| bein the debased and heathen-state in which millions
| of Englishmen are proved to be; and with sorrow,

Queen's County contribute at least one half of the sum required, and || cross, from being unable to write. None of all this| for I regret that such immense numbers of the in-

would be willing to give them one half of the profits. Why ask the | class can ever search the Seriptares for themselves :
Legislature to guarantee the payment of the whole £5000. “I think it | few of them can give their children any instruction,

Padlstetnte to surrender the most valuable | a8 they have never experienced the benefit of in-
site on our principal square for a market honse, withoutany eqnivalent, | struction themselves ; scarcely any of them are sen-
and now to ask us to guarantee a loan of £5000 to build the market | sible enough to even desire to improve their condi-
house, is more than I can give my sanction to. I hope and trast that | Hon in life; scarcely any of them ever enter into a
the lower House will not think of acceding to the prayer of the peti- , place of publie worship, or ever come into contact
| with a religious minister; none of them understand
anything of the phenomena of nature around them,
of the thoughts and wishes of their age, of their own
situation here, or of the mysterious change before
them. They live precisely like brutes, to gratify as
far as their means will allow, the appetites of their
uncultivated bodies, and then die to go they never
thought, cared, or wondered whither.” :

Mr. Laird will we that Mr. Kay is
describing, not T Hindoos, Hottentots or
Se oo but Protestant Englishmen.

Prote

was a great ovcrsight of the

For my part Ishall record my veteaguinst it. If a market house
is to be built, the people of Queen’s Coanty, and also of the other two
Counties, should contribute towards it. If there were no market house
the people in town would have everything they want brouglit to their
doors ; and therefore 1 cannot see that there is such a great advantage
to be derived from it as to induce us te tax ourselves and our children
to the extent @£ £5000, for the purpose of building it. Iam not op-
posed to just taxation. I think it is necessary forthe purpose of carry-
ing on a good Government. Neither would [ like to see the City Cor-
portion abolished, if it ean be worked cheaper than ig is at present. We
may now be paying more than we should, but the remedy lies with the
people themselves. If they consider that they are over-taxed, they
will have to petition to have their taxes reduced. At present I must
say that F will withhold my support from the prayer of the petition.

Hon. Mr. SIMPSON—I think it is a matter for the people of the city
themselves to decide. If the amount collected by assessment is only
£300, aud it takes nearly £909 to pay the salaries, | consider that they
are in & poor position to come before the Legislature to ask it to guar-
antee the payment of a loan. I think the City should build the mar-
ket house. I would not consent to tax the whole country for that pur-
pose. The machinery of the City Corporation is certainfy very expen-
sive. They should live within their income. But the matter is in the
hands of the people themselves. Let them bring it up ai the next elee-
tion; that is the time to decide it.

Hon. Mr. HUPCHINSON—His Honor, Mr. Simpson, speaks of the
inhabitants of the Town building the market house themselves. Now,
it is well known that we have no real estate. The commonsuare in the
hands of private individuals. Land which should belony to the Town,
is oceupied by persons, most of whom paid very little for it. When the
Corporation Act was passed, they took good care to keep us from even
getting the land on the shoals. If the shoals in the eastern part of the
Town had been left to the Corporation, they would be valuable; but
all we have is what can be collected from the wharves, and from |i-
censes and fines. The City is incorporated, but we have no revenue
to carry iton. Except the Legislature does something, Ido not see
how the market house is to be built. Ihave heard that some of the
people who have been worng for the Corporation, have already re-
rused to take the City paper. Ifa suitable market house were erected,
I believe it would pay.

Hon. the PRESIDENT—No, never.

Hon. Mr. HUTCHINSON—There are some officers connected with
the Corporation, who can be dispensed with, and whose salaries amount
to about £309. And then there is the gas; but what is the use of
burning gas in the streets in a poor scattered town like this? What is
the use of paying so much for it, when there is no real benefit derived
from it? If the streets and sidewalks were improved, it would be niore
benefit than the gas. If the citizens in particular parts of the Town
wish to have the gas, let them apply to the City Council to asesss those
parts for that purpose; bat sete a it upon people, in other parts,
who do not desire it? In Eng there is a law to the effect that no
person can be compelled to pay for gas unless he derives some benefit
from it.

Hon. Dr. JOHNSON—I approve of the principle of Civie Corpora-
tions. Condensed masses of people uire such special adoption of
Law and Police. In England they could not carry ou a City Govern-
ment without a Corporation. Their Towns, as they increase in popu-
lation, require increased protection ; and therefore their Police estab-
lishments are necessary. 1 once had the honor of being Chief Magis-
trate of a Town in England which wus two or three times as large as
Charlottetown. There, it is not expected that the Mayor is to receive
any pecuniary remuneration for bis services. He has a small allow-
ance for those objects of charity to which the Chief Magistrate is ex-
ted to contribute; but I venture to say that there is not a Mayor in

England who puts a farthing into his pocket, from what he receives as

bronght
im. Mr. thavilaud, iuforming this Houce thai the House of Asse Publy

RN il isin Seia ne meeaeee

are adysniages an} disadvantages.

auch. The houorable confidence of hie fellow citizens in electing hina

have not examined for themselves the reports of the
inspectors of school
missioners, or those of the visitors, chaplains, inspec-
tors, and governors of our prisous, or those of the
city missionaries, or the admirable letters published
in the * Times’ and ‘ Chronicle.’
have examined these reports will know that I have
UNDERSTATED THE DEEP IGNORANCE of our
classes. The reports to which I allude discloses a
degree of ignorance, which must be quite incredible
tu all who have not given their attention to the study
of these facts. I might fill volumes with quotations
confirmatory of my statements, but as my space does
not allow me to do more than state the fact, lam
obliged to refer my readers to these reports for proof
of the universal trath of what I have affirmed. If
these poor creatures commit what the more intelli-
gent classes call ‘crimes against society '"—if thev
are improvident and immoral—if they bave no love
tor the society which has left, if it has not made, them
thus degraded,—and if they punish that society by
burdening it with vice and pauperis, is ita matter of
great surprise? Brought up in the darkness of bar-
barism, they have no idea that it is possible for them
toattuin any higher condition; they are not even
sentient enough to desire, with any strength of feel-
ing, to change their situation; they are not intelli-
gent enough to be perseveringly discontented ; they
ure not Sensible to what we call the voice of con-
science ; they do not udeerstand tie necessity of
avoiding crime, beyond the mere fear of the police
andagaol....they eat, drink, breed, work, and die ;
and while they pass through their brute-like exis.
tence bere, the richer and more inteHigent classes
are obliged to guard them with police and standing
armies, and to cover the land with prisons, ca

and all kinds of receptacles for those who in their
thoughtlessness or mise
piness of their more intelligent neighbours.

in the fields the external world h
them throngh the

strangers. You cannot address one of

(p. 580.)

Our

mt Bachelor continues :—
*“ Allthis must seem exaggeratton to those who

or those of the Welsh Com-

But those who

porer

disturb the quietand hap-

“The very able correspondent of the ‘ Mornin

and move and have their being. As they work

L as some hold upon
medium of their senses; but to

al] the higher exercises of intellect they are perfect

habitants of the once happy and merry England
should “live,” to use Mr. Kay’s words, “ precisely
like brutes, to gratify, as far as their means allow,
the appetites of their uncultivated bodies, and then
die, to go they have never thought, cared, or won-
dered whither.” I told my opponents that I would
bring under their consideration facts which would
be rather disagreeable to them, and I think that I
have done so in thiscommuniation. If our Protes-
tant friends Were aware of these facts, would we
be so often insulted and taunted regarding the igno-
rance of Catholic countries? Would Italy and
Spain, Austria and France, Ireland and Lower Ca-
nada, Chili and Pern, be so often held up to public
scorn as immersed in the depths of superstition? In
the face of these facts, why are our sehools and col-
leges, nunneries and convents, ridienled and attack-
ed, misrepresented and calumniated? Would it
not be far better for Protestant journalists, and no-
Popery declaimers, to make some efforts to remove
the deplorable ignorance and degradation of their
own people, than to be calumniating Catholics by
representing them as teaching that “ Ignorance is
the mother of devotion”? Mr. Laird and his staff
of assistants may learn when it is too late, that it is
very rash for those living in glass houses to be al-
Ways throwing stones at their neighbours.

I advise Mr. Laird and his friends to ponder well
the extracts above given, as well as the following
important truth admitted by Mr. Kay :—“ And yet,

alas! Romanist countries have far outstripped us in
the eagerness with which they are promoting the
gar >| of peed aay og They understand the
signs of the times, but we have yet to learn .
(Vol. 2, p. 511.) e _
I remain, dear Sir,
Your obd’t and hamble sery't,

A. McDONALD.
St. Dunstan's College, April 2d, 1862.

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I know thee to thy bottom; from within
Thy shallow centre to the utmost skin.—Darypew.

To Tre Eprror or THe EXAMINER.

Sir,—Some thick-skinned and thick-headed wri
ter has made my letter the subject of some very
impertinent rewarks in the last No. of the jaun-

" diced called the Monitor. onera
Chronicle,’ in one of his letters on the condition of ay Pile wh
the peasants in the rural districts of England, pub-
lished on Dec. Ist, 1849, says :—' Taking the adult
class of the agricultural labourers, it is almost im-
gee tc exaggerate the ignorance in which they
ive

Cooper trom the charge of having written them, as
his labors are 80 onerous in the capacity of Clerk
of the Legisiative Council as to preclude the idea

them, with-

ing to him for

out being at once painfully eteuck with the intellee-
t There is in
general neither speculation . Lis ores nor intel li-
e whole expression ;
Pie ig (heMtence: “We could, in thie

wanting, too, in the erect and independeyt bearing
of a man... These are the traits which I can affirm
ss usa class, after having come in con-
tact with many hundreds of farm-laboarers. ro:

As a class they
have noamiisements beyond the indulgence of sense.
Iu nine cases out of ten recreation is aseociated in
their minds with nething higher than sensuality -. . .
He (the farm-labourer) is now a physical seandal, a
moral enigma, an intellectual cataleptic. Let it not
be said that this picture is too strongly drawn. THe

Did oy permit, ef could any good
y it, I could adduce instances
almost innumerable, of the profoand ignorance in

There is scarcely a field in the agricaltural districts
which does not exhibit a living illustration of it.
Search any county throughout the south and west,

those which I have tra-

in the vale of Aylesbury—by the Thames, the
Severn, the Frome, the Stour, the Exe, the Came!
Where all is bad, it is sometimes
(p. 579 & seq.)

Thisis truly a frightful picture of Protestant, Bibie-
distributing England, and is almost sufficient to make
any English gentleman attempt to trace bis descent

“ But,” continues Mr. Kay, ‘ what is the intelli-

Tuéy can, perhaps, read
and write..-.The greater partof even this partially
instructed moiety of the poor Lave few ideas, beyond
the most vulgar and erude notions of Cod and the
devil, of heaven and hell, of everlasting hapmness

the sacrafice of an enraged Deity....What is the
character of the education which the majority of
these poor children who go toschool receive ? Most
of them are instructed either by poor ignorant

A great part of the very best built and endowed
schools have no seats inside of them; no separate

1e poor children, al) of
them young—for few remain at school beyond the
age of ten—are obliged to stand in many of these
schools nearly the whole day (!)....lam quite con-
vineed that our dame schools, and those schools
which are unfurnished, where the classes are unse-
parated, where the teachers are uneducated, and
where the children are tortured by being made to
y,are very much
worse than no schools at all....Talk of education
not having yet done much for our poor!—why, we
have scarcely begun anything like education in

Mr. Kay says:—‘ In England it is well known
that not one hauif of the country is properly supplied
with good schools, and that many of those which do
exist are under the direction of very ineflicient and
sometimes of actually inMORAL TEACHERS.” (vol.2,

moral teachers’ of the dame schools of “ enlighten-
ed England” and the female schools of the benight-
ed Popish cantons of Switzerland. Our Protestant
author writes at page 111: “In the Romanist cantons
of Switzerland, the Sisters of Charity conduct the
education of the girls; and their schools are the best
and most pleasing female schools I save ever seen.”

Mr. Kay, after shewing that no person is allowed
to be a teacher in Germany unless he is a man of
learning and probity, asks :—“ Can we say the same

no doubt that many of our badly conducted schools
are thus doing more to retard the progress of religion

England to have no school at ail than to keep up

of his having a moment to devote to litera

ters. Whoever the thinks-himself-somebody writer

in the Monitor way be, inclination, and the want

of more pleasing employment at the present mo-

moment, am? - to administer a slight curry-
vor,

OR Peagt pinata.

Ita rs that “An idteie®
the ae wit " hae ,
that’ is to Tase tren ‘the ik

wished, place onr fingers
spell out the name of the “ \j
man who has made himself ao
not conterring too much

”

” Shakespeare
the affairs of all man, ore
leads te fortune. Too late have i
the tide has ebbed for me! In the
considered “ somebody,” imagination
tured to my mind the vast and plop
quences likely to result to an humble
_| from having his name honored with q place
columns of the Monitor—and I shal} n
the iast syllable of recorded time,” plore,
Fate which dooms me to be una
presiding genius of the Monitor,
ligence conveyed in the above ext
ter’s ability to set fype, T have
that if he were to employ bis time at
other honest business, he would be
‘| by the community generally than
'} while his labor is confined to the
reperting of all the political
scandal that may be ome For the
formance of this duty, the publie are
y, op principles of retrenchment
oo of £100. There ia another .
article under consideration, whieh
It is stated that “ An Irishman’s”
from an “empty head,” and was
“bad heart.” In reference to the
this accusation, I way state that it
sligit annoyance \ me to be called “
” by a mere literary sea
people will be inclined te laugh P
who makes ab arsertion of that kind
vancing some proof to sebstantiate
‘| particnlarly so wher they recollect that the.
is preferred against me by one who
extent of bis own richly-stored and highty
ted mind in appreciating and
the public a species of poetry which
gods nor common-sense men tolerate,”
the artiele in the Monitor aivords
dence of being the production of an

fop ;—and the literary position whieh '
recalls to mind the description given by
the condemned sirner, who was as

ishment for bis crimes, up te his chin om
a streain of dirty water continually
head. The “translated
iustance, but afforded another
consummate impudence—w! ich nota’ the

he has had, or ever will have, with Masten,
ean eradicate—in atoriing such a Wold -be ox,
temptuous air towards “An Tishman” IR

Cooper must also strangely forget his

when he becomes the medium of eivng obaae
to insinuations as to the want of ,

of heart in others. He should recall fae

thing of that sort suits his pages about as
ropriately as words of virleses eagle
1€ the lips of a courtesan, '

In another communication I have occasion
to notice the sneers and insults Trishmen iy.
dulged in by others than Mr. the
meantime, if scribbler or “ Seribo” lean,
to express himself iutelligibly, he shall peegive
the attention he deserves from .

AN IRISHMAN.
RESPECTABLE OR NOT RESPECT
THAT IS THE QUESTION,

Mr. WHELAN ;—Sin—Considerable excitement
has been recently created by the design of a phe.
tion of the City Council to have gas on the streets

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against it have been sent to the Council, whilethe
matter has been deferred for decision till next
week. In conversation with a Councillor on the
subject, he informs me that a had been
sent in for gas by the respect portion of te
C.ty ; while on the other band a very great many
had petitioned against the gas, whe were not rae
payers, (or, in other words, were the rabble) whow
request would net be noticed !

Lat why is this?) Why are they mot rat:
ers? For this simple reason—the law whie
was p for on “extra assessment,” 1s it was
styled, but virtually for the _ of payingin
gar, er no al hose whore rent ix
£10 upwards shall pay this extra assessment,
while port whose ae is ander that snim ar
exempt! This fact is not generally known bythe
rabbte ; but having paid the assessment uaen
were called upon for,and expecting if the gas was
brought out, they would be in for a share of th
extra assessment too, but which their cireamate.
ces would not warrant them in paying, they it;
rally enough petitioned against the gas, and whe
could blame them? Ne reasonable ver
iainly ; but as they are not among the respectable
their appeal is notto be heeded. Is it to pass laws
| that ake sach an invidious distinction among

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| they aequire no knowledge except the knowledge ot | of geography, history, science, music, or drawing. | OUT citizens that we are soft enough te two
Vice ; they never come in contact with their betters; | Their instruction in the village schools has hitherto | officers £175 per annum? One would think we
ion orthe | generally consisted of nothing more than a little }could discover whe were respectable and whe

were not without a law at such a cost. As faras

pay their assessment when it isdemanded of them,

read and write correctly, aud who know very little though they may wear threadbare coats ad
le, which they profess to explain to their “shocking bad ” hats, are far more re;

| than these who strut about in other La ay 9

| fine clothes, gold watch chains, scarf pias,
while they may be guilty ef owing the city twoor
) more veurs assessment,and perhaps a largeameut
| for wharfage, &c.; and I contend the petition of
| the former should have more weight with the City
| Council, in respect to City expenditure, than the
latter. However, there is one place in the City
| where the poorly dressed man who pays bis City
dues has, and will havea preference over the nel
ly clad city debtor, and they who livetosee August
next will find that place te be—the

It the respectable portion of the city are so ex
tremely anxious to kil the Gas Company's coffers,
let them be respectable enough to put hands
into thar own pockets and pay for #reet gas, i-
stead of being so mean as to ask the rabble to belp
them when the latter are net to be heard at the
City Council board.

Yours truly,
ONE OF THE RABBLE.

Charlottetewn, 4th April, 1862.

-- HOUSE OF COMMONS,
Monpay, Fen. 2.

“ APFAIR OF HONOUR.”’—BREACH OF PRIV-
LEGE.— SIR R. PEEL AND THE O'DONOGIVE

Lord PALMERSTON: Sir,I am desirons ofsaying
a few words to the House ona matter of very
great ven and importance, because it beam
on one of our most important privileges—] mean
the privilege omitinie te waht enstom, the
privilege of perfect freedom of debate io this
house—freedom of speech. Without perfeet free-
dom of speech on the part of members the proper
functions of this house could net be adequately or
usefully discharged (hear, hear.) Then, to eo
terbalance that latitude, we have rules and regi
lations of our own. We have rules and regulations
by which any member is liable to be by
the person whosits in your chair, sir—the

for the time being—it he says anything contrar:
to the usages of Parhameut, or at variance with
the rules and regulations which for pers
and decorum of this house have been

and practised, and which eught to be observed
(hear, hear.) In the course of Friday evening
last the Secretary fur Ireland used some expr
sions which later in the evening I was isfermd
were considered by the hen. membef

rary to be offensive to him, and personally

upon him. The hon. member took po neiee
— . the time. Nothing parsed at the meet
to lead any person to think that consequence
any sort Ay arise different from what I aatel.
Lut late at night, after the house had 4

it was intimated to me that the hon. meuaber fet
Tipperary had taken offence at some of the
pressions used by my right hon. friend, aad itw#
likely that results out of this house Sy one
therefrom. I thought it right before quitted
this house to write to my right hon. friend a letter
which I shall now read. This letter was

after the house had adjourned :—

“House of Commons, Feb, 21, 16%
“ My dear Peel,—It has been suggested tom
that The O'Donoghue may contemplate sending
you a hostile message in consequence of what be
considers your allusion to him in your apeeeh this
afternoon ; and I think it right. therefore, bevor®
I leave the house, to remind you that such 4 p&
ceeding by The O'Donoghue would be a breve
of the privileges of the house, and that if youwe®
to accept auch a challenge you would make
selfa party to that breach of privilege. Yat
duty, therefore, in such case would be to declise
the invitation, and I shouid in sueh ease dee
my duty to state the matter to the at
meeting on Monday, in order that the
deal with the matter in the manner
oy dealt with matters of the kind
ormer occasions. It seems to me, eerie | wt
of Pst

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your official position renders it the more

upon you to avoid infringing the privi

liament and making Samat’ party to wast

would be a public scandal (general cries of “hth
yh

“ Yours a

In the course of Saturday communications
place which led to a request—not that whic
enjoined my right hon. friend to decline if it we"
made—but a request to name a friend (langle
I requested my right hon. friend te mod ;

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(renewed laughter ). the hon, and
gentleman who dia been commissioned S
hon. member for Ti ry to commupieate ©
my right hon. friend this morning, aad explained
to him the bearings yah of the
ings upon the rales ivileges

(hear, hear). I stated 1 rrould feel it my aut)
half-past tour o'clock this day to

under the not in
sir, and the house

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at the expense of the City, and petitions for and _

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